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A Gay Groom Married His Girlfriend After 7 Years Together

Samantha Greenstone and Jacob Hoff officially tied the knot.

Greenstone, 37, and Hoff, 31, took their relationship to the next level as they married on Nov. 25 in Boca Raton, Fla. during an intimate wedding ceremony. The pair spoke about their "pure love story" with the New York Times in a feature published on Dec. 6, giving backstory on their unconventional romance which they have documented with their followers on social media through the years.

“I am gay, and as a gay person, you can keep your identity as that even if your relationship doesn’t match that,” Hoff explained. “We have a monogamous relationship. It’s beyond a visual lustful connection. It’s a soulful connection.”

Both Greenstone and Hoff work as actors and first met at callbacks for Fiddler on the Roof in Escondido, Calif. in November 2015, where he first heard Greenstone's performance.

“From the lobby, I heard Samantha’s cackle at the end of the song and instantly thought whoever just made that sound is an immaculate human,” he recalled to the publication.

They both landed roles in the show and quickly developed a close friendship, which eventually blossomed into deeper feelings for one another. Greenstone noted she was "living in utter confusion" over her feelings for Hoff and went to an energy healer for advice, who claimed they "share a spiritual umbilical cord."

“There was a spark and It felt like this magnetism that was so powerful," Greenstone explained. ‘’It was like someone had found the words to explain our connection and package it in a way that made me finally understand what we had between us.”

Greenstone texted Hoff later that day and eventually confirmed that they both had deeper feelings for one another. They made their relationship official in July 2017 and got engaged in December 2023.

Since their engagement, the pair have been open about their relationship on social media and questions people have about their romance. One of the major misconceptions they have addressed is that they're in a "lavender marriage."

"A lavender marriage is when one partner is heterosexual and one partner is homosexual and the homosexual partner enters the relationship to cover up the fact that they are gay," Greenstone explained in a TikTok posted on Nov. 22.

Hoff clarified, "That's not what's going on here," noting "there's no covering up" the fact that he's gay. Instead, they explained that they're in a "mixed-orientation relationship."

In another video posted to Instagram on Aug. 27, Hoff spoke about why he decided to marry a woman despite identifying as gay, explaining, "Samantha is the person I'm connected to spiritually [and] she's my soul partner."

"I want to spend the rest of my life with her and that oftentimes transcends just plain old sexuality," he continued. "We are attracted to each other, we're intimate but it's just on a different level. It's a soulmate connection."

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by Anonymousreply 147December 18, 2024 3:15 AM

The white Tim Scott

by Anonymousreply 1December 10, 2024 9:19 PM

Is bet money that she comes from money. That ring isn’t one bought by a working regional theater actor for his similarly-employed fiancé.

by Anonymousreply 2December 10, 2024 9:21 PM

I give it 18 months—til Motel finds his Perchik

by Anonymousreply 3December 10, 2024 9:22 PM

If they're married and having sex, then he's not gay.

by Anonymousreply 4December 10, 2024 9:27 PM
by Anonymousreply 5December 10, 2024 9:30 PM

You can be gay and have sex with a woman, and still be gay. Ask the millions of closeted married (to a woman) men who are gay.

by Anonymousreply 6December 10, 2024 9:31 PM

I read their wedding article in the Sunday Times & the age difference definitely made me wonder about this union.

by Anonymousreply 7December 10, 2024 9:32 PM

" Greenstone noted she was "living in utter confusion" over her feelings for Hoff and went to an energy healer for advice, who claimed they "share a spiritual umbilical cord.""

That explains a lot. Ugh!

by Anonymousreply 8December 10, 2024 9:34 PM

How sad.

by Anonymousreply 9December 10, 2024 9:37 PM

Does anyone know how to get vomit out of a fine raw-silk shirt? It's quite fresh.

Or I'll just send the cleaning bill to the proud couple as a wedding gift.

