They got him.

A man is being held for questioning in connection with the killing of a health insurance executive last week, according to three law enforcement officials briefed on the investigation.

The man was identified based on a tip from someone who spotted him in a McDonald’s restaurant, one of the officials said, and is being held in Altoona, Pa. One of the law enforcement officials said that the man had a gun, a silencer and false identification cards similar to those they believe the killer used in New York.

New York police investigators were on their way to Altoona, about 280 miles from the city, according to one of the other law enforcement officials.

Sure sounds like it. Not many of us ride low-key on a cheap bus carrying a gun, a silencer, and multiple false IDs.

Paywall

R3–The relevant information is in r2. The rest is just old news

In r1

Biden wasting tax payer dollars on this. Evil old fool.

You're assuming this is going to go somewhere.

Right. It could just be a coincidence that a guy who looks like the killer was seen on a bus heading out of NYT and was found carrying the murder weapon and fake IDs.

Well that's disappointing.

So common.

It's not him.

Is he swarthy and foreign-looking?

Or does he merely have a tan?

Proof that beauty AND brains rarely go together.

Can I get out this fucking pond now?

Is it Shawn Mendes?

“I’m just a patsy.”

McDonald's screws us all over, again.

Honestly, he's very lucky he wasn't killed during his arrest.

He's an American hero.

He is not.

The elderly person who ID'd him can probably claim the reward. I hope it was the shooter's grandpa.

He shoulda listened to us!

We told him how to ditch the gun and where, what yo do and where to go next.

Shit, we even had a list of the next (suggested) targets!

R22 apparently it was a tipster in the McDonald's where he went to eat. Tipster thought he looked like the guy in photos. So... he looks like the suspect, and it turned out he's carrying several fake IDs and a gun and a silencer. Odds seem pretty high.

See? This pisses me off. I mean. WTF did he have the stuff with him? Was he on the hunt for another target?

I'll contribute to his legal defense. He deserves a fucking medal.

Fuck McDonald’s. First price gouging, then e Coli, now they snitch. Burger King wouldn’t snitch.

The McDonald's snitch should be named and shamed.

[quote] [R22] apparently it was a tipster in the McDonald's where he went to eat.

THIS is why I don't eat McDonald's.

Should have gone to Chick-Fil-A.

More evidence that we’re reliving the ‘30s.

Wonder if he tired out and just wanted to be caught. Traveling on bus when "suspect thought to be traveling on bus" was in the news... not changing his appearance... carrying a gun... his NYC getaway was so quick and slick, and then this.

Aftermath disguise planning surely wasn't beyond him. Different coloured winter top not hoody, baseball cap, non-script glasses. Geek, not slick urban killer. Still, unless there's a post-modern Jack Ruby hovering, the trial will be unmissable.

He's going to want to make sure he is heard

He’s probably emotionally exhausted. He put a lot of thought and effort into the murder — but then what was he going to do? Go back to a job? Realize Thompson was the tip of the iceberg and somehow gather himself to try it a second time?

He dropped a bomb into his own life and I doubt that the thought of people gleefully enjoying it online can really sustain him for long.

I’m reminded of a time a guy was harassing me on a bus packed with commuters. He was obviously mentally deficient — wearing a helmet, babbling nonsensical shit — but he was also a lot bigger than I am, so I just shouted into his face to LEAVE ME ALONE. The bus was dead silent from then until his stop, and when he got off everyone began shifting in their seats and chattering.

I said, very clearly and very loudly, “AND NO ONE SAID A WORD WHEN HE WAS ON THE BUS.” Froze those chickenshit bystanders right in their seats. All those people who lifted not one single finger to the guy.

I imagine it’ll be similar for Boo. A lot of chatter on the sidelines but he’s alone now and he’ll pay the price all alone.

Let's be real, the person working at that McDonald's really needs that $10K reward.

That's what i was thinking R33. It would not be difficult. And definitely he could stop shaving, try to bring in a trim beard/goatee.

I guess the challenge is, with that photo of him smiling, he cannot risk going back to his home base as is. Yet without home base, he cannot survive materially. Money, food, shelter, etc. So it probably happened, he just burned out on "living on the lam."

If he's American, I'm surprised nobody came forth on social media to say they recognized him before now. A hot piece of ass like that didn't have any former classmates, coworkers, etc. who thought he looked familiar?

NY Times: "The man being questioned in Altoona in connection with the killing of Brian Thompson is Luigi Mangione, 26, according to three law enforcement officials."

Is this his Twitter?

He’ll be doing life in a hardcore NYS prison. You’d think he’d try a little harder to get away.

R35, I'd visit him in prison.

Any relation to Chuck? Or Mario?

Hmm.

R39, if that is him, wow, he sure works out.

Mayor Adams doing press conference at 1:30 EST to take all the credit.

Luigi's insta..

Oops, take 2. Luigi's insta.

Man it's Fuck Joe Biden all day.

Uh Oh. UPenn student.

Gay? He is going to be a folk hero.

Fucking hell, now I find him hotter than ever. Beauty, brains, and brawn!

Well this is baffling. Cute and hunky on the surface, and nerdy-smart... seems to have friends etc... and he decides to destroy his life by assassinating a healthcare CEO. Wonder what the motivation was.

Has his father Chuck issued a statement yet?

He retweeted this “ Peter Thiel on many great startups being run by people suffering from a mild form of Asperger’s and how we should view this as an indictment of our society.”

He’s on the spectrum!!

A guy with an M.S.E. in computer science from Penn State cum-hitman? Shades of Breaking Bad. He’s hot and has a great smile, but honestly I don’t think it’s him.

Link

It’s him. Jesus.

It was Mario!

[quote]Has his father Chuck issued a statement yet?

Yes, but it’s an instrumental..

Everybody sing!

Wow. Don Juan did not disappoint. Total Fox.

[quote]A guy with an M.S.E. in computer science from Penn State cum-hitman? Shades of Breaking Bad. He’s hot and has a great smile, but honestly I don’t think it’s him.

Penn, not Penn State. Considerable difference.

You bitches are slipping. Look at the center pic on his X profile. I have NO idea what the AF that is, but it clearly looks like an x-ray of some sort.

In other words, there's probably an explanation in his X posts. Start digging, cunts!

Not really 😜

A Unabomber for our times!

