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The Long, Strange Saga of Kamala Harris and Kimberly Guilfoyle

They were young lawyers, rising political stars and social acquaintances in the most exclusive quarters of San Francisco civic life.

But around 2000, Kamala Harris placed a phone call to Kimberly Guilfoyle that would echo, semi-surreally, in the sufficiently semi-surreal presidential campaign of 2024.

Ms. Harris was an assistant district attorney in the city. Ms. Guilfoyle was in discussions to join the office. Ms. Harris was calling, according to Ms. Guilfoyle, to suggest there was no job for her there.

“She pretended to be a member of the hiring committee, which didn’t exist,” Ms. Guilfoyle said in a recent phone interview.

Ms. Harris’s boss at the time hired Ms. Guilfoyle anyway, broadly corroborating her version of events years later as he recalled Ms. Harris’s fierce opposition to the move.

Ms. Harris has repeatedly denied snubbing Ms. Guilfoyle since the matter was first raised publicly more than 20 years ago, saying the phone call was merely about offering “help.”

And if that was something of an artful dodge, Ms. Harris’s friends say now, she was prescient to be skeptical of Ms. Guilfoyle from the beginning.

“If she ever did do that,” said Stanlee Gatti, a close friend of Ms. Harris’s and the best man at now-Gov. Gavin Newsom’s wedding to Ms. Guilfoyle in 2001, “she was smart.”

More than two decades later, Ms. Harris is the Democratic nominee for president and Ms. Guilfoyle is a ubiquitous surrogate for her opponent — a memorably zealous speaker at consecutive Republican National Conventions and a de facto Trump relative since her engagement several years ago to Donald Trump Jr.

Her present campaign task: persuading voters that she knows Ms. Harris better than most and imploring them to block her from power.

“I know her for 25 years, and let me tell you something,” Ms. Guilfoyle said recently at a Republican dinner in Florida. “Do whatever it takes to keep her out of the White House.”

The buzzy, hazy tale of Ms. Harris and Ms. Guilfoyle ascending in parallel in San Francisco demands two firm caveats:

Ms. Harris’s supporters say, credibly enough, that this is now something of a one-sided dialogue. The vice president does not seem to have uttered a public word about Ms. Guilfoyle in years.

And modern political history is overstuffed with reductive and often sexist accounts of rivalries between professional women — the province of passing gossip and unfortunate allusions to “cat fights” — as if men were wholly incapable of ambition, conflict and petty grievance.

Yet as Ms. Harris and Ms. Guilfoyle find themselves, a quarter-century later, as political adversaries on the grandest scale, their intersecting early-career arcs reveal something more enduring about these onetime counterparts, their divergent paths and the political parties in which they ultimately rose.

This was the period, in the perpetual tinderbox of San Francisco politics, when Ms. Harris and Ms. Guilfoyle formed the outlines of the public figures they would become.

“Superstar women,” said Willie Brown, the former San Francisco mayor, who once dated Ms. Harris. “They represented the city.”

Relentlessly foresighted and instinctively reserved, Ms. Harris was a respected prosecutor who cast an eye for years toward the office’s top job as she entrenched herself among the city’s elite — an outsider becoming an insider in real time.

And Ms. Guilfoyle, the indefatigable daughter of a Bay Area political fixture, mused about leading the same district attorney’s office one day, friends recalled. (Ms. Guilfoyle said she never seriously considered a run.)

“Everybody was gearing up,” said Phil Matier, who was a longtime political scribe for The San Francisco Chronicle. “We were waiting to see if there was going to be a matchup between Kimberly and Kamala.”

Around San Francisco, where Ms. Guilfoyle has lingered as a distant memory since her divorce from Mr. Newsom, those close to Ms. Harris are generally disinclined to revisit this chapter.

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“I might have blocked it out completely,” said Andrea Dew Steele, a Democratic fund-raiser who has known Ms. Harris for decades.

“Say no more!” Mark Leno, a former California legislator and a friend of Ms. Harris’s, pleaded with a laugh when Ms. Guilfoyle was invoked.

“I knew they didn’t get along,” Rebecca Prozan, a top aide on Ms. Harris’s 2003 run for district attorney, said, before moving on quickly. “Kimberly’s been so good at refocusing on other things to remember about her.”

