‘Red Dawn’ Director said the movie’s success taught him a lesson about liberal Hollywood

It sounds like "RETHUGS" are making up shit again.

MAGATS love this movie.

It's nothing more than uber-nationalistic, patriotic TRIPE.

As if he told that story.

and "The lesson that he told myself..."

Oh, fucking, dear you loon.

The daughter sounds like a bitter old bitch.

Bullshit - MGM wanted a teen Rambo movie.

He was known for directing war movies. Alexander Haig - yes THAT Alexander Haig - wanted to change the script to be anti-Nato and the director said no and was worried about where Haig was going with it.

This is right-wing conservative bullshit going back in time to create a narrative that never existed around this movie. What a bunch of bullshit.

"The younger Milius, a filmmaker and former Trump administration official, related what her father learned from making the movie."

So she decides to speak for her father, tell lies and distort history.

Very on-brand for a Trumper. She has no success of her own - but she has a lot of money - so she gloms on to Trump to get her a job and some respectability.

Bitch is PSYCHO

According to her "That movie made a great deal of money and they were like, ‘You're never getting your hands on a camera again until you calm down.’" It made money but not THAT much.

She added, "A lot of people claim that ‘Red Dawn’ is the reason that he never got to really finish his career in as prolific of a way as he should have because of its politics … It was not the kind of movie that Hollywood was interested in putting out at that moment."

Bullshit - he worked on other things and created the series ROME.

John Milius, who also co-wrote "Apocalypse Now," and directed "Conan the Barbarian," suffered a stroke in 2010. Asked about his health, Amanda told Fox News Digital that he "can't speak as well as he used to." But overall, "He's doing well … He is doing his thing. He is stable, happy."

So he's not saying ANY of this - it's his MAGA daughter, knowing full well he can't speak like he used to.

Awful daughter and terrible human being

First of all, John Milius is one of those crazy fucking right wingers who thinks he's a veteran because he made war movies.

Second, he was a notorious cokehead and groper. Not that that necessarily is a problem in Hollywood but he was also a nightmare to work with.

Third, Hollywood frequently looks at big hit movies and doesn't follow up on them. They call it a "non-repeating phenomenon." How many women buddy movies were there after Thelma and Louise? How many women-directed, women-starring, big-budget extravaganzas are there in the wake of the Barbie Movie? Zero and zero.

They wanted a "hot, sexy War movie" and got it with Red Dawn!!

Now it's a Maga movie-BITCH Please

I hated this movie. I've tried to watch over the years because my kids liked it, but I think it sucks. The director was a notorious coke head and groper? No wonder I hated it.

To be fair, Top Gun was a two hour recruitment film for the US Navy.

So, it's a bit disingenuous of this person to make these claims about Red Dawn.

Red Dawn when it came out was very controversial. It was a big hit with the right and not so much with the left. I am not sure how folks forgot that.

If the exact same film was set in France or Poland in 1941 and the enemy was the Germans those that hated and loved Red Dawn would just switch places.

MAGAs lie so motherfucking much. Good god, I just wish they’d die.

It's anti Russian and maga has its head up mother russhers ass

"The dangers of gun control????" Total insanity.

The funniest thing about this movie is, it seems to be every red hat flyover guy’s most cherished power fantasy, but when Palestinians resist the takeover of their land they are SATANIC JIHADI TERRORISTS.

R16 Because whiteness. White reptilian devils have infiltrated human form and replicated like crazy.

[quote] Very on-brand for a Trumper. She has no success of her own - but she has a lot of money - so she gloms on to Trump to get her a job and some respectability.

And of course there is nothing less patriotic than supporting Trump, or working for him. Just another Trump Whore going on and on about patriotism while hating everything that makes the U.S. distinctive and worthwhile.

I wonder if Amanda realizes that the extreme militarist rhetoric of the 1980s, which this ridiculous movie helped amplify, was primarily for the benefit of ratcheting up the military-industrial complex in the USA?

It was fuel for the “rightwing revolution” in America, which continues to this day despite all the “wokism gone wild” deflection.

WOLVERINES!

[quote]"Not true. That movie made a great deal of money and they were like, ‘You're never getting your hands on a camera again until you calm down.’"

They let him make two more films, both of which flopped.

R12 - I don't remember that at all - or are you just repeating right-wing talking points?

There's all of these articles written about controversy - by right-wingers in the past 10-15 years. But I don't recall the controversy back then.

There were controversial movies in the 80's - but I don't recall Red Dawn being talked about too much. It was the peak of the US vs. USSR crap - so it made sense at the time.

Nevermind that most right-wingers would now WANT Russia to invade.

White wingers open wide for red rusher

R22 I have no idea what Hollywood thought if this film nor what controversial to the right wingers about the film.

It was , when it came out, about as pro america kick ass love your guns then sing god bless america before you are shot kind of film. It is as right wing a movie as you can find.

I have no idea what talking points you are going on about or way anyone would try and deny that..

They hated the message so much they remade the movie less than 30 years later, with North Korea swapped in (and still Russia).

[quote]It is as right wing a movie as you can find.

And it was released during Hollywood-actor-turned-Republican-icon Ronald Reagan's first term, which was followed by a second term, and then four years of George H.W. Bush. We were deeply entrenched in Republicanism then and Reagan had many vocal friends and supporters in liberal Hollywood. Her take on this is absurd.

r26 Its not absurd. It is a fucking lie. That's all they do is: lie lie lie.

And what is patriotic about this ⬇

R24 - You just said upthread "Red Dawn when it came out was very controversial."

Then you say you have no idea what Hollywood thought of the film or what people said was controversial about it.

