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Sweet Jesus our shooter is hot as hell: Part 2

Continue discussion about everyone’s favorite insurance hating twunk, Luigi Mangione.

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by Anonymousreply 374December 25, 2024 8:00 AM

Part 1

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by Anonymousreply 1December 11, 2024 1:13 PM

Ya my bitch now

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by Anonymousreply 2December 11, 2024 1:14 PM

I love the insinuation of articles like this that imply the right woman would have saved him.

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by Anonymousreply 3December 11, 2024 1:15 PM

DEAR JESUS DON'T HURT OUR GIGI HE'S A VICTIM TOO PEOPLE!!!

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by Anonymousreply 4December 11, 2024 1:17 PM

Babygirl

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by Anonymousreply 5December 11, 2024 1:18 PM

Tittaes

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by Anonymousreply 6December 11, 2024 1:18 PM

R3 "the right woman would have saved him"

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by Anonymousreply 7December 11, 2024 1:21 PM

Young

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by Anonymousreply 8December 11, 2024 1:21 PM

Two things:

1. I think the back thing was an issue but I think he used it as an excuse for not dating girls, because he’s gay.

2. I think he’s an MK ULTRA patsy and sacrificial pawn.

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by Anonymousreply 9December 11, 2024 1:22 PM

[quote]I think the back thing was an issue but I think he used it as an excuse for not dating girls, because he’s gay.

I have severe back problems.

by Anonymousreply 10December 11, 2024 1:25 PM

He’s fine as hell, and I’ll suck him off.

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by Anonymousreply 11December 11, 2024 1:27 PM

I have been in traction since my first movie.

by Anonymousreply 12December 11, 2024 1:29 PM

I hate the way the blurb in R9 is phrased. As if it's impossible to have an Ivy League education AND be able to see the inherent flaws, injustice, and inhumanity in the "American way of life." Isn't that what an education is for? To teach how to think critically? Would they be pearl-clutching and wondering how Harvard grad John Adams went CRAZY and became radicalized against the British? Fuck the media.

by Anonymousreply 13December 11, 2024 1:30 PM

The media has such an agenda. Once you see it you can’t unsee it. Hate to say it but Trump was right: FAKE NEWS!

by Anonymousreply 14December 11, 2024 1:32 PM

[quote]Hate to say it but Trump was right: FAKE NEWS!

He does seem eminently qualified to recognize fake, r14.

by Anonymousreply 15December 11, 2024 1:37 PM

Trump is the media’s Frankenstein creation

by Anonymousreply 16December 11, 2024 1:38 PM
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by Anonymousreply 17December 11, 2024 1:42 PM

Note to all of DLs many, many basement dwelling gay incels: see what happens when you don't fuck regularly. You go on murderous rampages.

But we all know you're ticking time bombs anyway. We see it in your racist, xenophobic, homophobic, juvenile and moronic "law and order" posts every damn day

by Anonymousreply 18December 11, 2024 1:48 PM

R18 oh please bitch. We’re just tops, we don’t sit around with Pollyanna bottom delusions like you… that if you give street psychos some cheesecake and an apple juice that they’ll turn into upstanding citizens. You don’t have a solution, just virtue signaling to boost your little ego. Have you personally given reparations yet?

by Anonymousreply 19December 11, 2024 1:54 PM

Apparently these gurleenas think Luigi is among the gurleena population.

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by Anonymousreply 20December 11, 2024 2:23 PM

GURLEENA!

by Anonymousreply 21December 11, 2024 2:39 PM

It seems LPSG has debunked every alleged nude that's come out as being either AI or a photoshop of someone on OF or whatever. As of now, there are no real nudes of him. That kind of surprises me given his popularity and looks.

Like, every gay guy I know, even the less attractive ones, if they did something like this and became famous for it, would have had nudes leaked by someone by now, even if just by a Grindr random that never bothered to delete them.

I guess the straight world really is that different. (Yes, I've heard the claims he was bi, but he seems to have been going after women mainly.)

by Anonymousreply 22December 11, 2024 3:23 PM

Gigi has puffy nips.

by Anonymousreply 23December 11, 2024 3:28 PM

I wonder if he was impotent from the surgery, or was it the pain that made sex difficult.

by Anonymousreply 24December 11, 2024 3:38 PM

I just want to run my tongue over his chest.

by Anonymousreply 25December 11, 2024 3:41 PM

The fucking she is a-difficult!

by Anonymousreply 26December 11, 2024 3:43 PM

He puts the cute in execute

by Anonymousreply 27December 11, 2024 4:00 PM

As I am a dick detective, I feel like all three cock shots I’ve seen feature the same cock. It’s girthy in the middle toward the tip. I choose to believe. Why would God stop with the nips, the face? His dick has to be magnificent.

by Anonymousreply 28December 11, 2024 4:01 PM

NYT: Police Have Suspect’s Notebook Describing Rationale for C.E.O. Killing

“What do you do? You wack the CEO at the annual parasitic bean-counter convention. It’s targeted, precise, and doesn’t risk innocents,” was one of the passages written in the notebook, the officials said.

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by Anonymousreply 29December 11, 2024 4:01 PM
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by Anonymousreply 30December 11, 2024 4:09 PM

R29, he sounds smart

by Anonymousreply 31December 11, 2024 4:28 PM

Weird detail for the Ryan Murphy mini-series. Luigi was valedictorian of his high school class, and he killed CEO Brian Thompson who was valedictorian of his high school class and also the Homecoming King.

There are no pictures of Brian Thompson on the internet when he was young. He was CEO of the largest health insurance company in America, but there appear to be like three headshot pictures and nothing else.

by Anonymousreply 32December 11, 2024 4:30 PM

I love him so much

by Anonymousreply 33December 11, 2024 4:41 PM

If he ever gets it up I’ll have his butt babies

by Anonymousreply 34December 11, 2024 4:45 PM

Behold this hog of a cock. I think it’s the same in all three photos, alleged to be him but disproven by naysayers! I would that cock fuck me into MIDDLE EARTH! All day, every day.

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by Anonymousreply 35December 11, 2024 4:53 PM

She needs an eyebrow trim

by Anonymousreply 36December 11, 2024 4:54 PM

I can see the #1 and #2 photo in R35's photos being the same person and/or being Luigi, but #3 (lower right) looks too thick, especially at the cockhead, to match the other two.

by Anonymousreply 37December 11, 2024 5:09 PM

I agree

by Anonymousreply 38December 11, 2024 5:14 PM

Italian guys have big dicks and really know how to fuck. They're amazing lovers.

by Anonymousreply 39December 11, 2024 5:22 PM

MARY!

by Anonymousreply 40December 11, 2024 5:26 PM

I still can't get a good read on whether he was truly bi, gay, or straight. He's kind of like a Rorschach test... everyone sees what they want.

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by Anonymousreply 41December 11, 2024 5:30 PM

Hes pretty

by Anonymousreply 42December 11, 2024 6:12 PM

R41: No girlfriend, valedictorian, Ivy League, left-handed . . .

by Anonymousreply 43December 11, 2024 6:30 PM

He's one of them there liberal elites!

He went crazy after he got the vaxx!

by Anonymousreply 44December 11, 2024 7:35 PM

Brian Thompson looked like the most basic straight man who ever lived.

by Anonymousreply 45December 11, 2024 8:20 PM

The shaft may be thick - great - but that dickhead has to keep up.

PASSSSSSSSSssssssssss.

by Anonymousreply 46December 11, 2024 8:27 PM

Skinny dick, but it looks like he'd absolutely drench your insides with a 13 or 14 spurt load.

by Anonymousreply 47December 11, 2024 8:42 PM

That's not a skinny dick.

by Anonymousreply 48December 11, 2024 8:44 PM

"OMG GUYS I LITERALLY F—ED THE UNITED HEALTHCARE CEO ASSASSIN,”

Straight influencers are now jumping on the Luigi bandwagon by LITERALLY jumping on Luigi.

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by Anonymousreply 49December 11, 2024 8:55 PM

Then for someone who apparently is impotent (according to the DL) he sure humped a lot of slags

by Anonymousreply 50December 11, 2024 9:06 PM

McDonald's is full of RATS!

Don't eat there.

RATS EVERYWHERE!!!

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by Anonymousreply 51December 11, 2024 9:26 PM

I want to suck those beautiful nips

by Anonymousreply 52December 11, 2024 9:28 PM

R50 His problem might be new - since his surgery last year.

by Anonymousreply 53December 11, 2024 9:59 PM

He’s straight apparently.

by Anonymousreply 54December 11, 2024 10:59 PM

Can't wait for the musical.

by Anonymousreply 55December 11, 2024 11:15 PM

[quote] Can't wait for the musical.

DL is working on that.

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by Anonymousreply 56December 11, 2024 11:19 PM

I need to see more of him

by Anonymousreply 57December 12, 2024 3:40 AM

Some more miscellaneous facts and data that may be irrelevant or not.

From the Daily Mail:

[quote] On X, Mangione had created a titled ‘psych’ full of tweets about psilocybin, also known as magic mushrooms and ln January 25 this year he added to his Goodreads a book called ‘Psilocybin Mushrooms of the World: An Identification Guide’, and ‘Mushrooms of Hawai’i: An Identification Guide’.

Here's a part that has NO attribution from a named friend. It talks about how Luigi coped with pain after the surgery:

[quote] Mangione suddenly went 'radio silent' while recovering. He sought alternative forms of pain management, including psychedelics and magic mushrooms.

^^^ Is that actually true? I can't find other news sources discussing this.

Goggle says this about Psilocybin (magic mushrooms)

[quote] There is a risk that taking psilocybin can trigger psychotic episodes in some people. Risk appears to be higher in people who have a family history of conditions associated with psychosis such as schizophrenia or bipolar disorder.

The Daily Mail article is titled, "CEO shooter suspect Luigi Mangione went 'absolutely crazy' and explored 'psychedelic treatment' after back surgery"

That's what the Daily Mail is pushing, but then again, it is the Daily Mail.

by Anonymousreply 58December 12, 2024 6:04 AM

R58 You convinced me. Not Guilty by reason on temporary insanity.

by Anonymousreply 59December 12, 2024 6:09 AM

I've never heard of shrooms making someone violent before. I suppose it's possible that it triggered some latent mental illness...but he doesn't seem schizophrenic to me. Everything he said and wrote was logical and coherent.

by Anonymousreply 60December 12, 2024 9:04 AM

[quote]You convinced me. Not Guilty by reason on temporary insanity.

