Meet the people suing Ozempic for wrecking their bodies

Fuck these idiots.

Play stupid games, win stupid prizes.

They knew the fucking risks with this unproven and untested drug.

And yet they took it any way. For vanity.

They wanted to sashay around and brag about their weight loss.

Oh well, fuckers.

Now you're going to pay.

I have ZERO sympathy for these Ozempic assholes.

Self-control altered my mind. That changed mindset helped me keep off 100 pounds in 15 years. I didn’t use drugs and I often eat a bit more restrictive than most of the group. You have to, or you end up fat like them.

Will they sue Oprah too?

I was gonna get on it earlier this year, but decided not to, thankfully.

Nobody is naturally obese. Agree with R1 and R2. They refused to deal with self control because it was “too hard” so they took the easy fix to be able to brag. Oh, well. Shit happens.

And once again, the age old lesson comes back around:

THERE IS NO EASY FIX.

You have to put in the work to get the results, you lazy fucks.

If they were having severe side-effects, they could have always, you know, STOPPED TAKING IT.

Some people are really just too stupid to manage life.

They certainly did warn about gallbladder issues, along with many other serious, if rare, side effects. The link is to the FRONT page of their website: just scroll down to see the full list.

I needed to have my gallbladder out for a chronic issue, and my doctor wouldn't let me take Ozempic until I did. He said while pancreatitis from gallbladder events is a relatively rare side effect, it is serious enough that he thought it would be irresponsible to let me take the drug on top of a known issue.

Another question for the courts will be how bad their diabetes was, because that causes its own issues.

R6, you are one of the multitude with zero understanding of the medical issues but a deep need to make this a moral issue. Stupid as MAGAts screaming about abortion.

Possies, Nothing tastes as good as thin feels.

Muscle feels better

R5 Shit stops happening actually, that’s part of the problem.

I was prescribed Trulicty two years ago for my Type 2 diabetes, but I had to stop because it wrecked my digestive system. I was grinding away my teeth trying to prevent myself from vommitting 2-3 hours every morning, eventually I ended up in the hospital with Gastroparesis and Pancreatitis.

Ultimately, you have to change your diet, permanently, no matter what else you do to try to lose weight.

How do I get in on that class action suit?

Such wisdom, such humanity on this thread.

How long were you taking this and puking everyday R11?

Whatever R12. It's one thing to be a lazy fuck and take these meds, but to fucking sue then, like you didn't know there was no magic pill and that this came with risks? Miss me with that shit.

Look at the DLers, all full of righteous indignation as usual. Face it, for all the "horror stories" you hear about these drugs there are millions more who have lost weight on them and feel fine. Get over yourself. There's no virtue in doing things the old fashioned way, when you can use assistance and lose weight without struggling and depriving yourself.

[quote]And once again, the age old lesson comes back around:

[quote]THERE IS NO EASY FIX.

Mmm-hmm! Diet and exercise are the only way!

I’m sure it was in the fine print. Always read the white paper included with your medication, people!

R14, what these people are describing is the struggle. Talk to anyone who uses these drugs - the reason you lose weight is because you feel nauseous if you eat anything. My diabetic friend can only eat like lettuce and some bites of a plain chicken breast. Anything else, they just barf up.

So glad you think this is the painless future of weight loss.

Never take a medicine you don't absolutely need or because of a lack of discipline. The drug companies are in it for the profit and thats all.

Thank God that the Daily Mail is on top of this!

For those people I know who are on it - they are constantly fighting fatigue and nausea.

My best friend tried twice and, thankfully, stopped taking it after a couple of weeks.

I don't understand how these people can have these issues for extended periods AND KEEPING TAKING IT.

R13 I took .75ml of Trulicity for 4-5 months 3-4 years ago, but stopped because I reached my weight less goal.

A year later, I started .75ml and then 1.5ml and got sick within a year. I’ve been attempting to recover from it and its side effects for the past half year.

I want money because they ruint one of my favorite songs of the 1970s!!!!

I don't know what you people are talking about. I've been on it for five weeks now and I feel fine. Yes, if you overdo it, you'll feel sick. But other than that, I haven't had any side effects. And I'm grateful to not feel hungry all the time. I know I'm not the only one with this experience.

Bring back fat shaming. Instead we watch videos of these fat monsters eating platters of fattening food like pigs at a trough.

R23 It felt great to not be hungry and effortlessly lose weight the first time I took Trulicity.

The second time I took it, it was intolerable and I fought it out and stuck to it for too long, because it had been great the first time.

R24 We should be more like the French

after I had my lipo 360 the surgeon told me to get six months of ozempic but I taled to another physician and he recommended me to take sermorelin, tesamorelin or ipamorelin instead to keep my results. he said yhat people lose weight with these peptides and that hhey do not have the side effects of ozempic, plus ghey also increase lean muscle mass

How fat are your fingers, r27?

are those prescription only? good luck fat cunt!

[quote] I didn’t use drugs and I often eat a bit more restrictive than most of the group. You have to, or you end up fat like them.

R2, Who's in "the group"?

[quote][R2], Who's in "the group"?