If this era remains more vivid for Ms. Guilfoyle, she has largely spared audiences the details, speaking ominously but vaguely in public appearances about her history with Ms. Harris.

“I watched it firsthand — she left San Francisco worse off,” Ms. Guilfoyle said in Florida this month. “Her only goal is the new job, the next job, the next office.”

Privately, in the years after Ms. Harris became district attorney, Ms. Guilfoyle was sometimes more specific, allowing herself a rueful observation about her hometown, according to a former associate who heard it.

“I should have been D.A.,” Ms. Guilfoyle would say. “I should be D.A.”

by Anonymousreply 1December 12, 2024 2:39 AM

Well, this changes everything then.

by Anonymousreply 2December 12, 2024 2:44 AM

Kimmy has dirt on everyone. But she's messy..

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by Anonymousreply 3December 12, 2024 2:45 AM

[quote] Ms. Harris was an assistant district attorney in the city. Ms. Guilfoyle was in discussions to join the office. Ms. Harris was calling, according to Ms. Guilfoyle, to suggest there was no job for her there.

[quote] “She pretended to be a member of the hiring committee, which didn’t exist,” Ms. Guilfoyle said in a recent phone interview.

That's pretty damned SHADY.

[quote] Ms. Harris’s boss at the time hired Ms. Guilfoyle anyway, broadly corroborating her version of events years later as he recalled Ms. Harris’s fierce opposition to the move.

DOH!

by Anonymousreply 4December 12, 2024 2:47 AM

If Kim's legal skills are skills are as poor as her man choosing skills, she should never go near a courtroom again.

by Anonymousreply 5December 12, 2024 2:50 AM

I'd never heard of Kim until this thread. Just googled her. That's a rough looking 55.

by Anonymousreply 6December 12, 2024 2:53 AM

She's actually not a bad looking woman, R6. But she wears too much makeup, and she could use some lipo on the face, and some other minor work done around the face as well.

by Anonymousreply 7December 12, 2024 2:55 AM

Harris has good taste! Guilfoyle is a moron and a sexual harasser

by Anonymousreply 8December 12, 2024 2:56 AM

[quote] If Kim's legal skills are skills are as poor as her man choosing skills, she should never go near a courtroom again.

She won a very high profile dog mauling case.

[bold]Two Dogs, a Death, and the Trial That Made Kimberly Guilfoyle a Television Star[/bold]

Perched at the top of a hill in the wealthy San Francisco neighborhood of Pacific Heights, the ornate apartment complex at 2398 Pacific Avenue with views of the Golden Gate Bridge was an unlikely place for a violent death.

It was early 2001, and the country was in the final blush of a decade of worldwide peace and prosperity. In San Francisco, tech startups like Craigslist and Napster were newly ascendant, local media was still thriving and looking for juicy stories, and the tough-on-crime sensibilities of the 1990s still ruled the court system.

Marjorie Knoller, 45, and her husband Robert Noel, 59, lived in a one-bedroom apartment on the sixth floor of the 1920s-style apartment building. They were defense attorneys and self-described “left-wing liberals” who had spent much of their careers representing the homeless and dispossessed, those they saw as “getting screwed by the system.”

They had converted a closet into an office where they worked, among other things, to defend prison guards and inmates in lawsuits against the corrections department, and support incarcerated people at Pelican Bay State Prison in nearby Crescent City.

Their win record in court was fairly typical for general practice lawyers, but no case was too small or too strange. Noel once represented an officer claiming he was discriminated against by superiors for refusing to shave his handlebar mustache. The couple would later describe themselves as work-obsessed to the exclusion of much social connection, and they had more or less withdrawn from society.

Noel and Knoller had been keeping two dogs as a favor to a young inmate they had befriended at Pelican Bay, John Paul Schneider, whom they’d gotten to know through their legal work and would later formally adopt, a move they claimed was meant to grant him legal protections. The dogs were Presa Canarios, a mastiff breed from the Canary Islands known colloquially as Presas.

