Jay-Z accused in a civil lawsuit of raping a 13-year-old

Oh my God. This can’t be true. 13?

Everyone is guilty until proven innocent. But what’s funny is all you bitches will act horrified yet defended Roman Polanski for running from sentencing.

Why am I not surprised?

KNEW IT!!!!!

The mighty have fallen, and it's about fucking time!

Take THAT, BeYAWNce!

[QUOTE]you bitches will act horrified yet defended Roman Polanski for running from sentencing.

I've been on Datalounge for 21 years now and I don't recall any defense of Polanski in any way shape or form. The exact opposite, actually.

That little girl was me!

R5, that poster is talking out of their ass.

So it’s now 100 problems.

Hmm. Well I don't know what to say.

r8 👆

I'm cumming as I type.

I can believe that he did some bad things while he was friendly with Sean Combs. They fell out in the early 2000s and I just can’t see him doing the things that R. Kelly and Combs did on their own —Sex trafficking on large scale. He seemed too smart for that. Let alone Beyoncé running a harem for him. That just seems ridiculous.

But was it, well you know

I never believed the whole faithful husband bullshit. He’s a criminal.

[quote]you bitches will act horrified yet defended Roman Polanski for running from sentencing.

It's the Hollywood elites who have defended Polanski for decades, not DLers.

Look. I remember a very long time ago in the early days of YOu Tube, before Jay Z ever hooked up with Beyonce and remade his image, there was candid video on You tube of Jay Z and three or four of his guys, in some house walking down a hallway, or whatever and some girl was arguing with him and he started beating on her. It was mean and excessive and unnecessary. It was one of t hose, "How dare you raise your voice to question me, bitch!" type reactions. I was shocked. It disappeared long ago, but I saw it more than once. It was pretty graphic. Not a one off.

J’Accused-Z

I filed this under T for "Things I saw a coming a mile away"....

NFL will cut ties with him immediately if this gains more traction, which it most likely will.

There have been rumors for years that he has gotten with underage women. Foxy Brown to name one. Beyonce also is rumored to have gotten with him when she was underage. He's also rumored to have several other kids with various side pieces.

This can’t be true! Rolling Stone just named Beyoncé the number 1 pop star of the century!

The Daily Mail FINALLY posted their version of this; surprised they were late to the races on this story.

DiddinDuNuffin

[quote] He's also rumored to have several other kids with various side pieces.

r19 that's a shame, because his ugly DNA definitely doesn't need to be replicated.

Ugly inside and out.

I guess I was too grown up for him.

Rap music is an under appreciated art form.

I knew it.

R19 Beyonce did not get with him when she were underage. She didn’t meet him until she was 19 yrs old you dumb fuck.

B will leave him.

Beyonce's constant brand deals and shilling again makes sense now.

Another Kamala supporter.

He better not get in an elevator with Solange in the near future.

BigYAWNce, no Album Of The Year Grammy for you.

It would be great if this Diddy shit takes down both JLo and Beyonce.

R32 this was her big chance too

r33 agreed.

🤣 I wonder if Jay Z will make a public comment about how the Grammys got it wrong this year lol r32

I can't even imagine either one of those naked with hard-ons, I'm vomiting in my mouth right now.

She was offered a drink that made her feel “woozy, lightheaded and felt [like] she needed to lie down,” the suit says, and she went into a room to rest.

Shortly afterward, the suit says, Combs and Carter entered the room with Combs saying, “You are ready to party!”

That’s when, she alleges, Carter removed her clothes, held her down and raped her while Combs and an unnamed female celebrity watched. She says Combs also raped her as Carter and the woman looked on.

JLo or Beyoncé watching?

He’s a satanist and so is B, she’s a witch. These are not good people.

LSA is losing dey shit. Multiple threads and one already has nearly 800 replies.

The floodgates are opening now. The pile on for JZ will be wild.

A crack dealer who sold drugs to his own mama…

[quote]B will leave him

Why'd she ever marry him in the first place? Should have known her own worth.

Jay-Z raped me.

R29 For the past 20 years? Get a life.

R30 you were saying cunt?

R32 You are an idiot if you think this will affect her AOTY.

R46 pointing fingers won’t save your gurl, Beyoncé.

[quote]B will leave him.

She won't.

Teacake is in a tizzy.

R48 I’m pointing out hypocrisy bitch. Keep up.

Did Bey watch it happen?

Do we think the female celebrity present was Beyonce or JLo?

[quote]Carter removed her clothes, held her down and raped her while Combs and an unnamed female celebrity watched.

Who's the unnamed female celebrity?

Bey was probably getting them to traffic her some private school lacrosse dick

[quote]He's also rumored to have several other kids with various side pieces.

Gross. They're probably even uglier than Blue Ivy.

Attention DL Legal Counsel: Do we think Jay-Z had an opportunity to just pay a settlement to the accuser, just to make this go away without the public finding out?

Uh oh. It's happening.

This is a modern-day lynching.

It's hard to take this stuff seriously when we just elected a felon/rapist as president. Maybe Jay should run for office.

Yes officer, I’m sure that’s him!

R59 And you are a modern day loser. You do realize the president elect raped a woman right.

Bill Clinton, whom I like, also raped. Those women from the 70s are not lying. He forcibly raped them. Time forgives.

I think the watcher was Beyonce.

You cunts do realize Beyonce was only 19 yrs old in 2000 right. And actually for most of the year only 18.

The Queen was on a world tour with Britney Spears in the year 2000. She didn’t meet Jay until the fall.

He sho’ is ugly

[quote] I never believed the whole faithful husband bullshit. He’s a criminal.

