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AOC Warns NYC Subway Riders of Potential Risk After Daniel Penny Verdict

Following Daniel Penny’s not guilty verdict, Representative Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (D-NY) issued a pointed critique of what that could mean for public safety in New York City subways. Penny, a former Marine, was acquitted on Friday in the high-profile case stemming from the death of Jordan Neely, a homeless man who died in May after a controversial altercation with Penny on the subway.

Speaking to reporters on Monday, Ocasio-Cortez expressed apprehension about Penny’s lack of remorse, calling it a troubling signal for the safety of subway riders. “If we do not want violence on the subways, and the point of our justice system is a level of accountability to prevent a person who does not have remorse about taking another person’s life, then we have failed,” she said.

Neely, who was unarmed, died after being placed in a chokehold by Penny during an incident that sparked nationwide debates about mental health, homelessness, and self-defense. Penny maintained he acted to protect other passengers, claiming Neely was acting aggressively.

Ocasio-Cortez highlighted what she perceives as the dangers posed by the verdict, stating, “Even people who have engaged in manslaughter or have taken a life accidentally express remorse. The fact that a person has expressed no remorse indicates a risk that it may happen again.”

She argued that Penny’s acquittal undermines the deterrent function of the justice system, allowing those who engage in potentially deadly actions without contrition to escape accountability.

“If we do not want to unleash that level of violence,” she continued, “then we should exert a level of accountability to prevent it from happening.”

The verdict has sparked polarized reactions across the political spectrum. Supporters of Penny view him as a Good Samaritan who acted in a difficult situation, while critics, like Ocasio-Cortez, see the outcome as emblematic of broader systemic injustices and a failure to prioritize the safety of vulnerable populations.

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by Anonymousreply 238December 24, 2024 8:15 PM

Totally agree with her.

The Penny verdict means that anyone can get away with MURDER and senselessly KILLING another person.

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by Anonymousreply 1December 12, 2024 9:32 AM

she's got things so twisted

by Anonymousreply 2December 12, 2024 10:21 AM

He'll kill her next.

by Anonymousreply 3December 12, 2024 10:30 AM

It's Nazi shit to devalue people's lives like this.

by Anonymousreply 4December 12, 2024 10:32 AM

Yeah R3, that fucking ramen-headed freak was out of control. PTSD or roids?

by Anonymousreply 5December 13, 2024 4:43 AM

If the homeless guy had killed one or two people on that subway car she wouldn't even acknowledge it. But the fact that a jury of his peers found him not guilty is the problem.

by Anonymousreply 6December 13, 2024 5:49 AM

People like her are why we lost in November

by Anonymousreply 7December 13, 2024 5:52 AM

No, they aren't. She's doing just fine, but she did have a lot of split ticket voters .

by Anonymousreply 8December 13, 2024 5:55 AM

She makes a good point.

by Anonymousreply 9December 13, 2024 6:08 AM

I remember being so thrilled when she won that first race, before she revealed herself to be a narcissistic nutjob

by Anonymousreply 10December 13, 2024 6:27 AM

R1 It does not. This is why people hate liberals. As if Daniel low rent Penny happens everyday. It’s so patronizing. Every New Yorker knows how to ride the fucking train. More people are harassed by the mentally ill or criminals than Daniel mafuckin Penny. If anything, it should be a wake up for vagrants to act rite or get their mental health in order. Even thiughit’s intellectually bankrupt argument this is exactly why people hate liberals. The fucking politicians won’t talk about shit that’s on the subway everyday. Working people being harassed. But then a tragedy occurs and they patronize. So regular people are like “why the fuck are you speaking on this matter now” when all Daniel Penny do is defend the subway car.

by Anonymousreply 11December 13, 2024 6:39 AM

R6 right that’s what so annoying. Two weeks ago 3 people lost their lives in a single day by a maniac with a knife. Crickets.

And not that you shouldn’t speak on injustice but don’t create fake crises. It’s fucking patronizing. A jury found him not guilty. Maybe next time his family can ensure that someone with a rap sheet as long Trump’s felony count is not running amok going on to subways cars getting in people’s faces, screaming that he will kill them.

by Anonymousreply 12December 13, 2024 6:45 AM

When I saw this at the Republican National Convention I knew the Dems would be in trouble. I just deluded myself because Kamala is so lovely. It might also explain why a third of her district voted Trump. Please watch.

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by Anonymousreply 13December 13, 2024 6:49 AM

And people wonder why Trump won.

by Anonymousreply 14December 13, 2024 6:53 AM

The subways and streets got more dangerous when Penny was charged. It used to be that everyone knew not to make eye contact or otherwise escalate or incite the crazies, but there was a chance that in unlikely event that a crazy got physical with you, a bystander might help you out. Not now. A guy could take his dick out of his pants and rub it on a 15 year-old girl’s face on the subway and I’m just going to avert my eyes. Because what if I shove him away and he has a heart attack and I get charged with murder?

by Anonymousreply 15December 13, 2024 6:58 AM

R15 lol. 😂. Exactly. It’s just ridiculous.

by Anonymousreply 16December 13, 2024 7:01 AM

He didn’t shove the guy. He choked the guy long enough to kill him! What the fuck is wrong with you people?

by Anonymousreply 17December 13, 2024 7:21 AM

This is the most arse-about-face thing I've seen all year

by Anonymousreply 18December 13, 2024 7:30 AM

I haven’t followed it closely enough to have an opinion about whether Penny did anything wrong, R17. Maybe he was too aggressive. But he did stick around and talk to the police, right? I don’t think his intentions were evil but that doesn’t automatically make him blameless. That’s not what I’m talking about, though.

I’m just saying that we are less safe now and the implied social contract is different. Aggressively prosecuting him made the streets and subways of NYC less safe. People look away faster now. And AOC is double talking. This is a big misstep on her part. She rode the subways as a young, attractive woman. She relied on that social contract to keep herself safe and she knows it. Well, now it’s gone. But she doesn’t need it anymore, does she?

by Anonymousreply 19December 13, 2024 7:36 AM

She’s right- but like every other aging Latina, she’s gaining weight in all the wrong places.

by Anonymousreply 20December 13, 2024 7:40 AM

Her focus on his lack of remorse bothers me as well. So he’s not play-acting for her and the media and that’s a problem? If his lack of remorse took the form of him going around saying, “I’m glad that guy’s dead!” then, sure, that’s a problem. But it sounds like she’s just annoyed that he’s not performing for her.

This has really shifted my opinion of her.

by Anonymousreply 21December 13, 2024 7:42 AM

R19, I agree. AOC has what I call “Mary J Blige” Syndrome.

How can you sing soulfully to other people about heartache, loss, betrayal and grief once you’re rich??

by Anonymousreply 22December 13, 2024 7:42 AM

Publicly he cannot be too remorseful because of the civil trial thats coming. He knows it, his lawyers know it, and AOC knows it too.

by Anonymousreply 23December 13, 2024 8:04 AM

r22 lol😂

by Anonymousreply 24December 13, 2024 8:05 AM

I just learned today Neely was conscious when arrested. Thats even more of a mitigating factor. I can't believe I'm just now learning this. Which means his sickle cell along with drug abuse contributed to a confrontation THAT HE STARTED.

by Anonymousreply 25December 13, 2024 8:15 AM

Yep, there it is, folks:, gotta have that blame and judgement for all ye Christians to see. This man is excused from humanity because of his druggy and diseased ways. He's going to hell, anyway.

