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Metropolitan Museum of Art to tear down a section built in 1987 and rebuild

They cannot expand any further into Central Park, so they are now cannibalizing themselves to keep building. This seems to me to be a sign of poor long-term planning

The Lila Acheson Wallace Wing, which opened in 1987, will be replaced by the Oscar L. Tang and H.M. Agnes Hsu-Tang Wing,. I wonder how the Wallace family feels about that?

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by Anonymousreply 51December 12, 2024 2:41 PM

It's generally accepted that these naming rights age out in the large donor circles.

by Anonymousreply 1December 11, 2024 5:07 PM

It’s logical, and very smart. They have built up a large collection of modern and contemporary art with no place to properly display it. Now they will.

Your premise fails dramatically, as the entire history of the Met is based on expansion, replacement and/or re-use of space; this next stage is entirely consistent with that history.

by Anonymousreply 2December 11, 2024 5:07 PM

This is a big problem for art museums worldwide: far more art in the collection than any display space will allow for.

by Anonymousreply 3December 11, 2024 5:10 PM

You can't expect donations to flow if you're not spending the boodle. A fat bank account doesn't doesn't square.

by Anonymousreply 4December 11, 2024 5:11 PM

It may be logical to build a new wing, but it still a failure of design and foresight that one of the most recently-constructed parts of the museum needs to be torn down and rebuilt.

Media coverage is largely ignoring this—celebrating the new.

by Anonymousreply 5December 11, 2024 5:12 PM

It’s perfect, let’s break it

by Anonymousreply 6December 11, 2024 5:13 PM

I have to say, the Rembrandt paintings are displayed in gloom. Even he recommended his pictures be displayed in strong light.

by Anonymousreply 7December 11, 2024 5:15 PM

There is no family to make a complaint—she’s long dead, the husband is long-dead, and they were childless. No one will miss her name on that…it’s all over the place.

by Anonymousreply 8December 11, 2024 5:15 PM

It’s for collections that didn’t exist back then. It’s hardly the first the Met has ripped up something and started over. Get over it.

by Anonymousreply 9December 11, 2024 5:17 PM

Lincoln Center arranged for the Avery Fischer family to agree to the name change. They got a $15 million check..

by Anonymousreply 10December 11, 2024 5:19 PM

Bullshit. The Wing was built to house modern and contemporary art. They just fucked it up.

by Anonymousreply 11December 11, 2024 5:20 PM

Grouchy grouchy! More art on display is a GOOD thing.

by Anonymousreply 12December 11, 2024 5:23 PM

I’m not saying it’s a bad thing to display more art. I’m saying it’s pretty poor planning to have to tear down a relatively recent new wing in order to do it. Tremendous waste.

by Anonymousreply 13December 11, 2024 5:28 PM

What c nasty piece of work you are, r8.

by Anonymousreply 14December 11, 2024 5:30 PM

I detest cheap sentiment.

by Anonymousreply 15December 11, 2024 5:31 PM

And whst the hell am I? Chopped liver?

by Anonymousreply 16December 11, 2024 5:32 PM

There's always the DeWitt Wallace Decorative Arts museum Colonial Williamsburg. It's actually quite lovely.

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by Anonymousreply 17December 11, 2024 5:35 PM

The problem when they do things like this is it makes donors less likely to donate big sums, knowing that their wings can be taken down.

by Anonymousreply 18December 11, 2024 5:35 PM

Is there anyone who works in development at this level here who can speak to this? I feel like we're a bunch of queens who think we know *just* enough, but may not know how this all really works.

by Anonymousreply 19December 11, 2024 5:36 PM

Yes—that’s why they raised a half billion dollars.