Candice Bergen as Elinor "Lakey" Eastlake

Joan Hackett as Dottie Renfrew Latham

Elizabeth Hartman as Priss Hartshorn Crockett

Shirley Knight as Polly Andrews Ridgeley

Joanna Pettet as Kay Strong Peterson

Mary-Robin Redd as Mary "Pokey" Prothero Beauchamp

Jessica Walter as Libby MacAusland

Kathleen Widdoes as Helena Davison

R30 Pretty much any group of average Americans that aren’t in some fitness cult.

What r6 said.

I can’t, it’s too much work!

R23 Then you should be pissed at these people. Because of them and their fucking lack of readking skills, this shit will now be even more expensive and harder to get. These fat fucks ruined it for everyone.

[quote] [R30] Pretty much any group of average Americans that aren’t in some fitness cult.

Huh? So, you're either in a "fitness cult" or you're fat? Sorry, not following the logic. Are you in a fitness cult? (Since you're no longer fat.)

Why didn’t they immediately stop taking it when they felt so shitty?

Why are the French not fat and eat up with diabetes, I hear fat free is not a thing in France.

R36 most of the year, I would say so. I don’t use the gym but I run upwards for 40 miles a week in the summer.

yeah, a friend of mine was like this, felt like throwing up all the time...she would rather feel like this than exercise. she's a fat cunt from poland.

Caveat emptor.

All the jealous fatties here trying to find some dirt on Ozempic. Americans love suing. Everything comes with risk. Aspirin comes with risk. Ambulance chasing lawyers need lawsuits to survive.

[quote] he said yhat people lose weight with these peptides and that hhey do not have the side effects of ozempic, plus ghey also increase lean muscle mass

Does anyone here speak Welsh?

Ozempic will be the new Phen Phen.

Here's the thing - you have to be on this FOR LIFE. Studies have shown that people gain all the weight back within a year of going off of it. Your appetite comes back.

So now you're stuck with shooting yourself up every day forever?

You're NOT supposed to be on this medication unless you have diabetes or other issues.

For me, taking a medication my body doesn't need is a no go - same thing goes for PREP. Now I've really hit the hornet's nest as all the PREP people will attack me.

R13 is so wise, so humane, so "whatever."

[quote]Miss me with that shit.

And this isn't Swaziland.

A drug available through medical professionals always has the same strictures for use and safety.

And it is up to the courts' judgment to determine the merits of the plaintiff's cases.

Not yours, especially with such fervor and misplaced outrage, indicative of weight issues, one suspects.

It doesn’t continue to work long term or change your body chemistry? So you have to take it forever?

Sounds awful.

I’d like to lose about 30lbs, but I’m not willing to risk it for something like this. I’ll just walk more miles and be fat.

I get the feeling they were prescribed the wrong dose. I am on moujaro and my doctor started at a low dose, ramping up as I could handle my symptoms. I have had some stomach discomfort, I got sick twice and some diarrhoea, But that was at the beginning and my gastro problems went away. if you don't change your diet (stay away from greasy heavy foods etc) and eat late or over eat, you will get sick and have stomach issues. My guess is a combo of both. Too much of the medicine too soon, and no behavior/eating habit changes. You don't just go on GLP-1 and then continue to eat shit, it will wreck you.

Here’s what I don’t understand: unless you are constantly shoving food in your mouth, when the hell do people feel hungry?

Feeling hungry implies not eating for 4 or 5 hours. Then you should feel hungry and then eat something.

When you stop taking this shit, “your appetite comes back”, WTF?

It is supposed to go away when you eat something. Do these people have such little (or no) self control??

Come the fuck on, no wonder you’re overweight.

I’ve lost about 30 pounds when they diagnosed me with that fucking disease. I simply stopped eating shit I wasn’t supposed to. I wasn’t much about eating a lot of sugary stuff anyway, so I quite cold turkey on eating past and rice and potatoes, to some extent.

I do walk about 3 or 4 miles a day for exercise. I went down about 4 or 5 pant sizes and people tell me I look great. THAT is enough to keep myself motivated to eat a lot less and eat healthier and keep exercising.

My doc initially wanted to give me mounjaro but I keep telling him no, based on the fucking horror stories I keep reading about.

I gave up bread and pasta and achieved the same results as Ozempic. The yearly cost, minus $1550.

I keep getting this commercial for Xtandi on YouTube. The first time I suffered through it I thought it was a parody. the list of side effects is RIDICULOUS.

Note the demographics involved, they live to file a suit for any reason

No, diet and exercise are not better than drugs for obesity.

There’s no debate. There has never been a reproducible diet or exercise intervention that has led to anywhere near the average weight loss of patients taking obesity medicines.

Fat middle age white women, when I worked for a casino, we were taught the people with the biggest gambling problems were fat middle age white women, and it was true, then I noticed the people with fibro, fucking gluten intolerance etc were also fat middle age white women, why is this?

[quote]You're NOT supposed to be on this medication unless you have diabetes or other issues.

Morbid obesity counts as "other issues."

