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Social Media Has Little Sympathy for Murdered Health Insurance Exec

The fatal shooting of UnitedHealthcare CEO Brian Thompson outside a midtown Manhattan hotel on Wednesday morning was a shock to the city and the nation. But as police hunted for the missing gunman in what they called a “premeditated, preplanned, targeted attack,” social media erupted with contempt for the health insurance industry he represented — and his company in particular.

“Saw mainstream news coverage about the killing of the CEO of United Healthcare on TikTok and I think political and industry leaders might want to read the comments and think hard about them,” wrote political activist Tobita Chow in a post on X, formerly Twitter. In screenshots he shared, TikTok users reacted to the story with blistering references to the costly and often unnavigable for-profit U.S. health insurance system. “Sending prior authorization, denied claims, collections & prayers to his family,” wrote one.

“As someone covered under UnitedHealthCare I can completely understand the actions taken,” wrote an X user replying to a news link about Thompson’s murder “being investigated as a possible hit,” according to a statement from law enforcement. “Did he have a pre-existing condition?” asked another. And under an ABC News TikTok on police officers’ efforts to find the killer, a user asked, “Why are they investigating this?”

“Got a push notification to exercise caution because the United Healthcare shooter is still at large,” noted standup comic Samantha Ruddy in her own X post. “I personally do not feel like I am on the shooter’s radar because I am not the CEO of a highly divisive multi billion dollar insurance company.”

Thompson’s violent death outside a hotel where UnitedHealthcare was hosting an investor conference didn’t just prompt scathing jokes but heated criticism of the insurer he had helmed since 2021. One image that made the rounds online was a chart from the personal finance website ValuePenguin, which found that UnitedHealthcare denies 32 percent of all in-network claims relating to individual health insurance plans — twice the industry average.

Some pointed to headlines describing how UnitedHealthcare has used an allegedly faulty AI algorithm to assess claims and deny care for seriously ill patients on private Medicare Advantage plans, as described in an ongoing class-action lawsuit brought by the estates of two deceased people who were denied coverage for their care at an extended-care facility.

Among those who amplified that story was right-wing podcaster Tim Pool, suggesting that Americans across the political spectrum can find rare consensus when it comes to disdain for their free-market health care system. “It’s actually kind of touching that the one thing that can bring together our fractious and disunited country is celebrating the assassination of a health insurance CEO,” wrote University of Virginia historian David Austin Walsh on X.

Another ongoing lawsuit against UnitedHealthcare’s parent company, UnitedHealth Group, named Thompson along with two other top executives. A pension for firefighters in the city of Hollywood, Florida, filed the securities fraud class action earlier this year, accusing Thompson and his colleagues of selling $120 million of their UnitedHealth shares after learning of a U.S. Justice Department antitrust investigation of the company — but before the probe became public.

Between coverage of such alleged profiteering, UnitedHealthcare’s grim reputation, and disclosures of the millions the company spends on lobbying and Thompson’s $10 million salary, there was hardly a shortage of material for vicious riffs. “It’s no surprise that gallows humor is responding to the assassination of a gallows business model CEO,” observed Dr. Steven Thrasher in a post on X.

A professor at Northwestern University, Thrasher is the author of The Viral Underclass, a book about inequalities in health care that determine who has privileged access to medical resources. “Health insurance lets ghouls decide whether live or die based upon how much your life or death will affect shareholder value.”

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by Anonymousreply 191December 10, 2024 4:49 AM

I say we’re off to a good start, then.

It’s high time we, the peons and the pillaged started rolling the goddam guillotines.

HIGH TIME.

And set their motherfucking heads on some motherfucking pikes as a warning to others just like them.

by Anonymousreply 1December 5, 2024 7:44 PM

I don't know; I would not want to give Trump an excuse to impose martial law.

by Anonymousreply 2December 5, 2024 7:47 PM

I'm with you 100%, R1.

It's about time we started putting corporate heads on pikes again.

The 1% have pushed people to their breaking points.

by Anonymousreply 3December 5, 2024 7:49 PM

A right wing podcaster? Maybe he should ask himself why he votes for Republicans who make it worse.

by Anonymousreply 4December 5, 2024 7:50 PM

Hope his job was worth it.

by Anonymousreply 5December 5, 2024 7:52 PM

Well that's one way to avoid a co-pay.

by Anonymousreply 6December 5, 2024 8:01 PM

The 1% have absolute faith in their Blackwater protection contracts and armed robot dogs. They're busy ordering some new killer drones to suppress the uprising of the great unwashed.

by Anonymousreply 7December 5, 2024 8:25 PM

This is fine.

by Anonymousreply 8December 5, 2024 8:28 PM

I didn't want him to die. Just to be hospitalized and treated the exact same way all those who have that health insurance would be..

by Anonymousreply 9December 5, 2024 8:50 PM

No one deserves to be gunned down like an animal in the street.

by Anonymousreply 10December 5, 2024 8:54 PM

Really r10?

Some people deserve killing

by Anonymousreply 11December 5, 2024 9:04 PM

I changed my mind.

Good riddance. He was a monster.

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by Anonymousreply 12December 5, 2024 9:06 PM

They'll be writing songs about this guy.

by Anonymousreply 13December 5, 2024 9:10 PM

Long eyelashed foreign hottie is my hero! ❤️

The exec was a disgusting individual, employing AI to deny benefits to the sick.

Viva la revolution!!!

by Anonymousreply 14December 5, 2024 9:13 PM

His wife liked him-maybe he was packing? (and the money)

by Anonymousreply 15December 5, 2024 9:14 PM

The shooter is adorable.

by Anonymousreply 16December 5, 2024 9:15 PM

He’s heading to Florida-

by Anonymousreply 17December 5, 2024 9:15 PM

R15 - his wife left him a few years ago - he bought another house down the street. They didn't live together.

I have a feeling this guy, climbing the corporate ladder, wanted to upgrade his wife. That's what these guys do.

by Anonymousreply 18December 5, 2024 9:18 PM

[quote] Hope his job was worth it.

It was.

Speaking only for me and my much younger l̶o̶v̶e̶r̶ personal trainer, of course.

by Anonymousreply 19December 5, 2024 9:21 PM

He needed to go to God.

by Anonymousreply 20December 5, 2024 9:27 PM

He got off easy compared to the countless insured people who’ve paid into the system but have been denied coverage — suffering for years, in agony, going bankrupt, even dying due to not being able to get medical care, often leaving families behind.

by Anonymousreply 21December 5, 2024 9:39 PM

Perp checked in a hostel using fake NJ driver license. Three shells left at scene had words showing this was revenge for a claim that was denied.

by Anonymousreply 22December 5, 2024 10:26 PM

Kind of related to this topic.

Tuesday, 12/10, is apparently "Giving Tuesday," i.e. donations to non-profits/charities.

I've received several emails lately from Penn Medicine and Jefferson Health Systems, two of the largest non-profit hospital systems in the Philly area, requesting donations to their organizations.

In 2023, Penn Medicine has revenues of 10 BILLION dollars. Jefferson has 7.4 BILLION dollars.

FUCK THAT NOISE. I do NOT donate money to organizations, profit or non-profit, with those kinds of revenue streams, especially when a lot of those revenues go to pay bloated hospital executive staff salaries and their benefits.

by Anonymousreply 23December 5, 2024 10:29 PM

Yes, this is why people hate migrants. The illegals have access the free medical care. While regular tax paying folks get denied, bankrupted by medical bills...

by Anonymousreply 24December 5, 2024 10:36 PM

I have a feeling we're going to see a lot more killings once the American Nazi Party takes power on 1/20.

by Anonymousreply 25December 5, 2024 10:37 PM

[quote] Three shells left at scene had words showing this was revenge for a claim that was denied.

