If there’s a silver lining to Trump’s win, it’s that this is likely the end of wokeness

[quote] why the fuck these people want to expose children to drag queens.

Nobody is forcing children to be exposed to drag queens, you fucking moron.

Any type of "drag queen library reading show" that has ever existed was advertised or forewarned beforehand. Those kids were there because [italic]their[/italic] parents allowed them to be there.

You aren’t wrong OP. Still so pissed about his victory though.

I am too R2. I voted for Kamala, and I liked her, but we really do need a reset. A Trump presidency is a HORRIBLE way to do it, but it is what it is.

There has to be a better solution for trans athletes, or create “genderless” sports criteria based on weight class and muscular metrics that would make competition fair. This “fairness” is FAR more important than whether I think you’re a woman or not, that needs to be the driving point of conversation towards change for athletes, not identity politics.

It’s really important minors and the decisions related to minor’s health and welfare be enshrined within a parent or guardian’s legal right and care unless the parent is mentally incompetent. There is no clear way to prosecute abuse, assault or neglect otherwise.

The pro lifers need to find a leader that welcomes modern science offerings so that a woman who does not want to become pregnant is fully covered, prepared and able to avoid the risk at all. While I understand there are abusive and controlling relationships ( I was in one) we so many options in this modern age, it’s shameful and embarrassing that we STILL have unwanted or accidental pregnancies, or gays that are still seroconverting to HIV.

I hate that word. It’s been abused harder than any messy pass around bottom.

[quote]this is likely the end of wokeness

Yes, let us return to a state of willful ignorance so that we can once again be free to malign and discriminate against others based on our preconceived prejudices.

[quote] People just want to return to normalcy.

People want a return to “normalcy” in which they are able to do and say whatever they like but don’t have to give others the same common courtesy.

I don’t want to have to witness people drone on about wounded warriors and thank you for your service yet 1/4 of all military families live in poverty.

I don’t want to hear about people complaining about a book in their child’s school library when or schools are almost as segregated today as before Brown.

I don’t want to be lectured about the infinitesimally small number of trans athletes when the youth of America are fatter and more sedentary than any generation in the history of man.

If normalcy means we can stop focusing on largely made up problems and instead solve the problems this country ignores then absolutely. Give me all the normalcy you can muster, but otherwise fuck that bullshit, I’m standing abnormal.

R6 You know damn well that’s not the modern definition of wokeness, so just stop.

R7 You make some very good points, however these are not issues that wokeness addresses. Wokeness addresses bullshit. Wokeness does not address homeless veterans, it addresses pronouns and hairstyles.

So, what exactly IS the "modern definition of wokeness"?

And isn't calling something the "modern definition of wokeness", a form of wokeness itself?

R10 Blue hair, septum piercing, screaming about white privilege while using BLM donations to buy a mansion….. These things are a far cry from the Sunny Hostin definition of woke as “something that originated in the black community to bring awareness to injustice.” There is no injustice in calling a woman and woman just because she “identifies” as genderless.

R7 has it. The”anti-woke” movement is far more active politically. They are highlighting ineffectual, fringe voices for their own benefit by riling up susceptible voters.

Really, how much has the trans movement affected you? Weigh that against the increases prices and taxes and reduced.quality of life you pay so that billionaires can thrive. Look how rich Thiel, Zuckerberg, and Bezos got from skimming off the top of our purchases and activities.

No drag queens at libraries? Time to dig out Marx.

Wokeness has been cooped by white liberals to mean anything that pertains to their mental illness state. 10 years ago, nobody had a problem defining what a woman is.

The trouble with the word “woke” is it’s an imprecise and nebulous word that probably has a different definition depending on who is using it.

But I also get what you are saying too (assuming this thread isn’t another standard troll farm posting).

Apparently a lot of the algorithms and engagement bait on Threads favors this shit. You can easily find people there in their own left wing echo chambers who are about as insufferable and full of hatred as a lot of right wingers. It’s fashionable among the woke femcels there to be openly bigoted against white men. Their hypocrisy is of the highest order.

I’ve always said, take the far-right Capitol rioter filth and lock em up along with the pathetic, weaseling ultra-left dweebs and let em all fucking kill each other. Nothing of value will be lost.

R12 Tell that to the middle school girl who got her nose broken at a volleyball game because the other team had a trans woman. Tell that to the little girls that are scared to go to their bathrooms at school because the school decided to make them gender neutral bathrooms and boys are kicking girls in their stomachs during break. Tell that to the prison facilities who have reported an increase of sexual assaults to their security staff because of men identifying as women the minute they get arrested. Moron.

The overly SJW stuff went out of fashion ages ago. No one is doing that anymore but white conservatives love to pretend that half the country is signing petitions to rename Twinkies.

I would never admit this out loud in the real world but secretly I’m hoping that there is a wave of violence against trannies in the coming years because I feel like it would be karma. They invaded and stole our community from us gays, turned the public against us, and dragged us down with them.

I'd be interested to visit this woke-world I always hear about, where gays and other minorities are apparently given royal status and the straight white men and women live horribly oppressed lives.

R17 you sound psychotic.

R18 Being dense on purpose

I don’t care much about or pay attention to the latest woke outrage du jour. I’d just be glad to see the end of the constant bitching and moaning about wokeness.