Sound familiar to any of you here were around during the AIDS crisis? Can you see how insidious this is?

by Anonymousreply 26December 13, 2024 9:15 AM

Fuck her. I hope some crazed druggie slices her.

by Anonymousreply 27December 13, 2024 9:25 AM

She’s an incredibly stupid politician who lives in a bubble. She should have just said “then jury has spoken, and we have to accept the verdict, even if I personally don’t agree with it.” Not some bullshit about “all subway riders are at risk now from Daniel Penny.” That’s so flawed it defies commons sense.

by Anonymousreply 28December 13, 2024 9:27 AM

[quote] People like her are why we lost in November

[quote] —Bodega-cat

People like YOU are why Trump won.

I have no doubt you voted for him.

Enjoy, ASSHOLE.

by Anonymousreply 29December 13, 2024 9:27 AM

Perhaps a coffee enema will help with y'all's grouchy? Sorry Mommy didn't hug you queens enough, keyboard warriors!

by Anonymousreply 30December 13, 2024 9:28 AM

Cute how r28 knows what her goals are, given she was overwhelmingly elected despite many split ticket votes in her district. I think I'll listen to the experts rather than some rando with a bunch of conjecture bullshit.

by Anonymousreply 31December 13, 2024 9:30 AM

Another accusation that reads as a confession.

Bodega has been a poster here forever.

by Anonymousreply 32December 13, 2024 10:55 AM

I predate her, so wag your finger elsewhere.

by Anonymousreply 33December 13, 2024 10:59 AM

[quote]She's doing just fine, but she did have a lot of split ticket voters .

A lot of voters of both Parties in all States split their tickets. She isn’t special.

by Anonymousreply 34December 13, 2024 11:00 AM

Maybe not, but your capitalisation skills need some work. It makes for more sturdy straw man arguments.

by Anonymousreply 35December 13, 2024 11:02 AM

Fuck this bitch. For every "victim" of Penny there are 3 people who've been killed, stabbed, thrown down subway tracks by loons and crackheads who should have been getting help somewhere.

This is where this bitch loses me. If she was a true leftie progressive she'd be ragging on the deplorable state of mental health care in US cities.

by Anonymousreply 36December 13, 2024 12:16 PM

Cut the crap. There's humane ways to police people with issues. It's done all over the world. You're distracting from where the true rot is with your intellectual laziness.

by Anonymousreply 37December 13, 2024 12:21 PM

She’s awful. New York is stupid to keep electing this idiot who has passed no legislation, worked to keep Amazon jobs out of her district, and whose only concerns are getting likes and camera time.

by Anonymousreply 38December 13, 2024 12:23 PM

Nice little ad hominem sandwich you posted there. Perhaps she worked to keep Amazon jobs out of her district because her district is wise to Amazon. They didn't vote her out for it. Do you like the taste of Bezos's asshole?

by Anonymousreply 39December 13, 2024 12:27 PM

And some people have the nerve to say she'll be President someday.

by Anonymousreply 40December 13, 2024 1:21 PM

And?

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by Anonymousreply 41December 13, 2024 1:25 PM

She's right

by Anonymousreply 42December 13, 2024 1:33 PM

Does he perm his hair?

by Anonymousreply 43December 13, 2024 1:43 PM

R26 That’s not the argument I am making at all. And you’d have to be a histrionic zealot to conclude that is what I said at r25. Keep excusing facts when they are convenient. I am liberal but I will always be real about shit.

by Anonymousreply 44December 13, 2024 1:55 PM

No, you're not "real about shit". You're just using copouts and don't want to own your own cruelty.

by Anonymousreply 45December 13, 2024 1:58 PM

R36 Right. That’s what I don’t get. Why won’t liberals just be real. As if there is a pandemic of Daniel Pennys killing troubled black men. It’s so fucking irritating. And as a black man, it is patronizing as fuck. Be real for once and stop using tragedies to manufacture fake crises. It’s a tragedy that Keely’s family couldn’t get him off the streets and into the safety of their homes so that he could not threaten to murder innocent citizens and punch old people in the face which can very likely kill them with one punch.

by Anonymousreply 46December 13, 2024 1:59 PM

Here you go again with this "be real" shit, followed by a bunch of ad hominems. Billionaires love people like you who blame his family, who aren't qualified health professionals. Do you see how contorted your arguments are? Just say the quiet part out loud: You don't think people like him are worth the effort required.

by Anonymousreply 47December 13, 2024 2:02 PM

And its also a miscarriage of informative justice for it to not to be widely known that Keely was conscious upon arrest. A 2024 NYC judge must be racist right? That’s why they found him not guilty. It is all racism. Keely was knocking out old people and screaming in people faces that he would kill them because of racism.

by Anonymousreply 48December 13, 2024 2:02 PM

Aaaaand there's the wedge issue. Keep running running that billionaire playbook.

by Anonymousreply 49December 13, 2024 2:04 PM

He should get an award for his actions. He protected the people on that train from harm.

He saved NY taxpayers $$$$$! The individual was violently insane and non-compliant with medication. He would have been incarcerated multiple times in the future released and allowed to return to the streets assaulting others. Individuals like this need to be contained and removed from society .

It's interesting his family is coming out of the woodwork now claiming injustice smelling a chance to make money with BLM. Where were they when he first started having issues? What actions did they take on his behalf to get help?

Now waiting on tear filled news conference featuring AOC and Al Sharpton in the background with some extended family member lamenting " he never hurt no body he was a good person !"

by Anonymousreply 50December 13, 2024 2:06 PM

Look at you flying that racist kite for all of us to ride. You know what you're doing.

by Anonymousreply 51December 13, 2024 2:08 PM

R47 Absolutely not true. I don’t give a fuck what billionaires like. Because I am highly intelligent and a critical thinker. I didn’t say his family were mental health professionals. But the general public sure ain’t. The general public ain’t fucking social workers. The general public cannot and SHOULD NOT have to decipher if this man is really “bout what he say he bout”. When he is screaming in their faces that he will kill them. That’s what a fucking patronizing fake liberal doesn’t get. Sometimes a family— the power of love, compassion, and familiarity can get someone who is mentally ill off the streets. And I know enough regular black people so I am a be presumptive cunt. I know how this shit plays out because I’ve seen it time and time again. This man would not be homeless if the family cared and put in the effort like the mafuckin effort they put to protest every day outside Penny’s trial because they know that life altering bank is about to happen. Fuck outta here. Who you think you talking 2.

by Anonymousreply 52December 13, 2024 2:09 PM

She is indeed dumb by commenting on this, clearly a polarizing subject even among liberals (you only have to read this thread). It’s not like it is a vital subject that required comment. That she doesn’t realize this should be a clue when thinkng of her as a star of the party.

by Anonymousreply 53December 13, 2024 2:10 PM

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA. I love that everyone gets to read this. You have no background or authority to make the claims you're making. It's anecdotal bullshit.

by Anonymousreply 54December 13, 2024 2:11 PM

And look at that rapid-fire account switching you're doing there! You can't shift your tone enough to get away with it.

