Daniel Penny: Not Guilty

I figured they were. The man walked on that train threatening to kill people; it’s sad that he couldn’t get the mental health help he needed.

It’s great news. People are tired of the crazies and criminals having free rein to terrorize cities.

If the perp were Black and the victim White, Manhattan DA Bragg would've never filed the case. He has a history with 60% of felonies, lowering them and dismissing charges if perps are Black and Brown. This is why thugs are wandering the streets to continue victimizing New Yorkers.

I know some activists will say this was jury nullification but it truly wasn’t. The dude was acting outrageous, intimidating, and threatening to kill people. Obviously Penny could have shown more restraint towards the end but there were also 2 black dudes holding him n down in the beginning. This isn’t like that dude in the 80s. I believe his name was Bernie who shot up those teenagers because he was tired of being mugged.

Looking forward to the explanations why Brian Thompson's murderer was justified and Daniel Penny wasn't.

I hope these absentee grifting family members looking for payout get a BIG, FAT NOTHING.

Truly amazing stuff on X. Conservative should be promoting Daniel Penny as HOTTER than the Thompson killer. Datalounge take!

Curious that a jury can be deadlocked on manslaughter, but acquit on negligent homicide.

R6 I don’t know if those folks are grifters but my whole thing is why wasn’t he living with them. He was homeless. Perhaps he was so mentally ill, he refused to accept their homes.

Good! He should've been acquitted.

R9, because they didn’t give a shit about him. They were nowhere to be found for years. But now that some white dude killed him, they are ready for their payouts.

R7 This is not about democrat or republican. This is about common sense. Daniel Penny stood up for the women, he’ll just the people in general on that train. I know if I were there and that mafucker got in my face talking that crazy shit, I may have put hands on him. I don’t know if I know how to choke someone to death. But then again I probably would have avoided contact as them mafuckers be having HIV, open wounds and might spit on you or anything. Good god. Sad tragedy all around.

hell* just the people

Interesting. R8, they noted Penny was steady throughout and never escalated his chokehold. That played in his favor. They also noted it was not racial because black people on the train were afraid of him. too. The guys helping hold him down were black.

R9, I think they showed up for the pay day. I don't believe his father was present in his life, yet he's been front and center during this trial. Neely should have remained hospitalized under a doctor's care, but they released him like they do to all of the mentally ill these days. Bring back the damn institutions. Sheesh.

[quote]I hope these absentee grifting family members looking for payout get a BIG, FAT NOTHING.

His family had nothing to do with him but as soon as they saw a chance at getting a big payday they were suddenly so devastated that he died.

[quote] I don't believe his father was present in his life,

Shocking. 😂

Surprising. Thought he’d get a guilty on a lesser charge.

He should not have been charged in the first place. People want law and order

Saw the Harris Faulkner clip from fox. Wow-after all that deliberating and she’s still not white.

He did what the government refuses to do: keep the crazies off the streets.

NYers are sick of this shit.

Yes, it's unfortunate that we don't have adequate mental health care facilities in this country but that's not going to happen anytime soon. We can't even have universal health care in this country.

R14 You see and that’s the shit I don’t like. Because Al Sharpton and the like feel some type of way that this white boy from Long Island came into the city and did what needed to be done. Daniel Penny did not wake up that morning wanting to kill a black man. Neely was failed at 5 when his father probably ran out on the family. He was failed when entered the fucking foster care system and extended family wouldn’t take him. That’s when the fuck he was failed so don’t feel some type of way now. And I generally respect Al Sharpton.

I agree no manslaughter charge by Bragg if Penny were black.

Daniel Penny has some of the best nipples I’ve ever seen. Therefore, not guilty.

Of course. White guys who kill black guys always get off

[quote] I agree no manslaughter charge by Bragg if Penny were black.

Of course he would have. Someone died after being held in a chokehold for 6 minutes.

This really is about how America believes people with mental illness are disposable.

This wasn't like Eric Garner, the huge Black guy who got choked out on the sidewalk by the cops for protesting his arrest over selling individual cigarettes illegally to passersby. His suffocation by cops was a crime, and it was a disgraceful miscarriage of justice that those who killed Garner were not convicted.

This guy was in a subway train car acting totally psychotic and was threatening violence to anybody and everybody around him.

[quote] He should not have been charged in the first place. People want law and order

Killing people on the subway isn't law and order.

Want law and order--decrease weatlh disparities and treat mental health. Any society not willing to do these will bring crime upon itself

R25 typing from 1958.

R25 Not the cops who killed George Floyd and that other bright teenager in Florida.

All this talk of “Did what needed to be done.”

He needed to kill the guy?

His life is fucked anyway.

R28 Exactly. And not just merely threatening violence, Neely threatened to kill people. Hell just a few weeks ago, a mentally ill person killed 4 people in 3 seperate stabbings.