Excuse me. It's coming again.

by Anonymousreply 10December 10, 2024 9:47 PM

Oh wow. If he can do it, I can do it. There are men stuck in these situations that probably hate it more than I would.

by Anonymousreply 11December 10, 2024 10:03 PM

R4 I took:

[quote]we're intimate but it's just on a different level

to mean they're not having sex. Probably just hugging on the sofa.

by Anonymousreply 12December 10, 2024 10:07 PM

Exhausting navel gazers.

by Anonymousreply 13December 10, 2024 10:12 PM

R6 If they can get it up for a woman, they are bi, not gay ,

by Anonymousreply 14December 10, 2024 10:17 PM

R14 You're a fool and you must be a creature of the 70's.

by Anonymousreply 15December 10, 2024 10:19 PM

R14 is correct.

by Anonymousreply 16December 10, 2024 10:21 PM

Ha! Gay hubby sourced a great looking wedding ring.

by Anonymousreply 17December 10, 2024 10:21 PM

18 months? I bet a lot on DL would love to have a soulmate that lasts 18 months. And that would sound as happy as these two do.

Remember when it comes to love and LLRs DL is the most depressing and failure prone forum in the world. Nothing but a flow of threads bemoaning the lack of love, no one to depend on, no one to fuck, no one to share expenses with, just alone and sad.

Good Luck to these two

by Anonymousreply 18December 10, 2024 10:25 PM

This isn’t the first story of “gay” men marrying women. There are couple other stories like Michael Barbaro married his female co-worker shortly after his divorce. There was another story of a gay guy that married a women who he wanted to co parent with.

Maybe sexuality isn’t black and white like the gay activist like to make it.

by Anonymousreply 19December 10, 2024 10:29 PM

Handjobs and maybe oral sex on special occasions, R12.

by Anonymousreply 20December 10, 2024 10:35 PM

He’s a big deal on TicToc. Her not so much.

by Anonymousreply 21December 10, 2024 10:38 PM

R15 please explain

by Anonymousreply 22December 10, 2024 10:39 PM

She can have him.

by Anonymousreply 23December 10, 2024 10:40 PM

The girlfriend is his gravy train.

by Anonymousreply 24December 10, 2024 10:42 PM

whatever works. as long as no one is being tricked into anything and they are both consenting adults. I have a few women friends that I think would be an amazing partner and I would love to raise children with, but have no interest physically (romantically yes) - and I think for some women that would be OK. I just don't approve of the guys that marry and remain closeted and treat the woman like she's a prop in their movie. It prevents her from finding someone who will love her the way everyone deserves and wants....

by Anonymousreply 25December 10, 2024 10:43 PM

I mean, I kind of get it.

by Anonymousreply 26December 10, 2024 10:45 PM

[quote] He’s a big deal on TicToc. Her not so much.

He's seem like someone who would fun be friends with and hang out with at parties. She seems like a really bland boring basic white girl who is nothing special.

by Anonymousreply 27December 10, 2024 10:48 PM

[quote] “From the lobby, I heard Samantha’s cackle at the end of the song and instantly thought whoever just made that sound is an immaculate human,” he recalled to the publication.

Yeah, he doesn't sound like a tiresome, attention seeking twat at all.

by Anonymousreply 28December 10, 2024 11:04 PM

If they just hadn't gone public with it....

by Anonymousreply 29December 10, 2024 11:06 PM

Nothing quite like patterning your life just like an episode of Sex and the City.

by Anonymousreply 30December 10, 2024 11:20 PM

I mean as long as they're happy, I just hope they can still sleep with others. Sex may bot be everything but it's important

by Anonymousreply 31December 10, 2024 11:28 PM

R19 Jack Wrangler out and about gay porn star from the 70s and 80s famously married his apparent soul mate singer Margaret Whitting, who was also 20 years his senior. I thought they were cute and you could tell how much they loved each other.

by Anonymousreply 32December 10, 2024 11:33 PM

[quote] This isn’t the first story of “gay” men marrying women

Stephen Daldry

by Anonymousreply 33December 10, 2024 11:37 PM

So are they saying that a gay guy just has to meet the right woman (aka "soulmate") to go straight, right?

