It's sad when families grow apart and Christmas traditions fall by the wayside....

Their obscene unearned wealth will comfort them.

Wills rocks the beard! ✅️

Charles has pretty much lost control over the family.

When Elizabeth II was queen, EVERYONE attended her events out of respect.

Now? Not so much.

Charles should have ruled his family with a firmer hand.

Who cares about Wills & Kate - what I want to know is: is the maid that got drunk & got arrested after the company Christmas party be in attendance?

Seek help, OP.

William and Kate declared some time ago they would be attending the Sandringham celebrations, which are in fact the main Christmas ones for the family, including the church service which is the PR moment showing the Royals together at Christmas.

Kate has been so ill for so long, it's hardly surprising that they might like to spend Christmas Day in a place where their children can run about excitedly like normal children on Christmas, and not have to sit up straight and mind their manners.

[quote] Kate has been so ill for so long, it's hardly surprising that they might like to spend Christmas Day in a place where their children can run about excitedly like normal children on Christmas, and not have to sit up straight and mind their manners.

Has anyone asked how I'M doing?

Holy cow William is morphing into one of his 19th century forbearers in that beard.

So Wills won't be doing shit on his end? Things sound bad for the family. Charles doesn't seem very forceful as a King. His brother is awful, I agree, but now the Royal Family is being whittled down to the bare minimum. Sounds like they all hate each other.

[quote] So Wills won't be doing shit on his end? Things sound bad for the family

It speaks volumes that William would rather spend Christmas with the CHAV Middlington family, than with his father the KING and his step mother the Queen.

The Middlington Chavs remind me of the Boleyn family.

Low class social climbers trying desperately to make their daughter the future Queen of the United Kingdom.

Then they can profit from her position.

As if all the upper class social climbers wouldn't have liked their own daughters to marry William, R10. The Spencers certainly had no compunction in letting 19-year-old Diana marry the heir.

R10 You don't know much, do you?

The Middletons aren't chavs. The word doesn't mean what you think it does. The Boleyn family was one of the grandest in the land. They owned Hever Castle ffs.

Did anyone read the fucking article? This lunch was on 19 December. William and Kate will spend Christmas DAY at Sandringham with the King, as they always do

[quote] Wills rocks the beard!

Yes, the hypocritical pig. He chastised Harry for his beard, saying it didn't look "Royal".

[quote] The Spencers certainly had no compunction in letting 19-year-old Diana marry the heir.

The Spencers are an aristocratic British family.

The Middletons are NOT.

You trying to compare the Middletons to the Spencers, is laughable.

People who read PEOPLE are the thickest people in the world.

You really think Kate wants to sit across from Charles a few days before Christmas at a 'luncheon' and discuss what...their final days ? I think not.

Andrew is getting ready to leave the UK.

He's tired of the bullshit.

FYI.

At least Princess Michael of KUNT attended the lunch.

I wonder if she wore her Blackamoor Brooch?

R10 is beyond completely fucking stupid.

R3, pretty sure Charles doesn't want Andrew around in the first place.

R10, I condole you on whatever head injury left you like that.

Lol R17.

Who really cares any more about these dull, hide-bound, over-spending TOFFS!?

R15 thinks Henry VIII is still king. Aristocratic family? What the fuck?

[quote] King Charles Will "Want to See" Archie and Lilibet Over Christmas and Has Already Sent Them "Traditional" Gifts

Prince Archie and Princess Lilibet may live in California with their parents, Prince Harry and Meghan Markle, but their grandfather hasn't forgotten them.

According to a former employee of The King, Charles will be eager to connect with his grandchildren this holiday season.

In an interview with The Sun's Fabulous magazine, Charles' former royal butler, Grant Harrold, said, "I'm willing to bet that there definitely will be some sort of [Zoom] communication on Christmas Day. There's no question." As for who Charles will be most excited to speak with via FaceTime, Harrold claimed, "I'm not talking so much about Harry and Meghan directly, but I have no doubt the King will want to see his grandkids [Lilibet and Archie] on Christmas Day."

