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Is An American Tragedy by Theodore Dreiser the greatest book ever?

I'm tempted to say so!

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by Anonymousreply 44December 17, 2024 3:12 AM

It was one of the first "serious" novels I read as a teen and I couldn't put it down. A few years ago I read "The Prison Diary and Letters of Chester Gillette," whose crime inspired Dreiser; he matured a lot in prison (although he never was much of a writer) and, it is strongly implied, admitted his guilt before he was executed.

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by Anonymousreply 1December 11, 2024 7:44 AM

R1, I'll have to read that one

by Anonymousreply 2December 11, 2024 7:49 AM

It depends on your own taste. It might be the greatest book you've ever read, but some people prefer other stuff.

by Anonymousreply 3December 11, 2024 7:57 AM

I'm about to read it again

by Anonymousreply 4December 11, 2024 5:36 PM

My vote goes to Steinbeck’s East of Eden

by Anonymousreply 5December 11, 2024 5:41 PM

No.

by Anonymousreply 6December 11, 2024 6:27 PM

Try Flaubert's Sentimental Education

by Anonymousreply 7December 11, 2024 6:47 PM

R7, will do

by Anonymousreply 8December 11, 2024 8:11 PM

How did Shelly Winters get cast in this movie? She's the complete opposite of the tragic girl in the book. I mean you're rooting for Shelly to die. Monty should get a medal at the end of the film.

by Anonymousreply 9December 11, 2024 8:50 PM

How is the first film adaptation of this book?

by Anonymousreply 10December 11, 2024 9:29 PM

It's mentioned in this episode of Unsolved Mysteries.

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by Anonymousreply 11December 11, 2024 11:45 PM

I loved it and I also love Steinbeck East of Eden. And lots of others. But I can't say either was "the greatest book ever." Definitely on the list, though.

by Anonymousreply 12December 12, 2024 12:26 AM

No. Middlemarch is the best novel.

by Anonymousreply 13December 12, 2024 1:01 AM

It's a very good book, but I wouldn't even put it above all American novels, and there are tons of British and French and Russian novels better than the best American novel (which I would contend is Moby-Dick).

by Anonymousreply 14December 12, 2024 1:46 AM

It's a great novel. His novel Sister Carrie is also a great read and the two books have a number of parallels. I will always remember the line: "People like money even more than they do looks."

At times, I wish Clyde has been more cunning (and less naive) but perhaps his innocence in certain matters heightens the tragedy of the novel. The last third of the novel (concerning the trial) drags a little .

by Anonymousreply 15December 12, 2024 1:51 AM

The greatest American novel is clearly BLOOD MERIDIAN.

by Anonymousreply 16December 12, 2024 2:01 AM

Kill Kill Faster Faster

by Anonymousreply 17December 12, 2024 4:35 AM

Catcher In The Rye

by Anonymousreply 18December 12, 2024 5:53 PM

Huckleberry Finn has been touted for years as t he greatest American novel. I recently ordered Jim.. Percival Everett's book told from the perspective of the run away slave, Jim who shared the raft with Huck.

by Anonymousreply 19December 12, 2024 5:57 PM

R13 is correct. Actually I can think of lots of novels better than anything Dreiser did.

by Anonymousreply 20December 12, 2024 6:14 PM

Read “The Red and The Black” by Stendhal.

by Anonymousreply 21December 13, 2024 10:44 PM

I did, R21. yawnnnn!

by Anonymousreply 22December 13, 2024 10:48 PM

I prefer Thomas Pynchon, and this one’s about 80% shorter.

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by Anonymousreply 23December 13, 2024 11:10 PM

I visited both the cemetery where Grace Brown is buried (it’s a tiny lace, but there are signs pointing you to the poor) and the address where the factory was (each is 30-45 minutes from my home). The film is better than the book, which I’ve never made it through.

On the other hand, I live “Sister Carrie,” despite Dreiser’s sometimes leaden prose. Something in the story and characters always grabs me. And I like William Wyler’s film of it (“Carrie”) with Olivier superb as Hurstwood and Jennifer Jones well-cast as Carrie (if a little too old at the beginning).

by Anonymousreply 24December 14, 2024 2:15 AM

[quote]The greatest American novel is clearly BLOOD MERIDIAN.

