I think this is Gen Z’s Joker moment.
Women go WILD when Luigi Mangioni’s mugshot projected at rave
by Anonymous | reply 80 | December 17, 2024 4:37 AM |
Plenty of men's voices, too, OP.
by Anonymous | reply 2 | December 14, 2024 12:38 PM |
it's amazing what being good looking can do for you. fuck you god.
by Anonymous | reply 3 | December 14, 2024 12:42 PM |
I actually disagree with this being totally about him being goodlooking
1. He’s kind of niche goodlooking (think Rami Malek)
2. He would not be celebrated if he raped or killed a woman
They are celebrating him because they LIKE what he did.
I will add though, that they probably would not be celebrating if the CEO had also been good looking.
by Anonymous | reply 4 | December 14, 2024 12:48 PM |
Note that they did not start cheering until they showed the orange jumpsuit mugshot
They are cheering for what he did
by Anonymous | reply 5 | December 14, 2024 12:49 PM |
Talk about this during the holidays with your MAGA family and friends instead of the Orange Menace. This is where most of us agree and change can happen.
by Anonymous | reply 6 | December 14, 2024 12:55 PM |
I get it, but he murdered a man and a father in cold blood while his own father has made millions doing the same exploitation of pain, suffering and aging that gave Luigi a very affluent life. There is something very Oedipal about it all that I can't define yet.
by Anonymous | reply 7 | December 14, 2024 12:55 PM |
How many fathers did that father kill with a PDF?
by Anonymous | reply 8 | December 14, 2024 12:57 PM |
[quote] his own father has made millions doing the same exploitation of pain, suffering and aging that gave Luigi a very affluent life
You left out the part where Luigi went postal because that privilege didn't save him when it was his turn to need something from United Healthcare after he got a severe back injury. How convenient that is.
by Anonymous | reply 9 | December 14, 2024 1:00 PM |
[QUOTE]when it was his turn to need something from United Healthcare
He was never enrolled in UHC.
by Anonymous | reply 10 | December 14, 2024 1:08 PM |
[quote]… that they probably would not be celebrating if the CEO had also been good looking.
The more truth revealed about that CEO, the level of public sympathy declines. Much is being made that he’s a family man with kids.
The CEO and wife lived in separate upscale homes in the same neighborhood.
by Anonymous | reply 11 | December 14, 2024 1:13 PM |
Perhaps not (I've seen stories where that was the case, and there may have also been some things with his grandparents and attempts to take over his parents' businesses), but he wasn't inherently deranged. He was doing very well indeed. The billionaire/Josh Shapiro talking point is to say that somehow he's inherently deranged. That Oedipal bullshit.
by Anonymous | reply 12 | December 14, 2024 1:14 PM |
LOL they were never his insurance
LBH the reason he killed him is because he knew killing a health insurance CEO with make him popular.
by Anonymous | reply 13 | December 14, 2024 1:15 PM |
Sure, Josh. We're not buying it.
by Anonymous | reply 14 | December 14, 2024 1:18 PM |
R9, still, it doesn't give him the right to kill a man. It sounds like you are mistaken given what R10 posted.
- R7
by Anonymous | reply 15 | December 14, 2024 1:20 PM |
Nobody said he should have killed the man. Everyone is understanding why he did, though. Huge difference. Just who are you defending here?
by Anonymous | reply 16 | December 14, 2024 1:23 PM |
You're not the only one who hears the right wing talking points, trollerinas. Don't expect comfort here.
by Anonymous | reply 18 | December 14, 2024 1:26 PM |
The thing is, he is educated, smart, well-heeled, and charismatically good looking. Instead of killing that guy, he should've become a political activist for affordable healthcare. He would've made a much bigger impact.
by Anonymous | reply 19 | December 14, 2024 1:26 PM |
BWAHWHAWHAHA bullshit. You are a fucking case if you believe that crap. They've been working on this issue since Truman was president and the AMA said no to universal healthcare.
Sorry, you don't get off that easy.
Take notes, everyone! This is what conservabot media is telling the MAGA drones.
by Anonymous | reply 20 | December 14, 2024 1:30 PM |
Piggybacking on what i wrote at R4
I watched the Armie Hammer podcast (yeah i know)
Almost everyone would agree Armie Hammer was objectively very good looking; he would appeal to a very wide swath of people who are attracted to men
After the scandal broke, Hammer says he was deluged with instant messages from women telling him he was a monster and he needed to kill himself. (28:30)
This is because he was accused of hurting women. Pretty privilege cannot overcome the innate fear women have of being raped or beaten by a larger stronger man.