by Anonymousreply 55December 13, 2024 2:12 PM

But the next time a Keely murders someone we just got accept the tragedy. The family just has to accept the shit. Aww man. It’s unfortunate a mental health professional couldn’t help him. Man, if only a mental health professional could have convinced a judge to keep Keely off the streets. Liberals get emotional which I hate because thats that shit republicans do. You cannot let the legacy of the slavery make you feel some type of way about this. Because we all know that’s why a bunch of Keelys are roaming our major cities. This man was conscious upon his arrest. Of course morally Penny should have eventually stopped. But we don’t know what was going in that man’s head and if he snapped during the process and was unable to see the consequences of his actions. Fake liberals are mad because Keely woke up that morning and met someone as crazy as him.

by Anonymousreply 56December 13, 2024 2:17 PM

Liberals can keep winging the same old song and dance. There is a mafuckin reason why urban black and Latinos are voting Republican in the upper 20 percentile for the first time ever. But they know everything. Everybody else is crazy. Everybody else is just crazy and not compassionate.

by Anonymousreply 57December 13, 2024 2:20 PM

Singing*

by Anonymousreply 58December 13, 2024 2:20 PM

Cheap sentiment, Teacake.

by Anonymousreply 59December 13, 2024 2:21 PM

And I’m not r50 btw.

by Anonymousreply 60December 13, 2024 2:21 PM

Sure, Jan. Your shit arguments and being out of your depth are exposed for all to see. I don't give a flying fuck about you.

by Anonymousreply 61December 13, 2024 2:24 PM

R61 very well carry on. I generally care about people and am overly compassionate.

by Anonymousreply 62December 13, 2024 2:26 PM

R53. Agreed. And I like her and think she has certain of charisma independent of policy.

by Anonymousreply 63December 13, 2024 2:28 PM

You're fucking unstable, attention-seeking, shit all over DL constantly, and everyone knows it.

by Anonymousreply 64December 13, 2024 2:29 PM

Agree with her. Penny murdered that man. The verdict gives carte blanche to murder anyone who "appears threatening" to others.

by Anonymousreply 65December 13, 2024 2:29 PM

Words have power. We all recognize that any other time.

by Anonymousreply 66December 13, 2024 2:31 PM

A lot of "squad" types really do seem to care more about criminal offenders versus actual victims.

by Anonymousreply 67December 13, 2024 2:31 PM

r7 Kamala is worse. She is WEF. Trump is fucking stupid.

by Anonymousreply 68December 13, 2024 2:31 PM

You're a total dumbass if you don't know this place is immune to stupid platitudes, R66.

by Anonymousreply 69December 13, 2024 2:32 PM

Listen you need to calm the fuck down. All your personal insults because you know you have lost this argument says a lot about your maturity level.

by Anonymousreply 70December 13, 2024 2:34 PM

Ah, now we're at tone policing. That tactic racists use.

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by Anonymousreply 71December 13, 2024 2:36 PM

All of you making excuses for this violently mentally ill drug addict who terrorized people should be stuck on a subway car with a nutcase screaming he's going to kill you. Daniel Penny did the right thing.

by Anonymousreply 72December 13, 2024 2:36 PM

He did the right thing in the wrong way. That's what a manslaughter charge is for.

by Anonymousreply 73December 13, 2024 2:38 PM

I don’t believe there is a full video of this encounter? Not sure. I haven’t even it. But people act like Penny just decided to put Keely in a chokehold after the first threat. No we. He was bodied for about 4-5 minutes like how it usually happens. Very aggressive and loudly threatening to kill people. That’s why Penny and 2 other standup black guys restrained him. Notice that no one the train has condemned Penny Not one. Because they saw what fuck happen with the very eyes. I believe one citizen said “you don’t want to catch a murder beef”. That shows empathy for the killer. It’s just sad all the way around. It’s also sad that this celebratory nature of a man dying. R71 Nice deflection. When all else fails deflect.

by Anonymousreply 74December 13, 2024 2:41 PM

And also you are hypocrite because you I know you posted this— You're fucking unstable, attention-seeking, shit all over DL constantly, and everyone knows it.

by Anonymousreply 75December 13, 2024 2:42 PM

It's a cultural sickness, r74. This wouldn't be this way in London. Get out more.

by Anonymousreply 76December 13, 2024 2:43 PM

It was a hard case. The jury did what anyone could have predicted they would—side with the guy who stepped up even if he went too far. Might race have influenced their judgment? It’s possible, but unlikely to have been a major factor. Anyone who rides the subways knows that mentally ill people can be threatening.

AOC should not be trying to exploit this as some kind of generalized problem. It’s not.

The argument that ordinary people are now in danger of being killed by vigilantes is just dumb.

by Anonymousreply 77December 13, 2024 2:43 PM

Proof positive that the world does it differently. Swedish cops subduing a guy in NYC.

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by Anonymousreply 78December 13, 2024 2:44 PM

R78 That’s awesome. But Americans shouldn’t have to be social workers. Why would you expect your typical low iq American to have diplomacy. 😂 Too funny.

by Anonymousreply 79December 13, 2024 2:45 PM

[quote] But Americans shouldn’t have to be social workers.

And that, Teawhatever, is the problem. Americans have been trained not to give a flying fuck about each other.

by Anonymousreply 80December 13, 2024 2:47 PM

Oh shit. Does this mean I can no longer safely terrorize and threaten people relentlessly while they're trapped underground in a metal box with me? Thank you, AOC, for calling the world's attention to this injustice! We should all be able to fuck around to our heart's content without ever running the slightest risk of finding out.

by Anonymousreply 81December 13, 2024 2:49 PM

Zoom out, asshole. No matter how much you want to evade it, society created that man being in the subway car causing problems as much as he did. And there are strong cultural forces that keep you thinking that way.

by Anonymousreply 82December 13, 2024 2:51 PM

It’s easier to be sympathetic to the mentally ill when you live in a country where they are unlikely to kill you and where almost everyone is from the same culture.

by Anonymousreply 83December 13, 2024 2:53 PM

R80 well with that we can agree on.

by Anonymousreply 84December 13, 2024 2:55 PM

What a fucking racist copout. Everyone being from the same culture is a myth, especially in places like London, Paris, and Berlin where this shit doesn't happen.

by Anonymousreply 85December 13, 2024 2:56 PM

R85 I don’t think they are being so literal but more so that the culture is more homogenous than here in the states, which is true. Generally England, Sweden, all of Western Europe— the culture in each country is more homogenous from actual demographics to philosophy than America.

by Anonymousreply 86December 13, 2024 2:58 PM

London is just as, if not more diverse than New York. Paris is pretty close.

by Anonymousreply 87December 13, 2024 3:00 PM

Paris is nowhere near as diverse as NYC. Parisian immigrants are largely Middle Eastern and African. I think NYC is more diverse than London but London is more international (if that makes any sense).

by Anonymousreply 88December 13, 2024 3:02 PM

Yes, but they don't have a certain demographic who fuck things up for everybody else. Sorry, it's true.

by Anonymousreply 89December 13, 2024 3:02 PM

R89 Fuck off. They don’t have the legacy of slavery. Stop trying to bash all black people.

by Anonymousreply 90December 13, 2024 3:04 PM

Sorry, you need to get out more. And why should that matter, anyway? Humans are humans.

by Anonymousreply 91December 13, 2024 3:04 PM

R88 I’ve always heard NYC is more diverse than London from other Brits.

by Anonymousreply 92December 13, 2024 3:04 PM

R92, yes, I'd say NYC is more diverse but London definitely has a more international feel. It feels like there are way more people in the upper classes (top 5%) from international backgrounds, probably due to tax benefits for foreigners.

by Anonymousreply 93December 13, 2024 3:09 PM

im a cuban liberal and I do not agree with AOC, the verdict was the right one. besudes, the guy was still alive when the cops came over, if he really wanted to kill he would have done so and in less than five minutes the guy would have been knocked out of consciousness.