It's also likely that King Charles will have organized to have presents delivered to Princess Lilibet and Prince Archie for Christmas. "The King will send gifts," Harrold told the outlet. "I guarantee you that something will be sent, and likewise, gifts will be sent to Grandpa or Grandmother [from the Sussexes]."

Harrold also suggested that The King might get the chance to watch Lilibet and Archie open any gifts he's sent them. "There will be a chance to see each other," Harrold explained. "I'd be surprised if they didn’t FaceTime so they could see the grandchildren opening the gifts he sent them."

Ultimately, the former royal butler is certain that Charles will make contact with Prince Harry's children during the holiday season. "There will definitely, without a doubt, be communication," Harrold said.

As for what Charles may have purchased for Lilibet and Archie, Harrold referenced The King's classic taste, saying, "When it comes to toys and The King—have you ever been to the Highgrove shop? It's all very traditional. The King is very traditional." Harrold continued, "I don't see him buying them an Xbox or something like that—probably too young anyway. It's going to be more traditional, you know, like a wooden farm set or something along those lines."

According to Charles' former butler, The King would, ideally, see his grandchildren in person at Christmas. "I think if [King Charles] had the choice, he'd definitely want everyone together," Harrold told the publication. "He's very much a family man." Harrold reflected on the holidays he spent at the Palace with William, Harry, and their father. "They were such nice times," he explained. "They were very close, and it all just went so nicely."

The former royal butler also alleged that King Charles will be hoping for a reconciliation following the royal rift. "I've said this a hundred times—part of him will be sad about what's taken place," Harrold claimed. "Christmas is seen as a time for families to heal rifts." He continued, "Even if they're not there in person, just talking on Zoom or something can be part of that healing process."

How refreshing! A bunch of Americans who know nothing about Britain and the British Royal Family pontificating about Britain and the British Royal Family.

Why do you care?

We are living through an era of tribal generational hatred towards each other.

The British Royal Family going through this only proves it's a thing.

There is no evidence whatever that the British Royal Family is experiencing "tribal generational hatred".

On the one side there are Harry and Meghan, and on the other side are all the currently living generations of Harry's family (and so would be the Queen and Philip if they were still alive). Even Charlotte can't stand them, as attested to by the flowergirl dress calamity and her ringing the bell on Meghan for taking forbidden photos while at dinner with the then Cambridges.

So I'd say the standoff is between two individuals and everybody else, and the cause has nothing to do with what generation they're from.

Leaving our Andrew (whose problem is again personal, not generational), everyone else in the Windsor group seems to get along pretty well as far as we can tell.

I like the Beard it works well for him! Really balances out his face!

Oops. "Leaving ouT Andrew..."

[quote] Princess Beatrice Suddenly Changes Christmas Plans Due to Pregnancy

Princess Beatrice has changed her Christmas plans due to medical reasons.

A source confirmed to PEOPLE that Beatrice, 36, and her husband Edoardo Mapelli Mozzi, 41, will now be joining the royal family for the Christmas gathering at Sandringham — due to her pregnancy — instead of traveling to be with her in-laws in Italy for the holidays as originally scheduled.

Beatrice likely won’t participate in the walk to church, the source added.

Sandringham is the royal family’s traditional Christmas destination, with King Charles hosting the festivities. Beatrice’s daughter Sienna Elizabeth, 3, and stepson Christopher “Wolfie” Woolf, 8, will also reportedly attend the festivities, according to Hello! magazine.

News broke in October that Beatrice — who is granddaughter of the late Queen Elizabeth II — was expecting another baby.

A statement from Buckingham Palace at the time read, "Her Royal Highness Princess Beatrice and Mr Edoardo Mapelli Mozzi are very pleased to announce that they are expecting their second child together in early spring; a sibling for Wolfie, aged eight, and Sienna, aged three."