S/F brother

R29 how about blacks quit listening to rap and encouraging ghetto culture and actually raise kids with discipline and a major focus on education? The solution is in their own communities. How come every other “marginalized” group has lifted themselves up?

R30, "Racism ended with the election of a Black President!!!"

Knives should be regulated.

R37 it’s living in your mind 24/7

[quote] Not the cops who killed George Floyd and that other bright teenager in Florida.

The Floyd conviction came in the middle of massive, international protests. Sure there have been a sprinkling of others--but the white supremacy tide is coming back

R36 is here to foment racial animosity while cosplaying as a nice person

Alvin Bragg personifies the reasons we have Trump 2.0 upon us.

R32 I didn’t mean it like that. And I realize it kinda sounds fucked up. I mean in terms of protecting yourself and others from an unhinged individual.

[quote] ow about blacks quit listening to rap and encouraging ghetto culture and actually raise kids with discipline and a major focus on education? The solution is in their own communities. How come every other “marginalized” group has lifted themselves up?

How about giving Blacks the same educational and business opportunities so they can raise their wealth? Middle class and higher people have little reason to commit violent crimes. The country pushes them to the bottom of the economic rung because businesses basically need slaves to gain huge profits.

And thus, crimes continue

R36 Oh please boomer. This isn’t about hip-hop. Neely was mentally ill. Black people have lifted ourselves up after 500 years of slavery and terrorism.

Jordan Neely had been arrested at least 42 times, 4 for assault.

Matter of fact, at the time of his death Neely had an active warrant for assault.

Other crimes include:

August 2015 - arrested for trying to kidnap a 7 year old girl.

June 2019 - arrested for punching a 64 year old man in the face. ON THE SUBWAY.

2021 - punched a 67 year old woman in the face. ON THE SUBWAY.

Good FUCKING Riddance.

R44 they do. It’s called getting a job, building credit, saving and getting a loan.

[quote] Jordan Neely had been arrested at least 42 times, 4 for assault.

He's mentally ill and poor--this is par for the course. When you say "Good riddance," you make it seem like he chose this life.

Omg he was punching out old people. Some of those mentally ill be cowards. And I say that because I’ve seen it with my own eyes. They are mentally ill but they still know right from wrong and what will get them hurt. I’ve seen them come on the train and antagonize white people or people who look soft, maybe even overly fem styled gay dude. Jerome and Jesus with gold chains they don’t fuck with. They’ve done it to me because I looked fucking 15 until I was like 21. Well I should say they have tried to do it to me and gave em that look and they knew what time it was.

[quote]How about giving Blacks the same educational and business opportunities so they can raise their wealth?

Blacks have more educational opportunities than any other group. Thanks to Affirmative Action, they can get accepted to any school without even meeting the minimum standards.

R5 huh? What do you mean to say? Daniel Penny's what (?) wasn't justified? Penny's murderer?

Lord, God. He would have killed someone eventually.

Until every blq person is riding high like Diddy in 99, you all won’t be sufficed. You’re 13% of the population and want 100% of the resources. YOU HAVE TO MAKE SOME CHANGES YOURSELF! If reparations worked, welfare would be a resounding success. Build your own community. How is it that Indians and Asians show up in the US and make more than whites? You all victimize yourself over and over again. It’s fucking sad. Always demanding a white savior, and now even that is “racist”. Never has a group in the history of the world played victim more than BAs.

Mentally ill people who assault others should be in locked mental hospitals or prison. Not in the street.

A massive failure of America's healthcare system. Neely was mentally ill and he paid for it with his life.

[quote]He's mentally ill and poor--this is par for the course. When you say "Good riddance," you make it seem like he chose this life.

He may not have chosen it, but a normal civilized society doesn’t let people who are such a threat that they’ve been arrested 40+ times roam around free on the streets.

R53 Oh fuck off you stankin bitch. I shouldn’t respond to a troll but it’s all cultural. Black were systematically cut out of educational institutions and legitimate employment. I’m sure your racist ass is aware of all the thriving black towns, self own ed black business at the beginning of the 20th century that devilish whites came in and burned the entire town down because they were envious.

There is fault in many directions on this issue. Either way, he was a threat.

R57 oh that ONE town in Oklahoma?

The jury’s verdict shows that people aren’t going to put up with “soft on crime” policies anymore.

[quote] He may not have chosen it, but a normal civilized society doesn’t let people who are such a threat that they’ve been arrested 40+ times roam around free on the streets.

Just like America doesn't just stick all mentally ill people in hospitals, it doesn't keep everyone who has committed alot of little crimes in jail.

Daniel Penny’s parents taught him to defend innocent lives and led him to be a Marine, you make it seem like he chose this life.

See how that works? You fuckers are full of excuses. If you spent half as much time on hard work and self improvement as you do trying to grift some sympathy and anger out of woke folx you’d be ahead by miles.

[quote] Mentally ill people who assault others should be in locked mental hospitals or prison. Not in the street.

