Crawled through this book again, it's so juicy, but Lorna seems to reserve the most vitriol for the gay friends Judy had in her last couple of years. She believes them to be just users trying to piggyback off Judy's fame, which they probably were. She lumps them all together -- they wear eye-shadow, they are effeminate, and she hates them, these betrayers of women. It cracks me up because,, meanwhile, Judy's dad is gay, a few of her ex-husbands are gay, Liza's husband is gay, and then during her coke and party days she falls deeply in love with . . . Barry Manilow! Lorna seems bright enough in the book yet she doesn't see the hypocrisy of her homophobia. #Rant Over
"Me and My Shadows: A Family Memoir"
by Anonymous | reply 29 | December 15, 2024 5:55 AM |
Perhaps an eye shadow-wearing, effeminate man molested her?
by Anonymous | reply 1 | December 8, 2024 4:28 PM |
omg. are you saying Lorna was molested?
by Anonymous | reply 2 | December 8, 2024 4:30 PM |
I like blue eye shadow.
by Anonymous | reply 3 | December 8, 2024 4:32 PM |
Older women without gay male companions are very sad.
by Anonymous | reply 4 | December 8, 2024 4:39 PM |
I didn’t get that impression at all. The end of Judy’s life was harrowing and gay predictors essentially took advantage of her because her friends and family were essentially through with her. Nicky Deans was a creep and others worse. Bad people exist, gay, straight, black, white. I don’t think Lorna’s take was homophobic.
by Anonymous | reply 5 | December 8, 2024 4:55 PM |
Hating the coterie of gay hangers-on doesn’t necessarily mean hatred of all gay men.
by Anonymous | reply 6 | December 8, 2024 4:56 PM |
PS, I recall what struck me were the descriptions of trying to sober Liza up. In general Lorna is telling the story of a family with a clear predisposition for substance abuse and how it played out among each of them up to that time. In think it’s very honest.
by Anonymous | reply 7 | December 8, 2024 4:57 PM |
Predators not predictors above
by Anonymous | reply 8 | December 8, 2024 4:58 PM |
Marlene Dietrich’s daughter made a similar pronouncement in her excellent biography of her mother.
I think it’s just a blunt reading of reality, not the summation of an entire demographic.
by Anonymous | reply 9 | December 8, 2024 5:00 PM |
She's actually pretty good in the beginning, referring to gay "orientation" which gradually switches to gay "preference" when she realizes these queens are capable of getting it up with women. One of the scarier parts of the book is when she and Mickey Deans have a bloody fight in Hawaii, she calls him a "fag" and he punches her in the eye.
by Anonymous | reply 10 | December 8, 2024 5:03 PM |
[quote] he punches her in the eye.
Thus causing eye shadow.
by Anonymous | reply 11 | December 8, 2024 5:05 PM |
Susan Hayward's son also said in some recent interview that his mom was surrounded exclusively by queens in the last few years of her life. It just seems to be a trajectory for most lonely aging Hollywood divas. I mean, the same thing is happening with Liza these days.
by Anonymous | reply 12 | December 8, 2024 5:06 PM |
They should consider shutting the door.
by Anonymous | reply 13 | December 8, 2024 5:09 PM |
Wouldn’t expect anything less from the ‘’Garland’’ family.
by Anonymous | reply 14 | December 8, 2024 5:12 PM |
I was molested.
by Anonymous | reply 15 | December 8, 2024 5:15 PM |
"These days," R12? When was Liza ever NOT surrounded by a coterie of gay men...
by Anonymous | reply 16 | December 8, 2024 7:04 PM |
I did a show with Lorna a few years ago...pre-pandemic...she was nice enough, but keep your distance. Someone saw her at the airport after having just done the show, and I think she said something akin to "Get away from me." I asked her out for pizza just to watch her reaction. "No, thank you", with the phoniest smile. It was fantastic...
by Anonymous | reply 17 | December 8, 2024 7:10 PM |
She really thinks she is a MAJOR talent. In her book, she also namedrops with abandon. "My Dear Personal Friends THE ROYAL FAMILY." She also confesses to snapping at people who come up to her ALL THE TIME to say "I know how you are feeling. I loved your mother too."
by Anonymous | reply 18 | December 8, 2024 7:47 PM |
I’ve seen Miss ‘’Major talent’’ preform many times and every time it’s been such a sad disappointment. One can’t believe she’s Judy’s other daughter.
by Anonymous | reply 19 | December 8, 2024 8:01 PM |
Didn't she and Liza have a falling out over that book? She had to sell Judy out because she knows the talent gene skipped her and she was never gonna make the kind of money her mother and sister made So she showed us Judy at her worst a la Mommy Dearest and once that was done she name-dropped and humble-bragged her way through the rest of it
by Anonymous | reply 20 | December 8, 2024 9:11 PM |
Did Lorna write it while in the breakfast nook?
by Anonymous | reply 21 | December 8, 2024 9:12 PM |
Me and my family of shitheads
by Anonymous | reply 22 | December 8, 2024 9:28 PM |
To be fair, when watching Judy's show from the 1960s, Lorna was the one who seemed to have the singing talent and she was a cute girl. I would have laid odds at that point that she would have been the successful daughter...
by Anonymous | reply 23 | December 9, 2024 3:47 AM |
Lorna had a good voice when she was younger but unfortunately she looked nothing like her mother and favored her father. She didn't have any charisma either, which Liza had tons of.
by Anonymous | reply 24 | December 9, 2024 3:50 AM |
In defence of all gay men, Lorna was cross-eyed in her youth and is a marginal talent.
by Anonymous | reply 25 | December 9, 2024 5:19 AM |
Momma had the disheashe of addicshion.
by Anonymous | reply 26 | December 15, 2024 12:43 AM |
[quote] Momma had the disheashe of addicshion.
It'sh a disheashe, Larry! A disheash!
by Anonymous | reply 27 | December 15, 2024 1:08 AM |
Family and friends raved about Lorna’s book:
“Schweetie I’ve been too busy to read for YEARS . I don’t think I remember how.” - Liza
“The cover has blue. I saw a helicopter and it was blue.” - Joey Luft
“She was the greatest star in the world. You hear me? THE WORLD!” - Mickey Rooney
“I like half and half on my shredded wheat.” - Andy Rooney
“Bitches! All of them! From their snatch to their thatch.” - Helen Lawson
by Anonymous | reply 28 | December 15, 2024 2:17 AM |
[quote]R25 Lorna was cross-eyed in her youth and is a marginal talent.
Oy. There’s one in every family.
by Anonymous | reply 29 | December 15, 2024 5:55 AM |