Originally bred for guarding livestock, and commonly used for dogfighting, Presas are characteristically devoted to their masters but can be “suspicious of strangers,” according to the American Kennel Club. Australia and New Zealand have banned their importation.

On January 26, Dianne Whipple, a lacrosse coach at St. Mary’s College who lived just down the hall from the lawyers, was returning to her apartment from an afternoon grocery run. Noel was away on a work trip that day, and Knoller was also returning home after taking both dogs out.

When the animals took an unfavorable interest in Whipple, Knoller lost control of the animals. The dogs, each weighing over a hundred pounds, attacked the 5-foot-3-inch Whipple as she was entering her apartment, tearing at her clothing, torso, and neck.

A neighbor called the police to report “two dogs rampaging out in the hall,” adding that she didn’t dare open the door for fear of being attacked. When the police arrived, they found the hallway covered in blood and shredded clothes, with Whipple conscious but unable to speak. She was rushed to San Francisco General Hospital, where she died from her injuries hours later.

There was an enormous public outcry over Whipple’s death. The 33-year-old was emblematic of the city and the moment — young, vivacious, progressive, and openly gay. At first, it wasn’t clear if any charges would be filed against Knoller and Noel; only about one in five fatal dog attacks result in any meaningful criminal charges. But the horror and spectacle of Whipple’s death, as well as growing dislike for the couple in the media, fueled the story and the case gathered momentum.

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by Anonymousreply 9December 12, 2024 3:02 AM

Kimmy got distracted, lost her looks and her mind along the way

by Anonymousreply 10December 12, 2024 3:05 AM

Before and after, R6.

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by Anonymousreply 11December 12, 2024 3:07 AM

So much more natural before she became a MAGAT.

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by Anonymousreply 12December 12, 2024 3:08 AM

What female gets sued for harassment in a lecherous cesspit like fox of all places

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by Anonymousreply 13December 12, 2024 3:08 AM

[quote] What female gets sued for harassment in a lecherous cesspit like fox of all places

She's just hungry for COCK!

I can sympathize.

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by Anonymousreply 14December 12, 2024 3:10 AM

The NYT is the saddest rag out here. They have fallen so low they don't even rise to the level of tabloid journalism.

by Anonymousreply 15December 12, 2024 3:34 AM

A day late and a dollar short too. This is really old news.

by Anonymousreply 16December 12, 2024 3:37 AM

[QUOTE] The NYT is the saddest rag out here. They have fallen so low they don't even rise to the level of tabloid journalism.

Feel free to switch to the Bezos paper then.

by Anonymousreply 17December 12, 2024 3:38 AM

I don’t know why Kamala didn’t show this shrewd cunty brand during the campaign. White American males are not going to vote for Joy. Too gay to them. That’s how basic they are. Blacks even the thugs can look past it because she fine. My god, I almost want her to run again in 28 to rebrand herself.

by Anonymousreply 18December 12, 2024 3:46 AM

It was sort of a Mariah on steroids "I don't know her" moment.

by Anonymousreply 19December 12, 2024 3:48 AM

WHO CARES, WALTER? WHO CARES?

R17: They both suck, you preening bitch.

by Anonymousreply 20December 12, 2024 3:56 AM

Speaks volumes about Gavin Newsom's judgement.

I understand that some marriages just don't work out - but to be SO completely off base ...

Newsom is a snake. Worthless governor who has spent his entire time in office running for president.

God help us in 2028.

by Anonymousreply 21December 12, 2024 5:50 AM

[quote] God help us in 2028.

If I were you, I'd start worrying about 2025.

by Anonymousreply 22December 12, 2024 9:01 AM

OP = Janet Jackson.

by Anonymousreply 23December 12, 2024 9:34 AM

[QUOTE] WHO CARES, WALTER? WHO CARES?

It's the early morning, use your indoor voice when using this site, bitch.

by Anonymousreply 24December 12, 2024 1:02 PM

[QUOTE] If I were you, I'd start worrying about 2025.

I don't have the bandwidth to worry about anything else. I'm already a ball of neuroses.

by Anonymousreply 25December 12, 2024 1:04 PM

Gavin Newsom is the common denominator for those ladies.

by Anonymousreply 26December 17, 2024 10:52 PM
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