[quote]A lot of chatter on the sidelines but he’s alone now and he’ll pay the price all alone.

He will, but the case is so compelling (yet more with all the breaking news) that he'll be more than breaking news for years. I'm not sure sideline chatter will fade anytime soon.

In previous generations Capote, Mailer and Vidal interested themselves in and immersed in the cases of notorious killers. There's so very much in this case touching on significant areas of American life that writers good and bad, film-makers too, will seek to make contact with this unique person of interest.

I just scrolled thru his Twitter reposts and posts. Some predominant themes: societal discontent, AI, futurism (utopian and dystopian), fitness advice, and how it's difficult out there for young males.

Well, he looks a million times better in a swimsuit than Ted K.

Shit. He was his HS valedictorian!

(R67 again) but, curiously, no posts about healthcare/health insurance, or about the predatory 1%, or about anything that directly connects his Twitter/X history to what he did.

Of course it's possible that he had posted about those things, and took them down before he committed the crime.

Someone that hot stuck out like a sore thumb in Altoona, PA.

R65 the Unabomber was better educated.

WE will find that he is some entitled knowitall tech wannabe who is just pissed that he is not already in the Executive Suite with all the per4ks.

Eric Adams and the NYC Police Dept. hosting one of their typical self-congratulatory press conferences now. Adams attributed the apprehension to "good old-fashioned police work" -- which apparently means, picking up the phone when a tipster called.

Penn is not top 10 in either CS or Engineering.

Watching press conference now...Eric Adams is a terrible speaker.

I’d eat his ass!

They need to put him in a lady prison for his own protection.

"It seems he had some ill will toward corporate America."

His Twitter feed suggests mental illness, if that wasn’t already clear.

Eat Eric’s ass?!

"It seems he had some ill will toward corporate America."

Ya think?

He is from Fiji, or has South Pacific ancestry? His Ig states he is "Luigi from Fiji".

He went to a private day HS in Roland Park, MD. He comes from some amount of money. Pledged a frat at Penn, there are photos on his Ig. He is born and raised in the US, there are photos of him with a sister on his soc media - NO ONE recognized his photos? No family, no former classmates? So weird.

R69, he got into Penn's computer science department for his BS & MS. No surprise he was valedictorian.

Btw I'm not doxxing him, but he lives in Towson, a suburb north of Baltimore.

I think this is him.

Apparently he was also carrying a manifesto and it conveys a hatred of the healthcare industry. I wonder if any of his closest family had a clue or even knew.

Fiji is a fraternity, silly. Phi Gamma Delta.

Correct, R85. If you hover over his name, you can see his GitHub employer listed along with him attending Penn.

His X account states he has a BSE and MSE in Comp Sci. So both a bachelors and a masters? He isn't stupid or unmotivated.

He went to Gilman High, a fairly preppy, upper middle class private school in suburban Baltimore. So not impoverished.

A clue?

[quote]Apparently he was also carrying a manifesto and it conveys a hatred of the healthcare industry. I wonder if any of his closest family had a clue or even knew.

Once again, look at the central pic. It's an x-ray. OBVIOUS MOTIVE, PEOPLE!

The NYPD photos released don’t really do him Justice. He’s quite handsome and looks happy. Not surprised none of his friends thought of him especially if it was out of character.

R90, try reading in the future (specifically R63).

What are those clips in his lower back? Any medical people here.

Yeah let’s not post this in the main thread. Lets have 600 threads about the same subject 🙄

Guy identified because of his resemblance to the killer is arrested in possession of the murder weapon and handwritten manifesto critical of health insurance companies,

DL: “I don’t think it’s him.”

And this one too:

FYI, I ran a background check on him. No priors of any sort, and he apparently grew up in Towson, but he lived in Honolulu for a while (hence the hot Twitter pic).

Hawt!

Insta

[quote] Fucking hell, now I find him hotter than ever. Beauty, brains, and brawn!

But what about breeding?

But did he act alone? Is he just a patsy? The mafia? C.I.A.?

r93 do you see a pic at r63?

So he's a slightly psychotic, anti-social, overprivileged frat boy?

What's the problem?

Penn alums still together!

SUP =Sociopaths United @ Penn

they will be enjoying him in prison

Mangia!

It's interesting how smart he is, the kind of killer who you think would be highly knowledgeable about how killers typically get caught. He had to know we live in a world with cameras and video recorders EVERYWHERE. And yet there he was, riding on a public bus and eating at McDonald's without having changed his disguise much. And carrying the weapon and the fake IDs and a manifesto, which means getting inspected = getting caught.

I think he suffered from back pain and probably became angry with his insurance provider. Maybe stemming from an old soccer injury. His Good Reads account shows that he read "Crooked: Outwitting the Back Pain Industry and Getting on the Road to Recovery"

I think he wanted to be caught. Why else carry around all that evidence?

Wonder why he didn't go to Philly which he knew and would be easier to hide...but went to the Toon instead?

He gave "Hillbilly Elegy" 4 stars, and mostly reads self help and YA, lol. Ok, not the revolutionary genius I expected, but he's still a hero, and sexier than anyone expected!

26 year old smokeshow, he could have been surfing in Hawaii, doing OF and getting all the cock or puss he ever wanted, but instead he felt compelled to do this. Very curious.

[quote]He gave "Hillbilly Elegy" 4 stars

He gave it three out of five stars.

Isn't 26 the cutoff age for kids to be on their parents' insurance? Welcome to the adult world, chump.

R109, his Goodreads is littered with libertarian bro shit.

He must be crazy because he still had the phony NJ I.D. card on him. The use of it should have been a one-and-done, then toss in it the river.

[quote]I think he wanted to be caught. Why else carry around all that evidence?

I was thinking the same thing, but OTOH he obviously had a well-planned escape route. Why stop in Altoona, of all places? (He would've at least blended in better in State College.) Also, he went to considerable trouble to obtain a ghost gun, but was that merely a precaution to ensure he could get away with the assassination? Or did he merely figure out he was surrounded with no realistic way out? (Did he even WANT to escape, meaning permanently?)

But really, the telltale sign is him getting caught with a manifesto. I assume we'll be hearing about its contents soon, including an explanation for why he did what he did. (But that Twitter header pic seems like an obvious indicator.)

[quote]He must be crazy because he still had the phony NJ I.D. card on him. The use of it should have been a one-and-done, then toss in it the river.

