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"Me and My Shadows: A Family Memoir"

Crawled through this book again, it's so juicy, but Lorna seems to reserve the most vitriol for the gay friends Judy had in her last couple of years. She believes them to be just users trying to piggyback off Judy's fame, which they probably were. She lumps them all together -- they wear eye-shadow, they are effeminate, and she hates them, these betrayers of women. It cracks me up because,, meanwhile, Judy's dad is gay, a few of her ex-husbands are gay, Liza's husband is gay, and then during her coke and party days she falls deeply in love with . . . Barry Manilow! Lorna seems bright enough in the book yet she doesn't see the hypocrisy of her homophobia. #Rant Over

by Anonymousreply 29December 15, 2024 5:55 AM

Perhaps an eye shadow-wearing, effeminate man molested her?

by Anonymousreply 1December 8, 2024 4:28 PM

omg. are you saying Lorna was molested?

by Anonymousreply 2December 8, 2024 4:30 PM

I like blue eye shadow.

by Anonymousreply 3December 8, 2024 4:32 PM

Older women without gay male companions are very sad.

by Anonymousreply 4December 8, 2024 4:39 PM

I didn’t get that impression at all. The end of Judy’s life was harrowing and gay predictors essentially took advantage of her because her friends and family were essentially through with her. Nicky Deans was a creep and others worse. Bad people exist, gay, straight, black, white. I don’t think Lorna’s take was homophobic.

by Anonymousreply 5December 8, 2024 4:55 PM

Hating the coterie of gay hangers-on doesn’t necessarily mean hatred of all gay men.

by Anonymousreply 6December 8, 2024 4:56 PM

PS, I recall what struck me were the descriptions of trying to sober Liza up. In general Lorna is telling the story of a family with a clear predisposition for substance abuse and how it played out among each of them up to that time. In think it’s very honest.

by Anonymousreply 7December 8, 2024 4:57 PM

Predators not predictors above

by Anonymousreply 8December 8, 2024 4:58 PM

Marlene Dietrich’s daughter made a similar pronouncement in her excellent biography of her mother.

I think it’s just a blunt reading of reality, not the summation of an entire demographic.

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by Anonymousreply 9December 8, 2024 5:00 PM

She's actually pretty good in the beginning, referring to gay "orientation" which gradually switches to gay "preference" when she realizes these queens are capable of getting it up with women. One of the scarier parts of the book is when she and Mickey Deans have a bloody fight in Hawaii, she calls him a "fag" and he punches her in the eye.

by Anonymousreply 10December 8, 2024 5:03 PM

[quote] he punches her in the eye.

Thus causing eye shadow.

by Anonymousreply 11December 8, 2024 5:05 PM

Susan Hayward's son also said in some recent interview that his mom was surrounded exclusively by queens in the last few years of her life. It just seems to be a trajectory for most lonely aging Hollywood divas. I mean, the same thing is happening with Liza these days.

by Anonymousreply 12December 8, 2024 5:06 PM

They should consider shutting the door.

by Anonymousreply 13December 8, 2024 5:09 PM

Wouldn’t expect anything less from the ‘’Garland’’ family.

by Anonymousreply 14December 8, 2024 5:12 PM

I was molested.

by Anonymousreply 15December 8, 2024 5:15 PM

"These days," R12? When was Liza ever NOT surrounded by a coterie of gay men...

by Anonymousreply 16December 8, 2024 7:04 PM

I did a show with Lorna a few years ago...pre-pandemic...she was nice enough, but keep your distance. Someone saw her at the airport after having just done the show, and I think she said something akin to "Get away from me." I asked her out for pizza just to watch her reaction. "No, thank you", with the phoniest smile. It was fantastic...

by Anonymousreply 17December 8, 2024 7:10 PM

She really thinks she is a MAJOR talent. In her book, she also namedrops with abandon. "My Dear Personal Friends THE ROYAL FAMILY." She also confesses to snapping at people who come up to her ALL THE TIME to say "I know how you are feeling. I loved your mother too."

by Anonymousreply 18December 8, 2024 7:47 PM

I’ve seen Miss ‘’Major talent’’ preform many times and every time it’s been such a sad disappointment. One can’t believe she’s Judy’s other daughter.

by Anonymousreply 19December 8, 2024 8:01 PM

Didn't she and Liza have a falling out over that book? She had to sell Judy out because she knows the talent gene skipped her and she was never gonna make the kind of money her mother and sister made So she showed us Judy at her worst a la Mommy Dearest and once that was done she name-dropped and humble-bragged her way through the rest of it

by Anonymousreply 20December 8, 2024 9:11 PM

Did Lorna write it while in the breakfast nook?

by Anonymousreply 21December 8, 2024 9:12 PM

Me and my family of shitheads

by Anonymousreply 22December 8, 2024 9:28 PM

To be fair, when watching Judy's show from the 1960s, Lorna was the one who seemed to have the singing talent and she was a cute girl. I would have laid odds at that point that she would have been the successful daughter...

by Anonymousreply 23December 9, 2024 3:47 AM

Lorna had a good voice when she was younger but unfortunately she looked nothing like her mother and favored her father. She didn't have any charisma either, which Liza had tons of.

by Anonymousreply 24December 9, 2024 3:50 AM

In defence of all gay men, Lorna was cross-eyed in her youth and is a marginal talent.

by Anonymousreply 25December 9, 2024 5:19 AM

Momma had the disheashe of addicshion.

by Anonymousreply 26December 15, 2024 12:43 AM

[quote] Momma had the disheashe of addicshion.

It'sh a disheashe, Larry! A disheash!

by Anonymousreply 27December 15, 2024 1:08 AM

Family and friends raved about Lorna’s book:

“Schweetie I’ve been too busy to read for YEARS . I don’t think I remember how.” - Liza

“The cover has blue. I saw a helicopter and it was blue.” - Joey Luft

“She was the greatest star in the world. You hear me? THE WORLD!” - Mickey Rooney

“I like half and half on my shredded wheat.” - Andy Rooney

“Bitches! All of them! From their snatch to their thatch.” - Helen Lawson

by Anonymousreply 28December 15, 2024 2:17 AM

[quote]R25 Lorna was cross-eyed in her youth and is a marginal talent.

Oy. There’s one in every family.

by Anonymousreply 29December 15, 2024 5:55 AM
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