Beatrice’s uncle, King Charles, also shared his joy over the announcement. "His Majesty The King has been informed and both families are delighted with the news," the statement continued.

It is PEOPLE’s understanding that Beatrice’s younger sister, Princess Eugenie, 34, will not be in attendance at Sandringham this year, as she previously accepted an invitation to spend the holidays with in-laws.

And while most of the royal family will be in attendance at Sandringham for the holiday, Princess Beatrice’s parents, Prince Andrew and Sarah Ferguson, will be notably absent. The pair — who while no longer married, share a residence at the Royal Lodge on the Windsor estate — reportedly withdrew the initial acceptance of their invitation amid the public uproar over The Duke of York’s alleged dealings with a known Chinese spy.

Prince Andrew, 64, and Ferguson, 65, will likely spend the day at home out of the public eye.

The Independent reported that it was Ferguson who urged Prince Andrew to bow out of Sandringham Christmas amid the scandal, sacrificing her own invitation in the process.

“The decision for the pair to stay put at the Royal Lodge is thought to have been made easier by Princess Beatrice and Princess Eugenie’s plans to spend Christmas with their respective in-laws this year for the first time,” the outlet reported.

Who's the gay guy with oriental kid next to Princess Beatrice?

Oh FFS it was a Dec 19 lunchy thing. The couple has 3 young children.

Christmas isn’t a month.

[quote]Christmas isn’t a month.

Seriously? Where do you live?

What about Anne?

[quote] What about Anne?

Who?

Charles looks like he's surrounded by strangers.

William looks likehe's s seething in anger/ with rage in OP's photo.

He looks mean

I had best get the tiara I demanded. Or else.

Kate and Charles both have terminal cancer. Quality time is important now.

[quote] King Charles Is "Sad" Sarah Ferguson Canceled Sandringham Christmas Plans After "Many Years in Exile"

Prince Andrew and Sarah Ferguson won't be traveling to Sandringham to spend Christmas with the Royal Family. And according to one royal expert, King Charles is likely feeling quite sad that the Duchess of York won't be in attendance.

Former BBC royal correspondent Jennie Bond discussed Ferguson's decision to withdraw from visiting Sandringham for Christmas in an interview with OK! (via GB News). "This will be a blow for Fergie," she explained. "She was so effusive last Christmas and was clearly delighted to be included in the family festivities after so many years in exile."

However, Ferguson has continually made it clear that she will stand by Prince Andrew, no matter what. So if the Duke of York is required to take a step back from official royal events, it seems that Ferguson will continue do the same. "But her loyalty has always been to Andrew and she will stick by his side... wherever they spend the day," Bond explained.

It's been reported that the Duke and Duchess of York are planning to spend Christmas at their home, Royal Lodge in Windsor.

Bond also noted that the monarch is likely to be sad that Ferguson can't attend his Christmas party at Sandringham. "I think The King has a soft spot for Fergie, especially after their shared cancer experience," the royal correspondent explained. "She always brings a spot of fun to proceedings." Bond continued, "So he will probably be a little sad that she will now stay away from Sandringham, to stand shoulder to shoulder with her ex."

Royal editor Rebecca English recently appeared on Mail+'s "Palace Confidential," where she sang Ferguson's praises, particularly following Andrew's scandals. "Sarah, the Duchess of York has literally saved Christmas for the Royal Family," English said. "If it hadn't have been for his ex-wife having a quiet word in his ear," then the holiday season could have been pretty disastrous."

I met Sarah in the US many years ago in my local Macy's (not NYC). She was there to promote line of British table wares. A large group of fans gathered, and she walked past, greeting and shaking hands. Because I purchased a large platter, I got a second chance to speak to her when she signed it.

I thought "Fergie" was pretty cool.

R41, Charles, probably. But why do you think so with Catherine?

R41 There is no evidence that Kate has terminal cancer.

After reading the article at R42, I have to wonder why Andrew and Fergie never remarried.

R1 - The should eliminate the monarchy and confiscate ALL of their I’ll gotten loot .