Temporary insanity generally doesn't involve a manifesto.

by Anonymousreply 61December 12, 2024 10:08 AM

Seems like a lot of questions might be answered by learning where and what he's been doing for the last 6 months after going awol.

by Anonymousreply 62December 12, 2024 10:48 AM

[quote]Gigi has puffy nips.

"Jiji" is actually the Farsi word for "puffy nips."

by Anonymousreply 63December 12, 2024 12:55 PM

R13 quietly presses the notion that injustice is addressed by murder while defending the fundamental fact that education is supposed to educate.

by Anonymousreply 64December 12, 2024 2:56 PM

Does Gigi have gynecomastia?

by Anonymousreply 65December 12, 2024 4:38 PM

I hope he has hyperspermia!

by Anonymousreply 66December 12, 2024 4:41 PM

R65 My best friend and I were watching a 20/20 segment years ago on men with gynecomastia and when they returned from break she said "cue the bitch-tit music" and we still say that to this day and NOT just in the presence of bitch-tits!

by Anonymousreply 67December 12, 2024 7:46 PM

Please don't bitch-tits bring this thread to a screeching halt! Cue the hot-murderer music!

by Anonymousreply 68December 12, 2024 8:38 PM

He has bitch tits?

by Anonymousreply 69December 12, 2024 9:49 PM

Did someone say bitch tits?

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by Anonymousreply 70December 12, 2024 9:59 PM

not sure if this is real or not:

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by Anonymousreply 71December 12, 2024 10:43 PM

Really fake

by Anonymousreply 72December 12, 2024 11:42 PM

What type of job did he have? I thought he did something remotely for TrueCar? Is that a good job for an Ivy League valedictorian?

by Anonymousreply 73December 12, 2024 11:52 PM

Now they're saying Luigi wasn't even a customer/client of UHC. Doing hard time for a pointless murder of some rando who is not involved in your life? That's really fucked up, regardless of how pretty Luigi may be.

by Anonymousreply 74December 12, 2024 11:53 PM

In his post-college years he seemed to be doing quite a bit of traveling around the world on his parents' $$$$.

by Anonymousreply 75December 12, 2024 11:54 PM

To get that hot piece of ass in his prime. OMG. Fuck.

by Anonymousreply 76December 12, 2024 11:56 PM

I am no expert but psychedelics - and more LSD than mushrooms but definitely too much of any psychedelic - are not a good idea for anyone in mental and situational crisis. Maybe macrodosing is OK. Also, again, he is the right age for schizoid to manifest and REAL doses of psychedelics could be a catastrophe.

by Anonymousreply 77December 13, 2024 12:07 AM

[quote] I hate the way the blurb in [R9] is phrased. As if it's impossible to have an Ivy League education AND be able to see the inherent flaws, injustice, and inhumanity in the "American way of life." Isn't that what an education is for? To teach how to think critically? Would they be pearl-clutching and wondering how Harvard grad John Adams went CRAZY and became radicalized against the British? Fuck the media.

It doesn’t take much intelligence at all to notice the inequality in American society. That’s not what stupid about him. What’s stupid is commuting a pointless crime that will change nothing and will put him in jail for most or all of the rest of his life. And even if his act were capable of leading to change, what change is he proposing? He has no idea. Which is stupid.

by Anonymousreply 78December 13, 2024 12:08 AM

Other inmates at State Correctional Institute - Huntingdon yell out "Free Luigi!"

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by Anonymousreply 79December 13, 2024 12:15 AM

Apparently the frau theory that their dear boy was driven to murder by agonizing back pain is like everything these lumpen cows believe complete shite:

One of Mangione's apparent posts on the r/Spondylolisthesis subreddit dated to February of 2024 referred to having had a surgery for the condition six months prior.

"Yea I had L5/S1 spinal fusion 6 months ago after 1.5 years of failed conservative treatment. Within 7 days of the fusion I was on zero pain meds. (That's probably faster than most folks, but my point is just that your body isn't supposed to be in pain and need meds. Even after getting my back sliced open and my spine drilled into, I wasn't in much pain)," the post read.

by Anonymousreply 80December 13, 2024 12:19 AM

Are you denying he's psychotic?

by Anonymousreply 81December 13, 2024 12:33 AM

I mean to type Maybe MICROdosing is OK.

by Anonymousreply 82December 13, 2024 12:34 AM

[quote] Doing hard time for a pointless murder of some rando who is not involved in your life? That's really fucked up

Our Gigi is a selfless martyr! Sancte Ludovice, ora pro nobis!

by Anonymousreply 83December 13, 2024 1:19 AM

Jesse Watters of FoxNews The Five talks about how justice could be served if Luigi gets raped? or killed? while behind bars.

[quote] Watters: "He’s way too soft. He’s going to get annihilated. If he's not going to get the death penalty, maybe someone will do him justice behind bars."

[quote] Judge Jeanine: "You should stop there."

A Twitter user reacts to this clip this way.

[quote] Walters: "Vigilante justice is bad." Also Watters: "Vigilante justice is good."

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by Anonymousreply 84December 13, 2024 1:21 AM

r71, that's obviously AI.

by Anonymousreply 85December 13, 2024 1:25 AM

Fox News: vigilante justice is only okay when we do it!

by Anonymousreply 86December 13, 2024 1:25 AM

When is Jesse Watters going to cost Fox half a billion in a lawsuit? The clock is ticking. What garbage human being.

by Anonymousreply 87December 13, 2024 1:26 AM

The NYT doesn't want its readers to see pictures of Luigi's face anymore. They issued a memo to reporters/editors:

[quote] Ken Klippenstein: Yesterday the New York Times instructed staff to avoid publishing photos of Luigi Mangione's face, internal company messages leaked to me reveal.

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by Anonymousreply 88December 13, 2024 1:54 AM

That sucks, R88. What harm could it do to let us rest our eyes on the man before he goes away for such a long time?

by Anonymousreply 89December 13, 2024 2:12 AM

He has beautiful hair

by Anonymousreply 90December 13, 2024 2:18 AM

R84 According to Jesse Waters it depends on who the victim of vigilante justice is. If it's a black man on a subway train, it's good. If it's a white corporate healthcare CEO millionaire, then it's bad.

by Anonymousreply 91December 13, 2024 2:21 AM

The man on the subway was physically threatening passengers.

by Anonymousreply 92December 13, 2024 2:26 AM

R92 He was upset and he yelling, he did not touch anybody.

by Anonymousreply 93December 13, 2024 2:34 AM

R90 he has beautiful EVERYTHING

by Anonymousreply 94December 13, 2024 2:58 AM

R92 I guess that’s worse than killing someone? And he wasn’t physically hurting anyone.

by Anonymousreply 95December 13, 2024 3:00 AM

R92 He said he was hungry and thirsty and didn’t care if he lived or died.

by Anonymousreply 96December 13, 2024 3:02 AM
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by Anonymousreply 97December 13, 2024 3:06 AM

Apparently the credit system at his prison commissary crashed because too many people were trying to send him money, and his lawyer has been inundated with offers to pay his fees (which he is not accepting). Jury nullification has got to be a real possibility here.

And boy, aren't the ruling class rattled? Andrew Yang has tweeted five or six times about why celebrating this is really, really bad. Musk has joined in to tell us that killing CEOs 'is not based'. Meanwhile, there's an organised attempt to posthumously reinvent Brian Thompson as a working class hero.

Luigi's family seem able to afford the best treatment available - but perhaps chronic pain radicalised him anyway, even if he didn't get a claim turned down.

Really quite something that this is all kicking off just a month after Trump was elected.

by Anonymousreply 98December 13, 2024 3:38 AM

His best chance is to put the healthcare insurance industry on trial and go for maximum theatre. Maybe that was the plan all along. It's going to be delicious to watch.

by Anonymousreply 99December 13, 2024 3:44 AM

Hello? He's a murderer. Some of you guys have very low standards.

by Anonymousreply 100December 13, 2024 3:44 AM

Besides the ability to commit cold blooded premeditated murder, Luigi has other skills that will help our Babygirl where she's heading.

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by Anonymousreply 101December 13, 2024 3:46 AM

If LuAnn is following him she fucked him

by Anonymousreply 102December 13, 2024 3:49 AM

R99" perhaps chronic pain radicalised him anyway, even if he didn't get a claim turned down".

change your name to: MoronicEuropean

One of Mangione's apparent posts on the r/Spondylolisthesis subreddit dated to February of 2024 referred to having had a surgery for the condition six months prior.

"Yea I had L5/S1 spinal fusion 6 months ago after 1.5 years of failed conservative treatment. Within 7 days of the fusion I was on zero pain meds. (That's probably faster than most folks, but my point is just that your body isn't supposed to be in pain and need meds. Even after getting my back sliced open and my spine drilled into, I wasn't in much pain)," the post read.

by Anonymousreply 103December 13, 2024 3:54 AM

I would love to see Luigi's veritably hairy asshole

by Anonymousreply 104December 13, 2024 3:55 AM

The Countess for the Defense

by Anonymousreply 105December 13, 2024 4:09 AM

Now now R103, who shat in your cornflakes?

You yourself describe that as 'one of his apparent posts'. If the surgery was a huge success though, why did he break off contact with his family shortly after? He blew off his Hawaiian landlord/friend who was asking him how it went too.

BTW the DM said he got laid off from True Car last year, in case you missed it.

by Anonymousreply 106December 13, 2024 4:14 AM

Verificatia of sizemeat?

by Anonymousreply 107December 13, 2024 4:17 AM

His body looks pretty hairless, but maybe he has a hairy hole? Doibtful. Maybe just a few hairs.

Look, he’s gorgeous, adorable, sexy all at once, a trifecta.

But c’mon guys, he’s gone round the bend, he’s batshit crazy and will only get nutier. It’s like crushing on Robert Kennedy, Jr. Luigi is lost to us.

by Anonymousreply 108December 13, 2024 4:37 AM

I’ll write him letters

by Anonymousreply 109December 13, 2024 4:47 AM

He will never be convicted. They’ll never find 12 people who will vote guilty.

by Anonymousreply 110December 13, 2024 5:02 AM

[quote]Andrew Yang has tweeted five or six times about why celebrating this is really, really bad.

What a piece of shit.

by Anonymousreply 111December 13, 2024 5:04 AM

I’m hearing more and more people, from all walks of life say, while they don’t condone murder, this shooting gave some satisfaction. This struck a nerve. We were told over and over the electorate was angry.

by Anonymousreply 112December 13, 2024 5:10 AM

People should stand up

by Anonymousreply 113December 13, 2024 5:12 AM

Thank you R36. Apparently a lot of men on this site are vision impaired. He is not hot.

by Anonymousreply 114December 13, 2024 5:27 AM

[quote] It’s like crushing on Robert Kennedy, Jr. Luigi is lost to us.