Here’s the truth — the American food supply is MF *poison* and is making people get: fat, heart disease, immune-issues, cancer, diabetes. We are poisoning our population and making them insulin-resistant. And just like Luigi said, these fuckers are *profiting* off this while our government looks the other way!!!! The government is supposed to have the public’s back!!! The Food CEO’s better watch out for more Luigi’s — and I do not support or condone political violence. I’m only saying, once people wake up to what they’re doing to us with cancer and food, someone who isn’t stable is going to target their CEO’s too. Wouldn’t it be better to just admit that we have a problem that needs to change? And then actually fix it?

The only effective answer for Americans is a diet called “metabolic balance”. You get your blood work sent to Germany because our labs don’t even show you what Europe will in their labs. Then, you do a 2-day cleanse, and you have a strict food list of what is customized for your body to be healthy and *naturally* thin again. Yes — it requires elimination of ALL processed foods, and ALL sources of sugar. It takes 3 months. My husband has been on it for 35 days and he has lost 33 pounds, 6 inches off his waist. He looks incredible. The only “meds” you take are liquid vitamin D, and an herbal supplement that makes sure you poop every single day. He’s getting his blood work on the 27th, we are excited to see if his cholesterol and blood pressure improve, plus his sugar levels were pre-diabetic. Also! He sleeps with a CPAP, and he’s already almost stopped snoring. It’s like a miracle, and without any drugs or even exercise (my husband is fit, but during this diet he’s been too busy to do his normal workouts, so ALL his weight loss is 100% diet).

So metabolic balance is my new religion, I am starting it in January too. But I’ll never ever judge those who use these drugs because our government *continues* to let corporations profit off of our pain and misery and death. The food industry keeps us addicted to sugar and processed foods, and the drug industry makes sure that all the drugs that “help” us get you hooked for life. And we accept this and tolerate it. I’ll never understand why. So don’t judge people who are desperate to be healthy, and have permanent suffering for the rest of their lives. Ever made one bad judgement in your life? Ever take a drug you shouldn’t have? Or drank when you shouldn’t have? Then please don’t judge these people whose entire lives are destroyed by fucking greed. The drug CEO’s make me fucking sick.

[quote]we were taught the people with the biggest gambling problems were fat middle age white women, and it was true, then I noticed the people with fibro, fucking gluten intolerance etc were also fat middle age white women, why is this?

Because "fibro" and "gluten intolerance" are mental disorders, just like gambling addiction.

R1 Neither did the bedsheets in my guest room.

I read of an Australian woman in her 50s who died of complications of the medication. It turns out that she was abusing two different versions of the medication at the same time.

You don't gain hundreds of pounds because you are capable of moderation and restraint.

Fat. Grifters.

Greedy for the immediate weight loss just as you were once greedy for food.

R54 - really you need to source your stuff better - that's according to ONE doctor, and he's supplying these drugs. He's an owner of a for-profit bariatric non-surgical weight loss clinic. He said that for clicks and business, dumbass.

For me, there is one main cause for the obesity epidemic - and that is people not understanding nutrition, portion sizes, calorie counts of common foods and ingredients.

Many people are addicted to high-salt, high-fat foods - and I mean that. Your body becomes used to it and craves it.

Fat people need to go on a 30 day food detox - but they rarely make it through the first week or two. And that's because the sugary, salty, fatty foods are so addictive and have changed their brains.

I've heard so many fat people complain - but there's no FLAVOR - when what they're really saying is that there isn't enough fat because they're so used to it and their bodies crave it.

I was on Ozempic for diabetes. At first, I had no problems then it made me very sick and nauseous. After I got off of it I realized how badly I was feeling all along.

Yes, the processed food and snacks are really bad for you. They contain chemicals of all kinds that changes your brain and you become addicted to the shit. There's a reason why you can't just stop eating a couple of Doritos chips...

R62, did you gain back the weight?

My friend got off it and gained 10 pounds right away

I love how the same DLers chastising the obese are saddened about Ariana Grande's body condition. 🙄

R63 - there was a British TV show with this Scottish American woman about 10 or 15 years ago called You Are What You Eat.

She pushes people toward healthier foods - but one of the first things she does is they track what one person eats in a week and then put it all out on a table before them to look at it. It's REALLY eye-opening.

Here's one episode - go to around 4:00 min mark. That's where they lay out her week's food.

R60, the real "grifters" are the pharmaceutical companies

R1, these people were prescribed the drug by their doctors, they aren't Hollywood starlets taking it for "vanity"

Here's another one - go to the 1:50 mark.

I think a LOT of people would benefit from doing this.

People underestimate the crap they put into their bodies - that's the #1 reason for obesity. Seriously - you're focused just on the one meal but you're not looking at the big picture of your weekly or monthly consumption.

And these vids just show one week - imagine putting so much of that stuff into your body for YEARS at a time?

That's why we have the obesity epidemic. You see it in the grocery stores - have you seen some people's grocery carts? It's fucking disgusting.

It also makes you depressed, throws your hormones off, gives you low energy, etc.

Diet and nutrition alone can cure SO many things - but people are stupid or lazy - and yes, I mean that.