Thank Ronald Reagan for the change

R61 he had an active warrant at the time he died

[quote] Daniel Penny’s parents taught him to defend innocent lives and led him to be a Marine, you make it seem like he chose this life.

Penny didn't save any lives

R59 No just there. It happened in Florida, Louisiana, and Texas as well. The town in Oklahoma is just most famous because they were extremely prosperous. If you aren’t a troll and really stand by what you said, I don’t care about PC so it doesn’t offend me, you should watch the series Manhunt. It really shows you what blacks had to deal with and how the government gave them shit after slavery which is fucking cruel. Lincoln wanted to actually honor 40 acres and a mule. Anyone who likes compelling historical tv should watch it.

[quote] he had an active warrant at the time he died

Of course--he was mentally ill and poor. Of course he is going to keep committing crime. Killing him isn't the answer

Not* just there.

R63 yes, it was his fault. What does that prove? Democrats are now the ones who go “don’t touch him! Leave him!” about every POC loon ruining society.

R66 Teacake, that shit was over a fucking century ago. Get the fuck over it. The red carpet is laid out now. If people can escape genocide and come here to be successful so can you and yours.

Travesty of justice. When the crazy guy went slack, there was no reason to continue the choke hold. He was unconscious. And there were 3 big men in total control of the situation. Penny continued the choke hold and "accidentally" killed him.

R70 Troll I am successful just as most in my family. What are you even talking about. I was responding to a racist who made a blanketed racist ass comment. Were you the racist who made the comment? I don’t track comments from unsigned monikers.

R71 if the crazy guy were white and Marine were black, you’d be celebrating

R72 then what are you complaining about?

I have no choice but to respect the verdict, it was just so hard to see Michael Jackson die again.

R74 Bruh I don’t why you come on threads to troll or stalk. Follow the fucking thread. I am not explaining shit to you. Follow the comments from start to finish. Fucking weirdo.

R75 That’s cold 😂

Is there a civil case for the grieving family who still want justice??

[quote]Is there a civil case for the grifting family who still want $$$ ??

Fixed.

We sho is sad he dead, but some BIG BUCKS sho gwanna make it better!!! I sho won’t be crying in a new Bentley wurrin my furs.

[quote] Lord, God. He would have killed someone eventually.

Death penalty for Future Crime?

Interesting.

Some people have such scanty and emotionally-based ethical reasoning. Thus Trump reelected. It can be true that the victim was a public menace AND that Penny was wrong to kill him. He had successfully subdued him and there was no reason for the death. Witnesses commented - "you're going to kill him". The black dudes let up their grip. Penny snapped and continued his grip which killed the victim.

[quote] [R36] is here to foment racial animosity while cosplaying as a nice person

There is nothing nice about her comment.

There’s also nothing untrue about her comment.

R83 the truth ain’t nice sometimes, baby

[quote] Is there a civil case for the grieving family who still want justice??

Yes. He killed Jordan Neely. His cause of death was asphyxiation. He was in a chokehold for 6 minutes.

Bragg was naive to think he would get a conviction out of an NYC jury.

[quote] [R83] the truth ain’t nice sometimes, baby

Neither is racism masquerading as something other than racism.

It's complicated... like a lot of NYCers, when I know more about the deranged and disturbed homeless person's back story, I can feel a lot of compassion. Neely and his family's story is out there and it's a sad one.

But as a NYC subway rider? I wish these people did not exist. And I feel quite sure a majority of NYC subway riders would vote for targeted kill-and-remove if it were a secret-ballot vote. Hard truth.

[quote] Well I should say they have tried to do it to me and gave em that look and they knew what time it was.

A look that said "unless you want to be brutally sodomized, keep it moving..."

This isn't and shouldn't be about whether either person were black or white.

I do believe that Penny would have done the same thing if the person had been white or any other race.

If the deceased had mental health issues, it's sad that they weren't addressed. But, let's be clear, whether you're mentally ill and kill someone or sane and kill someone, the other person is just as dead.

Now, we can debate whether Penny's response was "proportional" or not. But, for those who don't think it was proportional, I question what other options there were under those conditions. It seems like the actual choices were to be ineffectual or this potentially "disproportional" response. Sometimes, there isn't a middle ground.

R89 we already had a vote and it was not secret. The country has moved on. The subways will be made safe. And if the city or state can’t deal with it the feds can call an emergency.

Physical safety is issue #1 #2 #3

R80 why did your cartoon ass give her Mississippi accent tho. She can’t be a granny from Brooklyn? Epic failure of parody btw.

R82 Neely is a Marine. Was he ever in combat? I wonder if some type of PTSD triggered and he just was unable to stop in that moment.

R87 He had no choice because when Al Sharpton and the grievance brigade make some noise they are pressured into bringing charges in front a grand jury. And a NYC grand jury will indict a fucking ham sandwich.

R89 we can think that emotionally but we are supposed to have a higher reasoning for ethics and justice.