If you were ever inclined to crush on RFK Jr, he and Luigi are not the only ones who are lost.

by Anonymousreply 115December 13, 2024 8:07 AM

[quote]The NYT doesn't want its readers to see pictures of Luigi's face anymore.

[quote]And boy, aren't the ruling class rattled?

Luigi's showreels are out there forever, the NYT can pander to TPTB all it likes. The rattling won't go away any time soon.

by Anonymousreply 116December 13, 2024 8:19 AM

I predict that we are going to see several more, “Let them eat cake!” situations like this where the wealthy class tries to tamp down on public empathy and it fails abysmally.

People are tired of being told what to think.

by Anonymousreply 117December 13, 2024 8:33 AM

[quote] And boy, aren't the ruling class rattled? Andrew Yang has tweeted five or six times about why celebrating this is really, really bad. Musk has joined in to tell us that killing CEOs 'is not based'. Meanwhile, there's an organised attempt to posthumously reinvent Brian Thompson as a working class hero.

Yiu don’t have to be part of the ruling class to deplore a murder. You just have not to be a degenerate and a moron to deplore it.

by Anonymousreply 118December 13, 2024 8:38 AM

R118 These aren't the standard 'thoughts and prayers' tweets that we're seeing.... some high-profile people are feeling threatened right now.

The guy even had prisoners chanting his name from their cells on live TV.

I hope they televise the trial, it'll be bigger than OJ.

by Anonymousreply 119December 13, 2024 9:15 AM

The trial will not be televised. New York Superior Court doesn't permit cameras. (The reason why his Stormy Daniel's tax bribery case and E. Jean Carroll's cases were not televised. Which, unfortunately, mean we couldn't see him dozing daily at the defendants table).

Oh, look. The San Francisco PD knew about him 4 days before Altoona and reported it. (due to mother's missing persons report)

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by Anonymousreply 120December 13, 2024 9:33 AM

[quote]He will never be convicted. They’ll never find 12 people who will vote guilty.

You might be surprised.

by Anonymousreply 121December 13, 2024 9:37 AM

R120 So the judge doesn't have any discretion here? Too bad. I bet there will be a lot going on outside the courtroom though.

by Anonymousreply 122December 13, 2024 9:56 AM

I'm far from being a conspiracy theorist but there are definitely aspects of this that don't ring true. It just all seems a bit convenient that he had these statements on him when he arrested and that said statements were quickly made public.

It made me laugh to see Jesse Watters of Fox News implying inmates might attack Luigi on the inside. Even on the right-wing platform that is Twitter, 99% of the replies were criticising Watters and saying it'd be the opposite - ie inmates would be patting him on the back for taking out a rich health insurance CEO.

by Anonymousreply 123December 13, 2024 9:57 AM

No, r122. The judge follows NY State law. It's up to the Legislature to change the law and the governor to sign off.

In the meantime, sketch artists go righteous bananas as with Criming Rudy this week. The person who captured him in court deserves a Pulitzer, if there's such a thing for courtroom artists interpreting the sociopathic bullshit that transpires there.

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by Anonymousreply 124December 13, 2024 10:06 AM

New York needs to change those laws that prohibit televised trials. The people have a right to see what their tax dollars are paying for.

by Anonymousreply 125December 13, 2024 10:28 AM

R120 its obvious a few of his friends and family ID'd him but did not rat him out for several days.

by Anonymousreply 126December 13, 2024 10:59 AM

R106 change your name to:

MoronicEuropeanForWhomEnglishIsMySecondLanguage

by Anonymousreply 127December 13, 2024 11:58 AM

ConcernedEuropean=RetardedAmericanTeacake

by Anonymousreply 128December 13, 2024 12:00 PM

[quote]Hello? He's a murderer. Some of you guys have very low standards.

I repeat what I said in the previous thread: He only killed bad people, so it's okay to stroke your boner over him. This is the perfect story to both distract and motivate us as we approach the coming corporate dictatorship.

by Anonymousreply 129December 13, 2024 12:08 PM

R129 With Teacake's arrival Thread is offically declared infested.

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by Anonymousreply 130December 13, 2024 12:39 PM

R127 Are you flexing your English-language skills right now?

by Anonymousreply 131December 13, 2024 12:44 PM

BTW I have a dumb question. Do these 3D printed guns require special ammunition?

No-one has mentioned Luigi having an interest in guns yet, but he seemed able to unjam his pretty efficiently during the shooting. Would he have trained somewhere? What might have attracted him to the 3d printed weapon rather than just getting a gun in the normal way - would it be easier to avoid detection?

by Anonymousreply 132December 13, 2024 1:10 PM

he's a craftsman. he builds things, like a real man.

by Anonymousreply 133December 13, 2024 1:24 PM

R80, I’m not sure of your point.

He doesn’t have to be in physical pain to despise what UHC ‘s corporate leadership has been callously doing after having taken billions of “insured” patients’ money.

by Anonymousreply 134December 13, 2024 2:07 PM

Luigi we need to know: how hairy is your ass??

by Anonymousreply 135December 13, 2024 2:15 PM

No reputable study indicates that insurance companies are responsible for the poor health and longevity results in America. Gun violence is one factor that does account for some of our poor performance in longevity. So what do brilliant Americans decide to do? Celebrate a shooter for killing an insurance executive.

by Anonymousreply 136December 13, 2024 2:44 PM

Putting the "P" in Penis

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by Anonymousreply 137December 13, 2024 2:59 PM

Man, I thought we'd see a nude there! LOL

by Anonymousreply 138December 13, 2024 3:04 PM

Good looking

by Anonymousreply 139December 13, 2024 3:28 PM

[quote]No reputable study indicates that insurance companies are responsible for the poor health and longevity results in America.

I have to agree with this. Most of the poor health and outcomes are due to things like poor diet, poor lifestyle habits, uncontrolled chronic diseases like hypertension and diabetes, and obesity. Most of these are worse in minority populations.

All of these things like primary care, treatment for diabetes and hypertension, cancer screenings, prenatal care, help with quitting smoking…are typically covered by insurance.

The poor outcomes are not due to things like denied surgery, and denied coverage for advanced cancer treatment…which are typically better in the US than countries with single-payer systems.

The fact that some people don’t have insurance at all, or don’t have access to adequate primary care…is more of a government policy problem than an insurance executive problem.

by Anonymousreply 140December 13, 2024 3:37 PM

No one is arguing that insurance companies are responsible for the poor health and longevity results in America.

by Anonymousreply 141December 13, 2024 3:42 PM

Luigi did in his manifesto, r141

by Anonymousreply 142December 13, 2024 3:45 PM

[quote] is more of a government policy problem than an insurance executive problem

A propos of nothing, the United Healthcare group and its affiliates spend more on political contributions than most comparable organisations, according to independent monitors.

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by Anonymousreply 143December 13, 2024 3:52 PM

Peter Thiel completely fell apart today trying to answer a question about this for Piers Morgan, not the world's most incisive or punchy interviewer. Told you they are rattled!

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by Anonymousreply 144December 13, 2024 3:55 PM

luigi picked the right one

by Anonymousreply 145December 13, 2024 3:55 PM

r144, damn, gurleen hogs the moisturizer.

by Anonymousreply 146December 13, 2024 3:56 PM

Yeah, straw man argument. The frustration and rage is coming from automatic denials of health care (sometimes lifesaving) and from the obstructionism and exhausting, time-consuming strategies these companies have adopted in recent decades, not from some abstract discontent with longevity statistics.

by Anonymousreply 147December 13, 2024 4:05 PM

[quote]Luigi did in his manifesto, [R141]

Nutcases don't count.

by Anonymousreply 148December 13, 2024 4:07 PM

Link @ R144 is completely excruciating. The most inept response, or non-response, to an interview question by a power player I've ever seen. It'll go viral as the very definition of being rattled.

by Anonymousreply 149December 13, 2024 4:11 PM

He's a hot twunky Italian Batman. Or the Punisher, a real-life superhero taking out evil bastards. The world needs more like him.

by Anonymousreply 150December 13, 2024 4:14 PM

was this wrong?

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by Anonymousreply 151December 13, 2024 4:17 PM

R132, I got curious about 3D printed guns as I was reading all the coverage and have a few pieces of info. At first I assumed Luigi had printed the guns himself and I couldn’t grasp that at all. How do you form metal into a gun if you don’t have specialized expertise and a work space — which, who knows, maybe he did.

Turns out he didn’t necessarily have to make it himself. Enter the term “ghost gun.” You can apparently buy gun kits online and assemble them yourself, which renders your weapon untraceable because it doesn’t have a serial number. I haven’t learned a thing about tracing guns, so this is just a flat assertion that I read more than once: ghost guns are untraceable.

The thing I found most interesting was one tidbit that I only saw once in all the reporting. Everyone was reporting that as he was shooting the gun had jammed and that he had skillfully dealt with that, but one report suggested that he was purposely ejecting the bullets he had written on without firing them. Maybe so the words would be more legible?

I have NO idea if that’s true but it has been my observation that when one report has differed from all the others, it has sounded more plausible than the others.

For example, I keep seeing that he shouted, “It’s totally out of control and an insult to the intelligence of the American people.” The lone report that varied said he shouted, “This is a miscarriage of justice and ….”

So, there you go. Guesses and projections abound. People seem far more ready to make things up than to say, “Yeah, I don’t know.”

What I’m curious about now is the tactic his attorney is using, claiming he has seen no evidence to suggest Luigi committed this crime. Seems like everybody else has!

by Anonymousreply 152December 13, 2024 4:18 PM

R152. Interesting. Would the gun kits then be posted from outside the United States? Seems like the authorities should be able to crack down on the ghost gun trade otherwise. For all the comments about mental illness this thing seems to have been well and audaciously planned, coming from a young guy who appears to have no military or police experience. Did he have advance knowledge of Thompson's movements or did he just get lucky?

Re: his attorney I think they are just trying to stall his extradition to NY as a legal tactic, though I'm not sure of the precise issues at stake here.

by Anonymousreply 153December 13, 2024 4:33 PM

This is the United States of America! "Authorities" do not "crack down" on any kind of gun trade here.

by Anonymousreply 154December 13, 2024 5:00 PM

I’m at the limit of what I’ve read, R153. I didn’t see anything about how someone orders a ghost gun or where they come from.