That was a simple mistake, not proof of insanity. The dude's VERY methodical, but no one's perfect. Yes, he definitely should've chucked it, but still.

Maybe he was carrying the manifesto thinking he would be killed in the chase and capture?

I have to say I'm relieved he won't be able to be painted as a leftist, based on his Twitter and Goodreads accounts. If his politics had been strictly leftist, Trump and Co would have used that as a cudgel.

I know someone noted he's the Unabomber of our time, but this is from the Guardian!!

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On what appears to be Mangione’s GoodReads account, the 26-year-old reviewed the Unabomber’s book, giving it four stars out of five.

In his lengthy review, Magnione described Ted Kaczynski’s “In Industrial Society and Its Future” as a book “clearly written by a mathematics prodigy” adding that it “reads like a series of lemmas on the question of 21st century quality of life.”

“It’s easy to quickly and thoughtless write this off as the manifesto of a lunatic, in order to avoid facing some of the uncomfortable problems it identifies” the review reads. “But it’s simply impossible to ignore how prescient many of his predictions about modern society turned out.”

He adds: “He was a violent individual - rightfully imprisoned - who maimed innocent people. While these actions tend to be characterized as those of a crazy luddite, however, they are more accurately seen as those of an extreme political revolutionary.”

Good point, R121. This guy sounds like he'd be more a Joe Rogan/Jordan Peterson type, but with a few more brain cells than most.

He liked this Kurt Vonnegut Jr. quote in May:

"Americans, like human beings everywhere, believe many things that are obviously untrue. Their most destructive untruth is that it is very easy for any American to make money. They will not acknowledge how in fact hard money is to come by, and, therefore, those who have no money blame and blame and blame themselves. This inward blame has been a treasure for the rich and powerful, who have had to do less for their poor, publicly and privately, than any other ruling class since, say, Napoleonic times."

Odd that no one from Penn or Baltimore or Honolulu noticed a resemblance to the police pics—so easy to see it’s the same person.

And yet Daniel Penny walks free.

R125, it’s crazy tbh! The photos on his Facebook page show a wide number of friends. None of them said anything.

Lol, OP! That's what I said as soon as I read that.

They may have thought, "gee, that looks like Luigi! but nah, can't be him" and went on with things. He has no prior record of violence.

The oddity of no “friend or acquaintance” ratting him out most likely arises from people just plain liking him and not wanting to give him up. The total stranger had no such reason to hold back and did have the offer of money to motivate him.

Those kids watch the news?

Naaaah.

[quote]It's interesting how smart he is, the kind of killer who you think would be highly knowledgeable about how killers typically get caught.

From Leopold and Loeb to Dennis Rader and Bryan Kohberger, that's often how they're caught: by overestimating their own intelligence. So many killers who got away with it only did so because of privilege or dumb luck, including investigatory incompetence.

Luigi, you beautiful fool. By last Wednesday at noon, that gun should have been at the bottom of the Hudson and your fine ass should have been on a flight out of Newark Airport to a non-extradition country. You could be sipping a cocktail in Vietnam right now. Idiot.

If he wanted to stay unrecognized he should have added more stealthy elements such as dark shades and a larger face mask. He could have easily chucked the gun in any sewer or a lake or a remote rural location after he left NYC. He was very confident they would not recognize his feautures or track him down.

Never meet your heroes.

You. Throw. The. Gun. In. The. River. And. Leave. The. Country.

I’ve experienced the truth of that countless times, R135, and I never even met one of mine in person. I just followed their careers until the last straw cane and I was finally ready to face the dismal facts.

It’s better to pick dead heroes if you want to avoid disillusionment because at least, even if they blew it some number of times in life, they won’t keep doing it.

When the legend becomes fact, print the legend.

Ryan Murphy just fired up a new project in Final Draft.

He must have fractured his back at some point judging by those pins.

[quote]None of them said anything.

[quote]...people just plain liking him and not wanting to give him up.

Maybe it's not just in DL that over 70% didn't want him to be caught.

One of his online profiles says he was a Data Engineer at Truecar.

Luigi reshared this

He has distinctive large brown eyes, he should have not displayed them. As much as I hate many of the CEOs of large corporations for their sociopath mentality, going on some idiotic vigilantist mission means you deserve getting justice. Murder one for premeditated killing applies he. New York State does not have a death penalty but he will likely get life in prison.

People don't see what they don't want to see. And honestly, how many nutty assassins are popular frat boys?

Family used to live in an $866,000+ home in Towson MD, which was sold back in June.

This hottie is the poster boy for some V for Vendetta movement among Gen Z/Alpha. Imitators are probably taking notes.

A few insights:

1. He was a Phi Psi. That's a popular fraternity at many schools, including Penn, and the likelihood that none of his brothers somehow failed to recognize him is slim to none. (But you don't nark on a brother. Ever.)

2. The manifesto will explain those VERY severe spikes in his lower back. I've had a double spinal fusion and am well-acquainted with spinal injuries, and that is NOT the slightest bit normal even for a geriatric, let alone an athletic 26-year-old.

3. Quandary: are those HIS back spikes? If so, how was he easily able to bike halfway across Manhattan at a near-sprint?

Which one of you bitches tagged him in this??

This is his BFF, according to the interwebs. Same age & also hot AF. Tracks.

Wow - sister (pretty sure it's his sister) is a med school graduate, currently in the medical scientist program at Vanderbilt! Smart family, medical ties.

He has to be on the spectrum - sharing a paper he wrote as a 15 year old about Christianity and the fall of the Roman Empire. Screenshots of speeches he gave. Definitely an attention whore

He seems so Joyful. And Kind!

STOP, BITCHES!

"Luigi meet prostate, prostate meet my luigi😍😍"

Omg, I was right! I said on the other thread that he's Italian!!!

Stud!!!

R152, I'm surprised it took you this long to chime in with the standard Asperger's diagnosis without a shred of true evidence.

It didn’t.

He should have worn sunglasses!

[quote]MSNBC just reported that Nino Mangione, a Republican state assembly member, is related to the suspect arrested for killing a United Healthcare CEO.

[quote]His family owns exclusive country clubs and a conservative radio station in Maryland.

His grandfather Nick was a wealthy Baltimore area property developer, who owned country clubs and resorts. From immigrant stock, self-made wealth, seemed to be well-respected, had 10 kids. Unpaywalled (hopefully) link:

Poor guy must have thought his hoodie was an invisibility cloak

Gay?