So this isn’t about Mangioni just being goodlooking. They genuinely approve of what he did. Prettiness made it palatable to say it out loud.
by Anonymous | reply 21 | December 14, 2024 1:30 PM |
MAGA is afraid of losing all the Bernie bros who went Trump.
by Anonymous | reply 22 | December 14, 2024 1:32 PM |
Another good contrast: Dzhokhar Tsarnaev
At the time if his arrest it was commented widely that he was good looking
But he was never made a folk hero or internet thirst object
Because his killing - random, senseless - awoke real world fears of women being unable to protect their children
So the Mangioni phenomenon is directly tied to approval of his choice of victim as well as method of execution (targeted assassination with no other victims).
by Anonymous | reply 23 | December 14, 2024 1:41 PM |
[Quote]I will add though, that they probably would not be celebrating if the CEO had also been good looking.
Or if Luigi was black, or Asian.
Or if he'd shot a woman CEO in the head.
by Anonymous | reply 24 | December 14, 2024 1:42 PM |
[Quote]But he was never made a folk hero or internet thirst object
He was. He has a cult of fan girls. Not on the Luigi scale, but that's probably about his Muslim Czechen background.
by Anonymous | reply 25 | December 14, 2024 1:46 PM |
R16, people are celebrating the murder. They are ecstatic. Didn't thousands go after the woman who reported him? There is a big difference between understanding vs. celebrating a murderer and turning the murderer into a cultural hero, especially when the murderer's father could be seen as culpable of the same crimes.
by Anonymous | reply 27 | December 14, 2024 1:48 PM |
And that's a shame, r24, but corporations manipulate these dynamics of mass appeal all the time. It's high time it was used against them.
by Anonymous | reply 28 | December 14, 2024 1:49 PM |
If he was a goodlooking black man who killed a healthcare CEO, the response might be the same
After all, look what the internet did to Jeremy Meeks
by Anonymous | reply 29 | December 14, 2024 1:50 PM |
Keep taking notes, everyone, and DON'T MENTION TRUMP when you discuss this in open settings. It's not about her.
by Anonymous | reply 30 | December 14, 2024 1:53 PM |
He needed a better escape plan
by Anonymous | reply 31 | December 14, 2024 1:55 PM |
He may have wanted to get caught. Lots of unknowns. All we know is what was on his socials and what the friends are telling the media...oh yeah, and the police want us to know he pissed his pants.
by Anonymous | reply 32 | December 14, 2024 1:58 PM |
R23, bull. Rolling Stone ran a very pin-up looking cover that was extremely controversial at the time.
Fortunately, women and twink-lovers aren't usually attracted to Muslim nationalist extremists. Plus bombing isn't sexy like shooting. Plus the images of him hiding out in that boat weren't very studly.
And few Americans care about Chechnya, but almost all Americans have had negative experiences with health care insurance.
by Anonymous | reply 33 | December 14, 2024 1:59 PM |
It's a combination of everything. If he was an ugly fat incel like Kyle Rittenhouse and killed the CEO, he would have very few fangurls. If he was who he is and just became an activist, he might have a solid social media following, but nothing extraordinary. He's a cult figure because he truly was a man who had it all, young, eligible, blessed with beauty and brains and from a privileged background, and he sacrificed everything for the greater good.
by Anonymous | reply 34 | December 14, 2024 2:01 PM |
Covers like the Rolling Stone acknowledge the cognitive dissonance of recognizing that a killer is good looking, but they do it because they know it will be controversial. It’s not organic.
This is completely organic.
by Anonymous | reply 35 | December 14, 2024 2:03 PM |
[quote]It's a combination of everything. If he was an ugly fat incel like Kyle Rittenhouse
Didn't stop Shaprio and Hannity's thirstiness!
by Anonymous | reply 36 | December 14, 2024 2:04 PM |
Those are girlinas at the "rave", screaming their love for Luigi.
by Anonymous | reply 37 | December 14, 2024 2:12 PM |
I think what Luigi did was wrong and don't condone it in any way.
But I'm not at all surprised that he's become a folk hero.
We've had decades of increasing, seemingly insatiable corporate greed, where corporations have just grown and grown and grown, with little to no benefit to the average person. In the last few decades, with decisions like Citizens United, it's become clear that our federal government has all but abandoned individual citizens and handed power to corporations. The price gouging and supply chain issues of the pandemic were completely in the hands of corporations, not the government.
I'd wager that a majority of Americans, regardless of party, feel powerless in the face of corporations choking the very life out of us to meet a quarterly dividend target. While few of us would ever glorify or condone a murder, I understand why some would cheer on an individual's attempt to fight the system.