Unless otherwise expressly stipulated, having your name on the building doesn’t mean it can’t go away later. Don’t be dumb.

by Anonymousreply 20December 11, 2024 5:38 PM

The name game is flawed, especially since some wealthy donors will be turned off by feathering the nest of "competitors" with their own art donations or cash.

by Anonymousreply 21December 11, 2024 5:42 PM

It took them a very long time to raise the money. This has been in the works for a decade.

by Anonymousreply 22December 11, 2024 5:42 PM

Original announcement

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by Anonymousreply 23December 11, 2024 5:43 PM

^ I wouldn't be caught dead in a jeans dress. Who is this parvenue?

by Anonymousreply 24December 11, 2024 5:46 PM

[quote] When the Wallace Wing was built at a cost of $26 million, it provided the Met with 40,000 square feet of galleries — more than the Whitney’s 25,400 square feet of exhibition space at the time, and the Guggenheim’s 38,500. Lila Acheson Wallace, a Reader’s Digest founder and major patron of the museum who died in 1984, donated $11 million to the project.

by Anonymousreply 25December 11, 2024 5:49 PM

Are these two rival branches of the Wing family in competition with each other?

by Anonymousreply 26December 11, 2024 6:08 PM

[quote]I’m not saying it’s a bad thing to display more art. I’m saying it’s pretty poor planning to have to tear down a relatively recent new wing in order to do it.

Their modern wing as it stands now is horrendous, so I'm delighted they are doing it over. Now seems as good a time as any to fix an '80s fuck up.

by Anonymousreply 27December 11, 2024 6:08 PM

I'm sure the architect of the 80's wing would have chimed in if this pissed them off, given they've been planning this for so long.

by Anonymousreply 28December 11, 2024 6:10 PM

R28: Here is a 2014 quote from the architect of the Wallace Wing. It seems he never liked it either.

[quote]The Wallace Wing’s original architect, Kevin Roche of Kevin Roche John Dinkeloo and Associates — who has designed the Met’s additions since 1967 — said the wing was always a problem. “It really never got built properly,” said Mr. Roche, 92, in an interview. “I was never very happy with what happened.”

[quote]“There wasn’t a clear program,” he added, “and it kind of just got put together in pieces.”

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by Anonymousreply 29December 11, 2024 6:16 PM

Thank you—a ten year old article which fully refutes OP’s lame arguments. Well done.

by Anonymousreply 30December 11, 2024 6:21 PM

Umm. I posted the article you are praising, and it does not refute my arguments at all. Obviously, the original wing was a disaster. My point is that the fact that they have to tear down a new wing and replace it at more that 20 times the cost a few decades later is a major fuck up which is being largely swept under the rug.

by Anonymousreply 31December 11, 2024 6:25 PM

It's a jobs program!

by Anonymousreply 32December 11, 2024 6:29 PM

Your point is boring the rest of us. Move on.

by Anonymousreply 33December 11, 2024 6:30 PM

You might be credible If you hadn’t posted 5 times in my thread.

by Anonymousreply 34December 11, 2024 6:33 PM

Excellent. I knew it was in the works but am glad that it has (more or less) an all clear. The architect Frida Escobdeo is a fine choice. What I know of her work has an elegance and an almost tactile or experiential sense that goes beyond the purely visual, I expect there will be lovely, refined spaces and also a strong sense of sequence of space, all with attention to purpose.-- all things important in such a program, particulalry for the Met which shoehorns so many collections and dedicated wings and styles of architecture into one mammoth puzzle box.

The 1987 addition was not a shining moment for the museum, neither architecturally nor programmatically. The spaces are more shopping mall than elegant, and everything deferred to the collection which might have been fine. It will not be missed. The Met has a series of constant battles: to display more art and objects; to control circulation in an intelligent way; and to delicately court a queue of prestige donors megadonors against the larger demands of the whole museum (naming rights and the diesire for perpetual remembrance.) Then there is the requirement not to compete too wildly with the earlier phases of architecture and to design a timid exterior not to (further) outrage the park enthusiasts who might be happier if the building were torn down (so relentlessly unhappy are they with having a tiny chunk 'stolen' from an edge in an 843-acre park in the middle of the city.

[quote]The problem when they do things like this is it makes donors less likely to donate big sums, knowing that their wings can be taken down.