Seriously, R159? You think having a single Republican family member means something? Please.

I wonder if this Trumper political from Maryland is related to him

Grandmother Mary's obituary, from last year. Sicilian heritage (someone here called it). Seemed to be very nice, stable, hardworking people:

Charlie doesn't like a snitch.

I'm not going to post information about his parents, which I have from Google (I found the info re the grandparents and posted it here) or his most recent home address just out of privacy concerns. These people are going to have to go into hiding over the coming days.

The family home in Towson appears to have been sold last June.

If the insurance company denied his claims, he can cite mental duress and even self-defense.

I hope they keep him away from the Diddler in prison.

I could see a hung jury in his future. People will be sympathetic to him if he presents as repentant.

Bag that ruin of a face and he’s fuckable.

"[R109], his Goodreads is littered with libertarian bro shit."

And why would it matter? I mean, someone who assassinates a health insurance company CEO is no libertarian. He also reviews Harry Potter, lol---clearly, the guy had some kind of political awakening that didn't involve taking down his reviews of self-help books.

R85: size 12

Stanford University confirmed Luigi Mangione was employed as a head counselor in the Stanford Pre-Collegiate Studies Program from May through September of 2019. A Facebook page that appears to belong to Mangione is filled with dozens of photos from the summer, including a soccer game at Stanford, a hike in the hills around the campus and a visit to the San Francisco Museum of Modern Art.

This reaffirms my view that good looks do not always (or often) lead to happiness.

Gay and into high-school-aged twinks.

Figures —so many nuts down on the Farm.^

R164, according the Facebook comments it may be his brother. The guy has posted in the last few days, although the latest one about a fundraiser for himself was deleted.

R35 the bus probably quieted down thinking they had to be high alert for your crazy ass

The guy at r164 certainly resembles him, quite a bit. Definitely related.

Some of the local news people are criticizing the family because they can't understand why no one recognized him from the widely circulated photos, and called the authorities.

He had two parents, at least one sibling, and (from his grandparents' obits) 35+ cousins and 18 aunts/uncles on his father's side of the family, alone, all in the Baltimore area.

Sad...seems like a likeable guy, smart (well up until fairly recently) and cute and he threw it all away.

r150 this guy Leo is just trolling to get traffic to his IG.

r150

[quote]If the insurance company denied his claims, he can cite mental duress and even self-defense.

Um, no.

For those above who think no one who knew Luigi came forward to identify him, the police already had his name a couple of days before tracking him down, so maybe somebody who knew him told the police who he is.

R184, the police did not have his name or know anything about him until today when a geriatric McDonald's customer in Altoona phoned in a tip about a suspicious person..

R163, conservatives would be blaming liberals if it turned out he had a Dem politician as a relative

he is italian but he looks like many white latinos, he looks cuban, argentinian, spanish, colombian from medellin, and brazilian.

So no job?

Oh fuck! This isn’t political. Gen Alpha’s political views are so mixed up. You sad sack fucks always have to get a political party to blame for everything.

He sacrificed his wonderful life, and I think it may be a watershed moment. At least I hope it is in some meaningful way, however small.

The former prep school valedictorian was caught with a ghost gun that uses 9mm bullets, a silencer, a US passport, four fake IDs with names used during the killer’s stint in New York City and the manifesto, sources said.

R189 Gen Alpha? Um the oldest Gen Alpha is 14 lol

His LinkedIn suggests he is a data engineer at a car company based in California, although he lists his current home as Honolulu in Hawaii.

As someone who works in healthcare, I completely understand how the outrageously criminal behavior of insurers can lead you to murder.

[quote] I'm not going to post information about his parents, which I have from Google

Atta boy! You guard that top secret information you got from Google that anyone who is able to get that incredibly rare website on their own computer couldn’t possibly get.

I blame fluoride.

R195 that poster who is obsessively googling everything about him and then acting so self-righteous by telling us “I have this info… But I’m not going to tell any of you… Because you all Would do bad things with the info unlike me who is a really good person!”

Has RFK Jr. commented yet?

[quote] Murder one for premeditated killing applies he. New York State does not have a death penalty but he will likely get life in prison.

New York also doesn’t charge Murder 1; he'll be charged with Murder 2.

I need to know if he’s cut or uncut before I decide how I feel about this whole arrest thing.

[quote] I blame fluoride.

Nah, it’s the new math. It drives them right to the streets.

He’s one cheeseburger away from full onset gynecomastia.

To R111, I told Luigi he could have stayed in my condo in Philly right off 22nd St. in center city.

3 bedrooms, it's filled with food, great security, quiet

You could stay at my Wash DC place-no one would find u there.

Pop

Sicks

Stitch

Uh-uh

Sis, he’s a Hero!

Mangione

🎶🎼

He had it comin'

He had it comin'

He only had himself to blame

If you'd have been there

If you'd have seen it

I betcha you would have done the same

[quote]Atta boy! You guard that top secret information you got from Google that anyone who is able to get that incredibly rare website on their own computer couldn’t possibly get.

No, just not feeling comfortable being the one who posts names/addresses of relatives here on a public board, who haven't done anything and will be dealing with the media for many months. I'm not guarding anything, there's been plenty of info posted here that can lead anyone to look stuff up themselves...you can do it.

If anyone wants to post whatever details they'd like, feel free.

Will post this: former family home, sold June 2024.

R206 bet his cum is still in the carpet

Hawt, r207.

Schizophrenia It can emerge at any age, but most commonly appears in adulthood, between the ages of 25 and 27.

His friends and family were trying to contact him via Twitter. He had been MIA for months apparently.

R167, his grandparents home was sold in June.

He was raised in a home with a massive kitchen island! GUILTY!!!

The family also owned a chain of senior rehab facilities. They were milking the system just like UHC

I'd like to milk Luigi.

Italians don’t rat each other out.

Beautiful boy...I want to eat my dinner off his abs....

Nope r210, it was his parents house in Towson. Luigi, his sister and both parents were listed as having lived there. Unless they also lived there with his late grandmother, who died in 2023.

The mask and hoodie were certainly working for him. Hot- but then not so hot. OK- nice chest but the teeth look odd. Does anyone know what they call that procedure?

Its a shame to have all that education and then to just end up in the service industry in prison.