In other words, it's the secrecy allowed in your hypothetically thought experiment that allows the vigilantism, because one is not held accountable for the meting out of justice or solutions in order to satisfy emotional or psychological needs.

I am not at all surprised the jury could not reach consensus and opted for acquittal. At least 50 of the 77 million trump voters voted a convicted felon and traitor back into the White House because he satisfies their emotional and psychological needs. He's certainly not going to give them solutions and presidential leadership.

I'm not sure why moral codes and ethical reasoning has degraded to this state. I suppose the decline of the church + poor schools/teachers + immoral and vulgar media culture, which is all about $$$$$$

R91 There is NO mystery what his choice was. It was clear. When Neely went slack and unresponsive, it was time to STOP THE FUCKING CHOKE HOLD. Why are people like you so obtuse. Penny started correctly then ended tragically. Minutes went by. There was plenty of time to realise the threat was neutralised but Penny did not let up.

R96 The jury has to go by the facts presented during trial. Self defense was established so the state was arguing that excessive force was applied and at some point Penny chose a lack of regard for Neely’s life. That is a very hard thing to prove because we won’t all die from chokeholds at the same length of time. It’s going to vary from person to person. It also becomes difficult to prove when the victim has threatened to kill people by multiple witnesses, patrons on the train.

Neely didn’t count on meeting someone as crazy as himself that day.

R99 I made a joke like that too when this first happened. Cause some of them marines be crazy as fuck.

I agree with most of that R98 but still think, based on everything I have read, Penny committed manslaughter.

R99 that about sums it up. Penny has a screw loose. And that is not me saying Neely wasn't a known pest and threat.

What I want to know is why the judge dropped the manslaughter charge when the jury had hung on it. They then found him not guilty of the lesser charge, negligible homicide which we can presume then they would have ultimately found him not guilty on manslaughter. Legal scholars can you weigh in. I’ve never heard of a jury hanging on a charge and then the judge just dropping it. Would the prosecution have to agree to it?

I think the DL members who have been in a vicious fight like this. And knew exactly when to let up during that vicious struggle are the ones who have the best insight.

Well, in case anyone is interested, I would guess that a Federal Civil Rights civil complaint will be filed against Penny (by Neely's parent et al) in what, anything from a week to a couple of months from now, at which point in time he will have to go through all of his all over again a second time around.

The bar on that is considerably lower, so if he just squeaked by on this one, the fed case is not going to be a party for him.

The police refused to resuscitate Neely because they thought they'd catch AIDS.

R105 This is abuse of the civil rights statues. We don’t know that Penny choked him out because we was black. He may have taken the same actions against any lunatic acting unhinged. He was born in 1999 for Christ sake.

But they can do so and may do so because I have a very close relative who works in that department.

They will file a civil rights complaint BECAUSE you have a relative who works somewhere? Check your grammar, hunty.

R109 check your cuntiness hunty. Federal prosecutors often bring civil rights charges against defendants who aren’t found guilty in state court, in racially charged scenarios.

R110 - Yes, which is what that other bag of shit, Kyle Rittenhouse, has discovered. R107 - Um, no. Ask any atty who does a lot of Fed. work.

[quote][R91] There is NO mystery what his choice was. It was clear. When Neely went slack and unresponsive, it was time to STOP THE FUCKING CHOKE HOLD. Why are people like you so obtuse.

Why are people like you so self-righteous?

[quote]Daniel Penny on the New York City subway for approximately one minute before he became unresponsive, with prosecutors arguing that Penny continued to apply the chokehold for a total of around six minutes even after Neely stopped moving

I stand by my previous point - that sometimes, there is no middle ground. I might concede the point if Penny were a police officer required to do ongoing training in subduing hostile people. But, the reality is that in the midst of a fight, you're not counting 1-mississippi, 2-mississippi.

The guy appeared to be a danger to other passangers. Is his death tragic - yes, but because he may have had unaddressed mental illness that put him on the train making those threats. It should never have come to that situation in the first place. But, once there, he was a danger and Penny did what he thought was necessary.

He thought it was necessary to kill him.

What damages did Neely's family suffer that entitles them to a settlement? They were never concerned about him when he lived on the streets.

No cops on the subway? Citizens have to step in and defend each other. This is what you end up with. The dead guy was a real threat.

In other news an entire area of a city seemed to go batshit nuts with fear the other day because 4 trucks with Trump signs drive thru weho? JHC what if they actually posed a real threat?

I go with the Marine on this one.

Wow. White psycho killer gets off.

It’s like NYC is the Jim Crow south.

What was the make up of the jury?

R112, apparently the train was in a station and the doors were open. If any passenger felt threatened they could’ve gotten off the train. Other passengers warned Penny he was killing him but he didn’t let up.

This was a crime of rage. Not self-defence.

R116 you’re insane

I think he took it too far, but the prosecutors should have tried less serious charges.