No. The Met has the great fortune to have donors lined up to cajole, to strong-arm, to do all sorts to a short-term lease on perpetuity. At this point everyone accepts, as R1 wrote, that a gift or naming opportunity to the Met comes with ever shorter leases to personal branding rights. I had three friends and acquaintances who used to love to toy with the Met and umpteen other museums, but the Met especially, to see how much they could squeeze out of their offer of a donation of a collection and a big donation - not wing-size naming opportunities, but a corner of a wing, maybe a few rooms. They played the game for ages as many serious collectors used to do, but all gave on on the big prize, the Met, simply because the stakes were a leagure above theirs and the promise of perpuity, even at that level, was frankly dismissed. It's a huge act of vanity for a collector to snag his own wing, or library, or even aiming lower for a new museum. Before the stakes got so high it kept a decent chunk of museum staff busy courting potential donors. Eventually, any but the very biggest of the big fish donors had to scout for smaller opportunities to get any kind of assurance that the donation and naming-op would last more than a few years beyond the reading of their wills. The days of robber baron size and quality collections and engraved names carved in stone in Roman letters might last for generations beyond their death. The days of being able to exert great control over museums is gone. Even more gone is expecting that your gift and name recogniton will last more than a generation, if that.

by Anonymousreply 35December 11, 2024 6:34 PM

I spent my boodle on the Roxy dancefloor every Saturday night until they closed!

by Anonymousreply 36December 11, 2024 6:38 PM

My thread! Says Op

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by Anonymousreply 37December 11, 2024 6:46 PM

How the hell is that blocky piece of crap going to cost half a billion?

by Anonymousreply 38December 11, 2024 6:51 PM

It looks great. I can't wait. I love the Met.

by Anonymousreply 39December 11, 2024 6:53 PM

More pics

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by Anonymousreply 40December 11, 2024 7:06 PM

Anyone who has actually been to the Met knows that wing is ugly ass.

by Anonymousreply 41December 11, 2024 7:09 PM

A lot of the late Met’s 20th construction was a failure. The Michael Rockefeller Wing (1982_just in front of the Wallace Wing, has had extensive renovations. At least they didn’t have to tear it down.

[quote] [Curator]LaGamma described the previous design of the Rockefeller wing as “a big, gloomy, kind of modernist space” that resembled a Soho loft that had a “weird light grid” and “resembled a bit of a cave”. It was also purpose-built for a much smaller collection at only 3,000 works. The wing’s original interior design also had in-gallery storage, which meant “hundreds of ceramic vessels” being stored in cupboards taking up valuable space and not on display. “We now have only space devoted to prime exhibition, and that allows us to really, in some cases, exhibit more works, and in other cases, give more space to the works that we’re presenting,” LaGamma said during the one-hour press tour.

NY Times:

[quote]Joanne Pillsbury, the curator of the Arts of the Ancient Americas, said she was excited by the new sloped glass wall on the south facade, adjacent to Central Park (the previous glass wall did not protect the art from UV rays, so the museum had to keep the blinds down). “It’s an exciting opportunity for us because so many of the works in the collection of the Arts of the Ancient Americas were works that were meant to be seen in daylight,” she said. “And they really come alive in a new way in natural light.”

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by Anonymousreply 42December 11, 2024 7:21 PM

Aren't the Tangs the benefactors of the annex to the New York Historical, which began life as an entire LGBTQ museum, now whittled down to one fucking floor of the neighborhood-destructive debacle?

by Anonymousreply 43December 11, 2024 7:52 PM

OP please resubmit your post as Metropolitan Museum to tear out that BITCH of a wing and put an inverted ziggurat where an inverted ziggurat out to be

by Anonymousreply 44December 11, 2024 8:28 PM

lol R44

by Anonymousreply 45December 11, 2024 8:58 PM

Off topic but you really wonder why Paris hasn't done something about the Montparnasse Tower, even though it's privately owned and asbestos is a big issue. They could demolish a couple of levels every decade or so and eventually bring it down to half its size.

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by Anonymousreply 46December 11, 2024 9:04 PM

Trump coloring book wing coming.

by Anonymousreply 47December 11, 2024 9:40 PM

Best view in Paris, that Tour Montparnasse.

by Anonymousreply 48December 12, 2024 12:18 AM

[quote] Lila Acheson Wallace Wing

Did she remarry to an Asian?

by Anonymousreply 49December 12, 2024 12:41 AM

Can you just imagine 😱 the garbage they’re going to put in there?

by Anonymousreply 50December 12, 2024 2:39 PM

I hope it annoys the fuck out of you, r50.

by Anonymousreply 51December 12, 2024 2:41 PM
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