If you had watched years and years of murder mysteries, you'd have added that this was either "revenge for a claim denied" or it was set up to look like revenge for a claim denied.

So here's a rich man, separated from his 51-year old wife. The first public words out of her mouth mentioned that he was receiving threats, probably relating to insurance coverage. She wasn't sure. Wouldn't you want to see her cell phone, just to rule her out?

by Anonymousreply 26December 5, 2024 10:38 PM

Too bad he wasn't the one who took a shot at......the fat orange baboon.

by Anonymousreply 27December 5, 2024 10:40 PM

Has anyone started a Go Fund Me for the shooter?

by Anonymousreply 28December 5, 2024 10:41 PM

Did he have a life insurance policy?

Trust me, they gonna be looking everywhere especially his wife

by Anonymousreply 29December 5, 2024 10:44 PM

In true Datalounge spirit, we have to talk about how cute the killer is.

by Anonymousreply 30December 5, 2024 11:54 PM

Man the comments about this guy on social media are brutal. I wish I could say I have sympathy for his family but I'm not feeling it.

by Anonymousreply 31December 6, 2024 12:20 AM

The most popular comment on the story on the NYT website:

[quote]When all legal avenues to hold the powerful to account have been removed, and all attempts at reform have been defanged, this becomes the inevitability. An industry that provides no value, exponentially raises the cost of an product none of us choose to obtain and has so thoroughly purchased our politicians that public healthcare is beyond the Overton window should not be surprised at this result.

by Anonymousreply 32December 6, 2024 12:23 AM

If we had universal healthcare like the rest of the industrialized world this never would have happened.

by Anonymousreply 33December 6, 2024 12:27 AM

[quote] He needed to go to God.

God doesn't want him.

But I'll take him.

by Anonymousreply 34December 6, 2024 12:32 AM

SHOOT

THEM

ALL

by Anonymousreply 35December 6, 2024 1:06 AM

You know what? I'm thinking this is mostly controlled opposition and astroturfing with the bot farms to get us all riled up and bloodthirsty, all the lunatic fringe out here posting how much they want to murder the rich. All it takes it one idiot to start a war that none of us will win if it's some foreign national sowing discord. Fuck the CEO but he'll be replaced with another stooge in 10 business days, the enemy is the entire for profit healthcare system.

by Anonymousreply 36December 6, 2024 1:21 AM

R36 must be a CEO.

I hope you're quaking in your boots, motherfucker.

The assassins are coming.

by Anonymousreply 37December 6, 2024 1:25 AM

Fuck him!

by Anonymousreply 38December 6, 2024 1:26 AM

As usual "Social Media" exposes all the scum. I hope and somewhat believe that expressed opinions in social media are just amplified opinions of a minority. I might be wrong. But I must believe that to go on with my life and not kill myself.

by Anonymousreply 39December 6, 2024 1:29 AM

Nice to see the Trump revolution has fully entrenched itself here, via the MAGA "KILL 'EM" stool specimens, pretending to be victimized as they refuse to brush their tooth.

by Anonymousreply 40December 6, 2024 1:30 AM

R9 Yes and for a fictional example the Saw movies played out because the main character had his cancer treatment denied by his insurance and basically given his death papers to go. his traps were meant to be a lesson in fighting for life with people that were pissing what time they had left away and the point being these rich cunts don't need to die but they need to live how the other half lives. Get disabled lose their jobs and see what it's like fighting their fuckshit.

by Anonymousreply 41December 6, 2024 1:30 AM

Maybe if CEOs start getting gunned down in the streets, we can get some rational gun laws in Murika.

by Anonymousreply 42December 6, 2024 1:34 AM

I hope they go after real estate investors and developers next.

Greedy fuckers causing astronomical home prices and rental prices.

Another out-of-control industry.

by Anonymousreply 43December 6, 2024 1:41 AM

[quote] If we had universal healthcare like the rest of the industrialized world this never would have happened.

I remember years ago a Canadian actress living here in the US made a joke that Breaking Bad could have never be set in Canada because Walter's cancer treatments would have been covered under the Canadian universal system.

I can't remember which actress made the joke.

by Anonymousreply 44December 6, 2024 1:50 AM

I surely don't want him killed, but also consider how many thousands of insurance customers get bogus denials of coverage each year and end of dying unnecessarily in order to further their annual corporate profits and get bigger bonuses for CEOs and top executives.

by Anonymousreply 45December 6, 2024 2:28 AM

In my opinion, anyone of Medicare age who opts for a Medicare Advantage Plan is just feeding the beast.

I don't want a goddamn health insurance company anywhere near making decisions about my healthcare. That will be strictly between me and my doctors.

by Anonymousreply 46December 6, 2024 2:36 AM

R43, residential property is being bought up by hedge funds and foreign investors.

The US should BAN foreign companies or individuals or investors from buying US real estate, period.

by Anonymousreply 47December 6, 2024 2:36 AM

I used to be a kinder, more compassionate person and believed, like Gandhi, that the means are the ends in the making. No more in this fucked up country.

I think about all the people who were bankrupted so this CEO could make his ten million dollar annual salary and the shareholders would make their stock profits. I think of the people who suffered agonizing pain because of being denied affordable care. I think of the people this company literally killed by denying them care.

The world is a better place with him dead.

I'd like to find it in myself to feel compassion for his family -- but what do you think the odds are that they've looked the other way these years and enjoyed the comforts of wealth at the expense of others? Damned high.

by Anonymousreply 48December 6, 2024 2:36 AM

It had to be a hit. How would this guy know he would be walking at 6 am to the hotel he was speaking at?

by Anonymousreply 49December 6, 2024 3:06 AM

R46 I tried Medicare Supplemental plan but it was costing me $1K a month. Unaffordable for someone on social security income. I was paying less for better health care coverage when I was employed.

by Anonymousreply 50December 6, 2024 3:12 AM

[quote]It had to be a hit. How would this guy know he would be walking at 6 am to the hotel he was speaking at?

Someone fingered him. I don't think this was a lone gunman.

by Anonymousreply 51December 6, 2024 3:36 AM

Not a pro per these experts.

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by Anonymousreply 52December 6, 2024 3:44 AM

Digusting virtue signaling idiots.

Hey, here's an idea. How about working to get senators and congressman into office who actually want to change the healthcare system instead of cheering for murder.

How much you want to be these same people are against the death penalty for actual criminals.

by Anonymousreply 53December 6, 2024 3:52 AM

I mean, these things happen!

by Anonymousreply 54December 6, 2024 4:02 AM

[quote]If we had universal healthcare like the rest of the industrialized world this never would have happened.

We can't have universal healthcare in the US because we're so afraid that one single person we don't like will get it. That's basically what it comes down to.

by Anonymousreply 55December 6, 2024 4:23 AM

Really R11? The law and murder charges therein would disagree.

by Anonymousreply 56December 6, 2024 4:37 AM

You are a pussy ^

by Anonymousreply 57December 6, 2024 4:42 AM

What a great thing. The super rich who make money off the backs of everybody else deserve to die

by Anonymousreply 58December 6, 2024 4:53 AM

“One criticism of UnitedHealthcare that has garnered attention following the shooting involves a lawsuit alleging the company uses artificial intelligence (AI) to deny coverage to some elderly patients who are on a Medicare Advantage plan, despite allegedly being aware that the algorithm has a 90 percent error rate.”