by Anonymousreply 34December 10, 2024 11:37 PM

The only upside to this bizarre and highly unbelievable story is the millions of straight incels who will seethe and punch air over the reality that even the gay guys are taking "their wimminz!"

by Anonymousreply 35December 10, 2024 11:38 PM

R35 that seems more like your own fantasy than anything

by Anonymousreply 36December 10, 2024 11:41 PM

Oy.

by Anonymousreply 37December 10, 2024 11:44 PM

r31, the story in the OP quotes him as saying they're in a monogamous relationship. I, too, think WTF, but the claim seems to be no sex with others.

by Anonymousreply 38December 10, 2024 11:46 PM

Someone is very jealous…

by Anonymousreply 39December 10, 2024 11:46 PM

[quote]Sex may bot be everything but it's important

r31 It's not important for everyone.

by Anonymousreply 40December 10, 2024 11:50 PM

No one is jealous of this guy.

by Anonymousreply 41December 10, 2024 11:52 PM

Why does his mouth smell like dick all the time?

by Anonymousreply 42December 11, 2024 12:28 AM

[quote]I have a few women friends that I think would be an amazing partner and I would love to raise children with

Same, R25. I've had some really heart-centered strong feelings for a few lovely women, women that I just felt loved and accepted by, who made me laugh, who shared my views and there was a strong compatibility there. The companionship would have been great, satisfying, comforting. The lack of physical attraction/sex a historical dealbreaker...but as I age, with a painful failed marriage under my belt, I feel that the idea of companionship and compatibility of personalities, that comfort, warmth and humor, now trump the physical stuff for me. (Not that I'm looking.)

No regrets for me, but I weirdly do get it. It'd be like marrying your best friend that you just absolutely adore. Tony Perkins and Berry Berenson had such a marriage (although not remotely monogamous on his end). Good luck to them both, I reckon.

by Anonymousreply 43December 11, 2024 12:31 AM

And you wonder why we hold you lumpen cows in utter contempt.🤣

by Anonymousreply 44December 11, 2024 12:37 AM

Hope springs eternal

by Anonymousreply 45December 11, 2024 12:39 AM

r43 That sounds sweet, and I can sort of understand the sexual matter being a non issue since it's not important to me, specifically. What I don't understand is the purpose of getting married? Why not just be live-in companions? What is the benefit of marriage? Larger tax breaks and spousal benefits?

Getting married makes no sense, to me, in general. But getting married to someone that belongs to the gender you're not attracted to makes even less sense.

by Anonymousreply 46December 11, 2024 12:41 AM

I’m a DLer, but I still for the life of me can’t understand why you marry a woman if you couldn’t please her or want to see her naked. I literally had an ex like this and when he told me, I explained how I felt bad she wasn’t getting her needs met. He clearly had no idea what to do, even if he wanted to. I should have taken that for a warning. Switching teams did him no favors.

by Anonymousreply 47December 11, 2024 12:44 AM

[quote] So are they saying that a gay guy just has to meet the right woman (aka "soulmate") to go straight, right?

That's why this story is so infuriating to me.

It perpetuates that horrible fucking stereotype that is completely FALSE.

by Anonymousreply 48December 11, 2024 12:53 AM

[quote]You can be gay and have sex with a woman, and still be gay.

Uh, no R6. A "gay" man who has sex with females is bisexual - not gay. Gay men have sex only with males.

by Anonymousreply 49December 11, 2024 12:57 AM

This sounds like some bullshit movie you'd see on the Hallmark Channel.

by Anonymousreply 50December 11, 2024 1:00 AM

The Anastacia sunglasses fooled me.

by Anonymousreply 51December 11, 2024 1:03 AM

[quote]Stephen Daldry

He played a bit coy about the nature of their union at first but eventually acknowledged they're just close friends who married for practical reasons (parenthood, health insurance).

by Anonymousreply 52December 11, 2024 1:18 AM

Gorgeous guy, but he dresses like an idiot.

by Anonymousreply 53December 11, 2024 1:22 AM

Married his fag hag. That's what this is.

by Anonymousreply 54December 11, 2024 1:23 AM

[quote] I have a few women friends that I think would be an amazing partner and I would love to raise children with, but have no interest physically (romantically yes)

Huh?

by Anonymousreply 55December 11, 2024 1:28 AM

A couple of posters remarked on the ring. I don't see what's impressive about it.