I had a similar experience here in Miami at the metrorail. we took it on harlington heigh in allapatah to go to downtown and there was this crazy black man that was clearly aggressive and talking and quarreling with some imaginary person and the guy got into our wagon, which are quite small, when we saw that he entered we quickly got out of it, and a few other people after seeing what we did, decided to do the same. we had to wait until the next one. we are still wondering how the hell he was able to enter the station. if these people are so crazy and out of touch with really, how is it possible that they show a sense of direction? why is it that they do not try to get into the electric rails and walk them? very weird indeed.

by Anonymousreply 94December 13, 2024 3:09 PM

R1 Wow her pupils are dilated as fuck. Did she just come from an eye exam. Adderall? I know she isn’t messing with that cocoa leaf.

by Anonymousreply 95December 13, 2024 3:15 PM

NYC has more of the lower class immigrants, London is more cosmopolitan.

by Anonymousreply 96December 13, 2024 3:15 PM

Does AOC support involuntary commitment and forced medication of the profoundly mentally ill?

That’s what would’ve saved Jordan Neely.

by Anonymousreply 97December 13, 2024 3:15 PM

[quote] What a fucking racist copout. Everyone being from the same culture is a myth, especially in places like London, Paris, and Berlin where this shit doesn't happen.

I’m referring to the Swedish cops.

by Anonymousreply 98December 13, 2024 3:16 PM

I’m wondering whom she is speaking to. She’s a skilled politician if nothing else .

Does the average minority person on the subway side with the mentally ill person causing a disturbance because the guy who intervened was white? Do they really see this as primarily about race? Is their reaction really “It’s open season on me now?”

Or is she speaking to the activist class? The kind of people who came up with “Latinx” and who get upset at references to “pregnant women” because men can be pregnant too.

by Anonymousreply 99December 13, 2024 3:24 PM

[quote][R1] Wow her pupils are dilated as fuck. Did she just come from an eye exam. Adderall? I know she isn’t messing with that cocoa leaf.

She has baseline Crazy Eyes.

by Anonymousreply 100December 13, 2024 3:54 PM

It's hilarious to watch you all reconcile with an American left-wing politician who goes by her values. For a lot of you, this just doesn't fucking compute.

by Anonymousreply 101December 13, 2024 4:01 PM

AOC, John McWhorter would like a word.

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by Anonymousreply 102December 13, 2024 4:09 PM

Telling people of color that they need to fear being killed by white vigilantes is not my idea of going by values.

It’s just the flip side of JD Vance’s inviting Penny to the Army Navy game to make a hero out of him.

Each side exploiting a tragedy to score points

by Anonymousreply 103December 13, 2024 4:11 PM

Public transit all over America is insane. I live in Chicago and people from NYC are amazed at what happens on the El. The shit that happens here would not fly in Asia or Europe. This reminds me of something I saw on twitter. Someone posted a picture of two women smoking meth on the El and said "can these women please stop smoking meth so I can breathe?". Of course, this is twitter, so the majority of the responses were defending the right of the two women to smoke meth and they shamed the tweeter for bothering the women.

by Anonymousreply 104December 13, 2024 4:12 PM

[quote] I don’t believe there is a full video of this encounter?

Is there a video? You know everybody there was filming it.

by Anonymousreply 105December 13, 2024 4:14 PM

[quote] Telling people of color that they need to fear being killed by white vigilantes is not my idea of going by values.

Why does it matter they are "people of color"?

by Anonymousreply 106December 13, 2024 4:17 PM

[quote]The shit that happens here would not fly in Asia or Europe.

The US has a certain demographic who causes nearly all of the problems here which is not represented in the other two continents mentioned.

by Anonymousreply 107December 13, 2024 4:18 PM

[quote]The US has a certain demographic who causes nearly all of the problems here

Yes, it's called RACISTS

by Anonymousreply 108December 13, 2024 5:08 PM

^The fact that this racist garbage has 5 WWs already demonstrates some dedicated trolling.

by Anonymousreply 109December 13, 2024 5:08 PM

The real problem is that the US does not care for people with mental illness and leaves them to fend for themselves on the streets.

by Anonymousreply 110December 13, 2024 5:09 PM

[quote]People like her are why we lost in November

Whaddya mean "we", white boy?

by Anonymousreply 111December 13, 2024 5:13 PM

[quote]It's hilarious to watch you all reconcile with an American left-wing politician who goes by her values. For a lot of you, this just doesn't fucking compute.

She is my congressperson, and I'm proud to have her represent me. She's unapologetically progressive and smart as hell. And she knows and cares about her constituents.

by Anonymousreply 112December 13, 2024 5:22 PM

She's a virtue signaling twat who lives in a bubble and if her policies were enacted it would cause the collapse of civilization.

by Anonymousreply 113December 13, 2024 5:27 PM

You seem a bit rattled. If she's so terrible and ineffective, you shouldn't have anything to worry about, would you?

by Anonymousreply 114December 13, 2024 5:30 PM

[quote] “Even people who have engaged in manslaughter or have taken a life accidentally express remorse. The fact that a person has expressed no remorse indicates a risk that it may happen again.”

Is she saying Penny is going to strangle someone else on the subway?

That’s just stupid.

The verdict was not a sign of anything profoundly wrong with our system of justice. It was a tough case. Whichever way the jury went, a lot of people would disagree .

It’s just empty progressive rhetoric to paint this verdict as symptom of anything systematic.

by Anonymousreply 115December 13, 2024 5:37 PM

r114 she's a grandstanding joke.

by Anonymousreply 116December 13, 2024 5:41 PM

Also, her spiel suggests that the problem is that he didn’t say “sorry.”

It certainly would have been good for his soul to express some sorrow, but his failure to do so is not really a public policy problem.

by Anonymousreply 117December 13, 2024 5:47 PM

[quote]The Penny verdict means that anyone can get away with MURDER and senselessly KILLING another person.

Tell us, how do you feel about the MURDER of the UnitedHealth CEO, then I'll decide about the validity of your comment.

by Anonymousreply 118December 13, 2024 5:58 PM

He shouldn't have been murdered and it's nasty to cheer it on, but the CEO shouldn't have been a murderer either.