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by Anonymousreply 59December 6, 2024 5:26 AM

CEO shooting song

The guy's good.

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by Anonymousreply 60December 6, 2024 6:50 AM

R10 I’ll just politely disagree. Some people absolutely should be shot dead. Whether that applies to this guy, well…probably but I haven’t spent a ton of time fixated on insurance CEOs.

But we’ve all come across certain people. The kinds with no redeeming qualities who do incalculable damage to others in their existence. Death by gunfire is actually far too lenient of a sentence for some people in this world. They deserve far more agonizing pain and suffering than the relative swiftness a gunshot wound provides.

I’ve seen and encountered institutional corruption and abuse of power in my own professional life, so that has colored my take on these things. Kill them, let them die, I say. Along with their parasitic families too. The rest of us will be better off for it, and nothing of any actual value will have been lost.

by Anonymousreply 61December 6, 2024 7:09 AM

Good riddance

by Anonymousreply 62December 6, 2024 8:18 AM

Health insurance companies have started removing images of their leadership teams from their websites following the assassination of UnitedHealthcare CEO Brian Thompson.

by Anonymousreply 63December 6, 2024 8:20 AM

“I know what we’ll do, we’ll put our management in hiding….”

by Anonymousreply 64December 6, 2024 8:37 AM

The internet archive is a beautiful thing my lovelies….

by Anonymousreply 65December 6, 2024 8:37 AM

Two centuries ago, Napoleon was supposed to have said, "without the power of religion over the lives of the poor, they would rise up, kill the rich and take their wealth and their lands".

When income and wealth inequality have reached the preposterous levels they have now, and the naked greed of the billionaire class has been laid bare time and time again, some pushback is almost inevitable. In times past, the US military and various national guards were utilized to protect corporate interests and I'm sure that will happen again. In spite of that, unionization did happen, and during the depression, the government actually started to tax the wealthiest at a level commensurate with their share of the national pie. But those gains have been erased in the past 50 years (thanks, Reagan) and I think the people are getting restless

by Anonymousreply 66December 6, 2024 9:28 AM

Since Nov. 5th, I really don't give a shit about most people, it bothers me that I feel this way, but, I don't think it's entirely my fault.

by Anonymousreply 67December 6, 2024 9:37 AM

I have no sympathy for the murdered exec. Next.

by Anonymousreply 68December 6, 2024 10:04 AM

[quote] Digusting virtue signaling idiots.

The only thing we're signaling is our disgust for corporate greed, and the evil people fueling it.

We're certainly not virtuous, but we are signaling that these assholes had better watch their backs, because fed up Americans are COMING FOR THEM!

We've had sufficient.

[quote] Hey, here's an idea. How about working to get senators and congressman into office who actually want to change the healthcare system instead of cheering for murder.

Talk about fucking VIRTUE SIGNALING, you goddamned hypocrite!

And on top of that, you're living in fantasy land.

In case you didn't notice, the American people have voted a MAJORITY OF REPUBLICANS into the US House of Representatives and the US Senate, not to mention electing a Republican President.

These are Representatives and Senators who DO NOT want to change the healthcare system, and in fact the want to ELIMINATE the only healthcare safety net that Americans have in place right now (courtesy of Democrats).

The AMERICAN PEOPLE voted for Republican rule ACROSS THE BOARD.

And you're ridiculously hoping that just by sheer will power, we can put Democrats back in charge of the House, Senate, and Presidency - which is what it will take to get any kind of healthcare reform.

I'm sorry to say this, but you're a complete idiot and you are hoping for something that will never happen.

So until there is a solution, these types of hits on healthcare executives will keep happening.

Whether you like it or not.

by Anonymousreply 69December 6, 2024 10:06 AM

Who gives a shit? The world's a jungle. Try to survive. Kisses!

by Anonymousreply 70December 6, 2024 10:07 AM

[quote]I didn't want him to die. Just to be hospitalized and treated the exact same way all those who have that health insurance would be..

I understand the sentiment but that would have never happened R9. He would have been treated specially with the highest quality medical care and attention which isn't available to normal people.

by Anonymousreply 71December 6, 2024 10:08 AM

[quote]consider how many thousands of insurance customers get bogus denials of coverage each year

CNN:

"The majority of insured US adults had at least one issue, including denial of claims, with their health insurance in the span of a year, according to a survey released in June 2023 by KFF, a nonprofit health policy research group.

Roughly a quarter of consumers whose claims insurance companies denied experienced significant delays in getting medical care or treatment, and about the same share were unable to receive care."

by Anonymousreply 72December 6, 2024 12:46 PM

What r17 said

by Anonymousreply 73December 6, 2024 1:01 PM

R10 except for the poor criminal thugs right? and those nasty sorts of people? i think he should be dragged to a guillotine and done way worse in front of a cheering crowd. there's nothing ugly about justice bootlicker.

by Anonymousreply 74December 6, 2024 1:22 PM

Heartwarming- the murder of a CEO unites the country

by Anonymousreply 75December 6, 2024 1:23 PM

R55 studies on the authoritarian mind show that they find the concept of someone getting something positive that they didn't 'deserve' to be infuriating/uncomfortable in the extreme. like their brain reacts to being told that somebody lazy was given a free meal as if they were told hey i just murdered your entire family.

by Anonymousreply 76December 6, 2024 1:23 PM

R50: have you investigated Medigap? Go to the Medicare.gov website.

by Anonymousreply 77December 6, 2024 1:38 PM

^^ and you can sign up AT ANY TIME. None of this enrollment period CRAP.

Seriously, who thought up this bs that you can only buy insurance in certain months? It’s inhumane.

by Anonymousreply 78December 6, 2024 1:40 PM

And yet, Republicans (mostly) have resisted with all of their might any attempts to establish universal health care in this country. Their idiocy and hypocrisy knows no bounds.

by Anonymousreply 79December 6, 2024 1:47 PM

"Really [R10]?

Some people deserve killing"

R11, could that person be you in some people's view. Probably so.

by Anonymousreply 80December 6, 2024 1:49 PM

I work in health care and deal directly with the C-suite of most major health care and insurance companies. The chief medical officer of one of these companies called me recently to tell me he was stepping down from his position. He had just received his bonus, which was much more than he expected. He said the extra bonus was because the company had quadrupled its # of prior authorization denials in the previous year, generating billions in revenue.

Physicians increasingly must ask for prior authorization from an insure to prescribe medication or a treatment. And, increasingly, insures are merrily rejecting those requests, resulting in patients not getting treatment. It's criminal.

The chief medical officer quit the day he learned why he got the bonus. His hands aren't clean in any of this, of course. He was involved in creating medical rationale for denials, but had an attack of conscience. He's returned to clinical practice.

As someone who has deep professional insight into the payer industry, I can assure you it's just as evil as you'd imagine.

by Anonymousreply 81December 6, 2024 1:57 PM

Income inequality is inevitably destabilizing. Did the US oligarchs think they were immune? The populist sentiments heat up and rumble beneath the surface, popping up long with eruptions such as a Occupy Wallstreet here, Black Live Matter there.

It's a particularly bad time for Ramaswamy and Musk to become the public figureheads of bringing corporate greed to federal service The other hypereligious CHristofascists are salivating at bring and end to moral failings such as abortion, cannabis, poronography, onlyfans, Tik-Tok, are just piling fuel on the fire.