In the middle, there's an odd-shaped (not round, not oval), medium-sized (for a non-celebrity) diamond. Surrounded by small diamonds.

by Anonymousreply 56December 11, 2024 1:30 AM

Eldergays out there, wouldn't you say this was what the late 60s was all about?

And, if you stayed together through the years, great

And if you went your separate ways, that was great too.

As was stated above, why the need to marry? That was for your parents generation.

The number of couples from that era who have stayed together without a marriage certificate is significant ...at least I think so.

by Anonymousreply 57December 11, 2024 2:05 AM

I'd really need to see them both in a production of Fiddler before I weigh in on this matter.

by Anonymousreply 58December 11, 2024 2:07 AM

I’ve been fantasizing about marrying an immigrant lesbian so she can stay in the country.

It’s just that I can’t share a bed or living space. I work weird hours so we could flip each other the bird as we passed one another.

by Anonymousreply 59December 11, 2024 2:13 AM

Whatever works!

by Anonymousreply 60December 11, 2024 2:15 AM

[Quote]spiritual umbilical cord

New in 2025: consciously spiritual abortion kits.

by Anonymousreply 61December 11, 2024 2:18 AM

R46 That's very true Mao, you're right -- why not just be live-in companions? I hadn't even thought of that. Maybe they are religious, or maybe it seems romantic. They are young, or at least he is. Maybe he is doing it to appease his parents?

by Anonymousreply 62December 11, 2024 4:37 AM

I mean if they can have sex on the side (to fulfill that side), but just be married for legal end of life decisions and financial --- I guess. It is wrong for "People" to promoting this. Because so many gay men have fought against this. Very tone deaf.

by Anonymousreply 63December 11, 2024 4:53 AM

It's for sure weird to see this in People. However, the guy didn't say "I've had conversion therapy and I"m no longer gay, y'all!" He says "I am gay. We are differently oriented, sexually. And yet, we love each other and have this inexplicable connection, and we want to spend our lives together as companions," (I'm paraphrasing.) I feel that this is different than saying "I've disowned my own gayness in order to fulfill God/society/my parents' plan for me." It's just a human interest story. I don't think it deconstructs all of the gains gay men have made in the past 50 years. It's just a little snippet of a story.

Having said that, I don't understand the monogamy assertion. If this is not a sexual relationship but rather a marriage of friendship and shared platonic goals, why the monogamy? They say this is not a lavender marriage, but without sex it sure seems to amount to some variation of lavender.

by Anonymousreply 64December 11, 2024 5:13 AM

I immediately thought that this is for kids. She wants 100% Jewish children. She's 31, no one's come along besides her bestie. It's perfect. She gets her kids and a partner or co-parent if they divorce, who makes her laugh.

by Anonymousreply 65December 11, 2024 5:30 AM

R6 They know where the good head game is at ;)

by Anonymousreply 66December 11, 2024 5:41 AM

[quote] Gay Groom Married His Girlfriend

I thought this thread was about Nico Tortorella and Bethany Meyers.

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by Anonymousreply 67December 11, 2024 5:49 AM

At least there’s no fighting over who gets to sleep on the wet spot.

by Anonymousreply 68December 11, 2024 5:52 AM

They're fucking? I thought he was outright admitting that he's gay, she's straight, but they love each other and want to be life companions.

by Anonymousreply 69December 11, 2024 5:54 AM

From article:

[quote]"A lavender marriage is when one partner is heterosexual and one partner is homosexual and the homosexual partner enters the relationship to cover up the fact that they are gay," Greenstone explained in a TikTok posted on Nov. 22.

Wrong. Both partners in the fake marriage can be gay - like Janet Gaynor and Adrian were. In fact, I think that’s how it usually is - because aside from this loser bride, what straight person wants to marry a gay person?