Hate to burst your bubble OP, but now just being openly gay and or married is WOKE!

Normalcy to the people you are talking about only tolerate gays as long as they don't have to see it. No more gays in TV ads, movies, series or anything where straight have to look at two men kissing.

OP is on target! I'm sick of non-consequential people who will never achieve anything in life other than coloring their hair some unnatural color and harassing service workers being the new SJWs.

Somehow it got lost in translation that just because there's freedom of speech, every word that comes out of your mouth no matter how nonsensical has to be respected and agreed upon by everybody. No contrary opinion is acceptable or allowed to be voiced.

The world is imploding, there are many, many threats out there endangering all people not just gay and lesbian, and all the other sexual minorities. ( Notice I did not group them together). Our dying planet really should be a priority. The next pandemic is brewing already.

I'm sorry you were misgendered, I'm sorry that some people stare at you and treat you with disgust and contempt. Your efforts to legislate individual acceptance are comical and you are your own worst enemy due to your lack of self awareness. You are one of the primary reasons we have to endure another Trump administration.

One final point, I'm not sure what the statistics are, however I'm curious about how many quote male to female trans actually complete the process with bottom surgery? I'm thinking it's less than 5%? Go big or go home sister. Walk the talk if you say you are a "real" woman.

I just hope the broader left learn to stop falling on our collective sword every time some loopy activists demand we sacrifice all our political capital for their batshit demands. I'm not a Trumptard or out of touch if I believe defunding the police, medically transitioning minors, legalising all drugs or blindly supporting every self proclaimed victim are the kind of stupid thought bubbles that can lead to very negative consequences.

" I'm not a Trumptard"

Lucille Bluth's eyes just rolled to the back of her head.

This thread is already nuked. The left is just as authoritarian than the right.

[quote] Tell that to the middle school girl who got her nose broken at a volleyball game because the other team had a trans woman

Ok. Find one for me. I’ll bring along several hundred middle school girls who got their nose broken by another middle school girl at a volleyball game. You’ve fallen into the most clumsily laid trap — fear-mongering over barely existing “issues” that affect 0.01% of the country in order to put right-wing ghouls in charge of every aspect of our lives. I hope your imaginary middle school damsel in distress enjoys compulsory genital inspections by her high school dropout volleyball coach.

Without "woke" many of the protections that gay men and women now enjoy, and happened at a much quicker pace than some other minority groups would exist. Just because the right turned woke into a dirty word doesn't make it so.

You’re an embarrassment, OP.

Thank you R27/R28/R29. But your cogent posts will fall on the deliberately deaf ears of DL's anti-trans brigade. They're legendary for their stupidity, rigidity and intolerance, just like the MAGAts, whose dicks they want to suck and asses they want to kiss so badly.

R22 False. Y’all keep giving Trump godlike powers yet won’t acknowledge that he is generally popular and shit we be talking about that’s connecting with folks we are called trolls. Trump won’t affect Hollywood. The number one movie in the country right now is starting a queer woman of color. There will still be visibility for us in cinema. Doesn’t mean we have to be hijacked by lunatic lefties were pronouns are everything(and constantly changing) and men playing in female sports trumps common sense. Hollywood will continue to do what sells alike they always do.

Starring* a queer woman of color

R27 You’re a moron. You’re basically telling young girls to get over it when it’s a situation that doesn’t need to happen. If that population is so small, why do we have to accommodate everything for them? Why put at risk women who have always needed a safe space their rights because a small group can’t pass as the women they claim to be? What a joke.

R22 That would still be okay with me. I grew up in the 80s and 90s so I’m already used to living as a gay guy without the pandering. I’m not like these Gen Z’ers who will have a meltdown if I don’t see people on TV who “look like me“ or whatever.

R31 You’re right.

It’s like the left forgot that a whole generation of Americans grew up on The Cosby Show and Fresh Prince of Bel Air. That Will and Grace is one of the highest rated sitcoms of all time. That shows like Queer Eye and So you think you can Dance were beloved by fraus and their boyfriends.

Fuck all this absurd fringe social progressivism. It’s fucking annoying. A mafuckin white celebrity can rock any hairstyle they want. They are allies for Christ sake. All these think pieces about cultural appropriation while a black beautiful chica speaks on it rocking an Indian hair platinum blonde lacefront. Get real. People are tired of the double standards. People just want to love each other, fuck each other, and watch Monday night football.

It’s funny though. As a (gay) white man, constantly getting screamed at by people of color for my supposed privilege, and having them tell me that I’m the problem - as a liberal, I always just assumed that I just had to sit there and take it. It never occurred to me that I had the option to upset the apple cart by voting the other way. Not that I would want to, but apparently quite a few other people did.

[quote]Without "woke" many of the protections that gay men and women now enjoy, and happened at a much quicker pace than some other minority groups would exist.

WRONG. Gay men and women fought for their rights LONG BEFORE, Woke became a thing. Decades ago. Even gay marriage was won before "woke" was a thing.

Yeah, but conservative called us commies, then hippies, then liberals, then politically correct, then woke. As with terms for women, they turn words with positive meaning into smears. It’s almost like they know they can’t win the argument.