And you're a cunt, r118. You know what you're doing.

by Anonymousreply 119December 13, 2024 6:00 PM

We see you r118!

by Anonymousreply 120December 13, 2024 6:02 PM

I just got off a train. White panhandler and a black guy went nuts on him. Thought beggar would get murdered but when I escaped to the next car, he came in. Asking for money of course. This is really not a race thing.

by Anonymousreply 121December 13, 2024 6:03 PM

Her schpiel is fostering fear, victimization and resentment in people of color while crucifying "the White man" for every evil in the world. This alienating and tired message has much to do with why we lost the last elections.

by Anonymousreply 122December 13, 2024 6:06 PM

No, the NYC subways are not a race thing. I am black myself and have felt threatened a number of times on the subway by someone becoming aggressive. And at first it's not physical threats. I could just be someone loud and obnoxious. But everyone knows that can escalate in a matter of seconds to something physical and bloody. That is the scary thing, you just NEVER know what it doing to happen in those situations, so you have to protect yourself against the worst thing possible happening - that's how someone ends up dead. In the moment you can't tell how bad this is going to get, or if someone is unarmed, you just don't know.

It could have just as easily been that he had a box cutter in his pocket, concealed in his hand and just walked up to someone trying to ignore him and sliced their throat open, screaming "You're not gonna ignore me bitch!" You don't know. You never know. AOC is being a bitch for not understanding what the average citizen has to go through on a daily basis in NYC.

by Anonymousreply 123December 13, 2024 6:09 PM

AOC warning NYC Subway Riders!? They should have mandatory warning to us of AOC comments like they do for flashing lights or sounds of gunshots.

by Anonymousreply 124December 13, 2024 6:09 PM

This was a tragedy. It raises real issues about safety on the subways, the lack of treatment for the mentally ill, and the responsibility of a person making a citizen’s arrest for the protection of the person they are holding .

None of these issues is going to get people really fired up, but if you make it about race, suddenly both sides have a cause. Which side injected race into this? It was the left, asserting without evidence, that Neely would not have died if he had been white.

It was Progressives who exploited this incident. The right is embracing Penny because they admire his bravery in stepping up, but mostly because the left accused him of being racist without any evidence so the case is a symbol of progressive bullying.

I don’t know whether Penny would have been prosecuted if the two men had both been the same race. I suspect he would not.

by Anonymousreply 125December 13, 2024 6:16 PM

[quote] Fuck this bitch. For every "victim" of Penny there are 3 people who've been killed, stabbed, thrown down subway tracks by loons and crackheads who should have been getting help somewhere.

No one should be able to kill anyone without accountability. If there is a defense that absolves a killer of criminal conduct, so be it. It was necessary for Penny to be tried for homicide regardless of the outcome.

by Anonymousreply 126December 13, 2024 6:20 PM

I'm always reading that Neely was unarmed. But so was Penny. Give them both a lollipop. As if an unarmed man can't hurt, maim or kill.

So:

Penny had no weapon. So he used his bare hands to kill Neely.

BUT:

Neely had no weapon! Just his bare hands! So he was harmless and couldn't have hurt anyone!

Idiocy. The kind of idiocy NYers have come to expect from Alvin Bragg.

by Anonymousreply 127December 13, 2024 6:21 PM

[quote] Neely had no weapon! Just his bare hands! So he was harmless and couldn't have hurt anyone!

Neely was killed. Whether he was armed should have been a factor in determining if he presented an imminent threat to Penny or others. Are we to now assume that any person is capable of injuring or killing with their bare hands?

by Anonymousreply 128December 13, 2024 6:29 PM

Fuck this dumb bitch.

by Anonymousreply 129December 13, 2024 6:31 PM

She's beginning her presidential campaign

by Anonymousreply 130December 13, 2024 6:33 PM

R128, I can't tell whether you're being sarcastic or not, but yes, we are to assume that any full-grown person is capable of injuring or killing with their bare hands. That has always been the case. There have been countless cases where people have been killed with one punch, or one push.

by Anonymousreply 131December 13, 2024 6:38 PM

Hilarious to hear the "Escape from New York" hysteria coming from people who don't live here.

Are there crazy people on the trains? Of course.

Are people being slaughtered daily on the NY trains? No.

Take that Steven Seagal white supremacist vigilante shit elsewhere. Those of us who actually take this sad, fucked-up transit system every day know precisely what level of danger we're exposed to.

by Anonymousreply 132December 13, 2024 7:00 PM

Time to stop riding the subway teacake. Tick tock

by Anonymousreply 133December 13, 2024 7:11 PM

r131. Whether or not a person is armed is directly relevant to whether killing them can be justified as self-defense or defense of others.

It’s not directly relevant in this case since the prosecution did not allege that Penny intended to use deadly force. The case was based on recklessness. .

by Anonymousreply 134December 13, 2024 7:19 PM

Joyless Reid said the same thing so it must be a Democratic socialist propaganda talking point of the day.....multimillionaires who never take the subway, of course.

by Anonymousreply 135December 13, 2024 7:53 PM

[quote]Are people being slaughtered daily on the NY trains? No.

You might want to let AOC know this. She seems scared.

by Anonymousreply 136December 13, 2024 7:57 PM

What did Joy Reid say? That because Penny didn’t express remorse means he is more likely to kill again? Or that not punishing someone like Penny makes deadly violence on the subway more likely?

by Anonymousreply 137December 13, 2024 8:00 PM

Teacake needs to start riding the MTA armed with live grenades. That'll show them dirty mud people!

by Anonymousreply 138December 13, 2024 9:03 PM

[quote]Take that Steven Seagal white supremacist vigilante shit elsewhere. Those of us who actually take this sad, fucked-up transit system every day know precisely what level of danger we're exposed to.

Tell that to two female friends of mine, who were almost pushed off the platform. Or three other friends of mine who were accosted on the train and almost physically assaulted. It's gotten much worse than it was in the decades since the 90s.

by Anonymousreply 139December 13, 2024 9:08 PM

[quote]Also, her spiel suggests that the problem is that he didn’t say “sorry.”

The people who should be apologizing are public officials like her and Alvin Bragg who are responsible for the crazed lunatics like Neely running wild through the streets and the subways.

by Anonymousreply 140December 13, 2024 9:34 PM

It's the subways in NY and the buses in LA. Tired of crazy homeless people getting on the bus without any clothes on, getting pissed at the driver and taking a dump or a piss in front of everyone, sometimes even hurling their feces across the bus. It's disgusting and a health hazard, and it's inconceivable that the authorities are not doiing something to stop it. That's why passengers end up taking the law in their own hands, because it's lawlessness everywhere. To makes matters even worse, LA Metro has a rule that you don't have to have money for the fare to ride. While most people do, the crazy homeless who know the rules get on and do their thing without any restraints. I feel so sorry for the poor drivers who have to deal with this day in and day out.

by Anonymousreply 141December 13, 2024 11:13 PM

"I feel so sorry for the poor drivers who have to deal with this day in and day out."

Here in Philly, SEPTA, the local transit system, can't operate the bus fleet properly because there is a critical shortage of drivers. Why? Because drivers are tired of putting up with a bunch of ignorant assholes day in and day out, not to mention the threat of being killed, almost on a daily basis. And this is a decent job with good pay and benefits, including retirement.

At least on the BSL and the El, the engineer is in an enclosed compartment, which I suppose can be locked. Bus drivers aren't quite that lucky and have to deal with whatever shit is tossed their way.

by Anonymousreply 142December 13, 2024 11:21 PM

[quote] Are people being slaughtered daily on the NY trains? No.