That was his grandparents home, R216.

Anyhoo, these are his parents.

He's going to have so many prison penpals!

One more target killing of an insurance CEO and policies will start costing 20% less.

Nope r218, he and all members of his immediate family are listed as having lived there.

His maternal aunt is a quirky art gallery owner in the city, if this is her:

His aunt again, speaking about her local gallery. Again, seems like a nice, articulate person:

R221, you win, okay? Who the fuck cares.

I don’t have the desire to argue with you fucktard.

[quote] One more target killing of an insurance CEO and policies will start costing 20% less.

Exactly. Insurance executives will certainly work for less once they know they are targets for assassinations. And, if they make their reimbursement policies more generous, premiums will go down. You are a smart thinker!!

Shrug r223. I got accused of hoarding information here, so now I'm posting away.

Maternal grandfather's obit, from 2017. Was a local funeral parlor owner/mortician:

Oooh more to come. Interesting!

Is this our first famous shooter who was hot, without a domestic violence record and not "known to law enforcement"?

You’re spitting into the wind R225.

I don’t think he’s so hot. Nice body. Butterface.

It looks like the interwebs took down his Facebook page as well as his familytreenow profile.

[quote] You’re spitting into the wind [R225].

You don’t do that.

Well, now, r226, the plot thickens.

For those who don’t want to click on the link at r226 to the hellscape, it seems Luigi has done YouTube videos set to drop this week.

Timed and queued to drop.

R214, snitches get stitches and end up in ditches!!!!

I don't think he'd have chosen an old photo of himself posing with a The Lion King Happy Meal box as his profile pic if he had set up an account for timed video drops, which makes me doubt the YouTube account is really him.

McSnitches get McStitches, that is.

i think he is gay because went I entered his instagram I saw that he was followed (or maybe followed) by two gay accounts that I follow too, gingerguido and fabian sassier

The gays are following him for reasons that are well known to them. It doesn't mean he is gay (although he does have cookie sniffer vibes)

Someone needs to create a poster of that Hawaii pic. I bet it would outsell the famous Farrah Fawcett poster.

He'll never be as beloved on DL as I was!

Lots of DLers with low standards. He ain’t all that.

I read his family lost track of him for a few months … did they even bother to report him missing? Might be some dark secrets there in his family.

R241, he's pretty fucking hot for an assassin that captivated the country. The eyebrows are a bit too assertive for my tastes too but that body is bangin'. It also is still a twisted fucking story that checks a bunch of weird boxes.

R242, an Italian mom not being in contact with her son (and not making a huge melodrama about it) is highly unusual

He seems like he has suffered enough, sleeping at a hostel, riding buses and eating at a McDonalds in Pennsylvania. Free Luigi.

Wonder if Luigi will get a bump in baby names this coming year (or the opposite)

Luigi Mangione to appear in court Monday night...

The suspected killer of UnitedHealthCare CEO Brian Thompson is set to appear in a Pennsylvania court on Monday evening.

Mangione, 26, is scheduled for a 6 p.m. ET preliminary arraignment at the Blair County Court House in Hollidaysburg, a spokesperson for the Pennsylvania State Courts told Fox News.

He is reportedly refusing to talk to police.

'Suspect didn't say a word. He refused to talk,' a law enforcement source told the news outlet.

R233 doesnt twitter say that post is bs?

I’m scared for him in jail. A life sentence seems likely.

How are they going to find 12 people to sit on a jury who don’t hate UHC and other insurance carriers?

[quote]How are they going to find 12 people to sit on a jury who don’t hate UHC and other insurance carriers?

It's impossible.

Mugshot from the other thread.

He's fucked, ladies. He'll be fat by March. It's likely hard to find high protein options and Muscle Milk where he's going. Finding a tool to tame the brows will likely be a challenge too. I really don't think he thought this through as much as people are giving him credit for...

I'm curious to read Louie Six-Pack's "manifesto" and find out why a seemingly libertarian aspiring tech-bro would gun down a crooked granny-killing CEO. Wouldn't he be more likely to idolize such a person? Could he be a tad confused?

Actually I'm only curious to hear someone summarize the "manifesto" to me.

If he had changed into a brightly coloured sweatshirt and dyed his hair + plucked his eyebrows no one would have recognized him. It seems like he planned the murder but had no plans for after the escape. Maybe he wanted to get caught.

Anyway what a waste. A brilliant young man red pilled by Carlson and Rogan and seemingly suffering a pretty severe mental break.

that's it! the insanity defense!

Yes, I blame Rogan and Tucker Carlson. They are the true villains here

He’s crazy good looking, for sure.

[quote]If he had changed into a brightly coloured sweatshirt and dyed his hair + plucked his eyebrows

Nothing indicates he’s trans.

So much cuter with the hood. Ick.

r253, Oh, he will find muscle milk...

So motive? Was he just mad his healthcare sucked?

Or did he not achieve as much as he thought he would have at 26 and cracked?

Fuck Joe Biden!

Why can't we state the obvious: Schizophrenia!

Some wit on X dubbed him The Unibrower.

R264 It is very much a possibility. But certainly not definite. His actions could be a personal vendetta or that of an ideological vigilante.

I volunteer to interrogate Luigi for DL. Thoroughly. His every orifice.

I will report back to you all. Eventually.

Say cheese. Like the assassination of the archduke of Austria or whatever that started World War I

Class wars have begun.

People are already claiming he's just a "fallguy" and the real shooter got away.

They're saying that anyone who would plan and execute a crime in this detail wouldn't be stupid enough to keep all the evidence, so it must have been planted.

Of course, they're all also claiming NOT to believe in conspiracies, but in this case...

The conspiracy cottage industry is just getting fired up.

It won't be long until he looks like his fat ugly father. Ugh, those eyebrows.

“Ideological vigilante” perfectly sums up what I’ve read, R266.

He will get bail, then a manslaughter conviction, he'll be out by his mid to late 30's.

Hallelujah, R273! He'll still be hot when he's released!

The family issued a curt statement saying we don’t know anything so don’t contact us.

I wonder if they will get him an attorney or disavow him.

Murder charge filed in NY

In his holding cell.

I don’t ever recall seeing a photo of a “prisoner” in his holding cell.

I'm your prisoner, and I'm captured by your eyes

R273, I don’t see how anything less than 1st degree murder is possible for this premeditated assassination.