R111 That’s just my opinion. And it opposes my very close family member who works there.

Not true at all

A bleeding heart Social Worker-friend went nuts when he heard the verdict. Told him "hope there's no Daniel Penny around when you're attacked on the train."

R122 you have just described the election results. And fewer and fewer are standing with the bleeding hearts.

The Dems becoming smaller and smaller while the gop grows.

Finally! Common sense reigns!!!

Excellent news. A win for common sense.

"And fewer and fewer are standing with the bleeding hearts."

And if standing with the bleeding hearts means not having to stand with racist, xenophobic assholes like you, count me in on the bleeding hearts, and proudly so.

The mark of a civilization is how it treats its most vulnerable citizens, so apparently you are an uncivilized savage if killing mentally disturbed people is okay in your book.

Common sense! With a soupçon, a slight whiff, of Aktion T4

I don't consider a grown man threatening people's lives to be as vulnerable as you think it is R126.

R109 I think you may not realize I am also r107.

I was snarking about your completely illogical causal statement. The "because". But you are too cracked out to write coherently, TeaFake.

R1233 Dive and conquer. Been doing since the beginning of time. And since the stupid ass Dems won’t be real about shit, they’re going to continue to lose non black minorities. I hope not though. They will not win national elections with just Ivy League whites and upper echelon blacks.

[quote]The mark of a civilization is how it treats its most vulnerable citizens

Exactly R126

The vulnerable citizens were those who had been had been attacked and threatened over the years by this psycho:

August 2015 - arrested for trying to kidnap a 7 year old girl.

June 2019 - arrested for punching a 64 year old man in the face. ON THE SUBWAY.

2021 - punched a 67 year old woman in the face. ON THE SUBWAY.

THOSE are the vulnerable people as well as those who were threatened on the subway.

Daniel Penny: Not Guilty

It's odious enough that you are arguing that Penny took care of a pest and menace that NYC could not solve. However, Penny knew none of this guy's history. Penny is a rando who snapped and killed this subway freak, rather than let up when the menace was contained.

R128: I don't consider a groveling, sniveling vigilante coward like you who takes pleasure is seeing other people murdered in cold blood to be the delicate, hot house flower you pretend to be.

Penny is hot and a former Marine doing his civic duty. He needs to be Free!

Except I dont take pleasure in it you hysterical cunt R126. It's unfortunate it got to that point but it's what had to be done given the circumstance.

Yes!!!!

He is ugly.

Wrong, R117. The whole situation, instigated by Neely threatening to kill people, started before they got in the station and the innocent, law abiding people had no place to go.

Here's a buffoon doing the same shit as Neely, threatening violence against innocent people. This racist piece of shit needs to be arrested for inciting violence.

Suck It black folks, now we even!

R36 But Neely was listening to Michael Jackson tho. Heheee 🎼

R123 - I wonder what your family members will think when someone walks up to you and slits your throat from one ear to the because you're just another sleaze phag, and they certainly don't deserve to live.

Here comes bigot R142 who needs to go find someone of the opposite sex, breed and fuck off for life.

[quote] Penny didn't save any lives

He tried, which is a good second.

[quote]Penny didn't save any lives

R65 apparently has a time machine that allows him to see alternate realities, including one in which Penny didn't do anything.

Because otherwise how could he know whether or not Penny saved any lives?

I hope Dafna Yoran, that dyke Jew prosecutor, gets reprimanded or censored for referring to Daniel as "the White man" in court several times. You'd think the daughter of a Holocaust survivor would be wise to the dangers of identity politics.

^^^It should have "that grotesquely ugly dyke..."

Who are you calling a dyke, faggot? R147

JFC, are you guys all Trumpers or just the most openly racist fucks I've ever burned my eyeballs reading on DL??

I'm blocking this thread.

R149 Is blocking this thread! Did you all hear that?

R149 Good, go away if you can't tolerate opinions thatv are different from yours.

Jackie Hoffman needs to play Dafna in the Ryan Murphy miniseries.

R104 Boy bye 😂 This must be parody. I know only 10% of this site has ever been a fight. Hell I actually suspect our lesbian regulars have been more fights than your average male datalounger.

R148, I can't believe people can say this shit in a court of law and an attorney knows she can get away with this blatant racism. People say racist shit about White people openly in public and no one calls them on it.

- R146

R149 oh no. Please reconsider. WTF would this thread be like without you posting. Please say it ain’t so Joe.

R153 10%? Fist fight or word fights?

I go with less than 5%. There might be a small tiny minuscule handful that have actually been in a fight since fourth grade and then maybe with another boy, , Fights to the death. Less than 0% ? Not less but close.

But the slappers and the snappy word-smiths can still lecture on how it should have been done in a real fight,

R153, I wonder how many on this site have had a gun pointed at them, been beat up, verbally harassed, robbed, or been in a similar situation as what happened on the F train, which happens more frequently than people realize.

