California needs a republican governor

When does Gavin's term end? Can he run again?

Oh, bullshit. Reagan deserves the lion's share of the blame for California's homeless issues.

NO, we do NOT need a Repig.

[quote]Please just round these people up and make them disappear.

And do what with them OP?

[quote]And do what with them OP?

Shoot them, stab them, throw them off a bridge, decapitate them and fashion their pelvis into a fuck toy…..

Surprise me!

R3 Do you prefer another Screwsom?

Shoot some more CEOs first.

We tried that not too long ago OP. TOTAL DISASTER not TOTAL RECALL. Arnold was so bad at his job it was the first time in years put CA into debt. Also admitted later he was basically a fuck up and should have tried to work with the rest of the state legislature instead of trying to give them the finger.

FUCK. NO.

Texas has had 30 years of Republican rule and there are still homeless people on the streets. Give them power and they won't do a damn thing about homelessness or public health. They will instead focus on abortion, obsessing over transgender people and placating religious nuts by restricting porn access. Not to mention having their lips glued to Donald Trump's fat ass.

[quote]Please just round these people up and make them disappear.

That shit won't fly right now while we still have just over a month of guaranteed Democracy and the rule of law left. After that, the round 'em all up and keep them out or sight method might be on the table. If the president wants to do it, who will stop him? Congress or the Supreme Court? Good luck with that.

Sure. Caitlyn Jenner will run again, and we’ll see how that works out for you.

As a fourth generation Californian, I watched what happened.

California used to have special homes for the crazies that reside on the street. Reagan closed those homes and threw all those people on the street.

Why doesn't OP send all the crazies back to the state they came from.

In other words ReThuglicans started the mess. We don't need a

Yes 40 years ago, Reagan started this mess and Democrats have allowed it to continue and get worse. I think some sanity is returning though as Cali can prohibit some homeless camping now.

I'm originally from a state (no longer live there) that buses it's homeless to Cali. They give them a slap on the back and a one-way ticket there.

I know my shit state-of-origin is hardly the only one that does that.

I can't imagine how overwhelming it is to be the place everyone sends their homeless, to deal with until they die. California is an incredible state to take in that burden (because it is).

I wish we/they had the facilities and laws to help. Not only to stop my and other states from dumping those people like they are garbage in a landfill but to improve on the system that Reagan dismantled in the 1980s. Politicians should take the bull by the horns and reopen the asylums. There's no other humane way to handle the homelessness crisis left to us.

OP=Trump fag with money. ditto fuck no.

Yes because only a Trumper with money cares about the homeless. Not the thousands of poor and middle class people in cities who have to out up with their shit. Literally.

[quote] California needs a shameless, uncaring, stone cold murderous governor

FIFY, cunt OP!

R2 That may be true but that was 44 years ago. Time to move on.

[quote] Yes because only a Trumper with money cares about the homeless.

Spoken like a bleeding heart liberal. That's fine but how about the rest of the population, i.e. 81% of residents? Does anyone care about them? And do you really think the Dems have been effective with issues like cost of living, housing, and the homeless as well?

[quote]Does anyone care about them? And do you really think the Dems have been effective with issues like cost of living, housing, and the homeless as well?

Well wait until next month, when the few "bleeding heart liberals" and Democrats you are bitching about are rendered powerless and much more level-headed Republicans take control and finally act to tackle cost of living issues, the housing shortage and homeless problems despite never mentioning any of those issues as their priorities. What was promised initially was mass deportations, retribution against political enemies and undying fealty to Donald J. Trump. Anything else will be placed on the back burner until the president's whims are sufficiently satisfied.

Pete Wilson was a great governor!

Nah. If the Repugs get their hands on Medicaid California will do what it can to keep people insured. Covered California is a great program.

There are no Republicans. Only MAGA.

[quote] Oh, bullshit. Reagan deserves the lion's share of the blame for California's homeless issues.

Reagan is fully responsible because he closed the state's mental institutions.

[quote] Spoken like a bleeding heart liberal. That's fine but how about the rest of the population, i.e. 81% of residents? Does anyone care about them?

They seem to be pretty good at caring about themselves. My version of their motto goes like this: “Fuck off! I’ve got mine!”

But you’d probably prefer the DL version: They’re fine! They send their love!

OP is Defacto, who lived in Cali and goes back there occasionally.

He’s a shitstain up to his old tricks. And it’s the weekend.

OP, why do you want California to be like West Virginia? The poorest states are mostly red states. Also the states with the most crime

[quote]Covered California is a great program.