Beyonce's had a song about him cheating on her, so I think it was public that he was with at least one other woman.

jayz also admitted to it. So...

I feel sorry for Jay and Beyonce's kids. They certainly didn't ask to be born into such shitty genetics.

R67 The main theme of the Lemonade album was his infidelity. They have both publicly discussed this. That poster is an idiot.

You just know Jay Z has a HUGE dick. Bey wouldn't be with someone that ugly without him packing big time.

Which means we must at least forgive some of his transgressions.

This is DL after all.

It's about power and money.

R70 you make her sound like a whore. Beautiful women like charismatic influential men. Most truly beautiful straight women aren’t attracted to male looks. Not all but a lot of them.

I was molested.

It was probably Jennifer Lopez. She has a lot of darkness and a hatchet face.

They must have pictures of who was at that awards show.

Solange was right all along

[quote] Beyoncé is a superstar for a reason, but with that can come some pretty odd touring requests.

[quote] Fans were in hysterics when it was revealed that Beyoncé, 42, was having toilet seats brought to her on tour as part of her luggage.

[quote] A source told The Sun in August: 'Beyoncé is such an elite performer she can literally request anything.

[quote] 'Her team makes great effort to ensure she has her own comforts and a personal toilet seat happens to be one.

[quote] 'Her tour roadies have seen everything so it's not a great deal for them, but it does raise a smile from people who happen to catch a glimpse of the branded container.'

[quote] Beyoncé transports her toilet seats in a customised golf buggy which is covered in black sheets to protect her bizarre request when travelling around backstage.

R77 what the fuck does that prove. You could never go to law school. Could you even do community college. Doubtful.

Guilty

I don't see Bey being a "watcher." I am not a fan but I don't think she is a pervert. I do think she is quite pretty.

Jay-Z’s official statement.

Beyonce might not be a pervert, but I can see her going along for the ride.

When you're exposed to that much power and wealth, there's just more freaky (and illegal) stuff that is available to you.

Exactly my point, r82.

Fuck off, TeaCack. Your "Queen" is about to go down.

You are an idiot. Beyoncé did not know Jay like that in 2000. And this whole shit might be blackmail anyways. But she didn’t even know him like that and they certainly weren’t dating then. I watched MTV. I grew up with these artists you fucking loser.

His statement is odd. Far too many exclamation points.

r84 just because you "grew up with these artists" doesn't make them godly or above reproach.

I know it might be a shock to your system, but there is good reason to believe that Beyonce knew/knows what kind of person the Diddler and her husband were/are.

[Quote] I watched MTV. I grew up with these artists you fucking loser.

The defense calls AlienOnMars to the stand.

R86 never said that. Never said it. Reread what I said. Jay-Z and Beyonce were not together in the year 2000. I don’t think they even knew each other yet. I know when they started dating.

I thought teacup said it was leaving after the election.

Kanye is probably relieved that he became persona non grata (JayZ and Beyonce) gave Kanye and Kim the cold shoulder.

Must be hard to be the attorney of these celebrities who always feel the need to put out a statement - that they wrote, themselves.

Then again, I'm sure the attorney just deposited a huge retainer.

r88:

[quote] The former Destiny's Child star previously told Seventeen that they met when she was 18, which would have been between September of 1999 and August of 2000.

R92 ok they still weren’t dating yet. Bitch. I said she may have known him. They were not dating in 2000.

[quote] "We were friends first for a year and a half before we went on any dates," the singer also told Oprah Winfrey in 2013.

I know when they started dating. It was in late 2001 when DC got off that MTV tour with Nelly.

you're wrong. just admit it.

and she knew.

He won me over when he took me to one of his ratings.

Goddamit, rapings.

I wonder if Teacake has ever received a restraining order. Seems . . . rather intense.

R94 No. that makes exactly what I said correct. And she is talking about being friend in late 2001 when they were working on something together. I know what I am talking about. But even so it would make what I said correct. Carry on cunt.

I can't wait to be here when it's revealed that Beyonce is the unnamed celebrity and you completely lose your shit.

Likely the reason why she wasn't named was because she was just 18 at the time, and the victim realized she was still kind of a kid herself.

Fasten your seatbelts, it's going to be a bumpy year...

Sad that you are wishing for that to be true. I live in reality. If it is true they will both be dead to me. And unlike you, I’m not a loser and I have money so I don’t look forward to a celeb’s downfall. We shall see as the facts unfold.

Last comment was for r101.

Teacake/R104 etc, remember back when you were pretending to be a Christian? You were slightly less unbearable then.

R105 ????????????? I’m always a Christian. Please seek professional help. I’m not bashing either. Please. 🙏

[quote] So we have

[quote] Foxy Brown at 15

[quote] Aaliyah at 15

[quote] Beyonce at maybe 16-17 but he definitely started dating her at 19

[quote] Now his alleged's OOW son's mother who was 15 when she started dealing with him

[quote] Who else?

[quote] This is seriously a pattern and not a deniable one.

Jay-Z did not date Aaliyah at 15. You are lying.

Beyoncé was at the 2000 MTV awards. She even worked the red carpet and interviewed Aaliyah.

Will she file for divorce?

R110 Not if it ain’t true. I’ve never seen someone release a press release so fast lol. I believe him but if it is true he will be OVAH as the drag queens say.

If she was smart, she would r110. She would run the fuck away from this mess so fast, she'd break Olympic records.

Let's see if she will "Stand By Her Man."

JLo's strategy is to keep generating headlines about her "tough year" and how she's trying to move on by posing in revealing outfits/dresses.

You know that Bey, Jay, Tina, and Solange aren’t sleeping tonight. Definitely having a pow-wow with crisis PR.