R277 hmm. yeah. he pissed his pants. How Beta.

Mitigating circumstances.

The major puzzle piece still missing is how did he know where and the time to shoot the health care exec. How did he get that information?

What about the burner phone, more people involved?

He's not talking

Good r285. Life lesson: never do any talking except to your attorney, if you’re ever detained on suspicion of murdering a CEO of a major insurance company.

R185, Eric Adams said a couple of days ago that the police had a name. People who knew him personally may not necessarily have known his whereabouts.

He's a fantasist with delusions of glory. A complete, fucking idiot.

[quote]They're saying that anyone who would plan and execute a crime in this detail wouldn't be stupid enough to keep all the evidence, so it must have been planted.

Anyone who would commit this moronic crime is already an idiot.

😂😂😂😂😂

R277 He looks like he’s posing for his album of songs about broken dreams in small town America.

He hurt his back surfing

Luigi's meat

R292, they do surfing out on the east coast?

Reddit comments suggest that it's common for someone to piss themselves after being tazed. If the photo is supposed to make me have less sympathy for him, sorry... it's the opposite. I want to give him comfort.

[quote]If the photo is supposed to make me have less sympathy for him, sorry... it's the opposite.

Attempted humiliation to offset the uncontrollable lack of condemnation for LM out there. LM's defiant face shows he isn't humiliated. Support for him is unlikely to fade. TPTB will hate that, and continue to let LM know it.

R294: Yes.

His family was dealing with him as a “missing person” for a month and they were highly concerned for his mental and physical health. You can’t tell me none of them saw his smiling photo at the NYC hostel reception desk. But then you can’t expect family to turn him in.

If Luigi is in prison, can't he just warp his way out through a tunnel?

If Luigi is in prison, can't he just warp his way out through a tunnel?

He’s HAWT. not guilty your honour!

The police already had his name before they arrested him, r298, so someone must have told them who he is.

Re: urinating on himself:

You know who else might do that? Medical patients who need life saving procedures deemed "not medically necessary" by policies created like the jackal CEO.

If the cops think that will whitewash things: har har har.

[quote]The police already had his name before they arrested him, [R298], so someone must have told them who he is.

[quote] A complete, fucking idiot.

A complete HOT fucking idiot.

Supposedly from a substack post he wrote — United Healthcare denied coverage for his mother's excruciating back pain. And then denied coverage for his own back pain.

He declares that he's his own CEO, and made his decisions accordingly. Very articulate post.

He or his family might have had some UHC stock, therefore eligible to attend a shareholders' meeting, which may be how he sussed out where the CEO could be at 6:34 am in midtown Manhattan.

Can anyone who owns stock attend a SH meeting?

.. or whatever time it was ..

R397 nothing to be suss out: it was posted on their website for chrissake. It was public information.

R307^

I don't agree with his solution, but if the words at R306 are really his, I understand his frustration. It would be nice if this tragedy can jumpstart a conversation that needs to be had in this country. But I'm not optimistic ... the media seems very reluctant to examine the issue. They're condemning the people taking some measure of satisfaction from the killing, but refusing to look at that harsh realities that have driven those people to be so cavalier about a loss of life.

I thought I Read that on social media his friends and family were worried about him because they had not seen or heard from him since before Thanksgiving. In fact they said his own family had not heard from him in a month. He definitely had mental health issues. I feel sad about this.

R311 that’s fake.

Mental illness.

Thanks, R313.

R307, damn, you are poor lol. Don't you own any stocks? Of course you can attend shareholders meeting lol

Luigi Mangione’s family breaks silence after Brian Thompson murder charge — as it’s revealed he spiraled after ‘traumatic’ surgery

Mangione’s mother reported him missing Nov. 18 — possibly from a home in San Francisco, where he lived for a time — and reached out to his peers as they tried to track him down.

“When I first interviewed him, before he moved in, I remember he said he had a back issue, and he was hoping to get stronger in Hawaii,” RJ Martin said.

The roommate said Mangione’s back issues were so “traumatic and difficult” that one basic surfing lesson left him bedridden for a week.

When he underwent surgery, Martin said, his friend sent him images of the X-rays.

without the rest of the Monopoly money they have nothing! He's innocent!

Explaining the injury that Mangione had suffered after a back condition called spondylolisthesis was worsened by a surfing accident Martin said: 'His spine was kind of misaligned.

'He said his lower vertebrae were almost like a half-inch off, and I think it pinched a nerve.'

Martin told CNN that Mangione, who he described as a bright engineer, suffered from debilitating pain throughout his six month stay at SurfBreak during 2022.

He said a single surf lesson left Mangione 'in bed for a week' afterwards, adding: 'It was really traumatic and difficult, you know, when you’re in your early twenties and you can’t, you know, do some basic things.'

Martin said Mangione and other residents of the co-living space would talk about medical issues and capitalism.

But he insisted the suspected murderer never gave off the impression of being angry or radicalized.

He also said that Mangione did not complain about his back pain and did not appear to be taking any kind of painkillers.

Mangione's health issues are also said to have caused professional problems for the University of Pennsylvania graduate, who worked as an engineer for online car sales company TrueCar after his graduation.

A Reddit poster believed to be Mangione spoke of how he had lived with a back condition called spondylolisthesis since childhood.

Spondylolisthesis sees a bone in the spine, known as a vertebra, slip out. The condition usually affects the lower back and can be extremely painful

He’s the right age for schizophrenia.

Here's why some people are treating him like a hero -- It's an all too common tale. I have UHC and it sucks:

The high copays made consistent treatment impossible. New treatments were denied as “not medically necessary.” Old treatments didn’t work, and still put us out for thousands of dollars. UnitedHealthcare limited specialist consultations to twice a year. Then they refused to cover advanced imaging, which the specialists required for an appointment. Prior authorizations took weeks, then months. UnitedHealthcare constantly changed their claim filing procedure. They said my mother’s doctor needed to fax his notes. Then UnitedHealthcare said they did not save faxed patient correspondence, and required a hardcopy of the doctor’s typed notes to be mailed. Then they said they never received the notes. They were unable to approve the claim until they had received and filed the notes. They promised coverage, and broke their word to my mother. With every delay, my anger surged. With every denial, I wanted to throw the doctor through the glass wall of their hospital waiting room. But it wasn’t them. It wasn’t the doctors, the receptionists, administrators, pharmacists, imaging technicians, or anyone we ever met. It was UnitedHealthcare. People are dying. Evil has become institutionalized. Corporations make billions of dollars off the pain, suffering, death, and anguished cries in the night of millions of Americans. We entered into an agreement for healthcare with a legally binding contract that promised care commensurate with our insurance payments and medical needs. Then UnitedHealthcare changes the rules to suit their own profits. They think they make the rules, and think that because it’s legal that no one can punish them. They think there’s no one out there who will stop them.