I mean… [italic]why?

by Anonymousreply 70December 11, 2024 6:04 AM

[quote]R31 I mean as long as they're happy, I just hope they can still sleep with others. Sex may not be everything but it's important.

They claim to be monogamous. So I guess they’re both giving up on a sex life.

by Anonymousreply 71December 11, 2024 6:06 AM

R15 Okay, dummy

by Anonymousreply 72December 11, 2024 9:23 AM

[quote]first met at callbacks for Fiddler on the Roof in Escondido, Calif

One of the saddest things I have read in years.

by Anonymousreply 73December 11, 2024 9:27 AM

Don't knock Community Theater, R73.

Not everyone can make it to Broadway.

by Anonymousreply 74December 11, 2024 10:12 AM

Fag marries hag. Thread closed.

by Anonymousreply 75December 11, 2024 10:46 AM

This will end in tears...to his rectum.

by Anonymousreply 76December 11, 2024 10:48 AM

I've known several fey, Jewish guys who got married/produced offspring based on the terms and conditions of their trust funds and inheritances. Marry another Jew, get a house and a free wedding, fart out a kid, get a million dollar bonus, pre-paid bar mitzvahs and college. Now, how much sense does this make?

. Seriously, fuck the NYT for not asking the most obvious, fucking questions. Where's the interview with the pool boy and her tennis coach?

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by Anonymousreply 77December 11, 2024 11:12 AM

Florida.

by Anonymousreply 78December 11, 2024 11:42 AM

Humiliating for the chick and this psycho is probably just after her money.

by Anonymousreply 79December 11, 2024 11:48 AM

I love my Stanford, but you know he is a FRUIT 🍎

by Anonymousreply 80December 11, 2024 12:42 PM

7 years?

Many would be happy with 7 months. Others 7 weeks. And some look back on the love of their life the 7 days spent with someone they met on vacation years ago .

For others it’s a 7 minute clip from their fav porn.

To each their own.

by Anonymousreply 81December 11, 2024 1:17 PM

I managed 40 years with the love of my life.

by Anonymousreply 82December 11, 2024 1:22 PM

R43 I wonder if Perkins and Grover Dale had some kind of pact to go straight. Both married women two years after they broke up.

by Anonymousreply 83December 11, 2024 2:14 PM

This also happened with infamous man hating feminist Andrea Dworkin6 who married her male best friend. In this instance though, they were both gay.

by Anonymousreply 84December 11, 2024 3:53 PM

Andrea Dworkin wasn't a real lesbian or even bi. Just a "political lesbian."

by Anonymousreply 85December 11, 2024 3:54 PM

I'm gay, gay, gay and I was once married to a woman. Women never interested me sexually or emotionally and yet I was married to one because of social pressure. I was gay before, while I was married to her and after. I always lusted after men, never looked at women and never found them attractive, but the pressure to be straight was so intense in my own head that I made myself have sex with her. Since I was monogamous and I needed sex I sought her out for sex only because she was there, so on the surface it seemed that I was at least bisexual. But I was not, and the fact that I liked orgasming doesn't mean that I was enjoying what I was forcing myself to do. After our divorce, I didn't have and would never have sex with a woman again. I felt free to be myself and today don't think of that marriage as bisexuality but as me having taken the wrong turn. Thank God I found my way out.

So to anyone who says "If you had sex with a woman you're bisexual" I say, eat this.

by Anonymousreply 86December 11, 2024 6:32 PM

R86 the life of a bi man., Brave to come forward on your previous use of pussy.

by Anonymousreply 87December 11, 2024 6:40 PM

How long ago were you married to this woman, R86? And how old were you when succumbing to the pressure you perceived to be married?

by Anonymousreply 88December 11, 2024 8:33 PM

What is a good one word definition that can be used to describe someone who willingly and of their own free will and with a nice hard-on has sex with men and woman.