JLo and Bey will be called for deposition and might have to testify.

His statement doesn't actually deny any of the allegations

LSA is up to 2k posts. Those crazy paranoid bitches will solve all this.

[quote] As for Jay-Z, if this is true, I'm not surprised. Jay-Z's preference for underage girls has always been known in the Black community. He messed with Foxy when she was underage, and the mother of the young man that is suing Jay-Z for paternity was underage at the time that Jay-Z allegedly impregnated her. Jay-Z and Puffy are CLOSE FRIENDS and are similar as narcissistic, egotistical, arrogant Black men who have used and abused people to get ahead.

I thought all the people saying he’d be the next named were Beyoncé haters and full of it but I guess I was wrong

[quote]I never believed the whole faithful husband bullshit.

r14 He wasn't faithful. He admitted this on 4:44 which came after Beyonce's Lemonade album exposed it.

@TonyBuzbee2

Regarding the Jay Z case and his efforts to silence my clients: Mr. Carter previously denied being the one who sued me and my firm. He filed his frivolous case under a pseudonym. What he fails to say in his recent statement is my firm sent his lawyer a demand letter on behalf of an alleged victim and that victim never demanded a penny from him. Instead, she only sought a confidential mediation. Since I sent the letter on her behalf, Mr. Carter has not only sued me, but he has tried to bully and harass me and this plaintiff. His conduct has had the opposite impact. She is emboldened. I’m very proud of her resolve.

As far as the allegations in the complaint filed, we will let the filing speak for itself and will litigate the facts in court, not in the media.

A rapper abusing a girl/woman? Shocking

R105, I’m surprised he didn’t say, I’m a Christian, you lying cunt!

r122 well, he already invoked the Holy MTV and saying he grew up with it, so it mustn't be true!!

What’s true is I don’t indict someone until all the facts are known.

Good one @R8

ON THE RUN, indeed.

LSA has a couple full decks of race cards tonight:

“They just trying to take down Black power couples and Black stars.”

Jay said he got time today.

What [Buzbee] had calculated was the nature of these allegations and the public scrutiny would make me want to settle,” he told us.

what's the saying about turds rising to the top?

He’s so ugly there’s no reason for Beyoncé to be with him.

From LSA:

I've been saying this for years as someone who works in marketing. The African American community should really file a class action lawsuit against the major labels for this. They deliberately helped ruin the black community for at least 2 generations thanks to this demonic music. We can ALL see the difference in treatment from bm to bw from before gangsta rap came out to now.

The prison rates went up, marriage went down, abuse went up, etc since gangsta rap was promoted and then replaced all rap around 1992. Evil bastarss. And JAY was one of the forefront demonic fathers leading the charge. Eff him and the clique he claim!

He’s sure talking a lot. Good legal advice would be to shut up and release a prepared statement. He’s going rogue. He thinks he can settle this with intimidation like it’s the streets. The stench of this not going away. JayZ is cooked.

Beyoncé’s best move, if her hands are semi-clean, is to run and reframe herself as a modern day Tina Turner.

Eminently plausible. Rap is vile misogynistic crap.

r131 Where is the lie?

R132 That’s what makes me think he is innocent.

His statement was quite good, I think. Not a generic denial.

Also, in that post r131 is referencing this is what they were responding to:

[quote]One of my friends & mentors a producer (he like 43 im 26 & a singer myself working on his debut) who worked in the music industry 20+ years. He told me that label bosses DELIBERATELY promote degeneracy to the black community & artists that spoke positivity in their music werent given the marketing budget nor facilities needed for their work.

Ice Cube said this exact same thing. I, too, know a few in the music industry who have said similar. It's wicked what they've promoted through music to the Black community. And yes, I agree, everyone is responsible for their own actions. But music definitely influences behavior. It's powerful. Music has both the power to heal and the power to destroy.

Kanye also hinted at similar in "Jesus Walks" in the last verse.

[quote]They say you can rap about anything except for Jesus. That means guns, sex, lies, video tape, but if I talk about God my record won't get played? Huh?

My lawyer received a blackmail attempt, called a demand letter, from a "lawyer" named Tony Buzbee. What he had calculated was the nature of these allegations and the public scrutiny would make me want to settle. No sir, it had the opposite effect! It made me want to expose you for the fraud you are in a VERY public fashion. So no, I will not give you ONE RED PENNY!! These allegations are so heinous in nature that I implore you to file a criminal complaint, not a civil one!! Whomever would commit such a crime against a minor should be locked away, would you not agree? These alleged victims would deserve real justice if that were the case. This lawyer, who I have done a bit of research on, seems to have a pattern of these type of theatrics! I have no idea how you have come to be such a deplorable human Mr. Buzbee, but I promise you I have seen your kind many times over. I'm more than prepared to deal with your type. You claim to be a marine?! Marines are known for their valor, you have neither honor nor dignity. My only heartbreak is for my family. My wife and I will have to sit our children down, one of whom is at the age where her friends will surely see the press and ask questions about the nature of these claims, and explain the cruelty and greed of people. I mourn yet another loss of innocence. Children should not have to endure such at their young age. It is unfair to have to try to understand inexplicable degrees of malice meant to destroy families and human spirit. My heart and support goes out to true victims in the world, who have to watch how their life story is dressed in costume for profitability by this ambulance chaser in a cheap suit. You have made a terrible error in judgement thinking that all "celebrities" are the same. I'm not from your world. I'm a young man who made it out of the project of Brooklyn. We don't play these types of games. We have very strict codes and honor. We protect children, you seem to exploit people for personal gain. Only your network of conspiracy theorists, fake physics, will believe the idiotic claims you have levied against me that, if not for the seriousness surrounding harm to kids, would be laughable. I look forward to showing you just how different I am.