I am not saying they are being attacked - but I remember those Safety posters on the subway giving statistics that said. 348 people were struck by subways last year 176 of them were killed. And I’d be sitting on my way to work thinking damn, someone’s getting hit if not killed almost every single day down here. And that just by the train itself, not someone else.

Someone IS getting attacked on a NYC subway every single day. Everyday. At least one person. Someone is getting killed

by Anonymousreply 143December 13, 2024 11:32 PM

[quote]Someone IS getting attacked on a NYC subway every single day. Everyday. At least one person. Someone is getting killed

So killing random homeless people for yelling at people is essential to preventing deaths from subway surfing?

Okay.

by Anonymousreply 144December 13, 2024 11:34 PM

Nobody seems to be killing "random homeless people". Random hardly applies to Jordan Neely.

by Anonymousreply 145December 13, 2024 11:38 PM

Here's a recent story about a guy who actually did go around shooting, sometimes killing, random homeless people in NYC and DC. Somehow it didn't really garner much attention from the national talking heads and professional hand-wringers. Wonder why?

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by Anonymousreply 146December 14, 2024 12:13 AM

AOC’s eyes look more bugged out than Penny’s eyes.

by Anonymousreply 147December 14, 2024 12:15 AM

In fact, dozens of homeless people are murdered every year. It's really quite appalling, and horrific. Yet it's not national news. It's not wept about by Sharpton. It's not clucked about by The View. It's barely noticed. Only this case -- which was not random according to others on the train -- seemed to rouse the activists to outrage. Interesting.

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by Anonymousreply 148December 14, 2024 12:19 AM

Didn't read the whole woeful thread but fuck AOC. Daniel should get a medal. I live in in NYC and have been on subway cars when this shit happens. You can't describe to someone who wasn't there the feeling you get. You're trapped underground with some psycho that wants to injure everyone around them. They are loud and ranting, they stink and stare you down and you have nowhere to run. It's probably happening right now while I'm home safe and secure. Thank you Daniel. I once saw a you tube video of a similar situation, a psycho was threatening people on the subway ranting and raving. Some guy walked up behind him and pulled his filthy shit stained pants down. Wow did that diffuse the situation. I'll always keep that in mind and use it if I have to.

by Anonymousreply 149December 14, 2024 1:56 AM

Why isn't this bitch worried about the drones?

by Anonymousreply 150December 14, 2024 2:01 AM

[quote]They should [bold]provide[/bold]mandatory warning[bold]s/[/bold] of AOC[bold]'s[/bold] comments like they [bold]provide[/bold] for flashing lights or sounds of gunshots.

Some notes for your trollfarm supervisor to go over with you. If you're going to pretend to post in English at least try to get the basics of grammar and spelling right.

Спасибо.

by Anonymousreply 151December 14, 2024 3:50 AM

AOC is cute but she kind of looks like a Muppet.

by Anonymousreply 152December 15, 2024 12:28 PM

She’s right. They just burned a woman to death on the subway. AOC called it.

by Anonymousreply 153December 22, 2024 11:22 PM

R153 And that's why we need more Daniel Penny's on the subway.

by Anonymousreply 154December 22, 2024 11:31 PM

^ (before I get an "Oh dear", please ignore the apostrophe)

by Anonymousreply 155December 22, 2024 11:33 PM

All this Penny deserves a medal. NO. For what? Beating up a mentally ill crackhead junkie who then died. Have seats, no pun intended.

Penney did what every standup guy, who didn’t want to mess up their work clothes, would do. He should have eased up but as a marine he was probably crazier than Neely.

by Anonymousreply 156December 22, 2024 11:43 PM

[quote] as a marine he was probably crazier than Neely.

Go fuck yourself R156

Neely: 42 arrests on charges including petty larceny, jumping subway turnstiles, theft, and three unprovoked assaults on women in the subway between 2019 and 2021.

by Anonymousreply 157December 23, 2024 12:49 AM

[quote] Tired of crazy homeless people getting on the bus without any clothes on, getting pissed at the driver and taking a dump or a piss in front of everyone, sometimes even hurling their feces across the bus

Have you considered moving to a better neighborhood?

by Anonymousreply 158December 23, 2024 2:29 AM

How about if the government gets the crazies off the streets? Public safety is one of the government's responsibilities.

by Anonymousreply 159December 23, 2024 2:57 AM

R158 = your average lefty.

by Anonymousreply 160December 23, 2024 2:58 AM

R160, and he wonders why the working class votes Republican now.

by Anonymousreply 161December 23, 2024 3:45 AM

R10- Scaring off Amazon and 25,000 jobs that paid $150,000 a year - that demonstrated among other things her incompetence.

by Anonymousreply 162December 23, 2024 3:53 AM

The photos at OP are very unpleasant between her Betty Boop eyes boring into my soul, and his harelip and two foot long neck. What an odd looking pair.

by Anonymousreply 163December 23, 2024 4:07 AM

NEELY O'HARA!!!!

by Anonymousreply 164December 23, 2024 6:28 AM

What did AOC say about the woman set on fire?

by Anonymousreply 165December 23, 2024 7:01 AM

There was great risk before and after the Daniel Penny verdict

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by Anonymousreply 166December 23, 2024 7:23 AM

R165, what do you think?

by Anonymousreply 167December 23, 2024 7:33 AM

AOC is a useless POS.

by Anonymousreply 168December 23, 2024 8:29 AM

R166, why is it always the most innocent looking ones that commit crimes like this???

by Anonymousreply 169December 23, 2024 1:12 PM

Her comments aged like milk and that is why she should have never made the asinine original statement. Democrats are going to learn to stop only caring about crime when tragedies happen.

by Anonymousreply 170December 23, 2024 1:15 PM

Democrats still losing when it comes to crime.

by Anonymousreply 171December 23, 2024 1:32 PM

R170, this really does seem like the early 90s when Bill Clinton had to moderate the Democratic Party in order for it to win. The progressives don't have the solutions.

by Anonymousreply 172December 23, 2024 1:50 PM

What most bothers me is that the bitch very likely hasn't stepped inside a subway in YEARS, and yet here she is, her supposed "with the working class" self making ACTUAL every day working people feel bad for wanting some protection from the nutcases. Elite corporate privilege liberals in a perfect nutshell.

by Anonymousreply 173December 23, 2024 1:50 PM

You think she’s wealthy? Of course she takes the subway. Almost everyone in NYC takes the subway.

by Anonymousreply 174December 23, 2024 2:10 PM

And if someone had attacked and choked out the perpetrator in r166, people would have cried saying he was unarmed, just a pack of matches.

by Anonymousreply 175December 23, 2024 2:24 PM

R175 Right. That is why it was foolish of AOC to suggest some draconian Death Wish type anarchy will happen because Penny was found not guilty. Even if she was dismayed with the verdict she could have just said that. But it’s offensive because even though crime is not rampant on the subway when it does happen it’s certainly not some post like Penny defending the cart because an unhinged person is threatening to kill people. Fucking idiot. These idiot fake liberals need to be voted out. It’s too much at stake and the average American brain is dumb as rocks. So they will always use crime as a wedge issue because these fucking brain dead liberals. Actually sometimes crime is a legitimate issue but these identity politics liberals need to go. It’s fucking too much at stake.

by Anonymousreply 176December 23, 2024 2:48 PM

R173 Tell us you’ve never been to New York without telling us you’ve never been to New York.