We need a political party with the wisdom and sense to grab and focus these populist angers om a constructive way.

by Anonymousreply 82December 6, 2024 2:17 PM

[quote]One image that made the rounds online was a chart from the personal finance website ValuePenguin, which found that UnitedHealthcare denies 32 percent of all in-network claims relating to individual health insurance plans — twice the industry average.

As someone who's employer just switched from Blue Cross to UHC this year, I am very perturbed by this news.

by Anonymousreply 83December 6, 2024 2:45 PM

R80 is a white women.

White women’s self righteous virtue signaling is unmistakable. Her rancid pussy is exploding with the thought of how morally superior she is.

by Anonymousreply 84December 6, 2024 4:20 PM

[quote] And yet, Republicans (mostly) have resisted with all of their might any attempts to establish universal health care in this country.

They don't just resist it.

They are now going to be actively working to ABOLISH the ACA, which is the closest thing this country has to universal health care.

Why do they want to do this?

To put MORE MONEY into the pockets of corporations, insurers, and Big Pharma.

I say let them.

But there will be more blood shed.

Corporate greed MUST STOP!

by Anonymousreply 85December 6, 2024 4:38 PM

As a life long-born at Kaiser member I don’t understand people being rejected by health care. Is it because Kaiser is not in every state so choices are limited? Didn’t Obama care stop HMO’S from pre-existing illness rejection? I know Kaiser is in no way the best care and expensive for individuals but doesn’t Obama care help lower income folks? Obviously I’m missing something.

by Anonymousreply 86December 6, 2024 4:49 PM

"We need a political party with the wisdom and sense to grab and focus these populist angers om a constructive way."

The Republican party already did this, when they made Donald Trump out to be some anti-establishment populist, a billionaire Ivy League educated, golf club owning anti-establishment populist. Unfortunately, there are 80 million dumb ass Americans gullible enough to believe it and vote for this faux populist.

by Anonymousreply 87December 6, 2024 4:56 PM

I read an NYT article about the “ugly hate” directed at the healthcare industry resultant from this attack. I added the shaming tone of this article to the list of cons against the Times.

My favorite part:

[quote] “Thoughts and deductibles to the family,” read one comment underneath a video of the shooting posted online by CNN. “Unfortunately my condolences are out-of-network.”

by Anonymousreply 88December 6, 2024 6:27 PM

That's beautiful, R88!!!

I love the seething contempt dripping from that comment.

Fuck this asshole.

Fuck the entire healthcare industry.

by Anonymousreply 89December 6, 2024 6:31 PM

I hope this overt public loathing and shaming continues for at least another month. It needs to seep in to their bones how reviled they are and how fucking pissed the rest of us are.

It probably won’t change anything, but it will certainly make them a little more wary and anxious. Good. Let all of that greed be offset by fear, anxiety and dread.

by Anonymousreply 90December 6, 2024 7:43 PM

R90 - you would think that the healthcare execs needed security detail for years - that would be a sign they're not doing something right. But they don't care - they want to feel like rock stars with their security.

We should know all the top execs names and faces and shame them whenever they are out and about in society.

They will complain for sure - but that's all we got. Nothing else has been effective.

by Anonymousreply 91December 6, 2024 7:47 PM

Just a personal antidote today.

My primary care physician changed employers and sent everyone a list of names of doctors in her old office who were taking new patients. So I had to change my PCP.

It took me talking to three different people AND I had to make an appointment IN MAY in order to get officially changed to a new primary care doctor.

For those of you outside the US, your primary care doctor has to be on “the list” of doctors your insurance will accept. Your PCP (primary care physician) can only admit you to certain “in network” hospitals where they have that right.

You cannot just go about without a PCP or the insurance won’t cover your visits. The doctor you end up seeing may not be “in network”.

Shit like this bullshit makes the rest of cheer this shooter. These goddamned pricks never have to suffer the same shit they foist on us.

by Anonymousreply 92December 6, 2024 9:27 PM

[quote] Just a personal antidote today.

Anecdote.

by Anonymousreply 93December 6, 2024 9:42 PM

Any health insurance executive who is responsible for denying patient care needs to be doxxed with their picture and their home address and travel schedule for all to see

by Anonymousreply 94December 6, 2024 9:46 PM

[auote]We need a political party with the wisdom and sense to grab and focus these populist angers om a constructive way.

Well, “No Labels” took a stab at it this year, r82 but the DNC drove a stake right into its hopeful little heart.

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by Anonymousreply 95December 6, 2024 9:46 PM

No Labels is a closet dump supporting organization, r95.

When it didn’t get traction, those people moved to brain worm Bobby.

by Anonymousreply 96December 6, 2024 10:06 PM

I wonder how other well k own execs , he who shall remain unnamed feel about this news

by Anonymousreply 97December 6, 2024 10:24 PM

What r42 said

by Anonymousreply 98December 6, 2024 10:28 PM

I'll tell you one thing - ain't a single healthcare exec or UHC rep going to that funeral.

by Anonymousreply 99December 6, 2024 11:21 PM

Gee, wonder where all the hostility comes from

A doctor’s letter to United Healthcare for denying nausea meds for a child on chemo.

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by Anonymousreply 100December 7, 2024 1:11 AM

BUT CEOs MUST BE ACCOUNTABLE TO THE BOARD AND SHAREHOLDERS!!!!!

by Anonymousreply 101December 7, 2024 1:15 AM

That letter at R100 is fabulous, but I'm guessing it's a fake, as I can't imagine any real doctor writing a letter like that to an insurance company, no matter how well deserved.

by Anonymousreply 102December 7, 2024 4:33 AM

Dear Mrs. Black:

On seven prior occasions this company has denied your claim in writing. We now deny it for the eighth and final time. You must be stupid, stupid stupid, stupid!

Sincerely Evert Lufkin, Vice President, Claims.

by Anonymousreply 103December 7, 2024 4:49 AM

The healthcare insurance industry in the U.S. is abominable but I am truly horrified that people seem so cavalier about this assassination. The problem with healthcare is OURS because we don't demand more from our elected representatives in government. Mr. Thompson was not responsible for or emblematic of the failure of our healthcare system. He was a nauseatingly high-paid cog in a huge machine that can be easily replaced. Dancing on his grave is disgraceful and pointless.

by Anonymousreply 104December 7, 2024 5:09 AM

[quote] Mr. Thompson was not responsible for or emblematic of the failure of our healthcare system. He was a nauseatingly high-paid cog in a huge machine that can be easily replaced. Dancing on his grave is disgraceful and pointless.

Well he certainly didn't help with instituting the policy of using AI to deny benefits.

Make no mistake, he WAS a part of the problem, and he DESERVED what he got.

by Anonymousreply 105December 7, 2024 5:11 AM

R104 But Harry and Louise didn't want HillaryCare!

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by Anonymousreply 106December 7, 2024 5:13 AM

[quote] The healthcare insurance industry in the U.S. is abominable but I am truly horrified that people seem so cavalier about this assassination. The problem with healthcare is OURS because we don't demand more from our elected representatives in government.

If you're suggesting that I turn my cavalier attitude about assassinations from healthcare CEOs towards eliminating certain elected officials in the House and Senate, then I'm in for that. And I think there's at least 75-90 million other Americans that would agree with me.

