Prince William Accused of Looking 'Petty' for Taking Prince Harry Feud Too Far

Even the British press are getting sick of William's bullshit.

He needs to get the fuck over it, and grow up.

Act like a fucking future King, for fuck's sake.

I can't believe anybody even talks about this boring garbage.

He's a boy not a man not a king.

Isn't Charles going to die within a few months R3? He'll be King then.

How else do you deal with Duchess Psycho?

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A lame attempt at being relevant on many levels

If my brother married a desperate old slag who loved the smell of her own queefs and was a raging cunt to everyone behind closed doors there would be major tension in our family too.

R1 and R3 Reeks of KGT's familiar syntax. She dreams of licking Markle's piss flaps which are the size of an elephant's ears. The psychotic old lezzer. She's probably eating mayonnaise out of the jar with one hand and flicking her bean with the other to Rachel's Oprah interview. The sad old cow.

R8 sounds like a lunatic.

William has been very understanding. Anyone in private life would have been ten times more vicious to Harry. William is to be admired for not spitting in Harry’s face every time he encounters him.

R10 UH, NO. Speak for yourself. What kind of f-ed up family did you grow up in that you think that? Real adults in a family situation move past minor tiffs like that. Blood is thicker than water.

It’s not a minor rift. What Harry did was vile beyond belief. Nothing like this occurred in my family.

For what reasons would they reconcile? Harry is a vile and unpleasant person so there is no personal reason why the family would want to be around him. The British public find him repugnant so there is no public reason to. Since he is corrupt snd unethical, the family seemed to be seen to keep its distance.

How many Diana events are there each year? They seem to happen a lot.

I wish William would beat the shit out of Harry.

[Quote] Blood is thicker than water. R11:

You obviously have never been the target of a malignant narcissist who also happens to be a family member.

If I had enemies (which I don't) even they wouldn't be as evil as the person in my family to which I'm referring. So knock off the bullshit motherhood statements. Family members can destroy lives. Feel happy about the fact that you seem not to have experienced that, but others have.

[Quote] If my brother married a desperate old slag who loved the smell of her own queefs and was a raging cunt to everyone behind closed doors

Meghan Derangemrnt Syndrome on full pathetic display. It’s so sad they out themselves as being impotent and rage-filled and desperately needing a scapegoat like that. 💔

William needs to get over it? What nonsense.

Harry and the Mrs. need to stop whining about past misdeed, stop milking their titles for cash, and apologize for airing dirty laundry in public.

I thought that r8 was talking about Camilla.

If William didn't have a sick dad and a sick wife, there would be no pity for him.

Siblings raised in such dysfunctional families are at great risk of having ruptured relationships.

[quote] Real adults in a family situation move past minor tiffs like that. Blood is thicker than water.

Adult siblings have bad relationships and rifts ALL the time. Once parents get old and you add wives, husbands and in-laws and children to the mix, the relationship you had as children ceases to be as important as it once was. Harry and Prince William are not unique in this regard.

From Harry's telling of it - William obviously got preferred treatment and was a bit of a dick to him, as older brothers typically are.

Harry made the right decision to step away - it's the most sane thing to do. He needs to have a life - you want ceremonies and speeches and ribbons cut - you've got plenty of them to do that. That's not fulfilling.

[quote]Harry made the right decision to step away

Yet, he really hasn't, has he?

I'm completely on William's side in this. He never knows if what he says to Harry will wind up in one of his future books.

Me too, R22. For Christ sake, his wife has a serious form of cancer, or she wouldn't have been in hospital for weeks. And his father may be dying so he may be really stressed about how soon he'll have to face all that comes with being the monarch.

Harry? He can just do his drugs and piddle around doing... polo documentaries? plans to interview Putin for a podcast? Fuck all?

Harry spoke highly of his brother and Kate up until he got married. I remember a 20th anniversary of Diana's death with the brothers in 2017 where Harry says how supported they both were and encouraged him to counselling etc.

Fast forward and Harry has changed the story to credit Meghan. Furthermore, it made no sense for Meghan to claim she was refused mental health support when not only has most members had professional help, including The Queen, but Harry has been in connection with many great MH professionals due to their charity work "Heads Together". Bullshit.

William probably put up with all Harry's shitty behaviour for years, since well before 1997. I'd wash my hands of anyone so willing to sell me and my closest family out to the public, mostly through lies and misrepresentation

*supportive

This sums the gruesome twosome up perfectly.

They are both mentally ill and deserve each other.

Whatever William is, he's not mentally ill or drug-addled.

[quote] From Harry's telling of it - William obviously got preferred treatment and was a bit of a dick to him, as older brothers typically are. Harry made the right decision to step away - it's the most sane thing to do. He needs to have a life - you want ceremonies and speeches and ribbons cut - you've got plenty of them to do that. That's not fulfilling.

There is no evidence that any of this is true. William is the one condemned to being full time head of state. Harry had the advantages of royalty while remaining free to choose a light work load if he chose. Even the worst things Harry alleges about William are nothing but typical older brother behaviour.

If Harry finds ceremonial functions empty why is he tying to build that same life in America?

If this were the Mafia, Harry would be with the fishes.