I wonder if the Jardiance chanteuse went on it.

I believe that these drugs should only be used when a person is so overweight, it's lose weight or die.

It should never have been used for cosmetic weight loss.

Unfortunately I do think some of it has to do with genes. My best friend has never drank pop (he doesn't like carbonation), no alcohol and never smoked. Now he has diabetes. Meanwhile I ate a lot of crap, drank booze and plenty of pop, and I am relatively healthy.

r74 I also used to smoke. His father was a college coach so he grew up eating pretty healthy and was into exercise. Now the poor guy has diabetes and has to use a C-Pap machine.

R57, I think most people in the US don’t know HIW to eat healthy

If your parents fed you junk or fast food, that’s all you know. Schools don’t teach nutrition or cooking skills, if their parents don’t teach them, and if they have no drive to learn it in their own, they have no idea what to eat or cook good food.

I can’t completely blame them when they don’t know better.

Jesus. Doesn't anyone use Slim Fast and Dexatrim anymore?

WHET to Dexatrim? That was an OTC lifesaver.

R7 You'd suspect wrong, dickhead. I have never had a weight issue. And again, people need to fucking read the fine print or even use some critical thinking skills. If it seems too good to be true, it is.

Shit, I meant R47.

R50 They also eat till they "feel full" The big complaint is they never feel full. Well who the fuck wants to feel full? That's a gross feeling. How about you look at the amounts of food you're eating and have confidence that it's enough. I don't think I've felt full in years, it's not something I strive for. I see what I'm eating is adequate and that's good enough.

R54 And yet, the weight comes right fucking back when you stop these dangerous drugs, so I don't believe that they're better at making people skinnier.

[quote]r5 Nobody is naturally obese.

I’m [italic]big boned!

R57 share more details about the laxative your hubby takes and what he eats on a daily basis. Can you recommend a website for the Dr/lab you guys are using?

R64 I lost after because I felt better and went back to the gym.

Dana "Fillmore". Born to be a a fatass

[quote]The government is supposed to have the public’s back!!!

Boy, is R57 in for a rude awakening!

R1

Dana Filmore, a 55-year-old diabetic, was uncomfortable with the prospect of having to stick herself with a needle every week when her doctor suggested she try Ozempic to manage her type 2 diabetes.

I’m grateful for Mounjaro. It saved my life 120 lbs later.

R87 And yet, you can manage diabetes with diet, as I know people who have, and ozempic is injectable too so...sounds like bullshit to me.

She did you get your degree in nutition and metabolics , r89? Did you Giggle while on the toilet?

R90 Nope, why would I giggle about this? You CAN manage diabetes through diet, and ozempic is fucking injectable, so what's your point? You don't need a degree in nutrition to know about how not to eat shitty foods. Clearly you're a great big fat person though, since you're so offended by the mere suggestion that eating less shitty food is just as effective as taking this horrid drug.

R77 I have Ayds, if you ‘d like some.

I’ve known two people diagnosed with Diabetes around 2021. There were Tod to change their diet or die. Both changed their diets. Both are thin and thriving without Ozempic. I do understand that glucose drugs are necessary for people with diabetes. I just don’t think they are necessary or essential for weight loss. Anyone can manage their weight loss through diet alone—they just don’t want to.

People on diabetes cannot manage to eat away the disease. No doubt they were also told to take medication, either orally or by injection. Millions of diabetics take insulin by injection FOR THE REST OF THIER LIVES. How is that different from using Ozempic?

Anyone using Ozempic for cosmetic purposes is limiting its use by those with diabetes who need it.

Anyone using Ozempic bought through a compounding pharmacy is risking their own life.

Sadly enough there is gonna be all these people walking around with all these long faces, and flat asses and big dicks and huge tits and not remember what to do with them.

I’m so pleased that I opted out of trying this.

I just found a new gym I’m joining. I always get positive results when I stick to a gym schedule regularly.

It’s going to be a tad more difficult because I’m older, but it’s worth putting my all into it, rather than being stuck in a cycle of permanent diarrhea.

My elderly 80 y.o. neighbor, Rose the Cat Lady (I call her), has just been diagnosed as diabetic. She was a nurse, she eats well, and is reasonably thin.

But she doesn't get around too well any more, and every time she walks, I'm waiting for her to fall, although she hasn't yet. I have no idea how she finds the energy to take care of that army of rescue cats she has in her "cattery," but she's out there every day, once in the morning and then in the evening, cleaning, feeding, even bottle feeding if necessary.

Her doctor just put her on Ozempic, at what she says is a low dose. I'm worried because, like a lot of old folks, she can't afford to lose any weight.

I wish he'd given her something else.

So why did the doctor prescribe her Ozempic, R97?

How does that make any sense, based on your description of her?

R93 - Yes - Type 2 diabetes can be reversed through diet and weight loss, but Type 1 cannot.

As far as the post above about their healthy friend contracting diabetes - it's very common to contract diabetes in your older years. It's just a symptom of aging. Women can also contract diabetes during pregnancy.