Where do you suggest we start?

by Anonymousreply 107December 7, 2024 6:00 AM

Ken Klippenstein @kenklippenstein

United CEO Andrew Witty gave an address to the company today (video leaked to me). Some highlights:

- "we guard against the pressures that exist for unsafe care or for unnecessary care."

- "There are very few people in the history of the US healthcare industry who had a bigger positive effect on American healthcare than Brian [Thompson]."

- "the health system needs a company like United Health Group, and it needs people like Brian within it."

Video below - he has been knighted; enjoy.

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by Anonymousreply 108December 7, 2024 6:04 AM

I guess Klippenstein will be next on the list...

by Anonymousreply 109December 7, 2024 7:10 AM

Why take your name and face off of your company's website?

If you aren't doing anything heinous or wrong why should you hide?

I wonder if there are going to be any copycat assassinations?

by Anonymousreply 110December 7, 2024 7:21 AM

Enjoy your bunkers, medical insurance execs!

by Anonymousreply 111December 7, 2024 7:38 AM

[quote]Mr. Thompson was not responsible for or emblematic of the failure of our healthcare system.

[quote]"There are very few people in the history of the US healthcare industry who had a bigger positive effect on American healthcare than Brian [Thompson]."

Thompson is now unstoppably emblematic. The pushback praise in the second quote above will only fuel more flames in the forest fire of populist rage against the system. No one will ever forget seeing film of the murder, which will provoke vehement debate, only just now beginning in its new heightened iteration.

by Anonymousreply 112December 7, 2024 9:19 AM

[quote] No one will ever forget seeing film of the murder

There was film of the murder?

Where?

I guess I missed it.

by Anonymousreply 113December 7, 2024 9:22 AM

Google it, you lazy whore ^

by Anonymousreply 114December 7, 2024 9:51 AM

Sad. I am sure this man was somebody’s husband or father. And certainly somebody’s brother, child, friend. As if this one man is guilty of for profit healthcare. NO. We are all guilty because we don’t demand better and make it as important to voting issues as the fucking economy.

by Anonymousreply 115December 7, 2024 9:57 AM

R82 this is why they need fascism now. they realize they can not continue to lie to the working class and rob them under the guise of democracy. people will eventually vote in an unacceptable candidate like bernie sanders or start to get violent. so you have to both shut down the democratic process and prepare domestic forces to violently suppress protest activity. they view us as less than human, merely beasts who must be tamed to work the field like an ox.

by Anonymousreply 116December 7, 2024 12:38 PM

R116, more than half the country think musk is some great financial expert. He made a joke out of Tesla. They'll just lie. The media will help them push that lie too by allowing other million and billionaires go on the news channels and just tell lie after lie after lie.

by Anonymousreply 117December 7, 2024 1:36 PM

[quote]Sad. I am sure this man was somebody’s husband or father. And certainly somebody’s brother, child, friend. As if this one man is guilty of for profit healthcare.

Of course, he was not singularly responsible for the horrific health care system, but he was emblematic of it. I'm sure the schadenfreude over this murder is not about happiness over the death of an individual who is also a husband, a father, etc., but about people strongly sympathizing with someone else taking action to express their hatred of the health care system.

by Anonymousreply 118December 7, 2024 1:45 PM

[quote] Where do you suggest we start?

R107, I think you know where I'd suggest you start...and this time don't miss.

by Anonymousreply 119December 7, 2024 2:29 PM

"As if this one man is guilty of for profit healthcare." - he is one of many - BUT UHC had the highest number of complaints of any healthcare system AND implemented AI with a 90% error rate to deny claims.

I'm getting really tired of hearing all of these bleeding hearts over 'he was someone's FATHER and SON' - so are we ALL! His system denied (and equally bad, delayed) medical care to tens of thousands of people either directly or indirectly causing or hastening people's deaths.

It's not just the denial of service. It's the added stress and appeal and delay process that people go through in an already stressful time.

They all know this and glee in their corporate profits and bonuses. NOBODY had a gun to Thompson's head saying he had to do these policies or even take this job - he kept doing it because of his love of money.

Shove your sympathy for this man up your ass and get a backbone. It doesn't make you look compassionate and more moral - it makes you look like a fucking fool. These people are playing with people's lives on a daily basis with ZERO conscience or thought of how that impacts patients and their families' lives.

This is uniting both the left and the right. And don't say - violence is never the answer. Sometimes, YES IT IS. The system is rigged - Republicans have done NOTHING to help it but try and cut away at any policies that will help. The insurance companies have had decades to course-correct - none of them have done it.

Don't blame US for the situation - that's the biggest load of shit and it's insulting as well.

by Anonymousreply 120December 7, 2024 2:53 PM

The killer may want this garbled narrative

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by Anonymousreply 121December 7, 2024 2:59 PM

[quote]This is uniting both the left and the right. And don't say - violence is never the answer. Sometimes, YES IT IS. The system is rigged - Republicans have done NOTHING to help it but try and cut away at any policies that will help.

I agree with much of what you wrote, R120, but isn't there a huge contradiction in what I quoted above?

by Anonymousreply 122December 7, 2024 3:07 PM

When people argue what's "right" and "wrong," they often forget that two or more truths can exist simultaneously. In this case, one can decry the vigilante murder of this insurance company bigwig under the argument that vigilante killings are still wrong, while ALSO feeling little or no sympathy for this guy because, apparently, he was an evil, selfish POS whose actions caused tremendous stress, suffering, and perhaps even death for many others.

by Anonymousreply 123December 7, 2024 3:12 PM

R122 - contradiction? The left and right among the public are united about their apathy over his death - not politicians. And that's the problem.

Fucking all the media have been saying 'oh this is terrible' - because UHC buys TV and print ads! So out of touch.

by Anonymousreply 124December 7, 2024 3:38 PM

Precisely, r123. I honestly can't muster one iota of sympathy. Is violence the answer? Very rarely, but it's always a measure of desperation that drives otherwise peaceful people to extremity. There’s enough historical evidence to back that up and that, on occasion, it's worked. It's a Ceaușescu type of situation.

by Anonymousreply 125December 7, 2024 3:38 PM

R123 - there is no 'perhaps' - his actions did cause people to die.

There is no data on deaths from denied care because of course they won't want that tabulated. But we do know 30-45,000 people die each year from not having health insurance.

People had insurance and paid into it for years thinking that it would cover things - and then it doesn't. It's like Lucy pulling the ball away from Charlie Brown.

And to think that Anthem wanted to not pay for anesthesia over a certain time allotment per operation - THAT IS EVIL BEHAVIOR FOR PROFIT ONLY.

by Anonymousreply 126December 7, 2024 5:23 PM

The mainstream media can’t sane wash the fact most people don’t care, and see his demise as a result of his leadership role at the company.

by Anonymousreply 127December 7, 2024 6:15 PM

I hate to admit it, but it's going to take at least a few more like this to really make it stick.

by Anonymousreply 128December 7, 2024 7:08 PM

Here at UnitedHealthcare, we understand just how valuable your health is. It’s why we’re in the business of health care. Why nearly 49.5 million Americans count on us for their coverage. And why we’re eighth on the Fortune 500.

Yet despite revenues reaching $1.39 trillion in 2023, poll after poll shows that Americans are unhappy with our services as an industry writ large and would much prefer the government do our job. In light of recent events, we’ve done some soul-searching as to where we went wrong. Was it because our skilled nursing home denial rate increased ninefold between 2019 and 2022? Or that we used an AI model with a 90 percent error rate to deny patients the care their physicians deemed necessary? Perhaps it had to do something with the fact that denying all this life-saving coverage led to us making $22 billion in profits?