If William makes an attempt to reconcile with Harry, Harry should be very coy about it and send word of "I'll think about it, in my own time". Petty Williams needs to be forced to work for a reconciliation, not just act like he can issue a Royal order of "so it shall be written, so it shall be done".

But who needs who the most? I think it's Harry, so William should be the reticent one. If Harry's around, he'll bring more trouble. (See also Andrew)

r27, why do you think he titled his memoir SPARE?

Sums it all up.

I don't think Harry needs William at all. He's got money to last a lifetime. Once Charles dies there will be little motivation for Harry to have much of anything to do with that bunch in the UK. And even if William reconciles with Harry he's always going to harbor ill will toward Harry. He seems a petty childish clod. Why should Harry put himself in that position?

[quote] I can't believe anybody even talks about this boring garbage.

He said, rushing into the thread.

Anyone who calls this dispute “petty” can’t be taken seriously.

Harry quit the royal family and wrote a tell-all (or a lot) book. Two major betrayals. Not “petty” stuff.

R14, show us on the doll where your family member touched you.

Oh, nothing like that happened between Wiliman and his brother? Then STFU about how "vile" you think it is just to want your own life away from the Royal fucked up family. Grow a pair and be an adult if the only reason to be mad at your brother is about spats regarding your brothers wife. Almost every family has someone they had a fight with, the adults in the room know how to work around that to keep the family together.

[quote]Anyone who calls this dispute “petty” can’t be taken seriously.

Anyone who gets upset and breaks off contact with siblings from just reading a book can't be taken seriously. There, fixed it for you.

Are you actually this stupid, r36? “Just reading a book?” The book is about him written by his brother who abandoned his family responsibilities but wants to maintain his royal privileges.

Drown in a vat of American Riviera Orchard jam, if you can find any.

PR Interns are out in full force here this weekend defending the duplicitous duo. No amount of their deflecting can change the fact that halfwit Harry and his harridan are fueled by jealousy and vengeance.

Narcissists and their flying monkeys use the DARVO tactic: Deny, Attack, Reverse Victim Offender.

Wow, the Royal Family PR firm really has their minions fired up today. Best part is they dont even have to pay them. Keeps them distracted from the real problems of the family.

Pretty funny that the Royal Experts are "exasperated" since they've been all over this story since day 1. The real problem is that people are burnt out on this saga. Everyone knows how opportunistic Harry and Megan are, and have behaved. William will always have to hold his brother at arms length, now. He can't trust him. Harry and yes, Meghan never should have written that book.

The English tourist industry will not allow Harry to reside in self-imposed exile forever.

Once Chuckie's Bridge is lowered, it's all about Wills.

Not even Anne and Sophie can replace an entire Royal Family forever. And forever is until Georgie has an heir and a spare.

Plus, isn't it time for the BRF to start to re-royal itself? It would be nice for Georgie to marry Princess Ariane of the Netherlands.

My brother wrote a book about me WHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!! - Prince William / Man Child

[quote]PR Interns are out in full force here this weekend defending the duplicitous duo.

I can't imagine the level of narcissism to believe that all the people who disagree with you must have been hired by a secret cabal.

Harry trashed William's appearance and stopped just short of calling him ugly in his book, r11. That's a humiliating thing to do to a family member.

No that ginger bastard caused immeasurable suffering to his elderly grandparents, profited from publicly dissing his family, and levelledoutragrous accusations at them. I'm surprised William hasn't had him terminated,.

Trump just met William in Paris and they had a nice chat. I wonder what might have come up?

KGT's usual unhinged immature catchphrases are "yawn" or "boring" along with "Klan Granny", "Waity Katey" and a bunch if unhinged nonsense about William and Kate. She's not that hard to spot. She's probably filled with glee now that Liam Payne's dead since she hates everyone from One Direction except Harry and Zayn.

[quote]No that ginger bastard caused immeasurable suffering to his elderly grandparents,

Panties in a knot much? Jeez, the guy wrote a book, grow UP! I am sure the Queen of England with all her status and riches could give 2 fks about a book.

Oh Good God, you people! Harry opted out. He left his duty, country and family.

You can always count on sheknows for accurate, insightful reporting.

[quote]Oh Good God, you people! Harry opted out. He left his duty, country and family.

Many people chose to leave the family business, many come back. Why is this such a hard thing to understand when it's the Royal Family? Odd that people are so black and white when it comes to the Royal Family.

[quote]Prince William Accused of Looking ‘Petty’ for Taking Prince Harry Feud Too Far

Apparently being disrespected and used - along with his father, father's wife, his wife (aka the fucking king and queen and Prince and Princess of Wales) - by his brother and his idiot-cunt-trash wife so they could make money sets a person up for being called "petty."

And the accusations come from cunts how haven't talked to their mothers for years or allowed them to see the grandchildren because their Moms once seemed to look at the cunts funny.

Harry and his wife need to go away. And unfortunately there are limits to what is considered appropriate today concerning how to achieve that.

My MAGA sister is so obsessed with her hatred of Harry. I don’t engage her on the subject - or much of anything, for that matter - but is it just because he’s married to a biracial woman?

R53 We don't know your sister. Maybe you should ask her? That might be more useful.