How Luigi positioned himself so well is another thing I’ve only seen people speculating about. Reports say cameras have caught him walking back and forth, idling around as he waited for Thompson to appear, but I haven’t seen any of that footage, and I did see CCTV footage of Luigi firing the shots that killed Thompson without even having to look very hard for it. Most of the video clips cut out at the point where Luigi takes aim but in the longer clip you also see a woman come out of a door as he’s leveling the gun. She takes one look, understands the situation, and heads off in the other direction at top speed. It’d be funny if the larger situation weren’t so awful.

by Anonymousreply 155December 13, 2024 5:07 PM

R144 wow what a mess. Is he emotional because such a hot young man hates plutocrats?

by Anonymousreply 156December 13, 2024 5:09 PM

Crackdown on health insurance companies? It will never happen. Doctors, nurses and especially hospitals want to get paid.

So the shooter was into black guys?

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by Anonymousreply 157December 13, 2024 5:20 PM

Doctors and nurses many times would rather not be beholden to insurance racketeers, especially nurses

by Anonymousreply 158December 13, 2024 5:43 PM

One of them, a black man named only as Sean Y, told Media Take Out that he and Luigi were together for nearly 5 years.

He recalled to the site: "We met at a gay club in Baltimore. He was one of the only white guys in the club, and he bought me a drink."

Sean said the two went home together that night, and enjoyed a long-distance relationship on-and-off for the next several years.

"He would see me when he was in town. And he was very generous. He’d always buy me something nice, from Hermes or Louis Vuitton. Those are my favorites," Sean claimed.

Another openly gay black man from Philadelphia claimed to have had a similar relationship with Mangione .

The man, identified only as Tommy, said Mangione clearly had a type: "He was big into hip hop and Black culture." But the two apparently kept their relationship shallow: "We never really talked politics or anything like that."

Tommy said much like Sean, Mangione showered him with pricey gifts.

"I am an expensive friend. Luigi knew that and made sure that I was properly taken care of."

by Anonymousreply 159December 13, 2024 5:48 PM

He will be a FAT depressed murderer in a few weeks.

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by Anonymousreply 160December 13, 2024 5:50 PM

R160 That sounds like a dream diet! McDonald's and junk food, this kid is just like me.

by Anonymousreply 161December 13, 2024 5:52 PM

Only you have killed more people, Donny Boy.

by Anonymousreply 162December 13, 2024 5:53 PM

[quote]Another openly gay black man from Philadelphia claimed to have had a similar relationship with Mangione .

Gee, that narrows it down

by Anonymousreply 163December 13, 2024 5:56 PM

Luigi is into black guys, so that means he's a bottom.

by Anonymousreply 164December 13, 2024 5:58 PM

Meh, looks too much like a rodent. He has a bangin' body, though. Look out, Luigi! Don't drop the soap!

by Anonymousreply 165December 13, 2024 6:14 PM

R156/R144 I suspect

1. Peter Thiel has substantial financial holdings in United Health Care;

2. has supported/encouraged their use of AI;

3. has profited greatly from their bogus denials of legitimate claims;

and is deathly afraid that it’s going to come out.

by Anonymousreply 166December 13, 2024 6:28 PM

R166 Interesting. Can't wait to see how his employee JD Vance plays the weeks and months ahead.

by Anonymousreply 167December 13, 2024 6:36 PM

Thiel looks like a melting wax figure in that clip R144.

by Anonymousreply 168December 13, 2024 6:37 PM

Luigi's 50 Load Weekend

by Anonymousreply 169December 13, 2024 6:58 PM

[quote]Crackdown on health insurance companies? It will never happen. Doctors, nurses and especially hospitals want to get paid.

There was a thread on Reddit that got shut down with hundreds of people venting about insurance companies - all of them doctors.

by Anonymousreply 170December 13, 2024 7:05 PM

Bossy bottom vibes.

by Anonymousreply 171December 13, 2024 7:07 PM

Why, thank you, R168! It's my Master Race genes plus weekly injections of the blood of pre-teen boys that gives me this glow.

by Anonymousreply 172December 13, 2024 7:27 PM

I'm scared that Thiel will have poor Luigi whacked now.

by Anonymousreply 173December 13, 2024 7:31 PM

Interesting take r166. Not shocked if any of it was true, would love to see the blowback if it came out. The Billionaire Boys Club, headed by Thiel, running like rats for safe cover. To probably find little to none.

by Anonymousreply 174December 13, 2024 7:33 PM

I only "Whack" rent boys

by Anonymousreply 175December 13, 2024 7:59 PM

He's gorging on sugar and snacks? Uh, oh. He better be careful. As was the case with Chris Watt and others, we at DL consider murder forgivable. But fat? Never!

by Anonymousreply 176December 13, 2024 8:26 PM

That is one ugly youngish terrorist with a big nose and Idiot mentality.

by Anonymousreply 177December 13, 2024 8:30 PM

I want him to breed me full of his butt babies

by Anonymousreply 178December 13, 2024 8:43 PM

Uncut, unprotected, unload! 💦

by Anonymousreply 179December 13, 2024 8:44 PM

[quote]Bossy bottom vibes.

When knew that when we learned Our Gurl Luigi was a Charli stan

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by Anonymousreply 180December 13, 2024 8:46 PM

One of the Philly black stations said:

"But neither man believed that Luigi’s back problems were seriously debilitating. Sean unapologetically told Media Take Out, “He could still take buckshots, so it couldn’t have been that bad.”

Buckshots?

cum loads? What is a buckshot? Did he mean butt shots? Backshot's?

Teafake, where are you?

by Anonymousreply 181December 13, 2024 8:51 PM

Peter T also thinks that the left is 'low testosterone', apparently.

I dunno, Luigi seems to have plenty to spare.

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by Anonymousreply 182December 13, 2024 9:02 PM

A buck was a slur used to describe the violent, rapist black man stereotype in the early 1900s. A "buck shot" would presumably be a load received from an aggressive "buck". I can see black tops adopting that for themselves as reclaiming the slur and maybe a bit of raceplay, but DO THEY? I don't know. Yes, where is teafake when you need him?

by Anonymousreply 183December 13, 2024 9:03 PM

[quote]That is one ugly youngish terrorist with a big nose and Idiot mentality.

I told y'all Peter Thiel posts here!

by Anonymousreply 184December 13, 2024 9:07 PM

Can you get PrEP in prison?

by Anonymousreply 185December 13, 2024 9:28 PM

Buckshots?

by Anonymousreply 186December 13, 2024 9:34 PM

R183 Black tops have self-identified as "bucks" in the kink community for decades. Yes, there is occassionally an element of race play in the power dynamic (as there is for many black kinksters) but more often than not, it's used in cuckholdry play. The buck is brought in to properly fuck the cuck's partner. It's meant to be objectifying to every player in the scene.

by Anonymousreply 187December 13, 2024 9:50 PM

^NOT teafake, just gay and kinky.

by Anonymousreply 188December 13, 2024 9:56 PM

Once drs become well known and sought after, some simply don't take insurance any more. My friend's oncologist in Manhattan doesn't. That makes me see red ( even though I'm not a patient, heh).

by Anonymousreply 189December 13, 2024 10:13 PM

father please i waanna kiss him

by Anonymousreply 190December 13, 2024 10:18 PM

I recently read that you can get condoms, R185, but I’ve been googling so much I don’t remember where I saw it.

by Anonymousreply 191December 13, 2024 10:23 PM

Buckshot

Buckshot: an insanely large amount of seminal fluid secreted on a girl right after rough sex in a splattering form that covers her when the male pulls out for ejaculation.

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by Anonymousreply 192December 13, 2024 10:26 PM

In the picture in the OP what is the guy behind him doing?

by Anonymousreply 193December 13, 2024 11:52 PM

I keep wondering what happened to that woman you see in the video clearly looking at the assassin as he is shooting the gun. Do you see her running away? She seems to stand there stunned. Is anyone looking for her as a witness? Nobody ever mentions her in any of the news reports. She just ran off and is keeping her secret so nobody knows she was there?

by Anonymousreply 194December 14, 2024 12:54 AM

Well if Luigi was into black men all sympathy from the straights who were fucked over by the healthcare system will evaporate faster than sunshine in a Floride rainstorm.

by Anonymousreply 195December 14, 2024 1:05 AM

How much grease is that Thiel person wearing on his face and for what reason exactly??

by Anonymousreply 196December 14, 2024 1:30 AM

Well he often has his head up Trump's ass,

by Anonymousreply 197December 14, 2024 1:34 AM

Those temple veins look like hemp rope.

by Anonymousreply 198December 14, 2024 1:34 AM

r198, brain worms...sharing is caring.

by Anonymousreply 199December 14, 2024 1:37 AM

One of the talking heads on youtube said he would likely end up at Rikers. Would that be a worse case scenario when it comes to possible prisons for him? They sort of made it sound like that.

by Anonymousreply 200December 14, 2024 2:28 AM

Rikers is...bad.

So is he still fighting extradition?

by Anonymousreply 201December 14, 2024 3:46 AM

He needs to be out on bail, the amount of stress that he's under is immense. He needs a home cooked meal and a hot bath.

by Anonymousreply 202December 14, 2024 3:50 AM

R188, thanks. Ok gay but apparently not as kinky as you and Luigi

by Anonymousreply 203December 14, 2024 3:55 AM

The Daily Beast has done this whole deep dive into his Navy Veteran self-made millionnaire rough diamond grandfather for some reason.

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by Anonymousreply 204December 14, 2024 3:58 AM
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by Anonymousreply 205December 14, 2024 4:11 AM

R27 wins by a buckshot!

by Anonymousreply 206December 14, 2024 4:26 AM

When the cops found him in McDonald's they asked him if he'd been to New York City recently and he "began to shake."

This made me sad. Why'd he do it? He must've known he wouldn't get away with it.

by Anonymousreply 207December 14, 2024 4:32 AM

Sorry, but the more photos posted of him here, the more that mug of his is reminding me of Annette Funicello.

by Anonymousreply 208December 14, 2024 4:57 AM

R207, you believe that tripe?

by Anonymousreply 209December 14, 2024 5:03 AM

Have you forgotten about me already?

(I was also 26 at the time of the bombing)

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by Anonymousreply 210December 14, 2024 8:37 AM

No r210, we never cared about you and you whiny twink look. Luigi is a MAN!

by Anonymousreply 211December 14, 2024 9:44 AM

His grandfather was very charming looking and quite handsome. Such a nice smile in those genetics.

by Anonymousreply 212December 14, 2024 10:17 AM

Right?

by Anonymousreply 213December 14, 2024 12:26 PM

I can't blame a girl for craving some buckshot

by Anonymousreply 214December 14, 2024 1:30 PM

[quote]Yeah, straw man argument. The frustration and rage is coming from automatic denials of health care (sometimes lifesaving) and from the obstructionism and exhausting, time-consuming strategies these companies have adopted in recent decades, not from some abstract discontent with longevity statistics.