I bet there is one word that describes this behavior R86. ?

by Anonymousreply 89December 11, 2024 8:45 PM

R88 I was 22 and was married 3 miserable years. I wanted to die all the time I was married. It wasn't until I fell in love with a man that I realized what I farse my life was. The idiot at R87 is either uncomfortable respecting other people's self identities or doesn't have enough brain cells to understand it.

R89 Yes: GAY.

by Anonymousreply 90December 11, 2024 9:26 PM

R90 don’t feel ashamed from having had an active sex life with your lovely female wife. No matter your guilt and angst at the time. That pussy felt good.

You are a good example why this never ending obsession with labels is so fucking stupid.

But I do have to disagree with you a man fucking a woman is not a gay act . Human yes, horney likely, but gay no.

by Anonymousreply 91December 11, 2024 9:52 PM

[quote] Since I was monogamous and I needed sex I sought her out for sex only because she was there

r86 That's pretty fucked up, tbh. You basically only used her for sex like an object. Is she good, now? I mean...damn.

by Anonymousreply 92December 11, 2024 10:53 PM

Boca Raton?? Money is blind and obviously celibate

by Anonymousreply 93December 11, 2024 10:58 PM

"If you had sex with a woman AND LIKED IT, you're bisexual"

by Anonymousreply 94December 11, 2024 11:00 PM

R92 Yes, it was fucked up. Nobody wins in a repressed society where people can't be who they are.

by Anonymousreply 95December 12, 2024 12:54 AM

Ultimately, YOU don't get to define other people's sexuality, THEY do.

by Anonymousreply 96December 12, 2024 1:00 AM

R83 In Perkins' case, he had a lifelong desire to be a father -- something impossible for openly gay men of that era. Marrying a woman was the only way to achieve fatherhood back then.

by Anonymousreply 97December 12, 2024 1:04 AM

So a gay Jew marries his Jewish faghag because her clock is ticking (37 already!!!) and he wants kids too but both want the kids to be Jewish. Both of their parents want grandkids ASAP.

What do I win?

This puzzle wasn't as hard as I thought.

by Anonymousreply 98December 12, 2024 1:05 AM

[Quote]Probably just hugging on the sofa.

A couple of childish twits trying to pretend reality isn't real, which both of them will tire of swiftly.

by Anonymousreply 99December 12, 2024 1:06 AM

[Quote]YOU don't get to define other people's sexuality, THEY do.

Are you new here, Scoldey McScoldface.

by Anonymousreply 100December 12, 2024 1:08 AM

And what’s WRONG with this union!??

by Anonymousreply 101December 12, 2024 1:14 AM

r95 You know what, at least you own your bullshit. Respect.

And I can't really talk. I 100% did similar with past boyfriends knowing damn well I was a lesbian and just hated myself. I used them to appear "normal." That's no better and I'm not proud of it. But you're correct. No one wins in societies and cultures poisoned with bigotry.

by Anonymousreply 102December 12, 2024 1:16 AM

He looks like he's going to wear a fake nose while a-huntin' some insurance bear.

by Anonymousreply 103December 12, 2024 1:17 AM

I called him to Datalounge's attention a few months ago. Anyways, I hate them both. Not really, but his content is lame and boring. Theater people pretending to be witty.

by Anonymousreply 104December 12, 2024 1:29 AM

[Quote]the fact that I liked orgasming doesn't mean that I was enjoying what I was forcing myself to do

MARY!

by Anonymousreply 105December 12, 2024 1:38 AM

[Quote]It wasn't until I fell in love with a man that I realized what I farse my life was

Oh, dear.

by Anonymousreply 106December 12, 2024 1:40 AM

R98 here - so - it's no surprise that they married in Boca - so grandparents can be involved.

This is a shidduch with a twist.

Look - they love each other and want to have kids and want a good home. Now that they're married - BOTH sides will shower them with money and other things so they can get their grandkids.

If they want an open marriage on the side - people do that regardless of the arrangement. Straight people in marriages cheat ALL THE TIME. Gay people are just honest about it.

It's not the worst thing I've ever read. They will be fine.

by Anonymousreply 107December 12, 2024 3:30 AM

[italic]But what about the children?!

by Anonymousreply 108December 12, 2024 3:34 AM

“Concerned Tee” ?