I’m not so sure she would admit she’s obsessed with Harry, R54. And no, I do my best to avoid the laundry list of her crazy talk. I was hoping that others might have any other theory as to why he’s such a bugaboo for MAGAts.

It's no surprise that Trump and William would get along.

Birds of a feather stick together.

Trump and William are probably coming up with a plan to deport Harry from the US, since they both hate Harry.

[quote] It's no surprise that Trump and William would get along.

You are a Grade A moron. William is a representative of the state. He has to meet the president-elect of the United States whether he likes to or not. Queen Elizabeth II met with Ceaucescu because the UK government told her too. I assume you think she did because she had a soft spot for murderous dictators?

The stupidity is staggering

I heard that Ceaucescu was a close personal friend of the Queen and she begged him to come visit. Old Lizzie wasn't a saint. She also drank at least five cocktails a day.

R59 Do you have any kind of source for any of that?

More She Knows nothing! In the meantime, William attended his wife's carol service at Westminster Abbey and represented Britain along with other world leaders at the reopening of Notre Dame in Paris.

Indeed, r58. R56 is the type of moron garbage like She Knows was designed to get clicks from.

It sounds about right, r60

[quote] In the meantime, William attended his wife's carol service at Westminster Abbey and represented Britain along with other world leaders at the reopening of Notre Dame in Paris.

*yawn*

It's about time he did something.

We're in December, and this is the first major event I've seen him attend all year.

That's because you're an idiot who has no idea what's going on, r64. William has been involved in tons of engagements and activities this year and has officially represented the UK on numerous occasions. Just last week he welcomed the Emir of Qatar on his state visit to the UK, for example. The fact that you're unaware of all that yet make moronic snide comments about William's activities is a reflection on you, not him.

[quote]My MAGA sister is so obsessed with her hatred of Harry.

Yep, MAGA are the American version of UK Harry and Meghan haters.

William has not been looking well in the past months. In the profile photo halfway down this article you can see he's nearly gaunt. I hope he isn't ill. Can you imagine.

The beard makes his face look skinnier, r67, and he's just had a haircut which accentuates his skull.

There are very few UK Harry and Meghan haters, r66. On the other hand, many in the UK recognise what grasping, hypocritical, arrogant opportunists they are.

[quote]and the royalists are telling the Prince of Wales that it’s time to stop the nonsense.

Nonesense? Nonsense is thinking that a demoted duke without any official working stature, who lives on another continent, who disgraces his family at any whiff of money, and who paints himself as ´´wanting no part of all that´´ yet cadges non-stop for photo ops and security details and privileges of the very thing he has rebuked miust be welcomed to return to the Royal Bosom.

I´m not a Royalist but neither do I think there´s much to be gained by seeing heads roll. The family are a tiourist attraction and ceremonial ambassador and marker. It´s an expensive investment that ultimately pays for itself but which nonetheless must guard itself against stories that stray too far from ribbon cuttings and awards ceremonies and some sense of national promotion and service, however archaic. The family needs to continuously trim itself down and increasingly leave peripheral members or members who have chosen not the play the game to their own devices: set up in family houses and left to find figurehead jobs in investment enterprises or some means of generating some expenses for daily life. Of the two camps, working and non-working, one son of the king has pulled himself apart to say that he is not part of the game, that he lives apart by his own rules and means (of which he´s not too terribly short.)

Had he set himself apart to live outside the bubble of rules and scrutiny and later wanted back in to focus on some sort of service useful to the instituition, no doubt every door would have been open to him. But having angrily separated from them and ratted them outrepeatedly at any hint of money, and having worked so hard at offending the lot of them and removing any sense of connection or trust, he´s stated again and again and again that he wants no part of them. And now he has his wish but doesn´t want it, because apart from them he has no stories to tell and no currency.

It´s not for the family whom he so roundly dismissed and disgraced by making small dramas into major traumas to entice him back. Evident and repeated patience was extended tis clown and tore he out it all up in indignant on-air tantrums. Fuck him. He´s got what he wanted, he´s had more money and opportunity land in his lap and than sensible person might hope tio expect. The family is perfectly right to fuck him off. Every interaction is fodder for more embarrassment for an institution that exists to avoid embarrassment and critique.

I believe that all parties involved have taken this situation too far, but ultimately, the responsibility falls on Markle.

Regardless of what anyone says, it seems sudden that she became concerned about her Black identity after marrying into a monarchy with a 1,000-year history. That's a significant issue and one that would naturally take time to process. There are many facets to address for people's perceptions and expectations to change, given the extensive history involved. It feels as though she didn't allow them enough time to adjust.

Additionally, it appears that she used this situation to try to revive her struggling career.

To all you Americans who don't know the first thing about royal protocols but are authorities on who William is and how he should behave, can I ask you--if blood is thicker than water, should Mary Trump get over herself and go kiss Uncle's ass (like everyone else)? Is SHE a petty bitch who should put family ahead of her feelings of betrayal?

The BRF are relieved that Harold quit his job and said their goodbyes a long time ago. The funny part is SheKnows asserts that "even Royal exoerts" want Harold back. Haha they're the ONLY idiots who want such a thing. Good luck with the truly awful Markle, Harry. You deserve her!