So, he was killed because people are frustrated about paperwork? I thought it was because the insurance companies were committing literal genocide.

It's nice that you clarified that this is a paperwork issue. Now I more fully understand why it is justifiable homicide and why we need to do this to all the insurance executives.

You have been most helpful!

by Anonymousreply 215December 14, 2024 3:45 PM

[quote]No one is arguing that insurance companies are responsible for the poor health and longevity results in America.

How stupid do you think we are? Really? How stupid? You think you sentence will make us forgot all the people spewing nonsense about genocide and how many more deaths the executive caused than Mangione did?

And, if health and longevity aren't the reasons for the killing, what exactly did Mangione risk life in prison for? A paperwork reduction crusade.

Try harder.

by Anonymousreply 216December 14, 2024 4:02 PM

I want more corporate killings, the shame someone has to go to prison for doing what needs to be done, the pain is real, I bet CEOs all over the country are shit ass afraid, the private security companies are gonna make some good cash.

by Anonymousreply 217December 14, 2024 4:36 PM

For whom it may concern.

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by Anonymousreply 218December 14, 2024 4:38 PM

If you don't need the services that corporations provide you can always not buy them. Seems simpler than shooting the executives.

by Anonymousreply 219December 14, 2024 5:03 PM

Of course. Nobody needs insurance.

by Anonymousreply 220December 14, 2024 6:05 PM

His titties are amazing

r160 called it, unfortunately within a year he will gain a ton of weight and be unrecognizable, like most inmates do 😩

by Anonymousreply 221December 14, 2024 6:17 PM

He’s an ICON.

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by Anonymousreply 222December 14, 2024 6:45 PM

R221 he’s young and probably will get fit. If they don’t Epstein him.

by Anonymousreply 223December 14, 2024 6:45 PM

Someone in Pittsburgh has been hanging up signs featuring Luigi accompanied by Mr. Rogers' "Look to the helpers" quote.

(For those who don't know, the full quote is: “When I was a boy and I would see scary things in the news, my mother would say to me, "Look for the helpers. You will always find people who are helping.” )

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by Anonymousreply 224December 14, 2024 7:31 PM

I want his big guinea dick inside me balls deep.

by Anonymousreply 225December 14, 2024 8:00 PM

[quote]Someone in Pittsburgh has been hanging up signs featuring Luigi accompanied by Mr. Rogers' "Look to the helpers" quote.

Where, Sylvia?

by Anonymousreply 226December 14, 2024 8:23 PM

Stupid Queens, they are trying to soil his reputation so what else do they say than say he is gay and takes black cock. Use your fucking heads, you dumbasses. He is a hero

by Anonymousreply 227December 14, 2024 8:49 PM

R222, where the fuck is that?

by Anonymousreply 228December 14, 2024 11:40 PM

R219 Private health insurance companies have undue and corrupt influences in our government. The US is the only advanced country in the world that does not offer public universal healthcare. We do not have the option of not buying their services because that is all that is available. We should not a middle man acting as arbiter of what medical services can and cannot be covered. They are basically a corporate mafia at this point. And the incoming Trump administration is actively looking to eliminate the VA Veteran Administration and privatize that it as well. I bet there will be many former military who are very accomplished with weapons who will get really pissed off and may also be looking to target not just CEOs but elected officials who sponsor such a heinous act of privatizing veterans medical care.

by Anonymousreply 229December 15, 2024 12:56 AM

R222 Hooo, that's quite something! He's a cult figure. Has this happened with any previous high-profile murderer?

by Anonymousreply 230December 15, 2024 1:49 AM

The author of the twitter thread R222 links to also makes a fair point: perhaps Gen Z Americans would be less inured to violence if something more than just thoughts and prayers had been offered to them after all the school shootings.

by Anonymousreply 231December 15, 2024 1:51 AM

R215 is being willfully obtuse.

by Anonymousreply 232December 15, 2024 1:59 AM

R224 Oof, Sylvia. That's no good.

by Anonymousreply 233December 15, 2024 2:00 AM

Other Luigi reactions on Twitter.

"St. Luigi- The Patron Saint of Healthcare."

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by Anonymousreply 234December 15, 2024 2:29 AM

I love it

by Anonymousreply 235December 15, 2024 3:16 AM

The US has the 69th best healthcare system in the world, at least according to Legatum Institute, whoever they are (scroll down a bit)!

Not far behind #58 Iran, 63 Turkey, 65 Bulgaria, 67 Jamaica, 68 Armenia -- and we're ahead of 84 Russia.

It could be worse!

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by Anonymousreply 236December 15, 2024 4:30 AM

[quote][R215] is being willfully obtuse.

Given that R215 is trying to equate "automatic denials of health care (sometimes lifesaving)" as mere "paperwork," R215 is being knowingly deceptive.

by Anonymousreply 237December 15, 2024 12:55 PM

R234, I look forward to his candle!

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by Anonymousreply 238December 15, 2024 12:59 PM

I need it

by Anonymousreply 239December 15, 2024 1:21 PM

Looks like there was no reason to be horrified or condemn the killing of Brian Thompson, which I did initially, the way so many on the right do and blame it the left which is bizarre. There are as many on the right who feel the way those on the left do. He seems to have killed many people with his policies and Luigi's action even if it was some psychotic breakdown has caused an open discussion on healthcare from all income levels and political leanings the way nothing has ever done before. And Brian had the mercy of a relatively quick death unlike those who were denied healthcare in his quest for corporate profits. So yes whatever Luigi's motives he CAN be considered an American folk hero. Brian wore a suit and tie and delegated his dirty work to others like some padrino. So what about his family? Many families have been destroyed because of him.

It reminds me of Gilbert's words from Pirates of Penzance:

Oh, better far to live and die

Under the brave black flag I fly,

Than play a sanctimonious part,

With a pirate head and a pirate heart.

Away to the cheating world go you,

Where pirates all are well-to-do;

by Anonymousreply 240December 15, 2024 1:23 PM

[quote] The US is the only advanced country in the world that does not offer public universal healthcare

Obviously, I know this, and anyone with two brain cells knows this. Ultimately, we have private insurance because that is what the voters vote for. If you don’t like the healthcare system in the US, you’re not going to accomplish anything by shooting insurance executives. You need to shoot the slightly more than 50 percent of the voters who consistently vote against health care reform. Voters have consistently punished democrats for imposing even minimal reforms on insurance and health care. We just elected a man who has consistently attacked the minimal reform his predecessor made to the insurance system. A substantial share of the electorate were incensed by that minimal reform and preferred a concept of a plan.

So , if the electorate doesn’t want national insurance, you’re left with the choice of private insurance or paying out of pocket. Like any other private, profit-seeking enterprise, insurance companies are stepping in to offer a service people can’t perform themselves and that the government cannot perform. Personally, I’m glad insurance companies, however imperfect they are, exist. I see you disagree . I’m glad you are rich enough that you don’t need insurance or are confident enough that national insurance is moths or weeks away. Unfortunately, I’m not in that position.

by Anonymousreply 241December 15, 2024 1:31 PM

[quote] Like any other private, profit-seeking enterprise, insurance companies are stepping in to offer a service people can’t perform themselves and that the government cannot perform.

Key word "offer"—and then work hard not to supply. And R241 has some disingenuously ideal notions of government.

by Anonymousreply 242December 15, 2024 1:38 PM

Interesting you accuse me of being disingenuous but offer no evidence. Or did you type that out and it failed to post?

by Anonymousreply 243December 15, 2024 1:40 PM

R262. Offer in the sense that you can choose not to contract with them. You can pay out of pocket or contract with a different insurance provider.

by Anonymousreply 244December 15, 2024 1:42 PM

R241 Isn't there a third option: to continue to rely on private insurance but only that provided by non-profit insurers?

by Anonymousreply 245December 15, 2024 1:45 PM

R245. Why would someone offer that on a nonprofit basis. And why would it be significantly better than for profit instance?

by Anonymousreply 246December 15, 2024 1:49 PM

'We just elected a man who has consistently attacked the minimal reform his predecessor made to the insurance system.'

The key word is minimal. And what did Biden and Harris do? So you are blaming the right. And the right is blaming the left.

Luigi's murder of Brian is doing more than any politician or electorate could do. So R244 the very inconvenient truth is murder IS sometimes justified. And every single person believes in vigilante justice. It just depends what personal opinions you have on any individual case.

by Anonymousreply 247December 15, 2024 1:53 PM

R241 When the healthcare insurance lobbyists and talking heads and corporate media are all gaslighting the public and promoting private healthcare and demonizing a government universal healthcare system as ineffective and scary, of course they are going to be reluctant to change. During the 2009-2010 ACA bill haggling in congress the intention was to not just properly regulate private health insurance, but to also offer a single payer universal option. The insurance companies made sure their lackeys in congress (Joe Lieberman) killed that option.

by Anonymousreply 248December 15, 2024 1:58 PM

R246 Dear God man, you need to rid yourself of the Ronald Reagan mind-virus! It is in fact more than possible to get important things accomplished without making profits for shareholders. Also, lots of people work all their lives at vocations that don't make them rich.

Plenty of non-profit organisations offer health insurance. In fact, Minnesota banned the for-profit ones until 2017.

As for why it might be better, presumably one reason would be because it removes the incentive to increase profits not the hard way, by providing a better service than all your competitors, but the easy way, by finding a loophole to deny care to people who have already paid for it. But I'll leave the detailed debate to people with better knowledge of the US system than I

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by Anonymousreply 249December 15, 2024 2:01 PM

I’m not blaming the right or left. I’m blaming a stupid and spoiled electorate. Do you honestly not think most democratic presidents would have loved to institute substantial health reform? They haven’t failed to do so because it hasn’t occurred to them. They don’t do it because they know a spoiled an.d childish electorate makes it impossible The bloodlust this stupid killing has unleashed is every bit as stupid and deplorable as the impulses that elected Trump

It’s nice to know it’s okay to murder sometimes. I find it revolting someone sanctions this killing, especially on childish and ignorant grounds. Am I justified in killing you for being a threat to society?

by Anonymousreply 250December 15, 2024 2:02 PM

i agree

by Anonymousreply 251December 15, 2024 2:25 PM

R243, the evidence for disingenuousness that you seek is to be found in R244.

by Anonymousreply 252December 15, 2024 2:28 PM

[quote]...perhaps Gen Z Americans would be less inured to violence if something more than just thoughts and prayers had been offered to them after all the school shootings.