So that Bezos, Musk, Thiel, and Putin (and assorted more low-key world billionaires) can acquire the Crown Jewels and the royal residences, r47? Yeah, ever so much better. I mean, they would have to be sold off, once and done, for any confiscation to be worthwhile.

Merry Christmas everyone!

Crazy Louis will finish them all off!

[quote] Royals' Walk to Christmas Service Reveals Deep Family Dysfunction

The British royal family put on a brave face on Christmas, ignoring deep fault lines within it, as its chief members, led by King Charles and Queen Camilla, walked, as is customary, to church on the Sandringham estate, closing out a year likely to be remembered for a rolling succession of health crises.

Both the king and Kate Middleton announced they had cancer this year. Kate has since said she is cancer-free but Charles continues to have weekly treatment.

The annual walk to the Church of St, Mary Magdalene is designed to transmit an impression of unity and conventional family values. Despite a rapturous reception by a crowd estimated at over 1,000 at this year’s promenade, it masked deep fractures within the family.

While Kate and William and their children George, Charlotte and Louis were the stars of the show, there was zero public acknowledgement of the king’s other son, Prince Harry, his wife, Meghan Markle or their children, Prince Archie and Princess Lilibet, who are in self-exile in California.

Similarly, there was no place for Prince Andrew, who has been drawn into another financial scandal, or his ex-wife with whom he still lives, Sarah Ferguson, who was apparently banished again after being restored to the family Christmas celebrations only last year.

Bizarrely, even their pregnant daughter Princess Beatrice and her husband Edoardo Mapelli Mozzi skipped joining her parents, who are believed to be dining a deux at Andrew’s home, in favor of walking to church with the royals.

The king’s annual speech was due to be broadcast later in the day after being taped in a hospital chapel, marking the first time in 18 years that a monarch’s address has not been filmed at a royal residence.

[quote] zero public acknowledgement of the king’s other son, Prince Harry, his wife, Meghan Markle or their children, Prince Archie and Princess Lilibet, who are in self-exile in California.

What are they expecting them to do walk to church holding up a banner saying #RememberHarry or something?

What an idiotic headline that's basically refuted in the text. And they skimped on photos highlighting all the alleged dysfunction/discord.

[quote] Prince Edward and Duchess Sophie Were Reportedly "Less Than Pleased" at the Thought of Bunking With Prince Andrew at Sandringham This Year

Prince Andrew backed out of Christmas with the rest of the Royal Family this year amid his recent "Chinese spy" scandal (reportedly after a fair amount of convincing from ex-wife Sarah Ferguson). But before he made the decision to stay home at Royal Lodge, it seems the Duke of York was set to share living quarters with his brother and sister-in-law—and no one was thrilled about the situation.

According to the Sun, Prince Edward and his wife, Sophie (a.k.a. the Duke and Duchess of Edinburgh) were “less than pleased” when they found out they'd be staying under the same roof as Prince Andrew and Fergie.

A royal insider told the outlet that the Duke and Duchess of Edinburgh weren't thrilled about staying “cheek by jowl with the Yorks” at Wood Farm, the Sandringham cottage where Prince Philip lived during his retirement. The source continued that the Edinburghs were reportedly "relieved" when the Duchess of York "encouraged and cajoled" Prince Andrew to pull out of the festivities.

According to multiple outlets, Fergie was instrumental in getting her ex-husband to see why it wouldn't be appropriate to join the Royal Family for the holidays after his ties to suspected Chinese spy Yang Tengbo were discovered this month.

King Charles and Queen Camilla, with whom Ferguson is close, are said to have counted on the Duchess of York to "literally save Christmas," as Rebecca English said on the Daily Mail's Palace Confidential program.

The royal editor continued that the royals "very much appreciate and are grateful for [Ferguson] saying to Andrew, 'Look why don't we just take a step back this year and see where the future lies.'"