R157 far too many times to count. It’s not the gun being pointed at you that is the issue it’s the sight of tracers heading your way.

R157 I was just making a joke. Crime statistics suggest New York is at one of its lowest in history. I don’t know I haven’t lived in the NYC in over a decade.

Does the lady still come on the F train with that big ass drum. “I’m so broke, it ain’t no joke” she used to say.

There’s Been 386 Murders in NYC Since Jordan Neely. 91% or 326 Have Been black Victims and black Perps. Why don’t they protest themselves?

Because there’s no money in that r160

White guilt makes millions for grifters of any race

R161 It’s not that. It is just that all those perps are either being prosecuted or still sought out by police. And most of them will get locked up either through plea deals or guilty verdicts. The protest in this case has to do with the extremity in which Penny seem to “finish him off”. He wouldn’t release him from the chokehold once subdued. We weren’t there so it’s up to speculation and a jury said the state didn’t prove their case.

Danny has a fan in incest gay porn actor/rent boi Jared Fetterolf whose claim to fame as Rosso Twins was getting fucked & sucking cock with his identical twin brother. In MAGA world only the best whores.

This ugly white blond fuck has been made out a hero by the MAGA crowd on Twitter.

Perhaps Jared and his twin brother can coax Danny into a scene.

Anyone who still supports the corrupt BLM movement is out of their minds.

Of course the mugshot for assaulting his straight twins wife is MAGAT de rigueur.

We’re getting way off topic here

MAGAT "no homo" if kept among white family members for cash only.

The topic is guilty hypocritial racist closeted MAGT scum like R166 who support and encourage murderous same.

The topic is posters like R170 who WW themselves multiple times immediately after they post.

R171 Russie you're back. Right where we'd expect you,

R172 blacks commit most of the crimes in this country, despite being only 13% of the population

He did a public service. r170 would've been clutching his parasol and shaking if a thug on the subway ever breathed on him. Pussy.

blacks are convicted for committing most of the crimes in this country, despite being only 13% of the population

fixed for the racist MAGAT R173

R170 is either a black who benefits from woke shit or a white who was always rejected by his peers so this “Diversity is our strength” method of getting rid of whitey is his anarchy move

R175 yes and commit. You’re obviously insane.

In NYC it's not the white trash from Staten Island causing all the mayhem on the streets and the subway.

R174 your wet dream . Frustrating for ya Pa Paw?

r180 you need an enema.

[quote]A bleeding heart Social Worker-friend went nuts when he heard the verdict. Told him "hope there's no Daniel Penny around when you're attacked on the train."

What a friendly thing to say.

I saw that there may be a federal civil rights investigation to look into why a Good Samaritan was accused of a crime and specifically if the prosecution was racially motivated. A DA is not above the law and hopefully Bragg will be held accountable.

R168 why off topic? these guys are your peers🤡

The extreme progressives only ever want one solution: give the blacks tons of money and all the power and allegedly then everything will be perfect. Do it. They’d be blaming whitey for something else the next day or bitching about the same shit and asking for more, plus drunk with power and abusing the fuck out of it. The black community needs to regulate itself. It’s not 2020 anymore, BLM is old news and outed as grifters. Move on and take some accountability. Black community will see 75 black-on-black murders, 24 black-on-white murders and then 1 white-on-black manslaughter and that’s the one they’ll scream about for years. Fuck your reparations, we done been paid ‘em.

R185 What progressives want to give blacks a ton of money and power. I’ll wait.

R185 Were you a victim of a violent crime. I’m just curious why you are so anti-black?

Any West Coast democrat politicians r186

R183 - Good fucking luck with that. The collection of stupids here apparently are not aware that mental disability is also a protected class along with race.

PS Penny is going to get dropped feet-first through a meat grinder if he is sued in Federal court for a civil rights violation. They will focus on the disability class, and ignore the race.

R188 Oh dear. To both the message and the you know…

R189, well, it would still be nice to see Bragg indicted for violating Penny’s civil rights, even if he’s not convicted.

Penny's first post-acquittal interview goes to ... Jeanine Pirro.

^^^Who were you expecting? The racist Joyless Reid? The Spew?

Next up for indictment should be Tit James for using bullshit laws against Trump for those mortgages

Physical and verbal harassment and threats are not that rare on the subway. They shouldn't happen at all. Here's an upstanding member of society...

R195 I lived in NYC recently for about 3 years, and I'm getting legit PTSD watching that video...I love NY with all my heart but DEAR GOD did I hate dealing with that shit.

R195 R196 and it’s always a…

I've lived here all my life. I had the same reaction. It brought back some bad memories and sense of fear, helplessness and diminishment.

- R195

R197 I suppose that is likely due to the fact that batshit whites in general are more likely to be residing in institutions as they are more likely to be able to afford the care they need. Not to mention drug use, which can lead to this type of behavior, tends to be more prevalent with the poor.