Moreover, there remains on record a notorious public boast by the forthcoming Commander-In-Chief. Namely, that he could stand on Fifth Avenue and shoot someone, and not lose any voters.

I'm surprised this homicidal fantasy hasn't been revived (to my knowledge) among the reams of contextualising responses to LM's action. It would be interesting to see how the President-Elect's supposed authority and influence might impact upon the unstoppable commentary around LM.

by Anonymousreply 253December 15, 2024 2:32 PM

right, as head of state he would easily be something one would aspire to, especially the long white males of the US

by Anonymousreply 254December 15, 2024 2:37 PM

[quote]Dear God man, you need to rid yourself of the Ronald Reagan mind-virus! It is in fact more than possible to get important things accomplished without making profits for shareholders. Also, lots of people work all their lives at vocations that don't make them rich.

That’s amazing! You can live in a country for 50 years and sometimes a foreigner knows the country better than you do! Since you’ve now exposed my ignorance of my own country, could please provide a list of the biggest not-for-profit insurance providers we have? (Doesn’t need to be a long list—top five will do.)

I must admit that now that I know that we can all get not-for-profit insurance , I did come up with another difficult question, but you’re really smart so I’m sure you can answer it. Why did he shoot the executive when we can all get private insurance that will allow is to get any care we want at low premiums? Was he, like me, ignorant of this option?

I get your point too about the fact that you can get unlimited care at cheap prices when the profit notice is gone . Last year (a record year) UHC earned a profit per insured of 500 dollars. Hell,I’m America that will buy weeks of denied hospitals stays or an experimental cancer treatment!

And even more amazingly, you know not only other countries but other people’s minds! I thought I had a fairly low opinion of Reagan, but you mystically sensed I love him! (I’m beginning to develop this gift too and mystically sense through the internet that you are a pedophile. Since you don’t mind exposing my secret leanings I’m sure you won’t be offended by that revelation.)

by Anonymousreply 255December 16, 2024 12:53 AM

R255 Oh mate, you started well, but your sarcasm got too overworked and exclamatory over four paragraphs, and the paedophile thing was more than a little cringey.

You asked 'why would someone offer that on a nonprofit basis?' implying the idea of a non-profit was outlandish or unworkable, or that insurance could *only* be effectively provided by for-profits (hence the Reagan remark which so riled you). I replied that there are plenty of large non-profit insurers that are offering coverage and functioning perfectly well in the US market today.... and of course, there is. There is, for example, the Kaiser Foundation Health Plan, multiple members of the Blue Cross Blue Shield Federation, Emblem Health, UPMC, and HealthFirst, to name but a few. These serve millions of members in multiple states. I would not presume to rank them for you.

Yes, I understand that a non-profit insurer is not an available option for everyone, right now. That is why there might be an argument for regulating the market to a greater or lesser extent to mandate more non-profit coverage like Minnesota used to. Below is an opinion piece from an academic arguing this approach. Of course a single-payer setup may be a better solution, and should be pursued instead , again I wouldn't try to judge. The UK NHS has its pluses and minuses, but does best at the crisis and emergency stuff. Perhaps less so at long-term preventative strategies.

But either of those would be preferable to coverage from a for-profit, I would have thought, at least without major changes in regulatory oversight.

OK? Are we chill and have we removed all the sand? Great! :)

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by Anonymousreply 256December 16, 2024 5:12 AM

No. I didn’t go too far. Your imputation of right wing views to me is disgusting. You don’t know me at al. You said it 1}. Because you’re offensive . 2) you are really stupid and simple-minded. The only reason csn imagine somebody could find this murder stupid and pointless is that I am right wing in the slightest.

I did go on at length because you didn’t know any of the things I said, did you? You know what’s truly “cringey”.(Itself a cringe-inducing term)? An uninformed moron who poses as a sanctimonious know-it-all. Got it, “mate” (also not “cringey”.).

by Anonymousreply 257December 16, 2024 8:14 AM

R257 OK, help me to understand, then.

Why did you ask me: 'Why would someone offer that [insurance] on a nonprofit basis?'

by Anonymousreply 258December 16, 2024 8:35 AM

To expose that you didn’t know what you are talking about. If it were viable to provide insurance on a non-profit basis in the US, it would have happened. And to point out the fact that providing insurance for a profit doesn’t have much to do with health outcomes. There is no system in the world that authorizes every treatment people want. Premiums would soar. Delay and denial are features of public systems as well. I personally would favor a public option, but it’s naive to think that system would eliminate denials and delays. And until we have a public system, private for-profit, for all their flaws, are extremely necessary and a life-safer. Shooting insurance executives is just a pointless gesture that will change absolutely nothing other than the lives of children who have now lost a parent. It’s not surprising that a country that elects Trump would cheer this pointless , despicable gesture rather than actually enacting public policy that would make private insurance unnecessary or optional.

by Anonymousreply 259December 16, 2024 8:52 AM

Cool, Luigi has hired Karen Agnifilo, from Legal AF, to represent him. She's connected, although don't know it's a good look that her hubby works for Diddy.

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by Anonymousreply 260December 16, 2024 8:58 AM

She thinks an insanity defense is the best strategy.

by Anonymousreply 261December 16, 2024 11:43 AM

If only the two of you would have simultaneous strokes, this thread would get back on the rails.

by Anonymousreply 262December 16, 2024 12:35 PM

[quote] If it were viable to provide insurance on a non-profit basis in the US, it would have happened.

Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha!

by Anonymousreply 263December 16, 2024 12:58 PM

Man faced Agnifilo looks like a cousin to Man Faced Cunt Kaitlan Collins.

by Anonymousreply 264December 16, 2024 1:19 PM

Luigi really needs all of us to give him daily head to relieve stress.

by Anonymousreply 265December 16, 2024 3:52 PM

I want to suck his big bull balls!

by Anonymousreply 266December 16, 2024 4:00 PM

Trump and crew will probably get rid of this, alas:

The Affordable Care Act (ACA) requires health insurance companies to spend at least 80% of premium dollars on medical care and quality improvement, and to issue rebates to customers if they don't meet this standard. This requirement is known as the Medical Loss Ratio (MLR) rule, or the 80/20 rule. The MLR rule is intended to limit the profits and administrative costs of health insurers, and to restrain premium growth.

by Anonymousreply 267December 16, 2024 5:19 PM

[quote] She thinks an insanity defense is the best strategy.

Seems like the only strategy.

by Anonymousreply 268December 16, 2024 8:27 PM

D’oh!

[quote] Accused murderer Luigi Mangione’s grandmother reportedly left tens of millions of dollars to her children and grandchildren after she died, but did so on one condition: that any grandchild receiving inheritance money not be “charged, indicted, convicted of or pleads guilty to a felony.”

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by Anonymousreply 269December 16, 2024 8:51 PM

O nonna.

by Anonymousreply 270December 16, 2024 9:21 PM

So he's broke? Thank U, next.

by Anonymousreply 271December 16, 2024 10:53 PM

R269 The grandmother died over a year ago. It shouldn't take that long to receive a payout. I highly doubt he's broke, and I'm sure his parents still support him.

by Anonymousreply 272December 17, 2024 12:30 AM

Luigi probably cums a lot. Like often and thick loads.

by Anonymousreply 273December 17, 2024 4:39 AM

Ever since Luigi entered my visual life, I've seen lots of porn with guys that have the same body type and similar looks. Mostly, they are bottoms with beefier, hairy guys as tops. When I first saw pictures of Luigi, I never imagined him as a bottom, but these porn clips have changed my mind. I love seeing my Luigi doppelgangers lying on their backs, legs in the air, cumming on their abs as they get deeply penetrated by some brawny daddy.

Yeah, I watch a lot of porn.

by Anonymousreply 274December 17, 2024 3:06 PM

The memes keep coming.

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by Anonymousreply 275December 17, 2024 3:12 PM

r274 this one's for you!

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by Anonymousreply 276December 17, 2024 3:14 PM

[quote] and I'm sure his parents still support him

Doubtful. He had a good job and a ton of degrees.

by Anonymousreply 277December 17, 2024 3:25 PM

a ton of degrees = 2

by Anonymousreply 278December 17, 2024 3:56 PM

Over analyzing any of this is useless.

Here’s the new reality:

American children, young adults & even seniors will now all solve their problems with guns.

Voting does not work, protests are of no consequence, & MANY of us are waking up to the idea that no matter how decent, moral or principled one is, you will still be denied life saving care, the ability to purchase a home, & the ability to create a family.

Luigi was the first to go all out publicly. This will happen again, and again. And if it doesn’t happen with a gun, it will happen with a knife, or a rock or with someone’s bare hands. If they can get the CEO, they’ll get the receptionist or the parking attendant.

I’m not saying I want this, nor do I support anarchy, however, our leadership have made absolutely certain that we cannot aspire to afford or get anything other than guns, and eventually, people who never considered using them for anything other than personal protection, will come to the conclusion that the gun stashed away in the gun safe can be used for something else.

We fucked up, folks, and we’re eventually going to make others pay the price for this.

What did anyone expect, when obtaining a gun is easier than obtaining medical treatment or a fucking mortgage?

by Anonymousreply 279December 17, 2024 4:28 PM

"Defies categorization"

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by Anonymousreply 280December 17, 2024 4:50 PM

The US healthcare is very good - it’s the price/cost that is absolutely fucking astronomical

by Anonymousreply 281December 17, 2024 5:04 PM

Trump is now attacking people supporting Luigi.

by Anonymousreply 282December 17, 2024 5:04 PM

R281 I respectfully beg to differ. We have some places/areas where amazing research is being done, but the majority of the system is incredibly expensive for care that is mediocre at best.

by Anonymousreply 283December 17, 2024 5:07 PM

Donald Trump, I'm sorry that you've never had a single person even compliment your looks, so you sit down on your crusty asshole and shut that dumpster cunt you call a mouth.

by Anonymousreply 284December 17, 2024 5:38 PM

Thanks for being respectful! If it was literally 1/2 the cost like it could be should be- it would be number 1 in the world or top 10

by Anonymousreply 285December 17, 2024 5:40 PM

R279 Don't blame our politicians. The voters are to blame. They keep electing Republicans who not only offer nothing, but actively revel in giving as much $ and power to the 1%. The voters allow themselves to be fear mongered every election into voting for them. This is 100% what voters vote for.

They just voted for 999 times worse than what we currently had. Voters are too lazy, ignorant, and stupid.

by Anonymousreply 286December 17, 2024 6:48 PM

[quote]Don't blame our politicians. The voters are to blame.