As for the rest of the celebrations, it's going to be a packed house at Sandringham, with more than 45 members of the family gathering to enjoy the royals' rather unique Christmas traditions. And while Prince Andrew and Ferguson won't be in attendance, their eldest daughter, Princess Beatrice, is a last-minute addition to the guest list after her pregnancy forced her to cancel plans to visit her in-laws in Italy.

Kaye looks like she gained a couple pounds. Her face isn’t gaunt and she looks younger.

It’s weird that Andrew and Fergie are divorced, yet live together and seem to be best friends.

It's nice to see the RF is welcoming to Wolfie.

[quote] How refreshing! A bunch of Americans who know nothing about Britain and the British Royal Family pontificating about Britain and the British Royal Family.

[quote]Why do you care?

And why should we [bold]not[/bold] care? Like it or not, the British royals are international celebrities and are discussed all over the world by many people who are not British subjects or members of Commonwealth nations. We discuss them the same we discuss any international celebrities here--this is a gay gossip board, after all.

But of course, you know this already, Royal Family Troll. But as usual you're full of anti-American bile, and it just can't help coming out when there's a thread about the royal family. I expect we'll now get dozens of posts from you (again as usual) attacking Americans, complaining about how we know nothing about the royal family, how we should not be discussing them, etc. etc. Your usual nasty screeds.

You are the trolliest troll who ever trolled on DL.

[quote] Princess Eugenie Skipped Royal Christmas as Show of Loyalty: Andrew and Sussexes Are ‘a Big Wedge’

Princess Eugenie skipped Princess Kate’s royal Christmas celebration, "Together At Christmas" carol service, as a show of loyalty toward her father Prince Andrew and the exiled Sussexes, according to an insider who exclusively tells In Touch the move has landed her in a tricky place with sister Beatrice, who made a last-minute change of plans to make sure she could attend the celebrations.

“Officially, Eugenie stayed behind to be with her mom and dad, but truth be told, she wasn't very welcome,” the source says of the 34-year-old princess.

Eugenie’s shamed father Prince Andrew is still persona non grata among the royal cadre, despite his daughters lobbying King Charles to thaw out their frozen relations. “The two princesses have spoken to their uncle, asking him to forgive Andrew and for the two brothers to mend fences,” a second source previously dished to In Touch about the situation.

Just over three years ago, the wayward prince brought horrible shame – and bad press – to The Firm after a scandal involving his alleged friendship with Jeffrey Epstein made headlines. In response to a lawsuit brought against the red-faced royal accusing him of abusing a teenager, Andrew settled in August 2021, paying his accuser, Virginia Giuffre, an estimated $12 million — despite still insisting he’s done no wrong.

“The queen and Charles were both shocked over the allegations against Andrew,” that source said. “And although the prince still insists he was not guilty, Charles and the queen stripped him of some of his honors, and he is no longer a working royal.”

The first source says Eugenie “believes that her dad's getting a raw deal,” and the other royals know it – “so it’s not like she’s really even trying to fit in at this point.”

The sisters’ efforts still haven’t paid off as Andrew remains completely iced out of royal life, but they have been making inroads with another one of their causes: getting their family to welcome Harry and Meghan back into the royal fold.

The Sussexes even recently bought a vacation home in Portugal near where Beatrice and her husband spend their summers. The relationship between Harry, 40, and his cousins hasn’t taken a hit, despite the red-headed prince and his wife, 43, walking away from their official duties and jetting off to live in North America.

“People are still very suspicious of her association with the Sussexes,” the insider continues, “the fact that she’s been so loyal towards them has put a big wedge between her and the rest of the family.”

“Beatrice on the other hand is making a big effort not to rock the boat and has stayed very neutral when it comes to Meghan and Harry. Eugenie and Beatrice have very different views on the Sussexes in particular, which has caused a bit of tension and put them in a tough spot.”

No point in being around toxic narcissist assholes. This is actually rats deciding to stay on the sinking ship. RF here for the long run, Andrew and Sussex crew not.