I hate Meghan, Harry and Trump. Probably Trump more, but he's too depressing to focus on. I really hoped he'd lose again. Meghan and Harry constantly fuck up and get called out for it. Trump has countless dickheads like Justine Bateman singing his praises. We even have MAGAts in Australia who are convinced Klangerine is going to save the world. They are a new level of stupid.

I also come from a mixed family.

I didn't give much thought to the BRF until Meghan and Harry started blaming them for *everything*. Along with blaming the British media, of course. I felt sorry for both the BRF and the media. Meghan's a bitch who ghosted her rescue dog. Harry is atrocious.

When the Ukraine war started, all the major UK newspapers backed Ukraine. Sure, The Hun and The Daily Heil would do that, but my favourite red-top/tabloid, The Mirror, did too. They all stopped fighting and agreed on something important.

Covid? I saw William roll up his sleeve to get a jab. He works out.

I'm familiar with narcissists. I probably am one. But I love snarking on Meghan and Harry. It's my biggest sin.

Trump? I can only dream he's killed by a faecal impaction from all that junk food.

They wanted out and they got out. Why is it they haven't shut up, gone someplace secluded, and lived the quiet life they so desired?

Hmmm. Maybe they're both full of shit?

It's not hard to see Harry and his wife exactly as they are, and William - as future King - has no business trusting them. With anything.

Acknowledge each other civilly when they have to, but beyond that, Harry has torched all his bridges. It's a sorry fact, but it's the truth.

Harry could grovel for five years and I still wouldn't trust him. This is no mid-western American family that should repair common tiffs. William is about to become a Head of State. Harry's fucked, as well he should be.

I will take a shot at answering the question posed about MAGAts who hate Harry. It is a layered hate. First, they tend to be royalists/monarchists, who view democracy as less desirable than having our own king, their cult leader. Second, many of them grew up worshipping Diana and William was Diana's favorite. They then project themselves on to the beautiful white woman who captured William's heart. The perfect white family has been attacked by the lesser-loved younger brother who betrayed his white royal family to marry a Black bitch who attacked the white princess.

Please note that I do not support, nor do I condone, these feelings.

This is nothing new. William is just like his father and one of their primary personal qualities is pettiness. Charles resented all the restrictions placed on him throughout his life (mostly that he wasn’t allowed to marry Camilla when he wanted to) and William is the same. They take it out on Harry because he was allowed more freedom and still had the guts to leave.

William and Charles barely tolerate each other (and William can barely stand his own wife and children either) and I don’t expect either of them to ever mature emotionally enough to deal with Harry.

You know all this, how?

From watching The Crown, R78, that's obvious. Everything R77 said is pish-tosh.

Throw him on the dog bowl and break his necklace again Billy.

[quote] First, they tend to be royalists/monarchists, who view democracy as less desirable than having our own king, their cult leader.

Ummm. You are aware that the UK is at least as fully democratic as the US, and the monarch does nothing but what the government tells him to?

William has said he will do anything Charles asks if him, and I imagine they have have drawn closer together this year. Willuam will be Head of State, and then there's Harold's version of statesmanshio -- complaining he usn't privikeged enough and getting pretend tattoos with Jelly Roll. Nice!

R78 From the way they have behaved their entire lives

[quote] William has not been looking well in the past months. In the profile photo halfway down this article you can see he's nearly gaunt. I hope he isn't ill. Can you imagine.

William definitely looks skinnier and very unhealthy. From the side view, it was very obvious he has lost a lot of weight.

Whatever is going on behind the scenes is really taking a toll on him.

This is precisely why he should drop all of the hatred against his brother.

With all of William's other worries, Harry is the LEAST of his problems.

He needs to end the feud and move on.

R84 ThanksMeg!

Thanks OP, for a link to that esteemed journal of record. Sheknows.com.

Dream on Harold crap PR. Screechy sinewy Markle is all you get.

SheKnows, InTouch, etc. are all pretty reputable.

They're tabloids, yes. But they still do get the inside scoop..

Much like the National Enquirer, back in the day.

The byline published on the Sheknows website is:

"The joy of parenthood is real, and so is the juggle.".

Excuse me while I project vomit.

^^^ "projectile", I meant. AKA hurl, barf, spew etc.

[quote] “It’s extraordinary how what was essentially a family argument has got completely out of proportion and is now causing immense damage not just to Harry’s reputation, but also to the king, who looks weak for not being able to crack his sons’ heads together, and the future king, William, who looks petty and ridiculous,” a palace insider told the media outlet.

As if in a million years "a palace insider" would ever say they wanted the king "to crack his sons' heads together."

Try harder, Daily Beast.

Harry and Meghan are basically blackmailing the Royal family so fuck them

The leading headline on today's edition of SheKnows.com:

Teen Girls Told Us Exactly Which UGG Styles They Want This Holiday — & Here’s Where to Get Them

Yep - that's some cutting edge investigative journalism right there - move over Woodward and Bernstein! No wonder OP wasn't at all embarrassed to post a link to SheKnows.com.

R47 R64 Told you. She's here. Rachel's wannabe lesbian lover.