R138 Back before he lost his goddamn mind. I will say Jay has always been a storyteller MC. He didn’t glorify guns and violence for the sake of, he talked about his experiences and did it with creative flows and sick beats. And hasn’t made a gangsta album since American Gangster which was inspired by the film and is the unofficial soundtrack. America loves violence. Goodfellas, Scarface, Godfather. The record companies put out what sells.

R139 There is no alleged. Jay-Z has publicly talked about how he used to sell crack and then became a mini kingpin.

r140 Do you have a date on that? Because Mr. Carter has been referring to women as bitches and hoes since the 90s.

R142 American Gangster came out in 2007. And some women are bitches and hoes.

Gubment Cheez

[quote] And some women are bitches and hoes.

Disgusting, Teacake. you are a real piece.

R145 No it’s called being real. Just as some men are snakes, cowards, or motherfuckers. Obviously it’s a little different because of the history of misogyny and sexism but if you are telling a story you are going to speak like how people truly speak when describing promiscuous women. There is certain level of realism in art. And no I’m not saying it is politically correct. But some women are bitches. Some men are bitches too.

For example r144 is a racist ass bitch.

I literally gasped when I heard this, and as you know, we’ve seen a lot.

The entire entertainment industry is being taken down.

There might be a police report and a criminal investigation may happen. He might be cell mates with Diddy soon. Diddy’s mess started as a civil issue too.

r146 He's calling his main girl in "Ain't No Nigga" a bitch, though. That's my point. Gangsta rap is responsible for the cultural shift where calling a woman "bitch" is somehow seen as a term of endearment as opposed to the debasement that it is.

I bet he flees the country like Roman Polanski and Russell Simmons.

Rap culture needs to disappear. Glorifying pimping, drive bys and drug dealing is sick. The black community wants to point blame everywhere else for “oppression” but everyday you wake up and listen to repeated mantras about a degenerate lifestyle, start with changing that. Listening to Nat King Cole or even Janet Jackson instead of this junk would do some serious improvement. Music gets in your head and sets your internal belief system.

R153 I tend to agree with you. There is a lot of harmful music out there and has been for the past 25 years fucking up the mentalities in our communities.

R151 I believe bitch was co-opted by around the way chicas as a term of endearment when used certain ways like how black people have flipped nigger on its head for nigga. I get what you are saying from some music but that’s how he is using it in that song.

Donald Trump called Nancy Pelosi a cunt and 3 days later a little more than half the country voted for him.

Yes I feel like being a cunt myself lol. Ok, I’m gone now. Goodnight and god bless you all.

R155 I get it. I've just always found it silly and ignorant. Maybe it takes a genre switch up to see how awful this mess really is. 🙃

r52 and r53 He wasn't with Beyonce in 2000. I think Jayz and Beyonce didn't become a thing till 2002 or 2003.

NOPE, 1999

TeaCake they were there in 2000, Beyonce and JLo. Stop with the bullshit.

This was all the thang...bitches and hoes, as you said. It was all about making bank with female hoes. They controlled that shit.

R160 I know she was there. I never said she wasn’t big dummy. But her and Jay weren’t dating because I know who she was dating in 2000. Her and Marques Houston were on and off. Jay and Bey didn’t become a couple until 2002.

It’s tragedy what happened to this girl. I myself was a victim of sexual assault by an athletic coach. No Im not going details. Who and where were her parents. I’m not blaming her in any fashion but why was she partying with 20 something yr old rappers at 13. I’m guessing her was some Jewish record exec. I tend to believe Jay not Puffy.

Nope. This is happening. Your Queen will go down because JayZ and Diddler DID THIS SHIT.

And she knew about it. So did JLo.

R163 Can you post one picture of Jay and Bey together in the year 1999 or 2000. I’ll wait old man. You might want to get therapy. You don’t know what they know.

Did you see the fugly mansion he and Beyonce live in? He should be confined to it indefinitely but without staff and WiFi.

r164 no need. Plenty of evidence already.

Keep banging that drum, though.

R166 Haha just as I thought. You keep banging your false drum. Because I know they weren’t dating. I was in tuned to pop culture. I searched myself and can’t find one picture of them together from those years. Not one. If Jay had any main girl in the year 2000 it was the artist Amil.

R21 I got a news alert on my phone from the Daily Mail at 9pm last night UK time. They love stuff like this of course.

Oh, because you can't find a picture of them, that means they weren't dating/fucking?

OF COURSE!!!

So why do we see lots of pictures of them together in 2002 but none prior to the year 2001. Anyone who watched MTV, BET, who was an actual teen, back in those days knows what I am talking about and that I’m spitting facts.

Teacake...just shut the fuck up now. You are showing yourself to be completely stupid.

Also, it's okay to ADMIT YOU'RE WRONG AND THESE PEOPLE ARE FELONS.

R172 Oh I am most definitely going to do that if that turns out to be the case. I worship no one but Jesus.

[QUOTE]His statement is odd. Far too many exclamation points.

NOT ONE RED PENNY!!

How very Trumpian of him. Thing is Jay Z seems to have forgotten about a little process in civil suits called "discovery" and it will involve not only Jay, but the unnamed female celebrity in the room and possibly Diddy himself. It will involve turning in cell phones and other pertinent records, as well as depositions of the involved parties. I'm sure he doesn't want to let *any* information out. He will settle, just like did with Cassie.

They likely started talking in 2001-02ish. Jay-Z was quite guarded in this Sway interview when asked about it. Because as soon as '03 Bonnie And Clyde came out, that's when people started talking about their relationship.