My mom has late onset diabetes - she's 5'4" and never weighed over 110lbs. Always ate good fruits and vegetables and lean meats. Occasionally she'd have 2 cookies.

The point is - we can't confuse all 3 types of diabetes together.

Weight Watchers, long respected and recommended by the AHA, is now offering their own 'miracle drug' to members. I believe they did a slow roll out in some areas last month, and plan on going full force across the country by March, 2025.

I was on WW back in 2006 at the age of 42 when my doctor recommended I lose around 30 pounds. Back then we had 'pocket journals' and a 'slide rule cardboard point monitor' to track what we ate. After the first week or so, I adapted quickly and lost 46 pounds within six months. Aside from 'counting my daily points', I took up walking (3 miles a day, and included steep hills in the neighborhood) and yoga. I was in the best shape of my life, and felt great. Within weeks, it made sense to me - and I didn't need my calorie counter any more. Food choices came naturally (and the weekly meetings certainly were encouraging).

This was way before 'phone tracking', and all the other tech tools they have introduced over the years (and so many people I know, like me, have joined and dropped out because it's confusing and not as easy as it was in 2006). I also joined in the recent past when they did the 'food colors' - I was a 'purple', IIRC. Talk about really confusing! These 'new plans' were all the brainchild of Oprah when she took over ten years ago, and ruined it (no wonder she was booted earlier this year). The feedback on social media the past ten years suggested more people were leaving WW than joining (so many locations closed down) - and then the pandemic didn't help.

Now they're introducing their own 'injectable miracle drug' to attract more members ? Geez.

R100 - I think the journaling aspect of WW is one of the most effective tools for people trying to lose weight - if people do it properly and not 'forget' or purposefully not put down certain snacks.

That makes you so much more aware of what you're eating and how many 'points' or whatever system score of the stuff you put into your body.

But WW change their programs every couple of years in order to force people to buy new products - I don't think Oprah has anything to do with it. They're constantly updating and changing their program which means they're either not very confident with their program after all of these years, or they need to keep pivoting so they can sell more of their books and charts or apps.

R100 - did the journaling change how you view food and what you put into your body? I went on it over 20 years ago to lose about 15 pounds and I can honestly say it forever changed my perspective - which is great.

R101 What I really learned the most from WW was 'portion control'. I remember we had one instructor (who I loved and always searched her out for meetings) who taught everyone : "When you go to a restaurant and order a dinner, look down at your plate before you start eating, and visualize a 'line' which splits your plate in half. Then eat from only one side of the plate, and take the rest home. That's the easiest way to portion control. "

At this time, I owned my own business (retail store). By the holiday season, I had notably lost weight. This same instructor told those of us who had a successful weight loss the past six months it was important to acknowledge compliments that holiday season when we were going to see friends and family for the first time since last Christmas (and for me, seeing customers who would only visit during the holiday season). She said - and this stuck with me - when people say 'Wow ! You lost so much weight!' it's important to tell them it was intentional weight loss, otherwise they will think it's due to illness. Sure enough, I had so many customers compliment me on my weight loss, followed by the inappropriate, intrusive question "Have you been ill ?" I smiled and said, "No it was an intentional weight loss - I've been on Weight Watchers since the summer." Then they would congratulate me.

It’s amazing to me that we allow these companies to sell these drugs with horrible side effects. Then when people are harmed by them, we are all like “HAW HAW serves them right.”

R103 I'm confused - how do 'we' allow it ?

We're the consumer. We have no say / power in allowing them to sell their drugs - that's up to the government agencies who watch over this.

If the side effects they're sueing over were listed as potential ones on the drug handouts given to them at the pharmacy, every time they voluntarily filled their scripts, then they shouldn't be able to bring suit.

Read the literature on the medication you are injecting into your body, morons. You are given it for a reason.

R105 That's a big IF. And any lawyer worth his degree will take advantage of that IF and tear the companies apart. I say this gets settled out of court.

R102 - thanks for sharing. Well, it sounds like portion control and seeing how many 'points' things are has a double-effect - the other one is realizing just how large the portions tend to be.

I still contend that people are just not conscious of how much shit they put into their body and how much of it. They're in total denial. Then they accuse thin people of starving themselves and not really 'living life'.

There is a small point to that in the sense that food is so widely available at all times now and eating out is so common, that people who want to watch their weight actively have to monitor what they eat and NOT give in to the constant temptations thrown at them all the time.

But that doesn't mean they aren't living life - it's just they know how all of these little 'treats' and food add up in calories and it's not worth it. You DO have to be vigilant and conscious of your food and portions in America.

[quote]Anyone using Ozempic for cosmetic purposes is limiting its use by those with diabetes who need it.

Or Novo-Nordisk could increase production of Ozempic to match the market demand... and risk lowering their profits. And, well, of course we couldn't expect them to do that.

[quote]It’s amazing to me that we allow these companies to sell these drugs with horrible side effects.

Millions of people have been taking these drugs for years with minimal to no side effects. Some people will experience severe side effects, and those people should stop taking these drugs.

R109 - but these are lifetime injections for a drug that they're not supposed to be taking.