And yes, we are a visual culture - most of us either lived through the 70s/80s or were born after it, in the MTV/ad age of it all, so Luigi's handsome good looks play into the confusing array of emotions, especially for younger people watching it all from the sidelines.
by Anonymous | reply 38 | December 14, 2024 2:24 PM |
R29- He’s a light skinned black man with light eyes- not so much worship if he looked like a typical dark skinned Nigerian.
by Anonymous | reply 39 | December 14, 2024 2:35 PM |
And it took Elvis to withstand the controversies of good black music that was produced at the time. The unfairness of mass appeal exists, and it's a sad reality. Just like Dubya and the Orange Menace's lies having mass appeal. It's nice to have it work our way for a change.
by Anonymous | reply 40 | December 14, 2024 2:38 PM |
It's a mental disorder called HYBRISTOPHILIA, sexual attraction to dangerous criminals.
It mainly affects women but also some gay men, as evident by the mugshots thread and now Luigi.
Hybristophiliacs are the ones who write to prisoners, particularly famous ones, and may even become personally involved with them.
Ted Bundy and Richard Ramirez both married their #1 groupie.
by Anonymous | reply 41 | December 14, 2024 2:40 PM |
Mama's Mussy is totally r41.
by Anonymous | reply 42 | December 14, 2024 2:42 PM |
[quote]The unfairness of mass appeal exists, and it's a sad reality. Just like Dubya and the Orange Menace's lies having mass appeal. It's nice to have it work our way for a change.
What's that supposed to mean?
by Anonymous | reply 43 | December 14, 2024 2:43 PM |
It means that logic and fairness doesn't always apply to what appeals to people.
by Anonymous | reply 44 | December 14, 2024 2:45 PM |
R44 I got the first part, but the "it's nice to have it work our way for a change" confused me.
by Anonymous | reply 45 | December 14, 2024 2:48 PM |
You don't get how advertisers and politicians manipulate this dynamic, r43?
by Anonymous | reply 46 | December 14, 2024 2:50 PM |
Also "go our way" doesn't mean "approve CEO murder" it means "shine a light on how bad the health insurance greed is and what it drives people to"
by Anonymous | reply 47 | December 14, 2024 2:53 PM |
Bundy/Ramirez have more to do with that Eros/Thanatos drive. Eros/Thanatos afflicts everyone, it just results in things like the near universal fascination women have with true crime shows (SNL did a perceptive parody of it which likened it to female masturbation), and for us, the AIDS crisis.
I don’t think Luigi is Eros/Thanatos because this was a targeted political assassination, so there is not the innate fear that he will kill YOU which is the necessary component in Eros/Thanatos.
by Anonymous | reply 48 | December 14, 2024 2:58 PM |
And you wonder why gay men hold you dumb cunts in contempt?
by Anonymous | reply 49 | December 14, 2024 3:09 PM |
[quote]Mangioni
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by Anonymous | reply 50 | December 14, 2024 3:22 PM |
[quote]Also "go our way" doesn't mean "approve CEO murder" it means "shine a light on how bad the health insurance greed is and what it drives people to"
Frankly, all this will do is make people think that women should not be in positions of power, that they're generally emotionally unstable.
by Anonymous | reply 51 | December 14, 2024 3:47 PM |
Um, people already think that.
by Anonymous | reply 52 | December 14, 2024 3:50 PM |
Women are emotionally unstable? When was the last time a woman killed a stranger in cold blood on the street?
And are there not dozens of threads on DL full of gay men lusting after Luigi and various other criminals? I guess they don't belong in positions of power, either.
by Anonymous | reply 53 | December 14, 2024 3:52 PM |
r48's misogyny was particularly insidious. Eros/Thanatos is a Freudian trope that appears in media, but does't have empirical evidence to back it up.
by Anonymous | reply 54 | December 14, 2024 4:01 PM |
MARY!
I mean
LUIGI!
by Anonymous | reply 55 | December 15, 2024 3:18 AM |
[quote] Nobody said he should have killed the man. Everyone is understanding why he did, though. Huge difference. Just who are you defending here?