He’s ugly therefore he’s guilty. Basic DL logic that proves true time after time.

I still will never understand how this camel-faced dude managed to get Beyonce. It's got to be witchcraft. No other explanation. He is hideous.

Yeah she's so much better than him. He finessed that, fair play to him. This is Cosby level bad if true. How do you defend yourself anyway. Nightmare.

[QUOTE]Mr. Carter previously denied being the one who sued me and my firm. [Bold] He filed his frivolous case under a pseudonym.[/bold]

How can this be legal? How can a defendant not know the name of their accuser?

^I should have used respondent for a civil case instead of defendant.

His LA home looks like a small airport terminal.

I’ll bet the “celebrity female” present was Aaliyah. They aren’t naming her because she’s dead.

dark energy has always emanated from him and Puff, plus they're fucking ugly

An adult man casual friends with a 17-year-old. Sure.

Like Jay Z said, I’m innocent too.

r178 Well, he did start dating her when she was 19 and he was 31. I've always found that creepy. She has stated that she only had one boyfriend prior to him from age 14 to 17 and it was non-sexual. That means Jay-Z took her virginity.

So, that's a 12 year age gap, to a rather sheltered young woman (her parents pretty much had her focused on all things music and school), with no experience. I was only half-joking with the witchcraft comment. Codependency can, in many ways, be spellbinding. It would explain why she stayed after he cheated on her multiple times.

[Quote]I can believe that he did some bad things while he was friendly with Sean Combs. They fell out in the early 2000s

They seemed just fine only four years ago.

[Quote]He's also rumored to have several other kids with various side pieces.

So fucking what.

If he committed crimes, he should have the book thrown at him. Noone cares if he fucks around with willing adults except his dead eyed Queen of Sheba wife.

The whole thing is shifting. The top 90s hip hop / rap stars are aging out and now it's been decided they aren't going to get protected anymore. It's like a switch was flicked with Diddy. The whole world knew he is a gangster, not an "entertainment mogul". A fucking degenerate gangster. For decades violent criminals were pushed and promoted by the industry as worthy of adulation.

[quote]My wife and I will have to sit our children down, one of whom is at the age where her friends will surely see the press and ask questions about the nature of these claims, and explain the cruelty and greed of people.

I wonder at what age they'll have to sit their children down and confirm that yes, daddy did cheat on mommy with a bunch of other women, and explain the selfishness and narcissism of some fathers.

MTG calls for the death penalty for Jay-Z (and Diddy) if they're found guilty. (But Matt Gaetz gets a pass.)

r186 Beyonce had her first boyfriend from 1993 to 1999/2000. Very long for a teenager. As someone said , Jay Z might be the first man she slept with if not second. Her high school boyfriend admitted to cheating on her (many times)---- probably because she didn't want to have sex till marriage. And we know that is true because very few men would admit to not having sex with a pop star/beauty.

I suspect it was the late Aaliyah who was the celeb watching

One of Carter's baby manas was um, a little young when she was impregnated. Shame shame shame on the sleazy wife and her 55yo violent pedophile husband who thinks he's a "young man." Disgusting people.

r139 Given she was a victim I wouldn't be surprised she was used to and perpetuated child abuse.

r193 Given Aliyah was a victim I wouldn't be surprised she was used to and perpetuated child abuse.

[quote]MTG calls for the death penalty for Jay-Z (and Diddy) if they're found guilty. (But Matt Gaetz gets a pass.)

Does she not understand that this is a civil case, not criminal? Jay-Z is obviously guilty, but Marjorie Taylor Green has to be the stupidest person ever in Congress, and that’s a very low bar.

who is the famous female celeb in the lawsuit who saw it

Beyoncé is so arrogant, she thought she could reproduce with someone who looks like Jay-Z and her kids wouldn’t come out butt-ugly.

Aaliyah was trafficked by R Kelly and was a victim of the industry and these men and their enablers.

They are not 'butt ugly' you cunt.

Her kids are nice looking.

Yeah, it was probably Aaliyah. She was allegedly married to R Kelly when she was 15.

[quote]who is the famous female celeb in the lawsuit who saw it

A mystery for the ages.

R186 I just do not believe Beyonce was a virgin all through her teens. That’s PR from when society was way more religious and uptight. I’m sorry I just don’t. Someone who looks like that and was able to sing about sex so effortlessly in their adult teens. She looked like a grown woman at 14 and DC were only 15 when they first came out. She has told a story on Letterman about Solange bursting in her room and claiming she and her boyfriend were having sex. Because they were probably having sex lol. This is Beyonce at 15 yrs old. I know the type. I’m not saying she was a ho but this girl did not lose her virginity at 20 yrs old to Jay-Z. lol. It’s naive to think that shit.

[quote] She was allegedly married to R Kelly when she was 15.

There's no 'allegedly'. He trafficked her to a hotel room where he paid some preacher to marry them after ' bribing an Illinois government employee on Aug. 30, 1994, in order to obtain a fake ID for Aaliyah, according to the indictment and a person familiar with the matter.The fake ID was to be used to obtain a marriage license that listed her age as 18, the person familiar with the matter said. Their marriage was later annulled.'

R205, I always thought it was odd that R Kelly remained a big star for so many years after that story became public knowledge.

This is all alleged. Innocent until proven guilty. And even if he is guilty Trump will Pardon him to win the black vote so black people can keep their black jobs.

R206. Me too. Because that shit was known in the 90s. Shit is perverse. Are these people selling their souls to the devil?

I still stand by Jay being innocent until proven guilty.

I don’t think it was JLo. She was already a big star and was 31 at the time in 2000. She was trying to clean up her image after the 1999 nightclub shooting with Diddy. I think she would have gotten out of there if she thought there were underage girls being raped at a party.