Oh, spare me! I had covered California when I was unemployed or a contractor with no benefits. None of my doctors would take it so I had to pay out-of-pocket for everything anyway, in addition to the almost $600 a month premium. It is not the same as a regular health plan and was basically worthless. And it turns out since I was making too much money anyway to get a subsidy, I would’ve been better off with a regular plan.

R27 I don’t, that’s the point. If I wanted to live in a shit hole full of meth heads, I would live in West Virginia. But when your paying as much money as I do to live in California with perfect weather, I would at least like to see the state government round up all the homeless people and dregs of society and throw them off a bridge.

You’re*

[quote]Oh, spare me! I had covered California when I was unemployed or a contractor with no benefits. None of my doctors would take it so I had to pay out-of-pocket for everything anyway, in addition to the almost $600 a month premium. It is not the same as a regular health plan and was basically worthless. And it turns out since I was making too much money anyway to get a subsidy, I would’ve been better off with a regular plan.

Covered California in no way prevented you from getting a "regular plan." Purchasing your own insurance is always an option.

I'm not discounting your experience, but I'm curious as to how none of your doctors would "take it." CC isn't a health plan in and of itself, but a bridge to getting an insurance health plan. I used CC to get a Kaiser Silver plan.

[quote] Covered California is a great program.

I second R28 as a consumer. As a provider, commercial insurance was the reason why I stopped accepting insurance for payment. I found myself working into the wee hours to fulfill their ridiculous demands for documentation to receive a quarter of what I needed to sustain a practice, and that's assuming that you can collect from patients who frequently don't pay their portion. People don't realize how much non-direct patient work is required in order to satisfy these monsters and how they are making it impossible for single private practices to survive, and yes, this includes Covered California which uses commercial insurers. Which is why so many health care professionals are no longer accepting it.

Gavin is doing the best he can.

Plus he is stuck in an arranged marriage to a crazy woman who trapped him with 4 kids.

Free Gavin!

Republicans are the root of all evil.

Don’t you know that? Jesus Christ, OP.

[quote]But when your paying as much money as I do to live in California with perfect weather, I would at least like to see the state government round up all the homeless people and dregs of society and throw them off a bridge.

Yep, this sounds totally sane and coherent proposition. Let the government round up the "undesirables" and kill 'em all because I made a choice to live in a well-known, high-cost state with great weather and they're blocking my view.

[quote]As a provider, commercial insurance was the reason why I stopped accepting insurance for payment. I found myself working into the wee hours to fulfill their ridiculous demands for documentation to receive a quarter of what I needed to sustain a practice, and that's assuming that you can collect from patients who frequently don't pay their portion. People don't realize how much non-direct patient work is required in order to satisfy these monsters and how they are making it impossible for single private practices to survive, and yes, this includes Covered California which uses commercial insurers.

I don't doubt insurance is a nightmare for care providers as well as patients. But for most, not accepting insurance for payment isn't feasible. Does the patient have to pay in advance for an appendectomy, a hysterectomy, cancer treatment? Most people can't afford those things, hence insurance.

[quote]Oh, bullshit. Reagan deserves the lion's share of the blame for California's homeless issues.

[quote]Reagan is fully responsible because he closed the state's mental institutions.

Perhaps you haven't noticed but Reagan has been out of the White House since 1988.

That's 36 years ago.

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R31 You should know the answer then. You can buy many different plans through the exchange, but they are all “Covered California” plans. With my doctors, it was always “We don’t take any Covered California plans.” “We take Blue Cross, but not Covered California Bkue Cross.”

Thanks, r39. I did not know that. Here's a piece from the L.A. Times that outlines the phenomenon, though doesn't completely explain it.

Always up for learning something new at the DL, whether it's about health insurance or Fred Schneider not douching before anal sex.

[quote] I don't doubt insurance is a nightmare for care providers as well as patients. But for most, not accepting insurance for payment isn't feasible. Does the patient have to pay in advance for an appendectomy, a hysterectomy, cancer treatment? Most people can't afford those things, hence insurance.

True, but this is the reason why your doctor spends 3 minutes with you and bolts to the next patient. Insurance companies are the bane of our society.

[quote]California used to have special homes for the crazies that reside on the street. Reagan closed those homes and threw all those people on the street.

Now we send them to Congress.

OP apparently thinks Governors are dictators and can make their own laws.

As long as we’re dumping undesirables off the bridges, don’t forget the trannies.

[quote]Shoot them, stab them, throw them off a bridge, decapitate them and fashion their pelvis into a fuck toy…..

Might I suggest you talk to your doctor about adjusting your meds?

R1, Newsom’s term runs through ‘26; he’s term-limited beyond that.