Taking any drug for years can do damage to your body - least of all for one you don't actually need. Then you go off of it and...the weight comes back. It has to because not eating is going to change your metabolism for the worse.

There aren't enough long term studies on what this does to your body for those people taking this who aren't diabetic.

It's fine for a few months to jumpstart a large weight loss, but you have to really do the lifestyle changes and people just don't want to do that. They'd rather take a pill or inject something to fuck up their ability to eat.

We've seen this time and time again - this stuff works in the short term but not in the long term. Unless of course you're willing to inject yourself every damn day for the rest of your life - to what risks for these people? We don't know yet. But it can't be nothing.

What we do know is long term usage of semaglutide results can result in pancreatis, gallbladder disease, diabetic retinopathy, kidney injury and an increase risk in thyroid cancer. NOTHING TO WORRY ABOUT!!

R110, go look up what diabetes due to morbid obesity does to a person's body. The side effects are far, far worse than what you listed as potential side effects of weight loss injectables. So yes, for some, injections of these types of medications would have less risks than staying morbidly obese and not using the medication.

I personally think that those taking these types of meds should have to go through nutritional and mental health counseling concurrently with starting the injections (at least via telehealth) so that the root of their urges to overeat and/or misunderstanding of nutrition might be addressed. But that would take a lot more time & effort from the patient and money from the insurance companies, so I know it won't happen.

R111 - both are true. I was referring to the poster talking about minimal side effects - for now. The point is that it's a lifetime usage and it does not address the person's actions that got them there. Once they go off, they're back to their old ways.

I still contend fat people are just willfully ignorant and become self-righteous and deceptive when confronted about what they REALLY eat. They're not honest with themselves. And they get super defensive about it because they know, deep down, that everyone else is right and they're wrong.

I will grant them some grace that they are physically addicted to high-sugar, high-fat, high-salt foods. That's real. But you can ween yourself off of that - but no. They make it sound like they cannot LIVE or enjoy life without this crap they're eating. Just like any other addict.

Understood. Thank you for explaining R112. That makes sense!

Maybe I'm naive, but I cannot believe that, in this day and age, ANY drug could be marketed without full notification of the possible side effects. Look at all those endless disclaimers at the ends of TV commercials for various drugs. It's almost laughable how thorough they have to be in listing EVERY POSSIBLE side effect that anyone might ever have from taking the drug, no matter how small the chance.

Personally, I think the drug companies shouldn't have to include those endless disclaimers at the ends of commercials, and instead it should be the responsibility of any doctor prescribing a drug to detail them to the patient. But as things are now, the disclaimers have to be there, so I can't understand how anyone could not have known what might be the side effects of Ozempic.

I've lost 60 lbs. since July just by dieting and exercise. Got my A1C from 7.4 down to 5.6. Things like Ozempic and bariatric surgery are not worth the risks.

Speaking of bariatric surgery, does anyone know a person who has had it and has actually kept the weight off for more than five years ? I don't.

I personally know two people who had it in the early 2000s - one is a very good friend of mine, the other is a neighbor a few houses down. My severely obese friend had to pay out of pocket since it was considered elective surgery, and ended up dipping into her retirement (she was in her fifties at the time) . She slimmed down in the beginning yet was still 'heavy', then gained all her weight back - and then some - within two years. My overweight neighbor (not obese) had it done as well, a few years later, and kept the weight off for a while (about five years) looking slimmer, but she has since gained it all back. (Another friend of mine said her obese cousin also had it done in the early 2000s, and gained everything back). And back then Rosie O'Donnell had it done, but she also gained it back and now does Ozempic (or one of those meds).

I never hear anyone talk about this as an option any longer.

R116 - same with a friend of mine - gained it all back. Had a couple of good years though.

Just like Ozempic - once you're off of it, old bad behaviors are still there and they gain the weight back.

I'm so grateful at the commentary on this thread from doctors, nutritionists, and pharmacists.

Every single time something negative about this drug comes out the shills are always out proclaiming how they're the happiest they've ever been and don't have hunger cravings and can power through their chores and work. Speed addicts say the same shit it doesn't change the facts that this wagon isn't meant for everyone to get on.

[quote]Just like Ozempic - once you're off of it, old bad behaviors are still there and they gain the weight back.

But you can't "get off" of bariatric surgery, which among other things involves physical reduction of the stomach size. I'm confused, because my understanding of what that entails means that the person who has it would literally not be able to become obese again. Can someone please explain this to me?

I know about ten women who have had bariatric surgery. Half kept it off, half didn’t. Three were doing well keeping it off, then they started having babies and it came back over time.

There's one sure way to lose weight. EAT LESS. It's free!

R120 The person I know who had it and got fat again ate all the wrong things. She never ate protein so lost hair, and she ate shit like pasta. She basically stretched her stomach back out.

I have been a T1 diabetic since age 21 and frankly wish I had T2—at least I'd have a chance at reversing it, which is usually doable through diet and even light exercise. T2 diabetics actually produce a surplus of insulin, but their bodies don't utilize it efficiently. T1 is the result of an autoimmune attack on the pancreas, which results in it not being able to produce insulin at all. Having to take insulin is fucking annoying and sometimes scary, but I've managed over the years. I still struggle with keeping my blood sugar consistent though. It really is a difficult balancing act and you can get burnt out over it.