I reserve plenty of blame for politicians who prey on (and egg on) voters' stupidity, gullibility and bigotry.

by Anonymousreply 287December 17, 2024 7:01 PM

R287 The choices ams policies are clear. Voters choose to go with their feelings, who they want to have a beer with. Fuck them. They are get what they vote for.

by Anonymousreply 288December 17, 2024 8:02 PM

[quote]The choices ams policies are clear.

Not to the dumb and ignorant, they're not. And America is chock-full of both.

by Anonymousreply 289December 17, 2024 8:32 PM

R289 Good, they're now about to find out how fucking stupid they are. They'll now feel the real pain of their choices very clearly.

Voters love to blame the politicians they elected for doing what they elected them to do.

by Anonymousreply 290December 17, 2024 8:42 PM

In today's press conference it's revealed that Luigi's mother was contacted following her missing person's report, asked iif the hostel photo looked like her son, she said no. But the murder "might be something that she could see him doing". Yikes, not so consistent with the sweetheart image of Lui that others have painted.

by Anonymousreply 291December 17, 2024 9:19 PM

R286, I absolutely hold voters responsible too.

Am I the only one here who believes that many or even most of the working class to middle class voters went for Trump out of sheer grievance & revenge? Because I absolutely believe that many, if not most of them did, and they ALWAYS have from the moment Obama came on the scene - it just took some of longer than others to realize that YES, people voted for Trump or voted for no one because there’s always going to be a person to whom these Trumpers want to hold responsible for their bullshit.

If it’s not a black man, it’s an old white man with the formerly addicted, now sober son (while the other old man with the addicted son ALSO has felonies), or it’s the woman who is black, or is she Indian, or is she both, or is she (whatever- insert here).

It just doesn’t matter anymore who it is, why, or why not. As long as FOX News or the church tells them to hate that candidate, they do. And now the church doesn’t even have to give them directions nor does FOX. They know exactly who to hate, no questions asked - just press, “Go”.

Let them do this. Let them go as far with it as possible. ALL extremes are undesirable and eventually, every extremist will eat their own, & these fuckers are no different nor will they have a successful outcome.

by Anonymousreply 292December 17, 2024 9:22 PM

R292 Preach! Y’all are spot on. It has nothing to do with economics or they’d always vote for Democrats. It is always grievance, or revenge, or some faux outrage they pretend to care about. Republicans don’t try to hide their horrible economic agenda, and these “working class” voters still vote for them and it is no mystery why. You said it.

by Anonymousreply 293December 17, 2024 10:37 PM

He was supposed to be charged with "just" Second Degree murder, or so the pundits thought. But the authorities are now charging him with FIRST degree murder because they are calling the shooting "an act of Terrorism."

[quote] A Manhattan grand jury indicted Luigi Mangione on charges of first-degree murder, with prosecutors alleging he killed UnitedHealthcare CEO Brian Thompson "in furtherance of terrorism."

[quote] Prosecutors have also accused Mangione of second-degree murder, as well as a slew of counts related to the possession of an illegal "ghost gun" made from 3D-printed parts.

(From Business Insider story "Luigi Mangione indicted on first-degree murder charge in furtherance of terrorism")

by Anonymousreply 294December 17, 2024 10:45 PM

R292 It's being in an echo chamber of hearing only right wing slant on everything. Social media platforms, podcasts, right wing news networks. Even most independent talking heads are indebted to corporate or multi-millionaire/billionaire source of revenue, and are platforming gaslighting, grievance culture and conspiracy theories. Even those who are unpolitical go onto the bro chats and threads and this is what they have been exposed to over the last several years. If that's is all you hear every single day, you view of the world is no longer objective, it becomes skewed and warped. This is how many start looking at neighbors who are not like them as "others" and end up voting for just the type of politicians who have agendas that are actually against their own interests.

by Anonymousreply 295December 17, 2024 11:17 PM

Am a bit surprised no gay site has looked into a secret sexual relationship between Luigi Mangione and Brian Thompson.

by Anonymousreply 296December 17, 2024 11:48 PM

R295 Bingo!

And the left media shits on Democrats more than right media. I’m surprised Democrats win at all. The head winds they are up against are Cat 5 level.

by Anonymousreply 297December 17, 2024 11:55 PM

The terrorism charge is bullshit. Are not school shootings terrorism, then? Oh wait, I forgot, those are a Long Cherished American Tradition by now.

We're living in the goddamn Hunger Games.

by Anonymousreply 298December 18, 2024 2:32 AM

I love this 83 year old woman bitching about Putin and the ignorant people in her country who believe the propaganda and put up with their horrible gov't. (4 minute street interview in Russia) - she says the Soviet times were shit too but at least they gave you an apartment.

Remind you of anyone?

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by Anonymousreply 299December 18, 2024 3:14 AM

How the hell is it an act of terrorism? lol. I guess NYC has terrorist attacks every day then.

by Anonymousreply 300December 18, 2024 3:34 AM

Killing your girlfriend or boyfriend or a spouse is not an act of terrorism. Killing a corporate serial killer is.

by Anonymousreply 301December 18, 2024 7:17 AM

Sometimes, there's just no amount of sweet gronkin' that can turn a guy around.

by Anonymousreply 302December 18, 2024 7:22 AM

R10 Yeah, back problems. That must have been why I had to stunt cock for you so much with Camila.

That and the fact of your tiny cock, of course.

And no, I'm still not going to take your cherry - crying makes my dick soft.

by Anonymousreply 303December 18, 2024 7:32 AM

R12 Probably the steroid withdrawal, darling.

by Anonymousreply 304December 18, 2024 7:33 AM

Send him to me, baybee! I'll be sure to go easy on his back!

by Anonymousreply 305December 18, 2024 7:34 AM

I wonder if being rimmed makes his nipples go pointy.

by Anonymousreply 306December 18, 2024 7:49 AM

I worry about his mental state. He may feel utterly hopeless, with no way out. I hope he doesn't consider taking his own life.

by Anonymousreply 307December 18, 2024 8:42 AM

[quote] But the murder "might be something that she could see him doing".

I'm beginning to hate his family. Proper Italian families don't rat each other out, they close ranks.

Anyway this cries out for more context. Does this mean that one day, Luigi came to Sunday dinner, started talking about his new-found beliefs, and his capitalist family were deeply offended? Does it mean he started carrying a gun and practicing with it? Why even make such a vague statement?

by Anonymousreply 308December 18, 2024 11:29 AM

Let’s not lose our minds. This was INTENDED to be an act of terror by his own admission. JFC get a fucking grip. We all love Luigi, he’s hot asf, but he absolutely committed FIRST degree murder and it was an act of terror.

by Anonymousreply 309December 18, 2024 11:44 AM

[quote]Proper Italian families don't rat each other out, they close ranks.

They've been American for generations.

by Anonymousreply 310December 18, 2024 12:00 PM

R310 Do you know any Italian-American families? I do.

R309 The charges point out the stark contrast in what is considered "terror" in our oligarchy. Frightening the C-Suite class=Terror. Frightening generations of school children=Not Terror. Leading an armed insurrection against democracy=Not Terror.

That is what people are bitching about.

by Anonymousreply 311December 18, 2024 12:48 PM

If Luigi was not directly a customer of the United healthcare, it does seem like a political act and his brief manifesto supports the act as such. So the terrorism charge is not a stretch logically. I have no idea about how difficult such a charge is to prove and get a conviction. As to the comparison to school shootings, I would guess some ARE terrorism and some are not. The ones that are terrorism would be the ones where shooters go out to prove some political or moral conviction by killing citizens, complete strangers to him or her.

Dzhokhar Tsarnaev does not SEEM to have been charged and convicted of "terrorism". Rather, "using and conspiring to use a weapon of mass destruction resulting in death" and with "malicious destruction of properties resulting in death".

Again I am not an expert but specifically charging "terrorism" may differ by state laws?

Anyone know?

by Anonymousreply 312December 18, 2024 1:11 PM

Babushka lady at R299 is getting herself sent to Siberia!

by Anonymousreply 313December 18, 2024 1:19 PM

get that wop in my wap asap

by Anonymousreply 314December 18, 2024 1:25 PM

A new Emerson College poll finds that 41 percent of adults under 30 consider the killing of UnitedHealthcare CEO Brian Thompson acceptable, more than the 40 percent in that demographic who consider it unacceptable.

Overall, most voters (68%) think the actions of the killer against Thompson were unacceptable, while 17% found them acceptable.

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by Anonymousreply 315December 18, 2024 2:06 PM

[quote]Does this mean that one day, Luigi came to Sunday dinner, started talking about his new-found beliefs, and his capitalist family were deeply offended? Does it mean he started carrying a gun and practicing with it? Why even make such a vague statement?

It means my Luigi was left-handed!

by Anonymousreply 316December 18, 2024 9:59 PM

[quote] Do you know any Italian-American families? I do.

The ones in California and New England are totally American.

by Anonymousreply 317December 18, 2024 10:58 PM

Mamma Mia!

by Anonymousreply 318December 18, 2024 11:08 PM

[quote]he absolutely committed FIRST degree murder and it was an act of terror.

Thanks CORPORATE MEDIA TROLL. [bold]No not an act of terror,[/bold] he was NOT trying to put fear in the general public. In fact he was careful to say in other writings not wanting to hurt innocent bystanders.

But go ahead and keep repeating the worlds of CEO's who want everyone to think this could happen to them so they can doge the real questions of why the public hates the healthcare insurance industry and the corporate cocks that work there.

by Anonymousreply 319December 19, 2024 6:25 AM

[quote]Does this mean that one day, Luigi came to Sunday dinner, started talking about his new-found beliefs

R318 posting from several generations ago in his head. Most Italian Americans are so American at this point they don't even know what "Sunday dinner" is unless they watched a mob movie.

by Anonymousreply 320December 19, 2024 6:28 AM

R320 No bitch, I come from the Rust Belt where I was raised by clannish Italian-Americans in a town full of other clannish Italian-Americans.

by Anonymousreply 321December 19, 2024 11:25 AM

R319 STFU idiot

by Anonymousreply 322December 19, 2024 11:37 AM

r321 yeah, decades ago. Italian-Americans are pretty much just Americans at this point. Certainly in New England they blend right in with other whites. Ethnic identities are not as strong as they used to be.

by Anonymousreply 323December 19, 2024 11:45 AM

We should all focus on the many pretty guys who aren't murderers, and leave Luigi to his soon-to-be prison buddies.

by Anonymousreply 324December 19, 2024 12:04 PM

[quote] so they can doge the real questions

I resemble that remark!

by Anonymousreply 325December 19, 2024 12:38 PM

R322 is triggered.