Who can say? But as a customer-centered business, your opinion is important to us. It’s clear that if we are to earn back your trust—and our safety—we must do better. We must become what you want us to be. This is why we are proud to announce that UnitedHealthcare is rebranding as Medicare For All.

For far too long, American health care has been subject to the whims of a handful of for-profit private corporations, acting more like feudal Europe than a modern health care system. It’s time we have a national health insurance system subject to the whims of a single for-profit private megacorporation—namely, us.

Can you believe in this day and age that over thirty-one million Americans live without health insurance and that medical bills are the number one reason for bankruptcies nationwide? We can.

We believe, like you, that health care is a human right. Every man, woman, and child in America should have the privilege of enrolling in our private, for-profit health insurance plans. In fact, our lobbyists will guarantee it.

The United States spends significantly more national GDP on health care per person than any other major country, yet has among the worst outcomes among high-income nations. This is a national scandal—especially since only some of that money goes to us. When we are the only healthcare system in town, we promise to get every dime.

No more will your life-saving care require depleting your life savings in the name of profit. We will now deplete them in the name of socialized medicine.

The solution is clear: a single-payer system where you, the patient, pay us, the sole health insurance company in the United States, for the potential to receive medical care. Anything less would be socialism. Or is it capitalism? Sorry, we’re still getting used to this.

Our revolutionary rebrand is more than a corporate maneuver to exploit a popular policy while papering over our perception as parasitic middlemen who play doctor while forcing actual doctors to deny essential care. It’s also going to make us rich.

To our customers and caregivers, we promise to provide the same lack of diligence and care that you have come to expect from us, but now in the guise of the very thing that you actually like.

And to our shareholders, enjoy the dividends.

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by Anonymousreply 129December 7, 2024 7:23 PM

[quote] I hate to admit it, but it's going to take at least a few more like this to really make it stick.

YES.

MOAR!

MOAR!!

by Anonymousreply 130December 7, 2024 8:57 PM

R129, that's brilliant. And true.

by Anonymousreply 131December 7, 2024 11:07 PM

[quote] The backpack recovered by the NYPD that allegedly belonged to the suspect wanted in the shooting of UnitedHealthcare CEO Brian Thompson, only had two items inside: a Tommy Hilfiger jacket and Monopoly money, sources with knowledge of the ongoing investigation told ABC News Saturday.

Tee hee.

He should have tossed the fake money on the CEO, after the shooting.

Here's your payment, motherfucker!

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by Anonymousreply 132December 8, 2024 2:49 AM

I'm sure it contained more, they're just not telling us right now

by Anonymousreply 133December 8, 2024 3:36 AM

R128 is correct.

by Anonymousreply 134December 8, 2024 3:39 AM

[quote] ‘My empathy is out of network’: Internet reacts to health exec’s killing with hate

The killing of health insurance executive Brian Thompson has unleashed a flurry of rage and frustration from social media users over denials of their medical claims, a public display of Americans’ pent-up anger at the nation’s complex health insurance industry. The CNN This Morning panel discusses.

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by Anonymousreply 135December 8, 2024 3:52 AM

R120 Fuck off bitch. Anarchy is never the answer. Yall gon learn though under the Trump administration when you see it play out on a daily basis. If he had any balls, he wouldn’t have worn a mask and then ran. Own it. Own your prison sentence and the fact that you did what you felt needed to be done.

by Anonymousreply 136December 8, 2024 3:54 AM

^^Just OD already. We're all so sick of your shit.

by Anonymousreply 137December 8, 2024 3:57 AM

Can’t wait for the next CEO to die

by Anonymousreply 138December 8, 2024 4:22 AM

Just look at the comments under this news story.

Now people are pissed that so much money and effort is being put into catching Thompson's killer:

[quote] @letsgoracing4849

[quote] Tax payers should NOT be footing this bill when they wouldn’t put this kind of effort into the shooting of the average person.

[quote] @AshtonnnM

[quote] In my state there's a guy who was murdered and burned in a car. Cops never found the killer nor are they still looking. Keep that same energy "all citizens are equal", right?

[quote] @catmandude2357

[quote] 744 shootings in NYC this year so far. How much you wanna bet the other 743 didn't get this much scrutiny put together? Those victims were poor though.

[quote] @PhdBmx

[quote] It's crazy all the resources NYPD has all of a sudden to solve crime 😭 if it was a Walmart employee than it's an unsolved case. With ZERO rewards for information.

[quote] @truthful.ly444

[quote] Yall already caught the killer. His name is: Brian Thompson.

[quote] @BeatlesLover39

[quote] I was worried for a second, I thought they caught him 😅

There is absolutely NO sympathy for this CEO guy.

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by Anonymousreply 139December 8, 2024 9:25 AM

You know what Thomas Jefferson would say:

[bold]The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants. It is it’s natural manure.[/bold]

by Anonymousreply 140December 8, 2024 12:49 PM

This is kind of as watershed moment, and it does not bode well for Trumpy and his band of billionaires. This is finally uniting the right and the left over the haves and have nots.

by Anonymousreply 141December 8, 2024 1:15 PM

Why does anyone think members of "the right" be happy about this killing when they are diametrically opposed to universal health care and also they support Trump, who is basically the same kind of utterly selfish, incredibly rich person as the deceased but far worse? Can someone please explain that to me?

by Anonymousreply 142December 8, 2024 1:58 PM

Trump’s supporters don’t support him for his policies, they simply support him because of his swagger and braggadocio

by Anonymousreply 143December 8, 2024 2:11 PM

ffs everybody has been denied necessary care by their medical insurance company r142. That’s why.

by Anonymousreply 144December 8, 2024 2:35 PM

Yeah R142 - I think you're confusing right wing Republican politicians with their base. This is an issue EVERY American is upset about - similar to inflation and cost of living squeezes. It's part of the same thing.

Our quality of life has been on the downturn for decades for most middle and lower class people while the rich get richer. It's been a sharp decline the past 10 years with housing and everything else.

It's all connected - immigration, inflation, health insurance. I just wish Dems would see that and create a platform for it - except they seem to always balance out and make sure the overlords don't get too upset.

by Anonymousreply 145December 8, 2024 4:02 PM

Oh - and I think it's fucking BRILLIANT his knapsack was filled with monopoly boardgame money.

He's fucking with them in such a meaningful way.

This guy is a fucking hero - I want to see a musical or movie about this!

by Anonymousreply 146December 8, 2024 4:04 PM

The celebration of this killing is yet another sign of what a degenerate and moronic nation we have become. It sounds as if the man may have engaged in illegal behavior, but 1) he hasn’t been tried and 2) none of the crimes warrants a death penalty. The man had young children as well.

What is tte noble social cause these high minded bloodhounds think they are advancing? Are they angry insurance is a for-profit business? Then, we should set up a firing squad for the American people who have consistently voted against any form of public insurance. (And, of course, it’s infantile to believe a public system would place no restrictions in coverage.)

Do they think healthcare should be purely a charitable endeavour? Then, I recommend they shoot themselves unless they have provided charity to people needing healthcare.

Are they angry that they are forced to buy insurance from this particular company? Then , they should get angry at their employer who chose this particular insurance company. Do they buy insurance privately from this company? Again, they should shoot them selves.

Since healthcare is not a public or charitable undertaking in the US, what do they hope to accomplish by shooting insurance executive? They will then have no insurance and no health coverage at all if it becomes too deadly to run an insurance company.