AOC has been on that damn subway since she has been congressman. Best and believe. Even if it is not her primary mode of trave. NYC subway is like the fucking highway for other cities. Everybody rides it except high profile people for security reasons. Even JFK Jr rode the train, dumb ass.

by Anonymousreply 177December 23, 2024 2:51 PM

Making this argument tribal (“these fucking brain dead liberals”) is not helpful.

by Anonymousreply 178December 23, 2024 2:52 PM

R178 It’s helpful when having a discussion online because it’s fucking true. The country is just going to grow more right because people who should know better play petty politics. And yes Im holding them to a higher standard because I actually respect them and consider them intelligent.

by Anonymousreply 179December 23, 2024 2:55 PM

R149 Yet, you don't even care how that person got in that position. Sad.

by Anonymousreply 180December 23, 2024 2:56 PM

“Brain-dead” is not a mark of respect for someone’s intelligence.

by Anonymousreply 181December 23, 2024 2:57 PM

The midget who supposedly set someome on fire is faked for media. Mayor Froggy wants to be Republican again. He was stealing money from poor people to give to migrants that they shuttled in. They are trying to counter AOC.

I actually agree with some of the things she says.

by Anonymousreply 182December 23, 2024 2:59 PM

R174 no, I do not think she takes the subway. Nope. And no, not everyone does.

by Anonymousreply 183December 23, 2024 3:08 PM

R177 I lived in NYC a total of 5 years, dumbfuck. I've gotten harassed and even chased in it at least 5 times.

by Anonymousreply 184December 23, 2024 3:10 PM

R174 and you know how I know she hasnt taken a subway ride in the last 5 years? Because of the stupidity that came out of her mouth. That absolutely gave it away.

by Anonymousreply 185December 23, 2024 3:15 PM

[quote] The midget who supposedly set someome on fire is faked for media

The progressive version of Qanon right here.

by Anonymousreply 186December 23, 2024 3:20 PM

R177 JFK, Jr, regardless of what you or Trump might think, has been dead for the last 25 years.

NYC and its subways have changed since then. Don’t call other people a dumb ass while being one.

by Anonymousreply 187December 23, 2024 3:22 PM

R184 ok I accept what you say. It’s bizarre that having lived in New York for 5 years that you would make such a statement. Venture capitalists from Long Island ride the LIRR into the city and take the subway. Money making professionals from all boroughs ride the subway. Elected officials ride the subway. You must live in a bubble.

by Anonymousreply 188December 23, 2024 3:25 PM

R187 The New York City subway has not changed so drastically since the 90s. And if you are r184 it kinda makes me think you are lying. I want to say it’s probably safer now but I haven’t lived in New York in ten years.

by Anonymousreply 189December 23, 2024 3:28 PM

I left NYC 2 years ago, lived there 5 years prior and yes it has changed. Hope this shuts you up and stops you from accusibg me of lying but it probably wont.

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by Anonymousreply 190December 23, 2024 3:36 PM

R190 Dude. That can be true. All of that shit you posted about an uptick in MTA crimes since the pandemic, which isn’t only limited to the subway. TRANSIT. With that being said, it’s irrelevant because the New York City fucking subway way has not changed so much since the 90s as a commodity and means of travel for New Yorkers. You are either extremely naive, which I doubt, or purposely being disingenuous. You stated that AOC has probably not rode the subway in years. That’s highly doubtful. Also please share with me the incidents where you were attacked and harassed. I believe you, tell us what happened.

by Anonymousreply 191December 23, 2024 3:43 PM

r186=Obama Everything Mayor Froggy does is faked for media. AOC not getting a seat is because Nancy Pelosi and her corrupt murderous friends did not want her there. Hate the truth? Don't be here.

by Anonymousreply 192December 23, 2024 3:44 PM

I’m not R184, something you could have easily determined.

Just as easily as you could (and should) have learned the subways are far less safe than they were prior to 1999. There’s been a 40% increase since 2019 alone.

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by Anonymousreply 193December 23, 2024 3:47 PM

It isn't because r185 takes the subway either.

She is right.

by Anonymousreply 194December 23, 2024 3:47 PM

“Uptick” is not a word used to describe major change.

by Anonymousreply 195December 23, 2024 3:49 PM

Mayor Froggy wants to be Republican again. He was stealing money from poor people to give to migrants that they shuttled in. They are trying to counter AOC.

Yes r182. He wants to GET RID OF MIGRANTS NOW. That's why he is doing these faked things. Same thing happened when there was a "shootout" inside a subway car to TAKE AWAY RIGHTS and put police in there. The "shootout" happened in a train station that has a POLICE PRECINCT RIGHT INSIDE.

OFC it's faked. No one will listen to them anymore.

by Anonymousreply 196December 23, 2024 3:50 PM

I'm a die hard Democrat but she needs to stfu. I don't live in NYC but if some crazy, drugged up asshole got near me with threats I'd defend myself too. Penny did not have a gun so he used his body to defend himself and others who spoke up for him BTW. I don't think he intentionally killed the guy.

I also have a feeling if Penny were a Black guy we'd hear crickets about the whole thing and if he'd been Black and the dead guy White, he'd be in prison or been shot by cops.

by Anonymousreply 197December 23, 2024 3:51 PM

R193 who you think you talking to. 40% increase since a global pandemic. Ok and? Crime isn't only violence but you knew that. It could be people jumping the turnstyle, pick pocketers, etc. Give me the crime stats from the 90s you fake cunt. We all know how crazy the subway was in the 80s and late 70s, those of us who weren’t even born yet. They got considerably safer in the late 80s, early 90s.

by Anonymousreply 198December 23, 2024 3:51 PM

[quote] There’s been a 40% increase since 2019 alone.

A 40% increase in what?

by Anonymousreply 199December 23, 2024 3:52 PM

R195 Exactly. Crime went up because a global pandemic caused a lot of youngsters to have free time on their hands as well as economic insecurity from people in the service industry being laid off. These fake ass motherfuckers think they can just post lies and no one will counter them.

by Anonymousreply 200December 23, 2024 3:54 PM

r182 He was stealing from the poor to give to the poor, but he gave all his "conferences" with a Fendi scarf on. He cared more about partying and bribery than he did about the people who put him there.

by Anonymousreply 201December 23, 2024 3:55 PM

Don’t worry, MAGAs. You will soon stop hearing about crime. Not because anything has changed. But because the people manipulating you now want you to think everything is perfect.

by Anonymousreply 202December 23, 2024 3:55 PM

American cities continue going to shit thanks to Soros and co funding these far Left wackos.

by Anonymousreply 203December 23, 2024 3:59 PM

R197 He would have never been indicted if he were black. I’m black and I said what I said. Neely was conscious when he was arrested.

by Anonymousreply 204December 23, 2024 3:59 PM

R197, you are correct.

by Anonymousreply 205December 23, 2024 4:12 PM

R188 I never said well to do people dont take the subway. I said AOC , a very public political figure, hasn't taken the subway, at the very least, in the last few years.