Sorry Dear, Luigi is not a terrorist. No matter how many times corporate media tried to tell you he was. He shot one man for a very specific reason. He was not randomly firing at people. By your logic everyone who ever shot someone is a terrorist and that's simply not true.

by Anonymousreply 326December 19, 2024 2:15 PM

R326, I hate to break it to you, but… what Luigi did, and the reasons he wrote for doing it, and killing a person he never met, for the specific reason that he worked for an insurance company - all of these reasons & motive, fall under the umbrella of the meaning of terrorism.

I don’t know Luigi, I don’t know Brian Thompson, and my insurance carrier is not UHC, nor have I ever experienced issues with my insurer, however, even if I had, I still understand and know the meaning of terrorism.

I believe these CEOs who make it policy to deny care to their clients are absolutely total scum. I will never consider executing one of them, because I don’t subscribe to any ideology that justifies killing people specifically because what company they work for, or what they do at that company.

Luigi Mangione’s idealism was not a bad thing. The moment he picked a stranger to murder in cold blood due to his idealism, he became a terrorist. Had he murdered Brian Thompson for personal reasons, for example: Thompson had personally stiffed him on a business venture where lots of money had been involved, or because he had fucked Luigi’s girlfriend, then that’s not terrorism.

Do you understand the differences here?

Terrorism is all about ideology & motive, it’s NOT about how many people are killed. One does not have to even kill people to commit an act of terrorism.

Look, I absolutely understand why he did it, but I’d be a fucking idiot to not consider that Luigi is likely a very, very mentally unwell young man. He is not OK, R326. He needs help because something inside of him broke & does not work correctly.

I hope you understand that it’s not my intention to piss you off. I am however, pointing out that this young man is sick, and what he did and why he did it is absolutely unacceptable, no matter what, even if we get why he did it.

by Anonymousreply 327December 19, 2024 2:52 PM

Another vote for La Loren. She matched Angie in face, body and no tatts! Classic beauty.

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by Anonymousreply 328December 19, 2024 2:56 PM

R328, Loren was THE stunner, but that was never what her nose looked like, and wrong thread.

by Anonymousreply 329December 19, 2024 3:08 PM

i wonder which terrorist org Luigi is working for

by Anonymousreply 330December 19, 2024 3:08 PM

He waived extradition and will be flown to New York shortly. The only good thing about all of this is that we will get another new mugshot.

by Anonymousreply 331December 19, 2024 3:19 PM

None, R330.

One need not be involved with a group or an organization in order to self-radicalize & go on to commit an act of terrorism.

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by Anonymousreply 332December 19, 2024 3:21 PM

Spectre agent

by Anonymousreply 333December 19, 2024 3:25 PM

Oops!

by Anonymousreply 334December 19, 2024 3:26 PM

I love him so much!

❤️🇮🇹❤️

by Anonymousreply 335December 19, 2024 4:22 PM

It is an absolute tragedy that there hasn't been a single dick pic...I'm losing hope.

by Anonymousreply 336December 19, 2024 5:49 PM

They made a real spectacle of his perp walk in NYC, ridiculous amounts of security. He's flattered I'm sure. Rikers is out, he'll be in the Brooklyn hell hole, MDC.

by Anonymousreply 337December 20, 2024 12:59 AM

He'll be there with Diddy!

BTW, when I heard they also have some federal charges against him and the feds have the death penalty, I got worried. But handsome crime-tuber Jesse Weber says at minute 20:40 at the link, "The death penalty is not on the table."

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by Anonymousreply 338December 20, 2024 1:04 AM

Uh oh - sorry. I must have misunderstood hunky Jesse, or he backtracked. In a later video, he says there's a federal murder charge and the death penalty COULD BE on the table. Damn. Hold me, Jesseeee!!!!

minute 9:30 at link.

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by Anonymousreply 339December 20, 2024 1:50 AM

r336 Im SAYING. I really can't believe we haven't seen nudes yet. I know some bitch at the FBI has them and won't share.

by Anonymousreply 340December 21, 2024 1:15 AM

'I hope you understand that it’s not my intention to piss you off. I am however, pointing out that this young man is sick, and what he did and why he did it is absolutely unacceptable, no matter what, even if we get why he did it.'

Luigi got Anthem to change its fucking sick nasty policy which turned around in a flash. Got CEOs scared as shit and the Governer had to offer them counseling because they are widdle liddle babies with millions of dollars and need their blankets and to suck their thumbs. Luigi got companies to reveal to the country that care is denied by algorithms and agents are judged by quota denials. Not enough denials and out with the garbage.

I think it was spectacular and great what Luigi did even if it was because of mental illness. You are fucking dead wrong. Without Luigi this never would have been part of a nationwide discourse. Brian deserved his big fat corporate head blown off to hell the way every CEO who destroys the land and people's lives deserves. And that the fact that you think we should accept for decades of activism to achieve nothing tells me your opinions are unacceptable and truly fucked up. You clearly want to play nice and achieve nothing but stand in the shit of righteous do nothingness.

by Anonymousreply 341December 21, 2024 6:21 AM

NYC has around 400 - 500 murders a year. That's roughly 1.4 per day. I find it hard to believe Luigi is the only one that would be considered a terrorist.

I guess gang activity which EVERYONE is afraid of is not a form of terror then.

by Anonymousreply 342December 21, 2024 2:43 PM

One targeted murder does not a terrorist make.

Murder YES, Terrorist, NO.

Saint To some YES.

by Anonymousreply 343December 21, 2024 2:44 PM

Senseless murders all the time and that's life. A corrupt CEO gets murdered and the entire NY justice system goes into high alert to tell the world this is the most horrible murder of all.

Kill your girlfriend kill children and they are statistics but kill a rich CEO and you are John Wilkes Booth.

by Anonymousreply 344December 21, 2024 3:27 PM

Exactly r344. Thompson was a POS who was complicit in denying life-saving healthcare and causing the deaths of many, many people. But he was a rich white CEO so his being killed was just unacceptable and Luigi is being treated like a war criminal. It's so fucked up.

The pathetic piece of theater that was put on bringing Luigi back to NYC was outrageous and the public saw right through it. It made them look like a bunch of clowns.

by Anonymousreply 345December 21, 2024 3:47 PM

By "them" I mean the justice system, the NYPD, Eric Adams etc.

by Anonymousreply 346December 21, 2024 3:48 PM

Thompson and his fellow executives in the healthcare insurance policies are responsible for tens of thousands of unnecessary deaths each year. Nobody in law enforcement, the judicial system gives a shit when that happens. But when the corporate class is targeted they circle the wagons.

by Anonymousreply 347December 21, 2024 6:09 PM

Sentence him to community service - in my community.

by Anonymousreply 348December 22, 2024 8:49 PM

Prostitution is community service only in Vegas.

by Anonymousreply 349December 22, 2024 9:29 PM

Any stats on how tall he is?

by Anonymousreply 350December 22, 2024 9:55 PM

He's 5'8"

by Anonymousreply 351December 22, 2024 9:59 PM

He appears to be in the 5'10" - 5'11" range just based on people standing next to him.

by Anonymousreply 352December 23, 2024 2:17 AM

I want to send Luigi socks and underwear for Christmas, would the commissary carry such items?

by Anonymousreply 353December 23, 2024 2:29 AM

I first saw his height reported as 6’-1”, and the estimate his mom made was said to be 5’-10”. He’s almost never shorter than anyone pictured standing by him, so I personally think 6’-1” seems true.

by Anonymousreply 354December 23, 2024 2:52 AM

His cunt of a mother was off by 3" in height, and 20 pounds in weight.

by Anonymousreply 355December 23, 2024 3:00 AM

She made him use his right hand when cutting meat and he's left handed! What a trauma. This is all her fault, the BEEYATCH!!

And doesn't it help the defense that she said this was something she could see him doing? WTF???

by Anonymousreply 356December 23, 2024 4:37 AM

She dis say she didnt recognize him from the crime photos. But then she could not tell his accurate height and weight. Probably didnt know how old he was till it hit the papers. I am thinking she is not Italian, maybe just the father. Italian mothers would be all over that stuff.

by Anonymousreply 357December 23, 2024 6:10 AM

His mother's maiden name is Zannino, both her parents are Italian immigrants, and she has dual citizenship. She operates a boutique travel agency that specializes in tours of Italy.

by Anonymousreply 358December 23, 2024 6:33 AM

Probably a descendant of Lucrezia Borgia.

by Anonymousreply 359December 23, 2024 7:20 AM

We all know Luigi has a thick Italian cock with a big set of low-hangers. No doubt a big bush too.

by Anonymousreply 360December 23, 2024 7:34 AM

"The difference between Italian boys and American boys, is the Italian boys have dirty feet and clean assholes, while American boys have clean feet and dirty assholes.”, Gore Vidal

by Anonymousreply 361December 23, 2024 7:55 AM

That's because they have bidets in Italy.

by Anonymousreply 362December 23, 2024 12:21 PM

I just saw video of him being led into court today. He looks hotter than ever in a maroon sweater, head held high, a confident swagger. Mamma mia.

by Anonymousreply 363December 23, 2024 2:44 PM

He pleads not guilty.

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by Anonymousreply 364December 23, 2024 2:48 PM

the red sweater is very festive and chrsitamasy

by Anonymousreply 365December 23, 2024 2:51 PM

I don't call that sweater maroon; I'd call it burgundy or even crimson. A great color for him, especially with the white shirt.

by Anonymousreply 366December 23, 2024 2:55 PM

His raised forehead expression makes him look quizzical, a bit bemused, jaded and slightly superior.

by Anonymousreply 367December 23, 2024 3:03 PM

Lol how can he plead not guilty, he left an entire freaking manifesto lol

by Anonymousreply 368December 23, 2024 3:06 PM

He looks cute though

by Anonymousreply 369December 23, 2024 3:06 PM

[quote] His raised forehead expression makes him look quizzical, a bit bemused, jaded and slightly superior.

"What, me worry?"

by Anonymousreply 370December 23, 2024 3:09 PM

R362 Maybe. After a long hot day of traipsing about, I've actually washed my feet in a hotel bidet. In Montepulciano.

by Anonymousreply 371December 23, 2024 9:55 PM

r370, more like..."sup"

by Anonymousreply 372December 23, 2024 10:13 PM

[quote] His mother's maiden name is Zannino, both her parents are Italian immigrants

Neither of his parents is an Italian. Immigrant.

by Anonymousreply 373December 25, 2024 4:22 AM

Uh okay. Who suggested they were? The reference was to his maternal grandparents.

by Anonymousreply 374December 25, 2024 8:00 AM
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