I know a woman at my office whose husband is morbidly obese and a T2 diabetic who has been on Ozempic for about a year now. Miraculously, he has not lost weight, and has actually gained. His doctor is shocked by this, as it's almost unheard of, although his glucose levels are actually not that horrible. The reality I think is that he must be out-eating the Ozmepic, which is astounding. She has told me he constantly eats cakes, cookies, candy—any sweets he can get his hands on, all day long. He is 100% a food addict and is in denial about it. She vacillates between excoriating him and making excuses for his addiction.

Yeah R124 I see so many fraus and fat millenials posting about how they are genetically unable to lose weight, blah blah blah. And yet, those women who went to Starvation Heights all were somehow able to lose weight, despite their genes and their nationality. So were the Andes plane crash survivors. So please, don't fucking tell me that cutting calories isn't the answer to weight loss.

I stopped watching Survivor years ago but I don’t recall a single contestant staying the same weight or gaining weight when they were cut off from their normal diet/food intake. People don’t want to eat less because it isn’t easy or fun. Weight loss is slow. You have to have an iron will. People just won’t do it,

someone I know had bariatric surgery.She used to weigh like 300 or 350 pounds. She kept it off. She was still chubby but not obese anymore. she still ate a lot of ice cream and junk food but organic snacks. I know she exercises.

Another friend of mine also got it. she kept if off and every year, she posts her progress on fb-how many years it's been, all the before and after pictures. She eats soo much ice cream as well. I don't know how they keep the weight off with the crap they eat.

I have a morbid fear of vomiting. There is no way in hell I’d willingly use such a drug. I have to lose about 10 pounds at the moment, but I’m going to put in the work.

R126, some people can't do it. Their brains just aren't wired the same way. One thing people on Ozempic always say is "Oh my God, I stopped obsessing about food". They call this "food noise". Most fat people think about food like a drug addict thinks of drugs and their minds trick them into being hungry all the time. People with normal brains think they have some kind of super power and are superior in some way. Ozempic pisses them and they delight in stories like this lawsuit. It's telling. And a little sad to me.

This is a lesson, there are no short cuts in life, you have to work hard to get results!

Really?

Maybe they need to eat sensibly and exercise?

It's too bad they can't get AYDS anymore.

R129 sorry I don’t buy it. The reason is because I also obsess about food every waking moment but I don’t give in because I refuse to weigh 200 pounds or more. I am constantly thinking about food, planning mentally, looking at recipes, etc. The noise is there, but I suppress the urge to give in.

Congratulations r134?

R129 - the obsessive part is also partly due to unhealthy gut biomes from all the shit they're eating and not being able to process the food - even leaky gut syndrome.

And the other part of the obsession is just addiction - to fat, salt and sugar.

It's all about what you put into your body. We never had so many people with this 'obsessive thoughts' of food before - or in other parts of the world. It's 100% related to diet.

But instead people want to call it a disorder. Unhealthy food and large quantities are dangerous - it changes your body and brain - but NOT PERMANENTLY. It can be reversed if you cut out all the shit.

But like heroin addicts, the withdrawals are too severe.

If you need the drugs for diabetes, it means you're fat, obese, but some will get diabetes if they don't loose the weight, so just put them on it. Someone always sues anyway, I'm sure, for something about any drug, it's the price of business.

R19, You'd be surprised then at what our media do not cover.

R129 No, they can do it, as we've pointed out, starvation heights, Survivor, etc. Everyone CAN do it, some people won't do it. Can't denotes that it is physically impossible, it's not. They just won't do it.

R124, I understand it can be frustrating having to inject insulin every day but PLEASE do not give up.

Someone loves you very much and would be heartbroken if you died from lack of insulin. People you don’t really know would also be upset, frightened and sad if you were to pass from not taking your insulin, so please take it as prescribed.

I had a very young coworker die because he missed taking his insulin. It was a shock to us and his parents were devastated. It was unintentional, but that didn’t make it hurt any less.

Why did they take so long to come out with this?

There's always going to be grifters looking to sue for anything out there. These drugs are super popular so this is the newest thing for them to try out and sue over. Next year, it will be something else.

I’d say what I truly feel but other Americans will get offended. I’ll leave it at this: Calories In > Calories Out will lead to weight gain.

[quote]I’d say what I truly feel but other Americans will get offended.

A reluctance to offend is truly one of the hallmarks of Datalounge.

R140 I never stop taking insulin, all I was saying was that I don't always manage my doses 100% and my blood sugar can be a rollercoaster at times. My glucose control has varied a lot over the years. But I do appreciate the kind words.

I told my psychiatrist I had started taking Ozempic, and he disapproved, suggesting diet and exercise. Like that had never occurred to me as a solution.

Well, I’m 67 years old, and my entire life has been spent gaining and losing weight. I’ve felt guilty when I’ve been heavy, and have struggled to keep it off when I was thinner. I’ve had many gym memberships over the years, and have hired an assortment of personal trainers. I’ve alternated between being proud of being thin and depressed about being overweight.