The whole "feud" thing is created and sustained by the garbage media, particularly the American and especially the American online-only media like She Knows Nothing. Harry has fallen out with his family. He has particularly fallen out with his brother. Harry lives abroad now, he has his own American family now and has little to do with his family in the UK. He certainly no longer has a role as a royal. Harry makes ocassional snide comments, his family in the UK say nothing. That's it. Big deal. There is no feud, they are not constantly battling, there is no great war that is sweeping everyone into its wake, forcing them to take sides.

If they ever decide to make up, that's up to them and it's a private issue. Harry will never have a role as a royal again, however.

Queen Cunt Nobody at R95 has spoken, everyone!

THREAD CLOSED!

Thanks for making my point, r96. Only nuts like you believe there is a feud.

"Sheknows" is a Johnny-come-lately mouthpiece for the Sussexes. Harry has been trying to make inroads into returning to the UK, such as leaking that he would be glad to step in while Charles and Kate were in treatment or that he was returning for a month to visit friends this Fall, all of which have been soundly ignored by family and friends alike. This is his latest attempt to manufacture a "feud" in hopes of manipulating his family to take him back. These feeble attempts never work but he keeps trying like a desperado at the slots.

[quote] And forever is until Georgie has an heir and a spare.

Someone hasn’t been paying attention.

[quote] The whole "feud" thing is created and sustained by the garbage media,

That’s ridiculous. They are estranged. They each feel aggrieved. They each have media operations casting aspersions on the other side. One side’s entire public relevance is claiming victimhood at the hands of the other—in books and TV documentaries and interviews. They claim their victimhood is based in racism when it’s really based on cunthood. Why pretend that’s not real?

Harry and Meghan want to set themselves up as an independent, rival royal family . They are not asking to be left alone to enjoy private life, though they want to be able to claim they are. That is the source of continuing strife.

None of these obscenely wealthy petty people who’ve never known a day of true selflessness add a thing to the world. Let them all annihilate each other.

It's a one sided feud. In other words, Hazzy continues hus life-long tantrum.

They're not feuding, r100. William ignores the whole thing, while Harry makes the ocassional grumpy fart while apparently focusing on his new life. There is no public war being waged.

I can't imagine William would laugh at any jokes Trump makes at his brother's expense, would he??

[quote]They wanted out and they got out.

No. They wanted a hybrid role... based in Canada doing 'some' royal stuff. The powers that be considered it briefly and then said 'it's all in or all out. That's when they moved to California.

[quote]-if blood is thicker than water, should Mary Trump get over herself and go kiss Uncle's ass (like everyone else)? Is SHE a petty bitch who should put family ahead of her feelings of betrayal?

Actually if you want to use that comparison Trump is Prince William the rich entitled one and Mary is Harry. So yes both Trump and William should apologize to Mary and Harry.

Those accusing him of looking petty are not wrong.

After scoffing at Sheknows I am now loving the Harkles' mouthpiece for all the wrong reasons. Today's trending news items:

"Oprah Was Just Spotted Wearing These Stylish Boots That Are ‘Extremely Comfortable’ & ‘Make You Feel Like a Million Bucks’"

closely followed under "News" by:

"100+ Amazingly Adorable Baby Names Beginning With ‘A’" - no massive surprise that "Archie" is trending.

Keep linking to this august news source OP - Katherine Graham would have killed for content like this. Don't let people laughing at you put you off - I'm a fan! This site is beyond Frau - it's uber Frau.

R107, compare everything Harry has said and done to what William has said and done and tell us again who's petty. Harry is so petty he's destroying his legal case against the newspapers by focusing on tiny details that are meaningless for the big picture, that even the judge has told him to drop them.

R109. Stop the score-keeping. I wasn’t even close to picking a side in the William/Harry battle. I am commenting only on William’s attitude as an individual. A person aspiring to the throne should be a sterling example of taking the high road. William is not even close. He’s a temperamental, grudge holding, insecure and entitled snob. This is not well understood by Americans: “we don’t want our Royals acting like commoners, and that’s exactly what Wills is doing. No one cares how low Harry will go. We care about what Wills is doing. “

"He’s a temperamental, grudge holding, insecure and entitled snob." - Really? Where do you get this from? He always seems charming, well-mannered, caring, interested, attentive, secure in his own skin and empathetic to others. Only if you limit your knowedge of William to crap like She Knows Nothing would you imagine that he's anything like you described.

R106, William is the betrayed one.

R112 The FUTURE KING of England is the victim? let me get out tiniest of violin. He's rich and powerful, and will be even more so shortly. Sorry but that makes him the Trump of the UK. He's a petty little bitch.

R113, whether you've been betrayed or not has nothing to do with how wealthy you are. If it did, the offence of Treason couldn't exist.

And William is by no means powerful. He is [in waiting to be] a head of state, which is almost completely a figurehead role in modern monarchies. He's got less power than a single member of Parliament.

Harry has a ton of money by most people's standards and has done nothing but whine ever since he married Diana 2.0. He continued to stab the Queen in the back while her husband and then she herself were dying, and continued to denigrate William and Kate while they were dealing with Kate's cancer. If you want evidence, we can all list the interviews, documentary series and books he's released and when. Why would ANYBODY who'd ever met him speak to him?