Uh oh. I hope he didn’t give her Beyonc-AIDS.

R209 Maybe the female celebrity is Jaguar Wright. Sometimes white media who isn’t familiar with urban music might think someone is bigger than what they are because they just aren’t familiar with the music or the artists outside the hugest ones.

Beyonce married to a pedophile tarnishes her entire career. They could both be ruined if it's true. Jay Z has always been ugly and an egomaniac but this surprises me more than that Diddy.

His face rapes me every time I see it.

Maybe it's Beyonce.

As I think about it. Beyonce and Destiny's Child probably were confronted with a lot of harassment as any successful, attractive girl group would be. I think Beyonce was attracted to Jay Z because he had power and influence and he could protect her.

Don’t they teach the alfa bette in schools anymore? Z does not come after J for heavens sake!!!!!

The alpha Bette

R216 Haha. But it’s reference to the NYC subway lines.

r99, teacup is mentally ill. Either unmedicated or self-medicating with illegal drugs. It is probably unemployed as it has a lot of time to create sock puppets. Interestingly, a person claiming to be the old gerg troll posted a while back on the DL subreddit in the usual sullen fashion after a banishment. Following its tracks led me to its posts on a Boston sub as well as posts on some tech bro shit sub and a bitcoin sub. Nothing about cooking though.

[quote] This is all alleged. Innocent until proven guilty. And even if he is guilty Trump will Pardon him to win the black vote so black people can keep their black jobs.

So much ignorance in this post.

Nothing is "alleged" because this isn't a criminal matter. I have no idea if criminal charges will be filed.

IF a criminal charge is filed, a person is NOT "innocent until proven guilty".

If I, in fact, commit a crime, I'm not "innocent".

I did it.

What due procedural rights afford me is that I'm PRESUMED innocent until proven guilty.

That shifts the burden to the state to produce enough evidence to prove each element of the charged crime beyond a reasonable doubt and persuade a judge or jury that they have.

For examples, I didn't see Patsy, John or Burke Ramsey cause the death of JonBenet but, in fact, I believe one of them did.

I didn't see OJ Simpson, by wielding a knife, almost decapitate Nicole Brown Simpson and cause fatal internal trauma to Ronald Goldman, but did he? Of course he did.

But my beliefs don't matter. The only thing that matters is the prosecution meeting their burden.

"Prisons are filled with unsuccessful criminals", are the words of my criminal law professor, meaning that people commit crimes all the time that they'll never be held accountable for, or will not be proven guilty of.

As for any US President pardoning, only if there is a federal crime charged.

Of course, given Trump's cabal on the US Supreme Court, I wouldn't put anything past them to uphold whatever shit Trump wants to do.

R219 why are you keeping my name in your mouth. I don’t create socks.

Why don't black people ride for doing diddy the way they are for Jay Z right now?

Cause diddy isn't married to Queen Bey?

R222 Diddy is more a producer who tried to be the talent. His ego is more cocky than J who is quiet and pretends to be humble when not rapping.

R221 I will not condemn you. I think you add some dimension to the board. Until Muriel bans you again, you go on wich yo' bad self!

R200, not to worry; Grandma Tina has a plastic surgeon on speed dial at the first hint of Jay’s mooselike features showing up on her grand babies faces.

R222 For on there has been multiple accusations against Diddy from multiple women. And there has been whispers of his shadiness for the past 2 decades. With Jay this just seems like a cash grab. We shall see as the facts become exposed.

I believe the mystery celebrity is Aaliyah. Given her history with R. Kelly and older men like Jay-Z’s manager Dame Dash and that there was a “love triangle” between them it wouldn’t surprise me if it was her. She’d have been about 21 years old. It makes the most sense to me.

Aaliyah is usually called an “angel” by older men who wanted to have sex with her. DMX, Timbaland, Jay-Z, Dame Dash, Diddy. She was always hanging around older men and partying with them.

So wouldn’t shock me if it was her.

Diddy in recent images is a perfect illustration of what used to be called "moral insanity". He lost his tiny mind in his sex addiction. Look at his eyes. He is not sane.

R228: “ Diddy …. lost his tiny mind in his sex addiction. Look at his eyes. He is not sane.”

We know

Did Missy Elliott ever try to get with Aaliyah and introduce her to the lady pond?

Remember in The Wire when Wee Bey throws a party with girls and gangsters and drugs and a girl dies and they roll her up in a rug and throw her in the trash.

That's the world inhabited by Diddy and his "associates".

Jay Z must be thanking Luigi Mangione for saving his name from Monday headlines

R231 You are an idiot. Diddy and his associates, whites and blacks, were way higher rollers than the goons on The Wire. My dad was a mini kingpin like the Idris Elba character. I know that world. And even amongst the gangstas that is some repugnant shit as my dad would never fuck with teenage girls.

An Ah hailped !

AlienOnMars:

Answer honestly: do you really believe that JZ could be such a close associate of Diddy and NOT be involved in at least some of the sick shit that he was doing? C'mon now...he was either aware and turned a blind eye, or complicit. And it's pretty hard to believe the former given their very close association. Everyone's quick to burn JLo but there's reasonable doubt where JZ is concerned? To those people I say FOH.

r206 Looking mature is not the same thing as being sexually active. What a crazy thing. That is what pedos say to justify pursing sex with underage people. She can't help if she looked older than she was.

I TOLD YOU SO!

R219: Defacto/Teacake

Teacake saying he didn’t have sock accounts is either the funniest thing ever, or the saddest because the poster with so many accounts is in such a state of denial. Teacake, warrior, holierthanthou, blackmussy, plus others over the past six months, upvoting his posts to combat the f/f; switching accounts on the same damn thread. I’m like r224, I guess I’m entertained.

