Tasteful Friends: Newman & Woodward Edition

Listing with photos:

Breathtaking views marred by the skinny skyscrapers littering the south views. I think this is overpriced by 30 percent.

I love it. It's funny because my friend lives in one of Joanne's old childhood homes and this apartment reminds me of it.

Beautiful place. The article made me melancholy, andend to the lives of very extraordinary people during an extraordinary time.

Understated, just like Paul and Joanne themselves.

I like the plan because it suits my priorities: one large living room, a variety of small reception rooms, and one bedroom stick a distance away. The ample terraces are a bonus, and circulation, if a little quirky, is fine.

The children)heirs allude to the one-bedroom thing, saying it's a place good for a short and not a long stay (especially if for more than one couple.)

Unfortunately the architectural finishes are underwhelming, the ceilings a bit low, and the proportions a bit off (a penthouse problem, I assume.). I could certainly make myself comfortable there, but it's not an exciting space. The park view would be great, but too high up for me and the reservoir view is just bleak And dull (aware I'm probably alone in that opinion, but views over big bodies of still water don't do much for me; I'd rather see other buildings.)

I'd be much happier spending substantially less for better architecture and sacrifice the big terraces and pricey view.

B-but Joanne is still alive! Is she considered a furnishing at this point?

The sunsets must be extraordinary, especially the light reflected off the surface of the reservoir.

It’s stunning. Spacious and filled with light. Some of the rooms are long and narrow, which I usually hate, but they have such good views that it isn’t really a problem. The terraces are a big plus.

Two refrigerators in the kitchen...were they Orthodox?

They liked to keep their cold vodkas separate, R10.

The terraces and the views are outstanding. The interior layout (especially the kitchen) seems a little odd. However, it is understated and looks comfortable. If I had the cash, I would have snapped up this place and made minor changes (mostly in that kitchen).

bespoke quiet luxury

I´m accustomed to being alone in this perspective, but a view of the reservoir is not a plus for me. Large bodies of still water are sad. I would rather look at trees or buildings, or given the Fith Avenue address, both (not a few buildings poking up oiver that depressing pond.)

Beautiful place, if very blandly decorated. Just one bedroom too makes me think its a tad overpriced.

R14 How about if it had a bird’s eye view of The Ramble?

Better than looking at a reservoir, R16, but I'd prefer a view not too high above the trees, punctuated with some architecture near and far.

I prefers a skyline view with a bit of green. If I wanted to look out over a boring lake, there's always Wisconsin

[quote] How about if it had a bird’s eye view of The Ramble?

Never as good as a knee-level view of the Ramble.

Can't believe she's been dealing with Alzheimer's since 2007. What a slog.

R11 "They liked to keep their cold vodkas separate, [R10]."

Just like their cold beds.

Didn't they have a soundproof fuck room in one of their homes?

13k monthly fees. Otherwise, I’d buy it today!

R21 Which they booked separately by the hour

For that kind of money, you can do better. Besides, it is under contract.

Glorified one-bedroom.

Are they still alive?

It's beautiful place, but 95th and 5th seems a bit far north.

The terraces are incredible.

Paul Newman's crapper!

To R27, "a bit far North", seriously? The rules of "the right places to live in society are dead" All that "society shit" died in the 1980s.

Awesome terraces, I love the location& looking at the reservoir.

[quote]bespoke quiet luxury

Let's see:

Oh, dear, for lazy "cunt text" lack of punctuation;

Oh, dear, for not knowing the definition of "bespoke";

Oh, dear, for being so proud to (mis)use "bespoke";

Oh, dear, miscontruing "luxury," again, lazily;

Oh, dear, for trying to be elegant with "quiet" but ending up with an ambiguity that ignores the inevitable road and rumble of traffic at that location, as elevation in NYC is not "quiet.."

Oh, dear r30, you sound so sad and hostile: a spiteful toddler, lashing out.

I hope 2025 brings you some peace of mind.

R27 = not from New York.

^^^^NO SHIT-Philly-white project trash Schuylkill Falls project East Falls^^^^

R33, time to renew the meds.

Wow, I could have sworn Woodward died years ago!

To R34, I'll send the meds to you-need them more. What do you need?

Imagine living like that. I wouldn't even know how.

Paul died 16 years ago. Joanne has been dealing with dementia for at least 8 years. She obviously wasn't living there either. Not sure why it took so long to put this on the market.

R27 I knew someone who lived in that neighborhood, it's one of the nicest in Manhattan, in part because there are so few tourists and commercial traffic. It's mostly residential with the most picturesque Central Park vistas. Having a penthouse there must be amazing.

The terrace views are spectacular. The apartment itself is understated and relaxing. For once, I think the price is more than fair, especially for those views.

And whomever above thought the view of the reservoir is "sad," I couldn't disagree more. It's stunning.

R27, why do you think it’s too far north? What street would be preferable? Please do not wake up that psycho INCEL who came after you.

Even if you're traveling by subway, you can take the 6 train to 96th Street station and you're in the Carnegie Hill neighborhood. Super convenient. It's a lot closer to midtown than Tribeca or the Financial District.

If you're traveling by subway, you don't live in that apartment (or that neighborhood).

My friend lived just 2 blocks from that building and he always took the subway.

Could he afford not to, R44?

He had a very good paying job at an advertising agency. Subway was quicker and easier. I would only visit him by subway. He would only took a cab if it was after midnight. I'm not sure what this aversion to taking a train in NYC is about. A bus however is another story.

No aversion to taking a train, R46. I'm just saying chances are, anyone buying this apartment isn't riding the subway.