Saw in the news that Harry's new Polo show was released today. Out of curiosity I went to Netflix to see how hard it was being pushed. They've hidden it, at least on my app. For background, I've watched loads of royal content, sports docs and some reality content which should have guaranteed that it would have been on the forefront. It was not, even when I narrowed it down. Only when I literally searched for 'Polo' did it appear. Safe to say the Netflix deal is toast.

O/T: Harry is dead to William as he should be to any rational person. It is not pettiness, it is self preservation. Harry is damaged beyond repair.

[quote] Prince Harry is a seasoned polo player and even briefly features in the series. How involved was he in shaping it?

[quote] He was involved, I’d say, in a pretty incredible way, in that he, from the start, definitely had a vision. This is a world that he knows well that I knew nothing of. And I think that was a good collaboration in terms of someone who really knows every tiny, minute detail versus someone who’s coming as, like, the blind audience, and finding a way to meet in the middle where it’s going to cater to the world of polo that already knows it, and then bring in a slew of new fans, which is obviously our main goal. So he was very involved from the start in terms of suggesting where we might want to look for storylines. And then in the edit he was incredibly helpful. I really never actually worked with an executive producer in that sense where he had such an expertise for the sport that he could really offer excellent notes about how we were editing the game play, how to portray certain moments. And even while we were in production, he was giving so many ideas of like, “Hey, you know what I love so much about polo is that feeling when you’re on the horse and you just feel the speed and you feel the excitement and you feel the roar.” So we kept all of that in mind in terms of trying to think of, “How can we then capture that and communicate that appropriately?” And I hope we were able to do that a bit in the series.

That might be the most enthusiastic I've ever heard Harry be about anything ever. Good luck breaking that stereotype though.

Sussex Stans are so unpersuasive.

The only "side of the story" is of the Sussexes which consists of a variation the cliche "The lovers ran off to be happy away from the evil family, true love found a way", bullshit nonsense.

Conveniently for the Sussexes, for maximum exploitation (read: money making and fame-chasing) of that fairy tale narrative, we're not to notice that KC, Camilla, William and Kate cannot, and will not, ever give out their side of the story.

That's a bit of an imbalance in offered propaganda, isn't it?

Meanwhile, I'll just notice the facts: Harry and Meghan could not make a go of Royal duties, and/or they didn't want them. In and of itself, entirely understandable.

But after they exited, they went on world-wide TV and insinuated bigotry, bullying, lack of understanding, blah, blah, and blah, and for good measure, in that same interview, Meghan, the enlightened feminist, refers to Kate as "Waity Katie", a mysogynist slur, cloaking that deliberate act in some kind of false sympathy about what the tabloids have done to both her and Kate.

Not to mention Harry writing a book airing the Royal linen.

See the pattern here? The Sussexes sold-out their family, on a world-wide basis, and yet, again, Charles, and William can not and will not ever give out their "side of the story".

Yet, the Sussex stuff is what their stans fall for.

I wanted to like the Sussexes. But, it turns out that they both are unlikable, especially Markle. Still, in a way, I feel sorry for her. When the inevitable divorce happens, she'll be worse off than Harry. Men are forgiven. Women aren't.

R117 No, it didn't "turn out" they are unlikable, they akways were incompetent, lying hypocrites. You defended and tried to big them up for years, but at least you slowly came to see the light. Shouldn't have been such an imperious bitch to those with better bs detectors.

William is not “the FUTURE KING of England”, R113. This is a simple mistake often made by Americans.

R113 Trump will be USA Head of State and Government - both roles are performed by one person. William will one day be British Head of State - the British Head of Government is the Prime Minister. Separate roles. If you’re going to pontificate, especially laughably comparing William to your fascist President elect, you need to get these basic facts right or you look rather foolish.

r119, really?

Oh, get over it, r118.

I stand by every post I ever made here on this topic.

So, I didn't join in on the "And Meghan was seen on the grassy knoll" or "Meghan was spotted in the Wuhan lab releasing the Corona virus", or faked her pregnancy, level of unhinged, cheese off the cracker hatred for her, you're butt hurt.

Big Whoop.

R119= Charlotte

I think William looks underweight because he's been photographed next to that dumptruck, Trump. He looks like a man who eats McDonald's every single day. The suits and dark backgrounds can't cover it up.

agree r67 and r84... without the suit, he looks like a prison-camp inmate...

[quote]And William is by no means powerful. He is [in waiting to be] a head of state, which is almost completely a figurehead role in modern monarchies.

Oh he has no power? So why do so many powerful meet with him? Why do countries bend over backwards with security and heads of state to greet him when he travels to their country? Just a pauper in your book? You cultist Royal fans are delusional. MAGA of the UK.

I like William and I've always liked Charles.

I have no doubt that William, in private, can be difficult. Not in an overt way, but in a chilly, distant way. In fact, that's one of the very few things for which I felt some sympathy for Markle.

From the onset, William just plain and simple disliked her, and would have, no matter if Harry never existed and they met anyway. That had to have been very difficult for her.

But it turns out, aside from her just not being his cup of tea, she provided reasons to dislike her.