Fuck all this, I’m trying Ozempic.

Good for you R146, you're being honest about it. But you're 67, and if you lose a lot of weight, you will look older, your skin won't bounce back like when you were a kid, so be mindful of that. Also, remember the weight will come right back when you stop taking it. Maybe try adderall first?

[quote]But instead people want to call it a disorder.

Well, if we're all being forced to accept that gender dysphoria is a disorder and not attention-seeking behavior, and the treatment is having one's tits chopped off... then people can also accept that food addiction is a disorder and the treatment is Ozempic. End of story,

R158, if I understand correctly, the problem is that gender dysphoria is NOT considered a "disorder" by many people but, rather, a valid emotion based on the belief that a person can actually be trapped in a body of the opposite sex.

Am I wrong in my understanding?

R148 - well, I admit that people are addicted to food, specifically certain types of food. There's plenty of medical research on that. However, my point is that the idea of people having this voice to eat more is a recent phenomenon and not something found all over the world.

The reason they have this voice is because of the imbalances due to their diet and because of the addictions to the high-fat, high-salt, high-sugar foods.

It is NOT a permanent disorder, but it is a temporary one. That was my whole point. But no - people want to say that they're different, that they were born with this urge to eat or whatever horseshit.

People want to eat whatever they want because "I ENJOY it" or "What's the point of living if you cant have X" - etc. The thing is - they CAN have it - if they had a healthy gut biome and a regular diet.

The French don't deny themselves - but they eat healthy food and smaller portions. It really is that simple - but there's a lot of money to be made in pushing shitty food and the various 'cures' for it.

You have to get to the root of the problem - and none of this stuff does.

I'm a bear that would rather be a husky otter, so do I want to change my species or just take a bunch of drugs that will get me the visual result?

That I can sue for if they don't work.

My boyfriend is on the HIMS version. He wasn’t THAT overweight but managed to talk his doctor into prescribing it because of some of his levels and has been told he’s pre-diabetic . I’m not very happy that he’s on it because I worry about the side effects, but so far he hasn’t had any and had lost weight. He’s also been drinking way less alcohol-says he just doesn’t really want it.

R146 what were his reasons for disapproving?

R153 There's been a lot of talk (but not as much publicity like the weight-loss aspect) about many people no longer craving / drinking alcohol as much as they used to. I read a few months ago that this was going to be a study done on this as well - could it help alcoholics in the long run ? - but I haven't followed up on where that's going.

ZEPBOUND (another GL1 diabetes med) has been approved for not only losing weight, but also severe sleep apnea (which I have). So now people like me can be cured of sleep apnea and lose weight. On avg, 50 pounds of weight loss.

R155 according to my endocrinologist these meds may be the future of addiction medicine. Not just diabetes and weight loss.

R156 - but doesn't losing weight also get rid of sleep apnea? It's tied to being overweight. Sounds like they want credit for something that's a by-product.

"The FDA said studies have shown that by aiding weight loss, Zepbound helps reduce sleep apnea symptoms in some patients."

It's Eli Lilly's way of marketing their version of the drug - don't be so stupid.

I know of several people who have sleep apnea and I would not classify them as overweight.

R158 I hoped it would, I guess I'll never know...

if you have been prescribed one of these drugs, you need to modify your diet and then continue that food lifestyle when you stop taking them. This no different than being on WW or Noom or bariatric surgery or anything else. You have to modify your diet to lose and then maintain; most people don't do that.

I've been a WW member for years. Like many others, I yo-yo. Follow the plan to a T and lose. Eat what I want and gain. The drugs don't make you lose weight, you do.

When my doctor suggested Mounjaro, I asked about side effects like nausea. She said to be sure to eat a little something before taking my shot. I've never experienced any nausea, stomach discomfort, or constipation. Some people never drank water in their lives and are now required to drink at least 64 ozs. a day. Once your body gets used to healthy eating, gastrointestinal issues shouldn't be a problem.

WW doesn't have its own drug; they are using compounded versions but, at least, if you use their clinic, you have a medical professional who guides you and can gauge your progress.

R159 - but there's no drug proclaiming to cure sleep apnea - the drug the poster above said also cures sleep apnea is just touting the marketing line for a product that doesn't do that directly, but that sleep apnea is reduced because of the weight loss.

Show me the studies where this drug alleviates sleep apnea in people who aren't overweight. They can't.

It's like saying a weight-loss drug also reduces knee joint pain - well it's because there's less weight.

Quite simply, most Americans just eat way too much and what they eat is primarily processed garbage. We are also not genetically programmed to eat three times a day

R158 Here is one of the many reports out today about Zepbound. Notice they are saying 'to treat obstructive sleep apnea in adults with obesity' and not 'to treat obesity in adults with obstructive sleep apnea ' . Their emphasis is on sleep apnea.

As for losing weight getting rid of sleep apnea, I don't know the stats on that. Do you have any to share ? As someone else said, there are people of normal weight who suffers from sleep apnea.