Ugh. Also, 'ugh' to the movie BLOOD TOMAHAWK.

by Anonymousreply 25December 14, 2024 2:56 AM

Lonesome Dove is a great novel about the beginning of the American West. I'd put it in the top five of greatest books ever.

by Anonymousreply 26December 14, 2024 2:58 AM

R26 Have you read Centennial by Michener?

If you enjoyed Lonesome Dove, which I loved, I think you’ll really appreciate Centennial.

It focuses on the descendants of 1 man, Pasquinell, a fur trapper, and the settlement and growth of 1 town in Colorado.

The actual story starts in the late 18th century and ends in the 1970s, but the opening chapters describe the formation of the land and the animals who lived there.

The subsequent miniseries was one of the few that lived up to the book.

by Anonymousreply 27December 14, 2024 2:38 PM

I thought Truman Capote invented the True Crime Novel.

by Anonymousreply 28December 14, 2024 2:42 PM

The House of Mirth is the greatest American novel.

And for a more contemporary pick I'd choose Ragtime.

by Anonymousreply 29December 14, 2024 2:43 PM

I'd say Tolstoy is best novelist by a country mile, even George Eliot and Henry James can't match up to him.

No other novels have moved me as much as War and Peace and Anna Karenina. Tolstoy seemed to have his finger directly on the pulse of the human condition.

by Anonymousreply 30December 14, 2024 3:22 PM

[quote]Greatest book ever

OP, spoken like a true bibliophile.

by Anonymousreply 31December 14, 2024 3:26 PM

Truman got in his own way, but back when he was actually a writer he literally invented an entirely new genre with In Cold Blood. Truman was actually a very talented gifted writer, one of the greats.

by Anonymousreply 32December 15, 2024 2:24 AM

R27 Thank you! I'm going to read Centennial. I forgot how good those Michener novels are.

by Anonymousreply 33December 15, 2024 3:56 AM

Love this book, love the movie, too

by Anonymousreply 34December 15, 2024 3:58 AM

Is A Place In The Sun EXACTLY like the book?

by Anonymousreply 35December 15, 2024 4:00 AM

Of course the greatest book ever is obviously "Prime Time" by Joan Collins.

by Anonymousreply 36December 15, 2024 4:21 AM

[quote] Is A Place In The Sun EXACTLY like the book?

No.

by Anonymousreply 37December 15, 2024 4:22 AM

[quote]R36 Of course the greatest book ever is obviously "Prime Time" by Joan Collins.

How dare you.

by Anonymousreply 38December 15, 2024 5:47 AM

Well, for one thing A PLACE IN THE SUN is set 25 years later than AN AMERICAN TRAGEDY.

by Anonymousreply 39December 15, 2024 3:01 PM

R35 the book has a lot more story, the film adaptation is set in a different time and while the basic story is the same it cuts out a lot. I love the movie. I wanted so badly to throw Shelley Winters out of the boat myself, I didn't blame him at all!

Woody Allen did another version with his movie Match Point. I enjoyed that one too, but I didn't feel the animosity towards Scarlett Johansson that I felt towards Shelley Winters. In Woody's version, Jonathan Rhys Myers was a combination of ambition and Evil. Not a sympathetic character. Montgomery Clift did a better job of fleshing out his character.

by Anonymousreply 40December 15, 2024 4:10 PM

Loved MATCH-POINT, surely the best by far of Woody's films of the last 20-25 years. I thought the casting of Scarlett was great, she was not the predictably frumpy nag that Shelley was, yet she had to be eliminated for our hero to succeed. And unlike Monty, JRM did succeed, a totally surprise (and shockingly satisfying) ending.

I rewatched the film last year and it totally held up.

by Anonymousreply 41December 15, 2024 4:49 PM

Is this a mystery book?

by Anonymousreply 42December 17, 2024 3:09 AM

No. Fictionalized true crime book.

by Anonymousreply 43December 17, 2024 3:11 AM

Ok if this gets more than 5 W/W I'll read it and report back on my take.

by Anonymousreply 44December 17, 2024 3:12 AM
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