R189 Diddy was never a gangster. My uncles and the mobsters they did business with were gangsters. Diddy was the son of a gangster, college educated Catholic school boy. He also then became a freak body sex addict narcissist and committed some horrible sex trafficking. He was mogul like Clive Davis but never a gangster.

[quote][R186] I just do not believe Beyonce was a virgin all through her teens. That’s PR from when society was way more religious and uptight. I’m sorry I just don’t. [bold]Someone who looks like that and was able to sing about sex so effortlessly in their adult teens. She looked like a grown woman at 14 and DC were only 15 when they first came out.[/bold]

r204 This is such a toxic mentality and it's usually only applied to girls and women. Usually by males. So, I'm not at all surprised that you think this way. If a girl looks or dresses a certain way then she must be having sex or willing to.

This is the primary reason I stopped dressing feminine or wearing light makeup when I was 13 and started dressing like boy to "hide." Because boys and even grown men saw it as a signal that I was sexually available. It's disgusting and infuriating.

And she's not responsible for the lyrics record executives made her and DC sing. It's no secret that most of the music industry is run by perverted old men who hypersexualize young girls for their own jollies and profit. Look at Disney and Nickelodeon.

I have no problems believing she was a virgin all throughout high school and into her 20s because I know plenty of young women who were exactly the same. I am one of them. And it's because I had morals.

[QUOTE]switching accounts on the same damn thread.

I noticed that yesterday. He forgot which window he was working on or which account he had open.

R242 Who are yall talking about. Because I don’t switch accounts. Previously I had multiple accounts because I either forgot the passwords or was on suspension. I always acknowledge myself.

When is he getting arrested?

R244 Never. He released another statement today asserting “we don’t play games like this where I’m from” I believe him. It’s a cash grab.

That girls family probably decided to include Jay because Puff is literally going broke for all the cases he settled. He already got fifty level children 😂.

R241 your made up "morals" aren't the reason why you were a virgin into your twenties

[Quote] ok they still weren’t dating yet. Bitch. I said she may have known him. They were not dating in 2000.

R93 Maybe they weren't dating, dating but that doesn't mean they weren't fucking. Do you think Jay-Z was dating everyone he fucked or raped?

R248 Of course not but Beyonce isn’t a regular chick. Besides she doesn’t strike as someone who gives it up easy but more importantly they didn’t know each other like that in the year of 2000. They just didn’t. I was alive and present in pop culture. Matthew Knowles probably made Destiny’s Child go practice after the 2000 VMAs lol.

r247 Oh, yeah, you're right. It was also because I was an antisocial plain Jane who walked around with a permanent scowl on my face making myself as ugly and unapproachable as possible. I'm very aware. It was intentional.

I despised my peers in middle and high school. I viewed most of them as perverts raised on the likes of Diddy and Jay-Z who they elevated as "role models." I looked down on them because I saw them as morally bankrupt and made my sense of moral superiority evident in my interactions with them. Anything else you think you have "insight" on?

What is crazy is Jaguar Wright was almost sued for saying jay z was involved in Puffy's freak offs a month or so ago.

R250 you sound like you have serious issues surrounding your sexuality. Hating men or hating sex isn't healthy.

R222, the case against Diddy is vast. I doubt anyone seriously believes it's all a set-up at this point. Jay-Z may well be guilty - it wouldn't surprise me at all, given his connection to Diddy - but at the moment, there's nowhere near as much evidence against him.

LSA has pics of Jay Zee and 16yo Beyawnc, with his quote to the effect that he took one look at her and had to "make her mine." He groomed her with the alproval of her shady parents. Meabwhile he was hanging tight and recording/touring with close associates Diddy and R Kelly. He's scum and his wife was well aware.

So it was an Elvis and Priscilla type of set up approved by her parents?

r252 Boy/girl bye. I'm talking about my mentality when I was around 14-15 goddamn years old. A kid. Kids shouldn't be having or worried about sex anyway. I just took it to an extreme back then.

Yup, i saw those r254 and a partial transcript of an interview he did saying she was 16 when he met her and when he saw her picture, he vowed to "make her mine." You can be sure (with his attitude and influence) she was NOT a virgin until 20.

You know it's bad when the PR magazine People writes about it

What I don't get. You have Jlo, you have Beyonce, why do you need to drug a child and rape them. Also, what the fuck is a child doing at the MTV Awards unattended by a parent or guardian? "Hey Mom I am going to the MTV awards with P DIddy.." like fuck you are.

Isn’t this the excuse Beyonce has been waiting for to leave him? They’ve had a platonic relationship for a long time but these allegations are serious and not going away.

R259 Because he didn’t do it. We have seen not one ounce of corroborating evidence. He has never been known to touch children. Always lightskin or exotical latinas with thick legs. This is a cash grab and high tech lynching. But Jay is smart. I’ve never seen someone come out so aggressive when being accused.

You don’t know shit

Does Beyonce even know about this? She's slow and she can't read.

Beyoncé still hasn’t figured out that her mom’s name isn’t Destiny.

R12 I mean Beyonce sent the original 3rd member of Destiny's Child into the shadow realm of nothingness. The bitch has and will always be a power hungry QUEEN BEEE buzzzzzzz

Fuck ALL the way off, Teacake R2. I've never defended Roman Polanski in my life. On the contrary, I have vocally rooted for extradition and prison for him for decades.

