Has America become more conservative as it’s become more stupid or is it the other way around?

It's become less into organized religion, actually, but don't let that fool you into thinking it's taken a more rational path. A lot of the moderate and left-leaning former churchgoers have turned to crystals, spells, astrology, and other things that have as much evidence as traditional religion, but they don't have rules one has to adhere to and don't require going out to church, so they fit the modern lifestyle well.

And the traditional religious types now have gone off the deep end due to social media radicalization and have become more vocal and crazy with QAnon etc. So that's probably what you're noticing there.

It hasn’t. You’re just watching too much social media.

The religion situation is unclear and said to be declining overall — but intensifying in some segments.

Politically it’s been a fairly evenly matched push and pull between the two parties since at least 50 years, and (imho) this current moment fits the pattern much more than it breaks it.

To me the larger correlation is (a) the massive hyperconcentration of wealth at the very top and (b) the dumbing down of the average American mind.

religious followers are down. but ill-and-misinformed voters are up

FB, YouTube and Twitter have poisoned more minds than the bible.

I still attend an Episcopalian church. They’re apolitical. We have all sorts in the congregation and many with graduate degrees.

I grew up working class and Baptist and it was rough. Even under Bush they were reactionary. You’ll have doctors and lawyers there too, but they tended to be very close-minded.

There was a thread up earlier this year in which a Pastor was asked where he was getting “his liberal talking points.” He was using quoting from The Sermon on the Mount. 🤦🏻‍♂️

I think that says it all. They think God hates the same people and things they do.

Please watch "Idiocracy."

The country is definitely becoming more culturally conservative and fiscally liberal.

I've always been suspicious of evangelism but the conclusion I've reached since it's insurgency in recent years has led me to believe that it's far more closely aligned with the qualities of Satanism they so fear. I'm not religious and don't believe in Satan or hell but they embody all that shit.

America isn’t that conservative. It’s far less so than it was even ten years ago. Twenty years ago, the idea of legalized same-sex marriage seemed like something impossible, but today it’s boring everyday life.

[quote]It hasn’t. You’re just watching too much social media.

Social media has been right about the current political situation.

Legacy media was very wrong and is going extinct.

Democrats don't seem to realize that they have indefinitely lost the working class due to their elitism.

And legacy media, which was their propaganda machine, is going extinct.

People all over the world do not want a bunch of uncivilized immigrants turning their towns into shitholes. That's why the democrats lost. They were seen by most people to be more concerned about immigrants than the citizens

Definitely more stupid. Far left and far right equally.

> Social media has been right about the current political situation.

Conservatives have to make up their minds. Is Big Tech social media censoring them and indoctrinating people, or is it totally right and relevant?

>they have indefinitely lost the working class

No we haven’t. The working class got pissed off by far left excesses this round, just as it got pissed off by Republican incompetence in 2020. Dems will make hay in 2026 midterms and assuming we don’t let the far left run the show again, we should win in 2028.

Republicans know almost nothing about the working class, and have placed elites like Elon Musk, Vivek Ramadwamy, and the PayPal mafia at the center of their policy team. The idea that Elon Musk understands working people is hilarious — I hope the Republicans run with that.

It's become more infantile. They want cartoons, games, pajama clothes and junk phood. And a Big Daddy to take care of everything for them.

Mainstream media was captured by the far left and colleges have radicalized swaths of people. Categorizing people based on the coloring their skin and blaming white people for things that aren’t true. When BLM riot cities, people notice that. When illegals take over parks and resources, people notice that, when government and media lie over and over again, people notice that.

The left isn’t the party of the people anymore. So there is only one other way to go and that’s right.

Conservative and stupid are not mutually exclusive.

In fact...

People in Kansas and Missouri voted in favor of abortion access.

OP maybe listen to Mike Duncan's season 3 of his podcast Revolution; the French Revolution.

We're moving into the Thermidorian Reaction

I think the ivory tower crap got extrapolated and people cringed. I mean I have an urban upbringing with blue collar liberal parents. We didn’t use the word “Latinx” and we didn’t let stupid hillbillies tell us what to do.

This all could have been avoided if stupid Joe Biden hadn't installed such a useless piece of shit as Attorney General. Damn. trump should have been investigated for the insurrection starting on DAY ONE of Biden's term. But NO. They didn't want to. They just wanted to "move ahead". FUCK THOSE TWO DAMNED IDIOTS, biden & garland.

Trump could and should have been in prison. There is no excuse for that. Biden is the reason that trump was able to run for president. Fucking fool.

merrick garland had to be SHAMED into investigating trump, THREE YEARS AFTER THE INSURRECTION. He should lose his license to practice law. Seriously. He and Biden let this country down.

democrats don't know how to fight back, not even when their own jobs are at risk. They barely won in 2020. And that was after trump let 1 million people die from Covid

If you think they are going to all of a sudden start fighting for things, you're really kidding yourself.

R21 Attorney General Merrick Doormat

r21 - I share your anger. I feel the same way.

On the positive side, Adam Schiff, a man described as Nixonian, is now in the Senate. Let's see if that even matters.

But Isn’t “Christian” just a code-word for “white” in America?

Just Say No!

[quote]People in Kansas and Missouri voted in favor of abortion access.

At least that will mean fewer Kansans and Missourians.