A Reddit poster believed to be Mangione spoke of how he had lived with a back condition called spondylolisthesis since childhood.

🥴

*Record scratch*

*Freeze frame*

"Yep, that's me. You're probably wondering how I ended up in this situation..."

NY Times said he could not fuck because of his back.

Still worship the ground he walks on?

[quote] Still, Mr. Martin said, he and others in the community came to understand that the pain was no small matter to a young man yearning for a normal lifestyle. “He knew that dating and being physically intimate with his back condition wasn’t possible,” Mr. Martin said. “I remember him telling me that, and my heart just breaks.”

I would still like to know why he was carrying Monopoly money.

For the same reason he annotated the bullet casings.

To R327, you could fuck him slow, Missionary style-Luigi could suck cock-swallow my babies!

[quote]Supposedly from a substack post he wrote — United Healthcare denied coverage for his mother's excruciating back pain. And then denied coverage for his own back pain.

That’s probably why he shot the CEO in the back before finishing him off.

A little too eldergay for Luigi.

R331–upthread that was called a forgery .

He had back surgery. Unlikely he paid for it himself.

I could have been his sex therapist, pro boner.

Link says the charge is second-degree murder.

Here's our man pulling down his mask in McDonalds. He looks famished.

[quote]He had back surgery. Unlikely he paid for it himself.

R333 It’s not the surgery but the pain management that was likely denied, so the bullet in the back sent a clear message.

A hash brown! Hash brown?

R324 was copied word for word from a post off of Twitter/X.

He might have been a vegetarian going by the books he read, as per Goodreads, R337. So, no Big Macs.

[Quote]If he's American, I'm surprised nobody came forth on social media to say they recognized him before now. A hot piece of ass like that didn't have any former classmates, coworkers, etc. who thought he looked familiar?

to say nothing of his family

I’ll play the contrarian. I’ve had UHC via my employer for 16 years, through chronic conditions and emergency procedures. Never had a single issue, other than reminding an anesthesiologist that he’d be paid as in-network.

I wouldn't have recognized him in McDonald's from the posters.

I’ll play the contrarian to r340: I have never used the services of UHC. I received a notice from them that they allowed a breach of my personal data. They did not say what personal data was breached or how they got it in the first place.

Fuck them

Did I read upthread that he was tased? Was that necessary?

So just to clarify, he wasn't a foreign assassin, as the DL sleuths were saying?

R342 so what. Everyone in the US with a phone number or an id has been breached.

R344 well, some have described Ivy grads as just another small foreign faction anathema to the American way.

R340 Your experience is irrelevant, not contrarian. Obviously not all claims are denied. A contrarian position would be that you think it's okay that UHC overbills Medicare and Medicare and is being investigated for fraud, that it's okay to have the highest rate of denied claims, that it's okay for UHC to have a near monopoly on health insurance, that it's okay to be making billions in profits from the most expensive health care in the world, that it's okay the Department of Justice agreed to "slow down" its investigation of UHC fraud because Andrew Witty brought his troops to Washington to lobby for a reprieve. Happy you got your shit taken care of though, that's all that matters.

[Quote] Did I read upthread that he was tased? Was that necessary?

was killing Brian Thompson necessary?

R348, I was talking in terms of whether Luigi was combative when they caught him. It seems as though he wasn’t, hence my question about tasing being needed.

So judgey R347. A real pissant.

Piss yourself R350

He has Mother Issues:

[quote]Luigi Mangione's disturbing claim about cruel way his mother made him eat Luigi Mangione once claimed his mother made him eat steak with his right hand, even though he was left-handed, to 'adhere to social norms.'

[quote]The suspected killer of UnitedHealthCare CEO Brian Thompson made the claim in his review of The Four-Hour Workweek by Tim Ferris.

[post redacted because linking to dailymail.co.uk clearly indicates that the poster is either a troll or an idiot (probably both, honestly.) Our advice is that you just ignore this poster but whatever you do, don't click on any link to this putrid rag.]

In the United States, the word pissant may refer to any small, smelly ant that infests a home.

Yup.

Tim Miller says Luigi’s main appeal is that he’s a 10/10. Not necessarily his type, though, as he prefers Boston Marathon bomber Dzhokhar Tsarnaev, especially as he looked on the cover of the Rolling Stone.

R354

LM has a nose that changes dramatically at different angles. He looks like the Fonz in R353. The nose troll should chime in.

Look’s like Kramer on Seinfeld.

I'm really starting to think he was MK Ultra-ed

Did they send him back in time to 1973?

The real story is one of mental illness- paranoid schizophrenia often manifests in someone’s early 20s, and of course the ease with which guns are obtained. I don’t think this murder can be viewed as health care reform activism. It may have the opposite effect.

If you truly want healthcare reform the way to get it is to vote for pols who agree, that is to say Democrats right down any ticket.

R357 His nostrils could double for the center tube of the Lincoln Tunnel

My Italian parents, mother and father, my grandma, my 5 aunts and adult cousins all made me use my right hand. I was left handed. They even tied my hand down so I couldn't use it. I was 6 at the time. It made me a very contrarian, rebellious kid and now I am a grown up and I am a SUCCESSFUL contrarian adult. And I am happily Left Handed. I think it was superstition, "BAd Luck" or something.

It's an old world thing. My mother from Spain said I tended to pick up crayons with my left hand, so she'd move them to the right. I'm right handed, but don't think I ever could have been a lefty. Too difficult. The actor Peter O'Toole said the nuns in Ireland would use a switch on his left hand whenever he picked up a pencil with it. They actually made him bleed.

The word sinister, suggestive of darkness or evil, comes from a Latin word meaning “on the left side.” The association of “left” with “evil” is likely because of the dominance of right-handed people within a population.

R363. It was sinister! Where do you think that word came from?

Nuns did it to every lefty for generations on end.