by Anonymousreply 206December 23, 2024 4:18 PM

R206 My friend saw her on the D train 2 years ago.

by Anonymousreply 207December 23, 2024 4:26 PM

I would bet AOC has probably even taken DC Metro when in Washington.

by Anonymousreply 208December 23, 2024 4:39 PM

She’s right of course. Once it’s ok to be a vigilante, and that fact is made public, who knows what creeps are going to “deputize” themselves? Maybe even really ugly visitors from Pittsburgh? Assuming they’re not too cowardly — not a safe assumption at all.

by Anonymousreply 209December 23, 2024 4:41 PM

Your chances of being killed by a vigilante are zero. Unless you start threatening to kill people. Even then it’s near zero. Stop pretending otherwise like AOC.

by Anonymousreply 210December 23, 2024 5:05 PM

[Quote] Almost everyone in NYC takes the subway

The MTA is increasing tolls at the bridges and tunnels and of course there's the congestion tax. Most people can't afford it and they're stuck taking the subway

by Anonymousreply 211December 23, 2024 5:12 PM

None of these people addressed the fake COVID. They forced you to inject garbage into yourselves and even with everyone dying they are trying to cover it all up.

by Anonymousreply 212December 23, 2024 5:14 PM

No r7 People like YOU who don't ask tough questions of candidates are why we lack as a country. And Elon hacked the systems which is why Democrats were only voted for at the BOTTOM of the ticket. They rigged it for Republicans because they wanted Dump to win. He even said "you won't have to vote anymore".

You guys are basic idiots. Enjoy your shots.

by Anonymousreply 213December 23, 2024 5:23 PM

[quote] Your chances of being killed by a vigilante are zero. Unless you start threatening to kill people. Even then it’s near zero. Stop pretending otherwise like AOC.

If a vigilante is using a gun, others are at risk.

by Anonymousreply 214December 23, 2024 5:31 PM

Have fun dying of the shots we told you take but faked taking em! Now, don't ask us no mo questions.

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by Anonymousreply 215December 23, 2024 5:37 PM

People act like the Guardian Angels weren’t a thing. The subways in the 70s and 80s were horrific. There maybe an uptick in crime - most of that is people getting their phones snatched - but today’s subways are nothing like they were.

And there is a hierarchy in the subway system too. It’s crazy how different one line can be from the next. Yes crime does happen all over but the 6 train from 77th to Astor place is a different experience than the ACE from 42nd to west 4th.

by Anonymousreply 216December 23, 2024 6:46 PM

R216 That is so true your 2nd paragraph lol. The 4 or 5 train Brooklyn, vastly different once it goes pass 14th street in Manhattan. Likewise once it hits the South Bronx.

by Anonymousreply 217December 23, 2024 6:49 PM

R210 👏

by Anonymousreply 218December 23, 2024 7:30 PM

[Quote] but today’s subways are nothing like they were.

glad to hear that

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by Anonymousreply 219December 23, 2024 10:26 PM

Define safe

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by Anonymousreply 220December 23, 2024 11:03 PM

Gideon Moncrieffe struggles with nightmares, depression and flashbacks from the May 10, 2023 incident, which occurred just weeks after Daniel Penny’s subway chokehold death of out-of-control straphanger Jordan Neely.

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by Anonymousreply 221December 23, 2024 11:09 PM

New York could do with a few more Daniel Penny's

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by Anonymousreply 222December 24, 2024 6:10 PM

And they wonder why Penny was found not guilty. The ivory tower liberal elites know nothing about the real world.

by Anonymousreply 223December 24, 2024 6:32 PM

Anyone remember that politician in Philly screaming to defund the police a few years ago who then was carjacked in broad daylight? lol

by Anonymousreply 224December 24, 2024 6:33 PM

[quote] And they wonder why Penny was found not guilty.

He was a black man! BLACK!!!

by Anonymousreply 225December 24, 2024 6:42 PM

r223 Its not like she grew up super rich. Regular, working/middle class background AOC comes from. Was it is-- these fucking progressives feel some type of that this could happen, and trust me their subconsciously offended that someone like Penny would come into the city and stand up to the sad tragic, cases we see everyday screaming in some bunz white person's face or a group of females. Thats why I like Jasmine Crockett, she never talks out of both sides of her mouth. She is smart with good ideas without being fringe.

by Anonymousreply 226December 24, 2024 7:08 PM

Jasmine is the one who said Daniel Penny "lynched" Neely. She's delusional.

by Anonymousreply 227December 24, 2024 7:19 PM

Jasmine is the one who said Daniel Penny "lynched" Neely. She's delusional.

by Anonymousreply 228December 24, 2024 7:19 PM

r228 Did shew really? Lawd.

by Anonymousreply 229December 24, 2024 7:28 PM

So disappointed, I'm fucking making typos. It's like people are forgetting, getting in someone's face and threatening to kill them is battery. Now if they walk away thats one thing. You cannot follow them to attack.

by Anonymousreply 230December 24, 2024 7:31 PM

R229, she sure did. It reminds me of Kamala (who I like and voted for) saying the same thing about Jussie.

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by Anonymousreply 231December 24, 2024 7:35 PM

I guess them damn eyelashes and Indian hair got her brain a lil fucked up too. Well she gets a pass, her heart is good.

by Anonymousreply 232December 24, 2024 7:42 PM

R226 she's an imbecile. I have alot of friends who like her but the baiting and the virtue signaling about how horrible it was that Penny was found innocent and was the one to be afraid of, just a few days before a woman was LIT ON FIRE and killed by a maniac in the subway tells me she is completely out of touch with the people she's supposed to represent and that she is destined for failure just like the rest of the democrats like her who lost a presidential election because they prefered to race bait and virtue signal and touch on the points the democratic elites love to hear about instead of bothering to hear what the actual everyday working people have to say.

by Anonymousreply 233December 24, 2024 7:55 PM

r233, Good points. With this latest victim, it appears they knew each other. NBC New York, reported that apparently they were riding the D train together.

by Anonymousreply 234December 24, 2024 7:59 PM

Not the d, the F train.

by Anonymousreply 235December 24, 2024 8:00 PM

Where are all the liberal elites and the newscasters who were so disheartened by what happened to Jesse Smollett when it comes to a person who actually was seriously injured randomly, and unprovoked. Smollett's story seemed suspicious from the start, and he apparently suffered no real injuries and yet the idiot liberal elites like Kamala Harris immediately leaped to the bait.

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by Anonymousreply 236December 24, 2024 8:07 PM

[quote]Smollett's story seemed suspicious from the start, and he apparently suffered no real injuries and yet the idiot liberal elites like Kamala Harris immediately leaped to the bait.

I never understood how an experienced prosecutor, a former DA, couldn’t tell that Jussie was lying. It made no sense. She was either lying about it to earn woke points, or she’s just really stupid.

by Anonymousreply 237December 24, 2024 8:10 PM

r237 well some years have passed so we should not forget the what was happening at the time in our culture. Remember, it was like the 2nd year into the trump presidency and there had been an increase in hate crimes against minorities. I'm like Dave Chapelle tho: My first reaction to Jussie was, "We'll he is obviously lying." 😂.

by Anonymousreply 238December 24, 2024 8:15 PM
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