Oh dear.

CONCERNED TEAM SCHOOLYARD BULLIES MOM

by Anonymousreply 109December 12, 2024 3:36 AM

[quote] But I do have to disagree with you a man fucking a woman is not a gay act . Human yes, horney likely, but gay no.

The poster wasn’t claiming that it was a gay act. This is the whole I jerked off (fucked myself) with my hand so I must be “handsexual” argument.

Just because another human is involved doesn’t mean they aren’t just some object. Does using a fleshlight change your sexual orientation? No.

by Anonymousreply 110December 12, 2024 5:02 AM

Certainly didn’t work out very well for a certain Mr. Chris Burroughs.

by Anonymousreply 111December 12, 2024 6:28 AM

R98 I didn't read the whole article. I've seen them (mostly him) on TikTok. Did he end up converting to Judaism? She is Jewish, but he was not although he could easily "pass". He did mention on TikTok that he was considering converting.

by Anonymousreply 112December 12, 2024 8:45 AM

R86 is just a bi-guy concerned about how he self identified, although no one else cares, that thinks a warm pussy is better than jacking off. That is without a doubt a majority opinion in this country.

by Anonymousreply 113December 12, 2024 11:30 AM

R113, I would agree, but as a somewhat funny looking, mildly retarded self-loathing gay I would have followed his path through the closet - if it had been presented.

When I stopped wishing I was straight, I could identify as gay. However, in the time of AIDS I did retardedly believe that bisexual guys were less likely to carry HIV because they are partly heterosexual. (My thinking was they were 50% less likely to carry HIV). Yeah, please follow that stupidity every step of the way. That stupidity was compounded by the, “He’s a bottom; his girlfriend has everything covered but his bhole.”

by Anonymousreply 114December 12, 2024 5:18 PM

Obviously if it works for them, no one else should care, but I couldn't do it myself.

I'm not even slightly bisexual in that I've never had even the remotest sexual attraction to any woman. I have plenty of female friends but I can't ever imagine living with any of them as a partner, even if they were fully aware I was gay. Plus it would stop both of us finding partners, which I think would make me miserable long term.

by Anonymousreply 115December 13, 2024 9:42 AM

That’s a $200 Etsy ring

by Anonymousreply 116December 13, 2024 10:35 AM

They should combine their last names and be the Hoffstones

by Anonymousreply 117December 13, 2024 1:28 PM

Can't wait for the Lifetime movie on their life.

by Anonymousreply 118December 14, 2024 4:35 PM

The last woman I'd marry would be my fag hag. Christ, the torture!

by Anonymousreply 119December 14, 2024 11:37 PM

Pussyfuckers are not gay, they are straight or bisexual. Didn't R25 said he was romantically interested in some woman? Well dude you are not gay. I hope you aren't self deluding yourself into claiming you're gay. And yes pussyfucker at R86 you are bisexual as well.

by Anonymousreply 120December 15, 2024 7:41 AM

This guy said on TIktok (where he is very active) that he is physically intimate with Samantha.

by Anonymousreply 121December 15, 2024 7:43 AM

Well, I’d hope so. She should get SOMETHING out of it!

by Anonymousreply 122December 15, 2024 7:49 AM

[quote]I read their wedding article in the Sunday Times & the age difference definitely made me wonder about this union.

Age difference? That is what makes you "wonder about this union"?

She is 37, he is 31, you think 6 years for people in their 30s is a significant number, R7?

I'd say you had to overlook a lot of rather complex and/or ridiculous compromise of every other stripe but age to hit on that factor.

by Anonymousreply 123December 15, 2024 9:00 AM

[quote]“From the lobby, I heard Samantha’s cackle at the end of the song and instantly thought whoever just made that sound is an immaculate human,”

Love at first cackle.