Once again, though, race is used as a distraction to the much more serious, bigger issue that is the abhorent state of mental health care in the U.S cities. Had the "victim" been where he needed to be, receiving the help he needed, this wouldn't have had to happen. That's what BLM should be protesting.

Did I miss the part of the Bible where the Good Samaritan choked the traveler to death?

[quote]Physical and verbal harassment and threats are not that rare on the subway. They shouldn't happen at all. Here's an upstanding member of society...

That guy deserved to tackled and brought to the ground.

Maybe have police on the subway? Lots of police. Not citizens having to protect themselves with no police around during these attacks.

That would be very nice but the left would screech ACAB and no government wants to pay for extra policing.

People are on their own. No one is coming to save us. Arm yourself and be prepared to kill to defend yourself and your loved ones.

R203 safety physical safety is something tax payers will support as their #1 need. And seriously after losing the entire fed govt in the recent election who gives a fuck what the left is crying about?.

Who is going to come up with the money r204?

Contact your politicians who represent you and tell us what they say.

Yet another..

Compassion has limits.

So-called Christians

Here's your innocent, man of the people, hero:

[quote]Reese Gorman

[quote]@reesejgorman

[quote]New: VP-Elect JD Vance has invited Daniel Penny to be his personal guest at the Army-Navy game this weekend, per source familiar.

[quote]They will be joining President Trump in his suite at the game.

You ever sat outside for an army navy game? Oh it can be truly miserable. A warm luxury box with catered food is the way to go.

And why was Penny invited and not Harris? IMO they decided to go with the more popular one.

[quote] Here's your innocent, man of the people, hero:

Is there something nefarious about being recognized for having done a good deed?

Trump is sending a message to the country:

"Vice President-elect JD Vance on Friday said that he had invited Daniel Penny, a former Marine who was acquitted this week on a charge of criminally negligent homicide after putting a man in a chokehold in a New York subway car, to attend the Army-Navy football game on Saturday with him."

"The two will join President-elect Donald J. Trump in a suite at the game, which is set to be played this year just outside of Washington."

He wasn’t trying to kill the guy. A marine can knock someone out with a chokehold in a few seconds. According to Penny and the witnesses, he was holding him down until the cops, who took forever to arrive, came. Otherwise, why hold on to a guy with a stank from hell for six minutes I’d you don’t have to??? One of the witnesses described the stench from this guy. The situation probably got away from him. But he had good intentions.

Neeley died of fentanyl toxicity

And craziness

R209 an example of how far the US left is from the country they live in. An example of why 2028 will not be a happy time for whatever is left of the dem party.

I feel like I’m living in a parallel universe when something like R211 is said with apparent sincerity

Not parallel at all. You are just part of a losing minority that is getting smaller every day. You must think that losing minority is the real america?

R216

Yes, I"m aware that the world is growing dumber and crueler every day, R217

This thread is yet another example of "God fearing Americans" and their blood lust for violence and cruelty.

Exactly who is the depraved animal here? The mentally unstable homeless person, the vigilante marine or the other subway riders who got a thrill out of watching the incident and couldn't wait to get home and tell their family and friends about it and post about it on social media?

R219, subway riders just want to get to their destination in peace without being assaulted, threatened or traveling through a version of filthy hell. In a sane world, Neely would be in a psychiatric institution for life. The city spent tens of thousands on him, setting him up with housing and outpatient care, he walked away. Many of us have experienced these moments of threat, fear, diminishment by these fucking losers. They have no right to do this to others. If they do, they'll experience the consequences. Fuck them.

Your a fool talking out of your ass.

R218 life on the losing side friend. Now you need to learn to pace yourself because you will be in for many years of this. This is not a two or four year blip.

Winners and losers more so than good and evil. Very few ever see their side as not being the good side. Hardly anyone ever sees their side as the evil side.

With winners and losers you have a score to go by. They won .

[quote]Exactly who is the depraved animal here?

You. For your ridiculous post at R219.

Psychotic nuts are all over NYC threatining people and destroying the quality of life. If we were a humane country we would have psychiatric villages to house these people for life and keep them out of society. But we're not a humane country. Housing for the mentally ill is never going to happen in any of our lifetimes and they're just going to be wild in the streets.

Daniel Penny saw a threat and acted on it while all of you virtue signaling twats would have probably been screaming and crying and playing victim. He's a real man who stood up and neutralized a very real threat and likely saved lives, if not right there and then but in the future.

All of you prisspot keyboard warriors can go back and discuss 30 year old episodes of Designing Women, but be grateful that there are men who don't put up with shit and act like men when it's neccesary.

R223 they all have feminine logic not based in reality that unless a threat is direct to them they think there is some magical solution.

R223 You told not one motherfucking lie. The fact that NO ONE on that train has publicly condemned Penny is very telling. They saw how that shit went down.

MCMAP works

R223, R224 and R225: getting their jollies vicariously through Daniel Penny as they pound their keyboards in self-righteous fury in their 3000/month 5th floor walk up studio apartment with shared hallway bath.