In public, based upon the videos I've seen, William hasn't set a foot wrong. He's polished, engaged, prepared and likable.

R126 doesn’t understand that while the role of Prince of Wales comes with a huge swag of money, it carries no power.

Wherever he travels he is there as a representative of his father, the British head of state.

Best not to comment on that which you don’t understand, R126. You just make yourself look stupid.

“Stupider”, rather.

Harry and Meghan are incessant trolls and, as we see daily on DL, the best approach is to ignore and not feed trolls. William can participate or not how he chooses and may not want to give the trolls, be it the Sussexes or the press, their daily feeding. The fact thatches non-participation and silence is made such an issue here just proves the hunger of the trolls.

I think the original trepidation towards MM was that she was an American. When you’re outside the country is when you realize how much the US dominates the world news and people elsewhere resent it. So when an American comes in with that “breath of fresh air” tag, the mood becomes antagonistic. Also anyone from outside will have a difficult time marrying in but a foreigner who only hears about the glitzy stuff….horse-drawn carriages, jewelry, Command Performances…doesn’t know about the restrictions. Can’t say this, can’t wear that. It’s anathema to someone whose focus for a decade had been how to promote oneself in the media to get jobs.

William could see this whereas Harry could not.

[quote] No. They wanted a hybrid role... based in Canada doing 'some' royal stuff. The powers that be considered it briefly and then said 'it's all in or all out. That's when they moved to California.

Prince Edward and his wife Sophie also wanted a hybrid role (in the '90s or so?). They didn't want to move to Canada, though.

The answer was NO.

I thought Edward and Sophie tried but it went badly? She had a PR firm or some such and got embroiled in a minor scandal, and he did tv documentaries? Oh something like that. But they have thoroughly redeemed themselves, which Meghan would never have the humility (or ability) to do - but I think Harry could. He could be next-gen Andrew, but I think Harry could have a better life than PA if he hurried up and reformed soon.

[quote] William could see this whereas Harry could not.

Right on, r130.

And, on a related topic, I know I'm in the minority on the following, but I still maintain that maybe the better course was for William to avoid what he did.

That is, express to Harry his advice to wait.

That stuff NEVER goes over well with a relative or friend who only wants to hear encouragement and approval. Anything less is perceived as hostility. Yes, I know that's wrong on the part of the person who wants that, but still.

William is just mad bc Harry is cute, sexy and has a nice bod while he's drab, dull and frumpy😅

Fool me once.,shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me.

[quote] In public, based upon the videos I've seen, William hasn't set a foot wrong. He's polished, engaged, prepared and likable.

Except when he went APE SHIT and SCREAMED at that man, while out biking.

Seriously, he looked deranged.

THAT is the real William.

THAT is what Harry was talking about in his book.

He lost his temper defending his family’s privacy once in 42 years? Don’t be so silly R136.

But Harry is truly terrified of him, R137.

Calling Meghan “Diana 2.0” says it all. Harry did not want to watch the UK tabloid press hound another woman he loved to death and he left as a result. It’s that simple. If William can’t understand or sympathize with that then he hasn’t dealt with his own issues about his mother’s death.

—And halt that media-attention gravy train!??? Eff off!!!

R127, this video from when Harry and Meghan were still in the UK and pretending to be working royals would suggest that, on the contrary, Meghan was quite charmed by William and he was polite and amiable with her.

I totally disagree with the interpretation provided in the caption, though. Looks to me more like William is chatting in a friendly manner with Meghan, perhaps to make her feel comfortable during this public appearance. She certainly enjoys chatting with William and even turns to chat to him again with a genuine big smile on her face. Harry appears to be giving her advice on what she should be doing, and her response seems to be a forced smile. In this video she's clearly enjoying chatting to William way more than she's enjoying chatting to Harry. There are also other videos and photos from the pre-split days, where Meghan is gazing quite admiringly at William.

R139 At no point was Meghan "hounded" by the UK tabloid press.

Really, r139? Because the media were literally hounding Catherine in the earlier years, chasing her down the street, trying to snap pics of her in cars. Look also at how horrendous they were to her in the first half of this year when she was ill, exerting immense pressure on her and Willam to give them "material", some even lying about their marriage and saying William was having an affair, many implying all sorts of horrible things. The media never literally chased Meghan in the same way.

If anyone is a Diana 2.0, it's Catherine as she has succeeded Diana as the Princess of Wales. In contrast, Harry's only sympathy point is relentlessly to exploit the memory of his dead mother.

From the video at r141, I wouldn't be surprised if Meghan's jaundiced view of the British royal family and its trappings was due to everything being filtered via Harry. Contrast the differing behaviour of William and Harry towards Meghan in the video. William is chatty, smiling, jokey, perhaps trying to make Meghan feel comfortable. She's willingly turning to him, with a big smile, chatting back. Harry is all instructions, look straight ahead, forced smiles, pointing directions, cutting her off from a nice, friendly chat. Her expression stiffens as Harry talks to her, she looks uncomfortable.