Yeah, perhaps if you can afford a $10M penthouse apartment you are taking a chauffeur limo everywhere. But if you are living in the neighborhood and do not have a parking garage space, you are taking the subway.

[QUOTE]Can't believe she's been dealing with Alzheimer's since 2007. What a slog.

Yes it is. My mother was diagnosed in 2008 and died in 2021 which was also considered long. Her physician told me average age from diagnosis to death is seven years. She probably could have gone on longer if she had been cooperative with meds and Covid, which got her in the nursing home, hadn't come along. I imagine it's improved since then with new medications. Joanne's probably got 24 hr at home health care and if she cooperates with a med regimen, both contributing to longevity.

Not true, R43.

R50, if you're living in that apartment or any along Fifth Avenue, you're not riding the subway or you are as some kind of rich egalitarian, not because you have to.

My aunt (by marriage) lived just over 20 years after she was diagnosed with Alzheimers. I'm not sure if that's a blessing or a curse. She didn't recognize anybody during the last 12 years.

[quote] I'm not sure if that's a blessing or a curse.

R52, it's a curse for everyone else.

I was just about to say the same thing, r53.

R49

R51, I KNOW PEOPLE who ride the subways and buses and live on Fifth Avenue, Where does your info come from, an Audrey Hepburn movie?

Looks like they gutted it in the 1980’s and the reno held up MUCH better than many of that era because they didn’t work against the building’s vintage, but it’s worn and dated now.

I’m guessing it will be cheaper to re-do than something in maintained, original condition. But something in original condition would have more charm.

I disagree with R6’s opinion on the reservoir views, but that’s an astute assessment.

[quote] I KNOW PEOPLE who ride the subways and buses and live on Fifth Avenue

Well, R55, considering real estate on the Upper East Side on 5th Avenue costs millions, color me dubious at all these millionaires riding the subways, but since you seem to know some of them personally, or so you claim, I suppose there must be a few--at least the ones you "know."

Jackie isn't on assistance anymore, r57, she got a waitressing job.

R57 = Audrey Hepburn fan

What's wrong with Audrey Hepburn, R59?

It's the ghetto. I work at 1140 6th and no way I go out during the day. No amenities or places to shop. Crowds of tourists 24/7. Hard pass.

1140 SIXTH Avenue, R61?

R61 is in the wrong neighborhood, and neither address is a ghetto.

R57, so you think millionaires take hired car service to get around NYC? May be Paul Newman and Jackie O did, but everyone else too the subway.

[quote] so you think millionaires take hired car service to get around NYC?

Yes, R64, I would imagine many do--the more millions they have, the more definitely they do.

[quote] but everyone else too the subway.

You're SO sure all these millionaires ride buses and subways. Adorable.

They have cars or cars with drivers.

My mother was worth 25 million $, R65. She took the subway, buses and taxis.

So nice to hear from the underclass with dreams of private limos.

[quote] I like the plan because it suits my priorities: one large living room, a variety of small reception rooms, and one bedroom stick a distance away.

R6, I don't see a variety of small reception rooms. Just the foyer and I guess you could call the library / bedroom a reception area.

Where does the "stick" come into play?

Ah, the "elite" like R67 and his mother with their supposed millions, calling others the "underclass." How abosolutely Trumpy of you, Cunty.

I thought if you had money (supposedly) it meant it might actually bought you some class, but R67 proves otherwise.

Spectacular views, but I don't like it. The rooms are odd-shaped (too long and narrow with built-ins on the long walls, not the short walls), especially the primary bedroom.

You know how you know R67 is lying? People with $25 million don't brag about how much money they have. Because it's gauche.

Lord only knows what transpired on that terrace.

If I had a choice, I think I would rather have a view of another part of Central Park.

BTW, that reservoir is the Jackie Kennedy Onassis Reservoir. Seriously.

[quote] BTW, that reservoir is the Jackie Kennedy Onassis Reservoir. Seriously.

Yes, R73, it's common knowledge that's the name of it. What's so surprising about that?

I'm not from NY and no one has yet mentioned that. Is that okay to remark on that? I hope so.

The staging isn’t bad, for realtors. There may have been more interest to think if buyers could buy a piece of the Newman‘s meubles!

R69, if you read R65’s snarky response to my post, you’d understand why I wrote it that way. Unless you are R65 just trying to be a bitch.

The subway is usually the fastest way to get anywhere . People don’t take the subway because they are “egalitarian.” They take it because they’re practical.

I don’t care for it. It’s a beige box. I’m guessing that’s not what it looked like when J and P had it.

Does anyone know the square footage of this place?

R80: Some crude math from the floor plan referenced against the selling agent's claim of approximately 2000 sf of terrace suggests it's approximately 1500sf of interior space (everything shown on plan).

[quote]I don't see a variety of small reception rooms. Just the foyer and I guess you could call the library / bedroom a reception area.

R68: I described the spaces shown on the plan as foyer, dining room, and library/2nd bedroom as "small reception rooms" meaning small in relation to the large living room and reception in the sense of rooms where for receiving guests. If you buy ut, the rooms become whatever you call them or whatever you you put them to. Room names are not carved in stone only fixed in time or how a realtor chooses to present them.

A realtor will typically call any room with a window and a closet a bedroom thinking it is more marketable as such. In fact, not everyone who buys a duplex 7-bedroom UES apartment has a great big family and needs 7 bedrooms plus 4 maid's rooms. A lot of old floor plans for apartment buildings get reused (with minor adjustments) and the old nomenclature for rooms gets reused as well.

"stick" ---> stuck, my mistake

Thanks R81.

The views alone are worth it.