Where exactly did life go wrong for you queens? And shouldn't you be at work? I mean it is the 2nd Saturday before Christmas and shop bottoms at Nasty Pig are usually at work by now.

R227 It’s Saturday and what the fuck are you talking about.

Nice try at deflection r227. Probably says more about you than you know. I'm weekending at my house in CT. My apartment in Midtown is more than you'll ever be able to afford.

BTW Nasty Pig shut down years ago, not that I ever went there.

r227 adds nothing. As I'm sure he's been told his entire life.

"BTW Nasty Pig shut down years ago, not that I ever went there."

HELP ME. MY EYES HAVE ROLLED ALL THE WAY TO THE BACK OF MY HEAD!!!

Daniel Penny was special guest of Trump and Vance for the Army Navy game

R232 Pathetic btw. Trump is pathetic.

R234 Is your mama still popping that pussy in the upper enclaves of Westchester county?

R227 is hilariously pathetic

[Quote] blacks commit most of the crimes in this country, despite being only 13% of the population

Poor people commit most crimes in every country, throughout history

[Quote] Daniel Penny saw a threat

The subways riders who took that train daily knew him as a crazy guy, not a real threat

[quote]Poor people commit most crimes in every country, throughout history

Poverty is not an excuse. There is little real poverty in the US. And there are plenty of people without much who would never think of harming another.

It is a moral and cultural issue.

R237 all true...kind of makes you wonder if the divisive bs race obsessed rhetoric isn't the answer.

[Quote] Poverty is not an excuse. There is little real poverty in the US. And there are plenty of people without much who would never think of harming another. It is a moral and cultural issue.

The morality and culture is created by poverty. We ALL would commit crimes if we had that background. This has been borne out by looking at culture after culture, all over the world. The middle class and above have no reason to commit violent crimes

[Quote] all true...kind of makes you wonder if the divisive bs race obsessed rhetoric isn't the answer.

Or else is makes you wonder why some races seem to remain poor and why the culture keeps them poor

R223, I've posted a few times on this thread on The DL and avoid revealing too many facts about my life given the crazies on this site.

I have been a psychiatric nurse in NYC for a decade. I completely agree with you and I have been an advocate for humane asylums. Most mentally ill people are not violent, but some are, especially when drugs are involved. There is a fairly large population of the mentally ill that the old model of asylums with humane living situations, access to nature, routines, etc. is the best we can give.

Freddie DeBoer (unlinkable):

"I still believe that the most important lesson to take from [Neely's] story is that the structural resistance to involuntary commitment that liberals have inculcated is unspeakably cruel, that it kills. (Had the ward he was confined to by judge’s act been locked, he would be alive today; he lost his life for the price of a deadbolt, thanks to “disability activists.”)

It remains the case that Daniel Penny did not need to kill him, and I wanted him convicted on at least some charge. Of course, conservatism being the home of moral lepers, Penny has been made into a folk hero who is celebrated with none of the complications or provisos or scolding that attends the lionization of Mangione.

I am trapped between liberals who summon compassion for Jordan Neely by lying about just how deeply broken he was and conservatives who refuse to summon compassion for him at all."

R242 that would make sense...if there wasn't actual poor white people, dumb dumb

*weren't

I love Freddie DeBoer (he writes on Substack, for anyone who's interested). He suffers from bipolar disorder and knows the struggle of mental health from the inside, including having spent time in institutions.

He's written extensively, and angrily about the "compassion" that says people who are obviously too fucked-up to care for themselves shouldn't be made to do anything they don't want to do. They can sleep on a snowy sidewalk in winter; they can shoot up in their necks because their arms and legs are necrotic, and then hunch over in a near-death zombie state; they can shuffle around barefoot in shit-caked clothes screaming in rage at anyone and anything. But it's "compassionate" to leave them to it, if they don't want to go to a shelter or to treatment.

My personal definition of "compassion" is: If this person was my son or daughter, my sister or father, what would I want to see happen to them? Would I want them to be able to refuse treatment, even if it meant dying literally on the street?

Freddie de Boer argues that, for so many "compassionate" progressives, the answer is yes. The will of a desperately sick, mentally impaired, trauma-scarred, drug-addled individual must never be violated, or it's not "compassionate."

And as for the working people who daily witness this drug use, stacks of dirty needles, fires, random piles of human shit, terrifying and often threatening behavior? They are privileged, so they don't deserve "compassion."

[quote]The morality and culture is created by poverty. We ALL would commit crimes if we had that background.

You have that wrong. In the US for the most part, that lack of morality and that culture CREATES the poverty.

We need to totally take care of first break schizophrenia kids. Stop the sale of marijuana. Create humane asylums for the psychotic mentally ill.

R219 You're a sucker and a virtue signaler, and I blame people like you for having lost us the trust of the American people as well as these last elections.

Culture is destiny.