And, of course, the same people salivating over a murder, would be screaming and crying if insurance premiums went through the roof if there were no restrictions on coverage.

Yes, the insurance company earns profits, like any other company. The volume of those profits are such they , even if they were reduced to zero, the increased coverage achieved would be minimal.

by Anonymousreply 147December 8, 2024 4:33 PM

ZZZZZZ ^

by Anonymousreply 148December 8, 2024 4:43 PM

Oh shut it R147 - nobody wants to hear your corporate bullshit spin on this.

You're willfully ignoring the rest of the comments and their policies.

Go fuck off - you're not convincing anyone.

by Anonymousreply 149December 8, 2024 4:43 PM

Do you have any reason to find what I say is incorrect.? Or you thought posing as a angry moron was more effective?

by Anonymousreply 150December 8, 2024 4:46 PM

[quote]Are they angry that they are forced to buy insurance from this particular company? Then , they should get angry at their employer who chose this particular insurance company.

And do what? Complain? That'll get them nowhere. Or possibly fired.

PS all insurance companies are the same.

by Anonymousreply 151December 8, 2024 4:57 PM

[quote] And do what? Complain? That'll get them nowhere. Or possibly fired. PS all insurance companies are the same.

Ummm that is exactly the point I was making.

by Anonymousreply 152December 8, 2024 4:59 PM

R147 = scared overpaid, pillaging CEO worried about getting the same “end of year bonus”.

by Anonymousreply 153December 8, 2024 5:01 PM

R152. That is brilliant! Your are an intelligent and wonderful human being!! How do you come up with these deep thoughts???

by Anonymousreply 154December 8, 2024 5:05 PM

R150 - I'm not engaging with you. You've taken the position that's it just another business that deserves to be profitable.

Meanwhile ignoring the fact that UHC has 3x the amount of complaints over coverage denial AND instituted an AI with a 90% error rate to deny coverage to people who have paid into it.

The CEO was on his way to boast about their $343 BILLION profit that year - that's after the shady accounting, hiding other extravagant spending.

Seriously - go all the way and fuck off. This isn't a software business - their policies are to deny and delay treatment for people who need it.

You're a really sick person if you can't understand that the rest of us - who have wanted some sort to change but it has been blocked time and again - are gleeful over this - ON BOTH SIDES of the political spectrum.

You think you sound smart - but you're not - and you may just be that dumb LIbertarian poster who comes on here to espouse your bullshit and engage in discussions.

by Anonymousreply 155December 8, 2024 5:16 PM

So, Americans are so upset about the state of health insurance in the United States that less than a little over a month ago they voted for the guy who is 100% guaranteed to make the situation even worse than it already is? Is that the uptake here?

The billionaire fake populist and his dirtballs billionaire henchmen like Elmo and Icky Ramaswarmy are going to ensure Americans get good health care? Really????

by Anonymousreply 156December 8, 2024 5:17 PM

We could spend a trillion dollars in Iraq and Afghanistan but we can't have universal health care in this country. It's so fucked up.

by Anonymousreply 157December 8, 2024 5:20 PM

The CEO nor any of his people would give a second thought if someone like me was sick or killed and I feel the same way about them.

by Anonymousreply 158December 8, 2024 5:25 PM

R158 - oh he DOES care to get your premiums and provide you healthcare while it's most profitable for him. And he made decisions to make people suffer more than they need to - either with delays or with financial bankruptcy - or to die in many, many cases.

US healthcare organizations are committing a slow genocide on the middle and working class of the country.

by Anonymousreply 159December 8, 2024 5:28 PM

[quote] I'm not engaging with you. You've taken the position that's it just another business that deserves to be profitable.

I don’t claim lim to be particularly smart. You are just particularly stupid. Look at the passage i quoted to see how desperately stupid you are. First , I never said healthcare should be run as a for profit business. I clearly stated that was what the American people decided. You have no idea whether I support a public option.

Second, stupid as you are, I would assume you would realize that there are only three option 1) public provision, 2) charitable provision, and 3) private for-profit provision.

I hope that by dwelling on how stupid you are that I haven’t detracted from how loathsome you are. Is there any possibly you could turn your anger and destructiveness towards yourself?

by Anonymousreply 160December 8, 2024 5:31 PM

The idiots who voted for the traitor are brainwashed and brain dead.

The real cognitive dissonance will set in when they’re faced with the consequences of their vote.

And it won’t be pretty.

by Anonymousreply 161December 8, 2024 5:37 PM

CEO’s are not the same-In 2019 CEO of Kaiser NorCal died in his sleep.He was much loved by Kaiser executives and members. He is still missed today. No one can please everyone but this person was unique with unique approaches because he started from the bottom.I discovered later I went to school with this man-great guy.

by Anonymousreply 162December 8, 2024 5:39 PM

R160 - you're just a douche. Now you want to spin it into a policy discussion when your first post was about how people should shoot themselves and defending the status quo healthcare system.

You're pivoting to other topics because all you want to do is call people stupid - go somewhere else. You add nothing to the conversation - telling people to shoot themselves, then calling people morons, and other things.

No one here thinks you're smart or convincing - now shoo along and go fix yourself another pitcher of Mai-Tai's to shake off your hangover.

by Anonymousreply 163December 8, 2024 5:42 PM

r160 you sound like a real cunt.

by Anonymousreply 164December 8, 2024 5:49 PM

R164. Yes, I’m the hind of cunt who calls out morons who lust after killing people.

You don’t seem to have much social value. Should I be allowed to kill you.

by Anonymousreply 165December 8, 2024 5:52 PM

R147 The American public has been voting against its best interests for as long as I can remember. But your argument that we only have ourselves to blame for the rapacious greed of corporations, or our employer's "choice' of insurance, or deregulation, or not voting single payer, or the rise of obscene inequality, or voting Trump is specious. The forces at play here are massive, entrenched, and often opaque.

There's a powerful point made in the film Cinderella Man by the boxer Jim Braddock who grew up in dire poverty and is being urged to quit. "Let me take my punches in the ring, At least I know who's hitting me."

by Anonymousreply 166December 8, 2024 5:54 PM

R153 NAILED IT!

Thank you for telling off the Corporate Health Insurance CEO at R147.

He'll soon get HIS too!

by Anonymousreply 167December 8, 2024 6:09 PM

I doubt R147 is a CEO but he's surely someone with money and from the investor 'class', even if he doesn't have shares in United Health which of course plunged.

by Anonymousreply 168December 8, 2024 6:19 PM

The problem with medical care in the US is that is has been commoditized from top to bottom.

You walk into the average hospital. You see 600 workers there. Most likely only 200 of these workers are employed by the hospital. The rest, from emergency room personnel, housekeeping, maintenance, dietary department, radiology, medical records, anesthesiology, OR personnel, are all employed by separate for profit companies with their massive, bloated corporate overheads that must be fed constantly and stockholders who must be satisfied.

In addition, most PCPs and specialists are now employed by large, for profit organizations which, again, must have their bloated corporate overhead and stockholders fed constantly. My PCP sold his practice last summer. Immediately, I was kicked out of his practice because I didn't have the right insurance.

As long as so many conflicting corporate bureaucracies at work in the US medical system, it will never be beneficial to patients. The system is rigged in favor of corporate CEOs.

by Anonymousreply 169December 8, 2024 6:51 PM

R162, I was part of a company that bought another company based in CA. Although the company offered these new employees health care, they refused and purchased Kaiser on their own. Kaiser is (or was) known for proving excellent service. In fact aren’t they the company with the fewest denials in the industry?