And anyone who refers to another of his species as "a [insert adjective] human" is a fucked up mess - if anyone had the least doubt.

by Anonymousreply 124December 15, 2024 9:06 AM

[quote]“From the lobby, I heard Samantha’s cackle at the end of the song and instantly thought whoever just made that sound is an immaculate human,”

“cackle” and “immaculate” don’t naturally go together, for me (?)

by Anonymousreply 125December 15, 2024 9:12 AM

Most straight 31-yo men would not marry a 37-yo woman. First of all, that’s against statistics. Second, the woman’s childbirthing years are closing.

by Anonymousreply 126December 15, 2024 10:18 AM

Does her resemblance to Ernest Borgnine factor in this attraction at all?

by Anonymousreply 127December 15, 2024 10:23 AM

Mmmm, well, I think a lot of straight men (like half) would be just fine not having kids. Less expense, and they don’t have share the partner’s attention.

It’s women who yearn for children more than men.

by Anonymousreply 128December 15, 2024 10:25 AM

^^ re:

[quote]r126 Most straight 31-yo men would not marry a 37-yo woman. First of all, that’s against statistics. Second, the woman’s childbirthing years are closing.

by Anonymousreply 129December 15, 2024 10:26 AM

A lot of gay men are simps for straight women or women in general so there's that.

by Anonymousreply 130December 15, 2024 10:46 AM

r126 No one really wants kids anymore; neither men or women. Those things are expensive and require way too much of your time and attention.

Also, who wants to put up with this?

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by Anonymousreply 131December 15, 2024 10:00 PM

So what happened to his attraction to men?

by Anonymousreply 132December 15, 2024 10:24 PM

R6, those men are bisexual.

by Anonymousreply 133December 15, 2024 10:28 PM

[quote] Straight people in marriages cheat ALL THE TIME. Gay people are just honest about it.

Well, not this bitch. He claims they're in a monogamous relationship. No doubt a lie, and it would be so much better if he just admitted it rather than playing inane word games about their "soul connection" and how deeply spiritual and evolved this whole fucking nonsense is.

by Anonymousreply 134December 15, 2024 10:40 PM

I'm about to drop a theory that'll piss half of DL off:

Maybe he's biromantic and asexual and she's heteroromantic and asexual. In other words, neither one of them care about sex but both want a romantic/emotional connection with a partner of the opposite sex.

I'll see myself out.

by Anonymousreply 135December 15, 2024 10:44 PM

She may be his soul mate—but there’s a name for that already: Fag Hag

by Anonymousreply 136December 15, 2024 11:45 PM

R135, I'm not mad at your theory, but do you feel he is asexual?

by Anonymousreply 137December 16, 2024 7:37 AM

No, he looks gay. I’m not sensing that sort of neutrality. I’m guessing she opens legs and he runs.

by Anonymousreply 138December 16, 2024 11:08 AM

Mao is cute!

by Anonymousreply 139December 16, 2024 1:40 PM

Looking through their Instagrams, I think they're being honest when they say their sex life is active and monogamous. Their relationship seems more Gigi Gorgeous/Nats Getty than Mark Harris/Martha Raye.

by Anonymousreply 140December 16, 2024 2:04 PM

I wonder who told her she needed to accept less.

by Anonymousreply 141December 16, 2024 6:08 PM

Have we considered she may be Trans?

by Anonymousreply 142December 17, 2024 10:38 AM

Codependency issue + no dude will touch the guy = this situation here.

by Anonymousreply 143December 17, 2024 4:11 PM

She looks like a man, tf is goin on with "her" jawline?

by Anonymousreply 144December 18, 2024 2:23 AM

The guy above who was once a 22 year old gay married to a woman, types chillingly. Not one single mention of the ex wife as a person whom he terribly wronged.

by Anonymousreply 145December 18, 2024 2:31 AM

[quote] Most straight 31-yo men would not marry a 37-yo woman. First of all, that’s against statistics. Second, the woman’s childbirthing years are closing.

They will probably hire a surrogate if she wants kids.

by Anonymousreply 146December 18, 2024 2:46 AM

R146 you mean a stud? He won’t be fucking her.

by Anonymousreply 147December 18, 2024 3:15 AM
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