No one is "understanding" why he killed a man. It is beyond comprehension why a young man of privilege would throw away his life to murder a man who'd never wronged him. If he had killed someone who was truly repugnant, evil and worthless, and who had personally aggrieved him, then maybe we could start to understand. As it is, there is no understanding what he did.
by Anonymous | reply 56 | December 15, 2024 4:21 AM |
All the girls want to know, who's the cutest boy on death row?
by Anonymous | reply 57 | December 15, 2024 4:47 AM |
No, R56 has no understanding of what he did.
by Anonymous | reply 58 | December 15, 2024 4:54 AM |
This is where the corporates really fuck with people. Administrative environments and workplaces are seen as spaces of civility, allowing them to say anyone upset at administrative evil is uncivil and needs tone policing, It also isn't visual enough to be good TV, so death by PDF doesn't get reported.
by Anonymous | reply 59 | December 15, 2024 8:31 AM |
R56 It's only beyond comprehension if you can't comprehend that someone from a privileged background can feel empathy for people who are not.
by Anonymous | reply 60 | December 15, 2024 8:44 AM |
Hey, btw, I posted the other thread on this. You're missing one quite fascinating detail: the party was a 'Bop to the Top Tour' event where DJs play music from the Disney Channel. The song is by Hannah Montana. I'm not sure any event for young people could possibly be more vanilla than this.
by Anonymous | reply 61 | December 15, 2024 8:47 AM |
It's not a RAVE, sweetie!
by Anonymous | reply 62 | December 15, 2024 8:49 AM |
[QUOTE]If he had killed someone who was truly repugnant, evil and worthless, and who had personally aggrieved him, then maybe we could start to understand.
So much value judgement and vacuum for corporate America that continually aggrieves and abuses in order to thrive and produce "healthy, if not healthier dividends" for their stockholders on the backs of the unnecessarily dead and those in unwarranted, but solvable pain.
You stated your value and who you are, r56.
by Anonymous | reply 63 | December 15, 2024 9:49 AM |
Who doesn't love a guy named Luigi? ❤️
by Anonymous | reply 64 | December 15, 2024 12:42 PM |
[quote] murder a man who'd never wronged him
I think many would beg to differ on this point. The horrifying way people are treated by insurers doesn't happen in a vacuum. Who holds the ultimate responsibility?
by Anonymous | reply 65 | December 15, 2024 3:03 PM |
Billionaires.
by Anonymous | reply 66 | December 15, 2024 3:04 PM |
That rave looks god awful. They cheer in the video when the song stops.
by Anonymous | reply 67 | December 15, 2024 4:26 PM |
[quote] They are celebrating him because they LIKE what he did.
And he looked good doing it, r4.
by Anonymous | reply 68 | December 15, 2024 4:29 PM |
[quote] LBH the reason he killed him is because he knew killing a health insurance CEO with make him popular.
And he was right, R13.
by Anonymous | reply 69 | December 15, 2024 4:30 PM |
R4 Boy bye. He’s definitely ethnic looking but he is still traditionally good looking. Malik is not. Greasy sexy brilliant Italian fuck. If I were a correctional officer I’d help him escape.
by Anonymous | reply 70 | December 15, 2024 4:40 PM |
Continuing on women who are fixated on true crime, this piece from July notes many of them are abuse survivors obsessed with justice / retribution.
by Anonymous | reply 71 | December 15, 2024 5:03 PM |
Dearest Luigi, I hope this blowjob finds you well...
by Anonymous | reply 73 | December 15, 2024 5:15 PM |
After weeks in the pokey he'll have a huge gushing load to spill.
by Anonymous | reply 74 | December 15, 2024 6:52 PM |
[quote] You stated your value and who you are, [R56].
As you have yours and you -- applauding someone's murder from the safety of a keyboard. Disgraceful. Most of the people who think the killer is a hero probably didn't even bother to vote.
by Anonymous | reply 75 | December 15, 2024 8:01 PM |
R75 i’m clapping for that pigs death rn as i read your bootlicking post
by Anonymous | reply 76 | December 15, 2024 8:20 PM |
"I get it, but he murdered a man and a father in cold blood while his own father has made millions doing the same exploitation of pain, suffering and aging that gave Luigi a very affluent life. There is something very Oedipal about it all that I can't define yet"
I personally think it makes him more likeable---not to me, but broadly. People like the fact that he recognizes the system is immoral and fucked even though he likely personally benefited.
by Anonymous | reply 77 | December 16, 2024 3:44 AM |
[quote]all this will do is make people think that women should not be in positions of power, that they're generally emotionally unstable.
by Anonymous | reply 78 | December 16, 2024 8:27 AM |
[quote] The more truth revealed about that CEO, the level of public sympathy declines. Much is being made that he’s a family man with kids. The CEO and wife lived in separate upscale homes in the same neighborhood.
Now that I know that I realize his children probably didn’t cry at all.
by Anonymous | reply 79 | December 16, 2024 8:38 AM |