United is the worst in the industry and this guy was the head. Although I don’t condone using violence, it’s totally understandable that people would have no sympathy. If it were perhaps another CEO (can’t think of any benevolent ones), the reaction would be be different, but this guy was literally the worst of a terrible system.

by Anonymousreply 170December 8, 2024 7:17 PM

R170 - people are saying the CEO of CostCo who gets pissed off and enraged anytime they say they need to increase the $1.50 price for a hotdog and soda - that CEO has nothing to worry about.

by Anonymousreply 171December 8, 2024 7:23 PM

The CEOs of Airlines....

I wouldn't shed a tear if they dropped dead tomorrow

by Anonymousreply 172December 8, 2024 7:57 PM

It's true that law enforcement is wasting so much money on this investigation for a rich guy.

If it were anyone else in NYC, this would have been considered a "random shooting," and forgotten about.

But because it's some rich corporate CUNT, this is front page news every single fucking day, and millions of dollars of manpower and financial resources are being spent to search for his killer.

FUCKING CORPORATE AMERICA CUNTS AND POLITICIANS take care of their own!

by Anonymousreply 173December 8, 2024 7:58 PM

R173 - well the history of American police enforcement started with slave catching patrols. And policing really started as a way to keep the working class in line in late 19th century industrial cities.

We like to think it's for everyone - and it is - but really it's to keep 'law and order' for criminals to keep criming at the top.

by Anonymousreply 174December 8, 2024 8:19 PM

Wealth inequality = rebellion. As immutable as E=MC2.

by Anonymousreply 175December 8, 2024 11:30 PM

It had to happen at some stage R175. People can only take so much and then snap.

I hope this acts as a catalyst to discuss the state of healthcare in the US because it's clearly not working for the vast majority of the American population whether they are left or right leaning. The reaction of the public to UnitedHealthcare CEO Thompson's assassination is very telling and something the industry should be listening to.

by Anonymousreply 176December 8, 2024 11:49 PM

How are we going to revolt against the oligarchs? Democrats are still stinging from their attempt to modestly reform healthcare under an explicitly capitalist framework. Not only was it scaled back, but it led to a resurgence of the Republican Party to become stronger. Citizens United protects the rights of oligarchs to spend unlimited funds protecting their dominance. And working people can’t even get it together to the defeat criminal, rapey billionaire class in an election.

by Anonymousreply 177December 9, 2024 12:03 AM

I’m ready to push out my guillotine. Dull blade and all.

Because it should fucking hurt. Nothing quick.

by Anonymousreply 178December 9, 2024 12:05 AM

I hope this goes unsolved for forty years until the shooter is months from death and some intrepid Olivia Benson type finds some overlooked evidence. He deserves to revel in his infamy and get a taste of public gratitude before he dies.

by Anonymousreply 179December 9, 2024 12:16 AM

[quote] How are we going to revolt against the oligarchs?

This is a good start!

by Anonymousreply 180December 9, 2024 4:44 AM

R145 👏

by Anonymousreply 181December 9, 2024 6:27 AM

R147 is speaking like a mature adult. We shall see what this beautiful cowboy’s story is and how he or his family were affected by the healthcare industry. All we know right NOW is that he is a cold blooded assassin. For all we know he could be a fringe right wing Covid conspiracy theorist. The bullets tell us this is something personal so likely having to do with coverage.

by Anonymousreply 182December 9, 2024 6:31 AM

The shooter is a mafuckin chica and one of them real ones. He has nothing to apologize for. Everyting gwarn be iree, sistah.

by Anonymousreply 183December 9, 2024 10:46 AM

Not a female, Teacake/R183 you mafuckin' idiot!

by Anonymousreply 184December 9, 2024 11:48 AM

[quote]I think you're confusing right wing Republican politicians with their base. This is an issue EVERY American is upset about - similar to inflation and cost of living squeezes. It's part of the same thing.

Then please answer this specific question: How can Republicans who hate the health insurance system as it is consistently support politicians who totally reject any concept of universal health care?

[quote]We should set up a firing squad for the American people who have consistently voted against any form of public insurance.

Now, there's an idea....

by Anonymousreply 185December 9, 2024 2:12 PM

R184 I did not make that comment. Check yourself please.

by Anonymousreply 186December 9, 2024 2:16 PM

Kill or be killed. Happy holidays

by Anonymousreply 187December 9, 2024 3:37 PM

AARP constantly pimps out United Healthcare. I turned 65 in September.

by Anonymousreply 188December 10, 2024 3:28 AM

Watch Elizabeth Warren eviscerate red-faced UHC CEO Andrew Witty for his criminal company. Not only are these scumbags being investigated for insider trading, but also for fraud for over billing taxpayer funded Medicare and Medicaid via Medicare Advantage. Billions of dollars essentially stolen through their practice of "upcoding", the scam of pouring through patient files and adding a diagnosis that wasn't there originally, making the patient appear sicker than they actually are. So these crooks make money denying claims AND exaggerating them. Cute, guys, now die in a grease fire.

There is nothing these repulsive specimens won't do to squeeze every last cent out of vulnerable people and taxpayers.

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by Anonymousreply 189December 10, 2024 3:50 AM

Yes these are very bad people R189.

by Anonymousreply 190December 10, 2024 3:58 AM

More comments in news story about this, where there's 100% support behind Mangione even AFTER he was arrested:

[quote] @ustoday-us

[quote] My deepest Condolences to the families that passed away because they were DENIED Healthcare

[quote] @OhAndThisOneTimeAtBandCamp

[quote] …never has my Aunt’s healthcare provider apologized to our family for denying her coverage towards her end that she’d been paying for for over 15 years that she coverage was documented to cover…now, she’s forever sleeping in a coffin.

[quote] @beckyzehms2868

[quote] Why isn’t CNN and the corporate media talking about the thousands and thousands of people dying because of our whole healthcare system 😢

[quote] @Winnston-e4h

[quote] Yes he is right about the healthcare statistics, our country is criminal to not provide healthcare to its citizens.

[quote] @johnroshinsky9946

[quote] Parents owned old folks homes probally saw to many elderly die from denied health care

[quote] @First1ToComment

[quote] Doesn't look like him / can't tell my vision plan got denied 😂

[quote] @MM-es1it

[quote] The suspect is not even charged with the crime yet and the news anchor is asking "have you ever imagined he could've done this?"? And the so-called "friend" is answering as if it's been proven already

[quote] @Ninad-zp2fv

[quote] If violence is never the answer, then why has America started and participated in so many wars?

[quote] @saloninegi147

[quote] My sympathies to all Americans who died or are living in pain because they were denied health care by heartless, callous insurance companies. It's so awful that none of the media are addressing this, because this is the crime, and the insurance companies and this cruel system are the criminals.

[quote] @mariaelda6271

[quote] Here we go... they're now gonna interview every "friend", "neighbor", "classmate" "barber" of this guy.

[quote] @nancychandler3673

[quote] CNN isn't asking the right questions. How pitiful

[quote] @valeriaarevalos3832

[quote] They said his family owned a bunch of nursing homes?… he must have seen all the cruelty from the insurance companies not covering the meds and treatments for their patients. He might have been seen many dying patients there.

[quote] @jergescortina

[quote] She didn’t ask the question she needed to ask…Did you not recognize him from the pictures??

[quote] @alexjottens

[quote] Free Luigi

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