[quote]Harry did not want to watch the UK tabloid press hound another woman he loved to death

They were mostly European press following Diana in Paris. Also, William understood that Diana was not just a hapless victim. Certainly she received heavy attention from the paparazzi from the age of 19 on, but she did also play a lot of games with them. She would call them to inform them of her whereabouts when she wanted their attention, then cry and carry on when she didn't. She invited them to take pictures of her on the yacht with Dodi, but the night of her death, for some reason they were so frightening that the car had to outrun them.

The whole key to their different psychologies today is that William was old enough and smart enough to understand (at least) that the side of Diana the DL is well across existed, whereas Harry believed all her own PR, and still does. Just as he believes Meghan's.

I've come to the conclusion thst Harold is not just mentally ill, he us mentally disabled. Not smart or takented in any way, stuck forever as a crying dim 12 year old with no curiosity.

[quote] Harry is cute, sexy and has a nice bod

Are you posting from 2010?

That video at r141 does nothing to disprove my contention at r127 that William dislikes Markle.

I stand by that belief.

We're all going to interpret how we will, but actually, that video shows what a professional William is. Of course, he's "polite and amiable" with Markle. They're in public.

From sentiency, an immediate member of the BRF is conditioned to internalize, know, or at least expect, that when in public, their existence is being documented on cameras held by both the media and general public.

I'm assuming most of us on this thread are long-time observers of the BRF. I can't count the numerous times that QE II, Prince Phillip, William, Catherine are shown in media video, accompanied by their toddler children, into, say, Christmas services.

Do you think those children are oblivious to the reality that their images are being recorded while they do that, to be broadcast out into the world? They grow-up in those conditions. We don't.

What a weird, unique life that must be. But, maybe not to them because they don't know to know any other way of existence.

It reminds me of an anecdote somebody conveyed about meeting JFK, Jr. when he was hustling around marketing "George" magazine.

JFK, Jr, was entering into an office for a meeting. This person said that the woman that was helping them with secretarial duties was so nervous and flustered she could barely speak. They said everybody was practically standing on their desks, trying to catch a glimpse of him. JFK was seemingly oblivious to the reaction to his presence.

He couldn't resist asking JFK, Jr. how it was to live a life knowing that he has that effect on others around him. He said JFK, Jr. told him something like (paraphrase) "I don't know to know any other way. I've always known since a child I was well-known." or words to that effect.

If anybody thinks that William isn't going to be a smooth pro when he knows the cameras are on him, and particularly if he's not exactly thrilled by those around him- Markle- of course he's going to be amiable.

Although, I will say, it's fun to think that William was engaging in a bit of subtle mischief within the infamous "scarfing" video.

Oh, and by the way, now William's dislike of Markle has been vindicated. She reminded the world of the cruel tabloid name "Waity Katie" after it had faded and insinuated bigotry during the Oprah interview.

Foolishly, the Sussexes pushed all their chips in on those brief moments with Oprah telling their story.

Well, OK, they had every right to do that. But there are consequences to those risks and I don't think, in the long-term, the upside has materialized for them.

The video clip at r141 is interesting to me, not because of William but how eager Meghan was to pay attention to him to the point of ignoring Harry. Harry persists like an angry gnat and she briefly listens but doesn’t look him in the eye and then she turns to engage William again. Harry doesn’t react though. I wish the clip were longer.

R149, it has been suggested here many times that Meghan's real aim all along was to try to snag William, and when she realized he despised her she took Harry and strode off in a huff. She had no intention of spending her life curtseying to OTHER women.

Me, too, r149.

And that's the difference between an actor who is trained to respond in character when the director says "Action", or stop being that character when a director announces "Cut!" and a person who is conditioned to real life and its attendant cameras, as is William.

That's the mistake Markle makes here. She hasn't yet developed (nor will she ever) the discipline and knowledge to know that as a Royal and in public, you're always "on" and being observed. You know then to resist those impulses to ignore your husband and attend to his brother.

There is no such thing as "Cut. That's a wrap"!

That's a very hard thing to do. I won't single Markle out for lapsing. Even Charles and Diana were caught in pix, in public during joint appearances, with facial expressions that conveyed their deep unhappiness.

I won't join in with others in believing that Markle had her cap set on William. I want to grant her at least that much. But in that video, in that moment, it's pretty clear Harry could've been on Mars.

Diana 2.0. There’s no clearer indication Harry is a deluded moron. There was never any danger of Meghan becoming Diana. She couldn’t have done that in a hundred years. And I’m saying that as someone who couldn’t fathom the Diana adoration

The only thing more pathetic than an accident of birth wanker is an apoligist for an accident of birth wanker.

Except for the wanker who can’t spell, R153.

R153 is referring to accident-of-birth wanker Prince Harry, of course, who has no redeeming features and expects to be treated like an important person who should be listened to simply because of his birth while not giving a shit about the people upon whom his title and status are dependent. He is completely unlike his brother, who daily works hard to make the British people feel proud that he represents us.

What a shame that Harry *was* born and not a daughter.

How does he reconcile the fact that Diana was in regular contact with reporters, particularly Richard Kay of the Daily Heil? She spoke to him the day she died.

Meghan has always had a crush on William. Here's the "scarfing" incident. Where Meghan tries to look at William and get his attention. Instead, he's engrossed in adjusting his scarf (trying to ignore her).