When you say, "All you bitches...defended Roman Polanski." what it sure as fuck sounds like you are implying is, "All you WHITE bitches...defended Roman Polanski." Saying this to a group of anonymous gay men who as a demographic tend to abhor pedophilia and rape is pretty thoughtless, super shitty, and utterly embarrassing. Because it's not accurate, and it makes you look like an idiot.

And you wonder why everyone hates you, and why your contributions often feel like major boner killers which drag down and derail otherwise stimulating threads.

Tina upvoted a post about Jay-Z and Diddy and now claims she was hacked.

R8 = 🏆

Thanks for that r267....I was sure that was her account despite others here saying it was a parody.

[post redacted because linking to dailymail.co.uk clearly indicates that the poster is either a troll or an idiot (probably both, honestly.) Our advice is that you just ignore this poster but whatever you do, don't click on any link to this putrid rag.]

R270 is for R27, R64 and everyone else saying Beyonce was an adult when they met.

She was 16

[quote][R270] is for [R27], [R64] and everyone else saying Beyonce was an adult when they met.

The only one saying that is TeaCake.

Tina would have been better off saying she liked the post by mistake, why would someone hack her account just to like a post?

Tina must be a fan of Joy “I was hacked” Reid.

[Quote] Teacake saying he didn’t have sock accounts is either the funniest thing ever,

Seriously, just put him on ignore. Defacto craves attention. By fighting with him, you give him what he wants.

Going on ignore is the one thing he DOESNT want. So do it.

R265 There is no original 3rd member of Destiny’s Child. That’s how you know this fool doesn’t know what he is talking about. And the Queen has made amends with them. Those girls know they were bugging and couldn’t sing lead lol. At any rate, they are all cool now. Here they are kicking it back in 2018. You tried it.

Originally DC was a quartet. After the two original girls lefts they were replaced by Michelle Williams and luggage. Luggage was lazy as fuck so she got the boot too lol. Watch this vid it is hilarious 😆.

R276 Actually that pic is from 2023. But they been cool again since 2018

Interestingly, after I said to put him on ignore, there were three responses to this thread I can’t see.

I wonder why? 🤣🤣🤣

R279 Didn’t even see your comment cunt. You stay mentioning me and I never mention you. Let that sink in. And who is the loser still claiming I’m defacto. You gon die on that bridge? Lawd.

I agree, R273. I can't picture anyone hacking a celebrity's account just to like a single tweet.

R281 It happens all the time actually.

R275, blocking Teafake only works for about 2-3 weeks; then the creature comes back with a new identity. Lawd, it needs an exorcism.

r283 At this point it has so many accounts, it's hard to keep them all blocked. It be trippin makin up so many mafuckin accounts lol lmao trip you tried.

r252 You're typing as if mao/teacake is a rational person. She is not. She is a psycho with 10+ accounts, all speaking back and forth to each other. Her only goal with her various accounts is OMG PLEASE GIVE ME ATTENTION - yet 1/2 her posts are "Omg even though I posted 75 times in this thread, why is everyone commenting on my stuff? Y'all are mafuckin obsessed." It's very mentally unwell.

r285 omg dont start that shit. Mao and I are not the same person. You are mentally ill or racist.

You can lie until you blue in the face. This is my only account right now. mad at me cause you old and ugly.

So you block him again, r283. It doesn’t cost anything.

It’s not exactly hard to understand.

r287 "until you blue"

Perhaps you meant "Until you're blue..."

"Cause you old" - perhaps that was "Because you're old..."

The Jay-Z accuser is pure batshit. She claims she talked to Benji from Good Charlotte about his tattoos. They released a public statement, "that they did not attend the 2000 VMAS and weren't in New York at the time." So a 13 yr old autistic(yes she claims to be autistic too) woman from Rochester drove 5 hrs to the VMAs with a friend. "The friend" is dead btw. Her dad says he doesn't remember anything out of the ordinary when "they" returned a few days later. This is a lie by a severely mentally ill woman. Shit is sad and her family even knows she is lying but perhaps can't stop a grown mentally ill woman from doing what she wants.

Y'all have go to see the NBC News interview. Shit is sad. This woman needs help. She is about to make the Duke accuser seem holy. This is a complete farce.

Ok, TC. We get it. You don't think he's guilty.

This story is absolutely incredulous. Btw, I would never bash an autistic woman. I believe she likely is and is mentally ill.

I had a dream that it was real so I believe it 100%. Dreams are visions from Alien gods fr

lol right r294. I see why the NFL didn't fire him. Because usually they take don't risks when it comes to children. The lawyer dude from Texas is about get what's coming to him. When the Carter-Knowles are done, I wonder if he will be able to practice law in Mexico.

R295 well to be fair the nfl does have a reputation for looking the other way regarding criminals and monsters - to the point that it's basically a running joke.

r296 what you are talking about are players caught up in domestic issues-- they don't fire them after they serve their prison or community service or whatever. Hey, it's a business and they have already invested millions.

R297 look i was just shitposting - i think the accuser here is probably full of shit - but i'm also inclined to think jay z is probably a piece of shit with similar skeletons in his closet.

298 I tend to agree. I don't think you become a billionaire without some skeletons in your closet. Doesn't mean you did something illegal or universally morally wrong like messing with children.

Time Machine is an underrated masterpiece.

This accuser is not credible at all (massive understatement) and her lawyer, Buzbee, has sullied his name fantastically. He is finished in these high profile circles and probably everywhere else.

so who is the female celeb? anyone figure it out yet? surely there are pictures?

R302 There is no female celebrity because the whole entire accusation is complete horseshit. I question if this lady was even in New York City on the night of the 2000 VMAs.

Oh he did it.

Man, you homos idolize that cunt. Infallible to you.

R305 Put that bottle down.