R24, the closing of mental hospitals -deinstitutionalization - was a bipartisan movement very popular in the ‘70s. It was championed by most civil libertarians of the day.

R37 Perhaps you haven't noticed you can't un-ring a bell.

[quote][R2] That may be true but that was 44 years ago. Time to move on.

A problem that was solved, albeit horrendously, was blown up by a Republican who thought doing nothing was a better solution. Don't be fooled by R46's claim that "it was a bipartisan movement" which is false. He'll try to claim that the reason Reagan closed the institutions was because of an ACLU suit (due to the institutions being run horrendously, which they were), and what he'll forget to remind everyone of is that the lawsuit directed the governor to create a better system. He never did. And then he took the ax to the Federal level, cut social safety net programs that were working, albeit horrendously, and dumped millions of people — including veterans suffering from inadequate care post deployment — on the streets. He then proposed that they'd benefit more from jobs, so gave those savings to the wealthy in the form of tax cuts and reductions in job-killing regulation, who were supposed to start companies to provide jobs for these unemployed and homeless people. Instead, they bought yachts, mansions, and socked money away in tax shelters abroad.

TL;DR: Reagan gave tax dollars previously spent solving the homeless problem and gave them to the wealthy as a tax cut. Sound familiar?

[quote] and Democrats have allowed it to continue and get worse.

The funding for this massive program required to fix this mess was given away as tax cuts 40+ years ago, and to do anything to resolve the homeless crisis would require expenditures into the $trillions. Where are they going to sleep? Who is going to build and run these facilities? How do we motivate mentally ill people to leave the street where they can easily buy and use drugs to a facility where they cannot (or try getting it past this public that they're paying for drug dens! I dare you!). Which begs the question: who is going to pay for this?

[bold]You[/bold] answer these questions if you know enough about it to criticize the Democratic [italic]and[/italic] Republican governors who have done little to solve the problem. At least Gavin has a plan, got a bond issue passed, and taken several steps (including some that have outraged homeless advocates) to begin to solve the problem.

Big problems take a long time and a lot of money to solve. That doesn't mean we shouldn't try, but no single governor (or president) is going to be able to solve the problem in a two terms (if s/he's fortunate enough to get reelected). Truly solving this issue will take either long-term Democratic party rule or bipartisan cooperation with a shared vision, either of which has about as much chance of happening as I do getting to fuck Brad Pitt.

[quote]Time to move on.

If any of this sounds like a prediction, it is. Trump is going to slash government spending on programs that benefit [italic]everyone.[/italic] It's the Heritage Foundation's wet dreams come to life. Reagan boasted that he implemented 60% of the Heritage Foundation's Project 1980, and the result is a homeless crisis that we cannot solve, income disparity unlike any time in history, and a Federal government neutered sufficient to prevent any real action on climate change. And here we are today on the cusp of Trump implementing Project 2025. We see the results of Reagan's devil deal with Heritage; imagine what it's going to look like when we do away with the structure and administration of the things that keeps the country secure, prosperous, and the world's singular leader: no EPA, no FDA, no FDIC, no NIH, no NWS, none of the agencies that set us apart as the nation that worked. It's the ultimate irony: he's destroying everything that made America great in the first place.

R48, Michigan, at least, deinstitutionalization was very much a pet project of civil libertarians to stop what was critically seen as the warehousing of the mentally ill.

[quote]Perhaps you haven't noticed you can't un-ring a bell.

Bullshit. Decades of Democrat rule could have, should have, taken care of the problem if there was the desire to.

Blaming Reagan...36 years later... at this point is absurd.

And no mention of the ACLU and the "Rights of Institutionalized Persons Act of 1980." ? And it's contribution to the crisis?

^ In Michigan

Also OP:

*The Dissolution of the LGBTQ+ Community - The Time is Now*

[quote]Drop the T

[quote]Drop the Q

[quote]Kick them hard

[quote]Scream “fuck you!”

[quote]Trump in the White House

[quote]Is all their fault

[quote]Their ideology

[quote]Is a fucking cult!

*When are democrats going to get the memo that white men are the way forward?*

[quote]No bitches. No coloreds. No matter what those nappy headed talking heads will say.

*When was the exact moment when the trans became part of the gay community?*

[quote]And why exactly did this happen?

Only retarded people say "Sorry..." Why are you sorry? How odd.

[quote]Pete Wilson was a great governor!

Sure, that's why defrocked his ass. LMFAO

[quote]Blaming Reagan...36 years later... at this point is absurd.

Blaming Democrats 50 years later sure worked for Roe v Wade and the Republicans.

Matt, either increase or decrease the dosage of those psychotropic drugs. Whatever it is right now, it's not working.