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This video is why I've given up on the Dems

They KNEW how to fix this. They had a commission investigate this after the 2016 loss. They issued a report. The DNC chose not to follow it. This video is eight years old, and it still applies, and it talks where all that donation money was spent and where.

It's not about left vs. right anymore. This is about up vs. down.

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by Anonymousreply 13December 12, 2024 10:17 AM

Good luck fucking yourself

by Anonymousreply 1December 10, 2024 5:13 PM

We've fucked ourselves for 10 years now. Those top 5 consultants who get all the DNC money LOVE people like you, r1. I'll never vote Republican, but the Dems are fucking themselves. They don't need me to do that.

by Anonymousreply 2December 10, 2024 5:16 PM

R2 absolutely right. That shit is absolutely insane. 5 fucking consultants getting all bank and still losing elections.

by Anonymousreply 3December 10, 2024 5:26 PM

Corporate Dems bump

by Anonymousreply 4December 12, 2024 12:25 AM

Dems Dems Dems Dems

by Anonymousreply 5December 12, 2024 6:33 AM

Corporate Dems, love. You can hate Trump and hate this donor-driven bullshit at the same time.

by Anonymousreply 6December 12, 2024 8:10 AM

Cough, Cough, BULLLLSHIT! You could have raised 5 Billion dollars and Dems would have lost. Not about the money, America wanted a daddy figure who ill cheat, lie, break the law, insult everyone and say it's for you I did this. This is who America is, stop lying to yourselves with " if only the Dems were more ethical" BS.

by Anonymousreply 7December 12, 2024 8:47 AM

Your late night interpretation is foolish crap. Nobody mentioned ethics. The superdonor class and overpaid consultants loves you for bending the knee.

by Anonymousreply 8December 12, 2024 8:51 AM

You lack comprehension skills R8. That woman is basically saying all the money was spent wrong on a hand full of people. Sure, but that's an ethics issue, not the real issue as to why the Democrats lost this time. MAGA is MAGA. That's the fact that cant be overcome with proper or ethical spending of cash. Her same rant does not explain Biden's win in 2020.

by Anonymousreply 9December 12, 2024 9:16 AM

It's a strategic issue. They paid for bad advice that didn't deliver. Twice.

by Anonymousreply 10December 12, 2024 9:22 AM

Also: ethics is about making good moral decisions. This is about ossification of thought leadership and not being able to let go of your cronies when their services aren't called for.

by Anonymousreply 11December 12, 2024 9:25 AM

[quote]It's a strategic issue. They paid for bad advice that didn't deliver. Twice.

But it delivered once after it was initially said they were the problem. It was a success after Hillary, putting Biden into office so it's really a wash. Could have easily gone the other way with Kamala with such a close race. So the point is moot. Now if the Dems failed 3 times in a row, they you would have a point.

by Anonymousreply 12December 12, 2024 10:15 AM

Covid put Biden into office. People wanted stability, and they're also too busy to be deep in the issues and dumb. They'll regret Trump again, but not until the GOP takes their pound of flesh. This isn't just about winning elections. It's about always being on the defensive since Reagan, letting the GOP run these multi-decade strategies and win.

by Anonymousreply 13December 12, 2024 10:17 AM
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