No-it was because left was the opposite of “at the right hand of God.”

R361, what makes you think he's mentally ill? Are you a doctor?

R347 should read that UHF is defrauding Medicare and MediCAID which is the program for people who have nothing.

All this going on while we the public have to listen to alarms and warnings how these programs are going broke as the government pays billions to corporations like UHC.

[quote]The real story is one of mental illness- paranoid schizophrenia often manifests in someone’s early 20s, and of course the ease with which guns are obtained.

We have no idea if he's mentally ill and he didn't "obtain" a gun -- he printed it.

Printing is obtaining.

It was brave of him to not kill bystanders, law enforcement, or himself. He could have taken the coward's way out and he didn't. His cock might not work but he has a huge set of balls.

If he is schizophrenic and had a psychotic break would that be enough for an insanity defense?

Luigi Mangione came from privilege. Then his spine gave out, he went off the grid, and he got a gun. What does his pain and surgery have to do with insurance companies?

No.

Apparently in addition to treatments he personally was denied by insurance companies, he also had relatives (grandparents) who suffered in their later years due to declined coverage by these insurance companies.

Apparently, none of your post is accurate.

R378 or believable considering how wealthy the family was

did you see the house that was sold? looked very modest to me. not rich.

How did Svetlana make it all the way to Paris without being detected, yet Ivy-Leaguer Luigi only got as far as an Altoona McDonalds?? Zero street smarts.

Her face wasn't all over the news R381 before she boarded that flight

R380 do try and keep up

[quote] If he is schizophrenic and had a psychotic break would that be enough for an insanity defense?

Not enough for a not guilty verdict because his efforts to conceal his identity and flee demonstrate that he knew what he was doing was wrong or at least criminal. If he is seriously ill or under the influence of painkillers, he might be able to get charges reduced to manslaughter.

[quote][R307] damn, you are poor lol. Don't you own any stocks? Of course you can attend shareholders meeting lol

R316 Of course I own stocks .. they’re around here .. somewhere ..

Amazon yanks ‘Deny Defend Depose,’ ‘Free Luigi’ merch related to alleged UnitedHealthcare CEO murderer from site

My favorite Jeni's flavor. Do you also like Van Leeuwen's Honeycomb, Luigi?

It was sold for almost a million dollars, r380. It's a pricy part of greater Baltimore.

He's from Bawlmore, hon.

I like his nostrils.

Apparently, Fox and the right wing are liking this to Pelosi.

If Pelosi and Hillary were half as powerful as conservative dimwits claim they are, Trump would never have been re-elected. Ever.

Exactly, R392. And if it was up to just Pelosi he'd be six feet under.

[quote] Luigi Mangione came from privilege. Then his spine gave out, he went off the grid, and he got a gun.

🎶Luigi got a gun. Luigi got a gun. 🎵

Present Nostrils

wil he be on suidice watch? His cell doesn't have a TV!

Mangione has a cell to himself and is kept away from other inmates.

Gene Borrello, a former organized crime associate who spent 13 years behind bars, including four at Rikers, described the conditions at the New York City prison as the “most dangerous in America.”

He warns that if Mangione is transferred to Rikers, he will face harsh realities, including substandard food, unsanitary conditions and safety concerns.

His mother filed a missing persons report 2 weeks before he shot Brian Thompson

Did his family ever let on that they “found” him by virtue of the images released after the shooting?

I wonder if he kept his gun and all the fake ID stuff because he was planning to do another Hit? He seemed to be monitoring the news closely. of course to determine how close they were to discovering him. It had to be unnerving to see photos of himself in a taxi or at Starbucks, and finding out that they had been to his hostel and tracked him through Central Park. Watching video of himself doing the murder, etc. He was trying to figure out his next move. He should have gone to a drugstore and bought hair dye and packed another jacket and head gear. Looking at his capture photos he had the smae damned outfit on at McDonald's that he was wearing in the other photos.

Crazy that he didn't cut and dye his hair and pluck his eyebrows. And then he's wearing the same clothes and still has the damn gun! Unbeliveable.

He had tried to rent a hotel room and was turned away; maybe he meant to alter his appearance after he checked in. It's not like he could give himself a make-under that would fool law, enforcement in transit or in the john at the Altoona McDonald's.

Or, he could have dissociated from reality to the point he no longer cared if he was recognized.

Substandard food? In jail? Who could have imagined?

He went to elaborate lengths to get away, so he didn’t want to get caught. I think it’s just another manifestation of mental illness. Not thinking clearly.

I think if he had just change to a baseball cap and altered his eyebrows, put on a pair of eyeglasses he could have gotten away and all the hashbrowns in Altoona.

R404 wins today's award for deftest zeugma.

Well, he wrote a "confession" to his deeds, not very smart after all! Telling the cops nobody else was involved ---and he kept the gun, so dumb!

I think he would have been caught within a few days anyways. The police tip from San Fran about him missing there, due to his mother's missing persons report, was just making its way to NYPD and they would have confirmed his identity. Once they had a fix on who he was, it would have been easier to find him.

Fascinating update from People.

New York Post: Inside Luigi Mangione’s time as a beach bum in Hawaiian paradise — with accused UnitedHealthcare CEO assassin tickling girls, Tinder matching a yoga guru

^ $2K a month to hang out in Hawaii, surf, smoke pot, and attend book groups.

He didn't focus enough in his planning on how to remain undetectable and how to avoid leaving any traceable evidence. He should have worn dark sunglasses and a larger face mask before and after his act. Also, he should not have disposed his candy bar wrapper and water bottle. He should have stuffed them in his jacket and only got ride of them in a public trash can once out of town. The gun should have been thrown down a random sewer in any remote town or city. He seemed hyper focused on just one getting his target, not on all the other variables.

R409 r408 and much more to come—all the accounts & photos from the entire supporting cast … Zzzzzzz

Oh, and people recalling even though he was friendly, there was “something dark” about him … Zzzzzz

R410, first of all, 2k a month isn’t a lot when you’re talking about living in a major city or resort. I’m surprised it was this low actually. Hawaii has incredibly high costs, esp real estate. Second, I’m assuming he made a shit ton of money at his job, he was an engineer in a Silicon Vally company, and it seems he was still working remotely (although I’m not sure of that). There’s no indication his family was supporting him. Geez they couldn’t even find him.