Make up your damn mind - you said it was very controversial - I don't recall it being very controversial at the time - then you just say oh it's such a pro-America film.

The daughter is making up stuff about this film that never happened because she's a Trumper. They made up this supposed liberal hatred of the film - but it never existed.

Did you know the confederate flag has never flown inside the nation's capitol, until January 6, 2021?

You are screaming you are a patriot, who loves this country but when the results of an election doesn't go your way, you march down to the nation's capitol, erect gallows (to hang VPOTUS), wave the flag of the confederacy and smear your shit on the walls.

You are not a patriot. You are a parasite. You're a magat.

You voted for trump because of the mask and vaccine mandates?

President Biden was not responsible for the mask or vaccine mandates, your orange Jesus is.

R29 JHC it was considered a right wing movie of the highest order. I do not know and could care less what Hollywood thought about it. What part of that is hard to understand?

I have no idea what you keep going on about or why.

Speaking of no nothing actors, read this shit to get a sniff of a truly rotten plot that set this country on it's course of destruction.

A protomagat plot of deviousness

A veteran Texas pol named Ben Barnes told the NYT that he had accompanied the late John Connally, the former Texas governor who was operating then as the Republican he became, to the Middle East for the purposes of striking a deal with Iran to hold the hostages.

What happened next Mr. Barnes has largely kept secret for nearly 43 years. Mr. Connally, he said, took him to one Middle Eastern capital after another that summer, meeting with a host of regional leaders to deliver a blunt message to be passed to Iran: Don’t release the hostages before the election. Mr. Reagan will win and give you a better deal. Then shortly after returning home, Mr. Barnes said, Mr. Connally reported to William J. Casey, the chairman of Mr. Reagan’s campaign and later director of the Central Intelligence Agency, briefing him about the trip in an airport lounge.

You will note that "largely kept secret" business in the first sentence there.

Mr. Barnes identified four living people he said he had confided in over the years: Mark K. Updegrove, president of the L.B.J. Foundation; Tom Johnson, a former aide to Lyndon Johnson (no relation) who later became publisher of the Los Angeles Times and president of CNN; Larry Temple, a former aide to Mr. Connally and Lyndon Johnson; and H.W. Brands, a University of Texas historian. All four of them confirmed in recent days that Mr. Barnes shared the story with them years ago. “As far as I know, Ben never has lied to me,” Tom Johnson said, a sentiment the others echoed. Mr. Brands included three paragraphs about Mr. Barnes’s recollections in a 2015 biography of Mr. Reagan, but the account generated little public notice at the time.

All you need to know about our political elite is contained in that paragraph. The guy who ran the Los Angeles Times and CNN knew Barnes' story for (presumably) years, and yet nobody at either of the news operations he ran was tasked with reporting out what was unquestionably newsworthy. And the same elite political news media that jumped all over Sick failed to follow the breadcrumbs left behind in a book by one of our most important public historians.

Interestingly, Jonathan Alter pointed out in a recent biography of Carter that Sick "came closest" to unraveling the October Surprise story, and he makes a compelling case that the Reagan campaign's finagling with the release of the hostages and the eventual (and scandalous) shipment of arms to the mullahs were possibly one and the same scandal.

Gary Sick, Carter’s well-regarded NSC expert on Iran, came closest to cracking the case. In 1991 Sick, by then a professor at Columbia University, made a circumstantial argument: in July 1980 William Casey, while serving as Reagan’s campaign manager, slipped out of a World War II history conference in London, flew to Madrid, and met in a hotel with intelligence operatives and one of Khomeini’s closest associates. According to Sick and sources interviewed by PBS’s investigative news program Frontline and other news outlets, a follow-up meeting several weeks later finalized a deal whereby the Iranians would coordinate with the Reagan campaign on the timing of the release of the hostages in exchange for a promise that, after he was elected, the new president would unfreeze their assets and — through the Israelis — provide spare parts for Iranian weapons.

[quote] They hated the message so much they remade the movie less than 30 years later, with North Korea swapped in (and still Russia).

If you read the article at op's link, this part was at the very end:

[bold]The 2012 remake of "Red Dawn" infamously changed the villains of the movie, after it was shot, from the Chinese to North Koreans. Asked about her dad’s response, she described herself as "under direct orders" not to see it and added, "None of us have even paid a dime to even glance at a frame of it."

She added they don't even acknowledge the remake in her house.[/bold]

He's insane, but I do credit him for hiring Basil Poledouris to score Conan. It's a masterpiece that transcends the film.

"Don’t release the hostages before the election. Mr. Reagan will win and give you a better deal."

The Iran–Contra scandal, the Iran Initiative, or simply Iran–Contra, was a political scandal in the United States that centered around the revelation that senior officials in the Ronald Reagan administration secretly facilitated the sale of arms to Iran from 1981 to 1986. As Iran was subject to an arms embargo at the time of the scandal, the sale of arms was deemed illegal.

The administration hoped to use the proceeds of the arms sale to fund the Contras, an anti-Sandinista rebel group in Nicaragua. Under the Boland Amendment, further funding of the Contras by legislative appropriations was prohibited by Congress, but the Reagan administration figured out a loophole by secretively using non-appropriated funds instead.

And you are a "Reagan Republican"? A never trumper? There's no difference.

R32 - because YOU said it was controversial at the time. What do you not understand?

You made a statement based on nothing then you claim it's such a right-wing movie as evidence that it was controversial at the time.

The 'controversy' has been stirred up by right-wingers the past 10-15 years. There wasn't much controversy about the film when it was released.

It's not a good movie. The first 20 mins are interesting but then zzzzzzzzzzzz.

r35 doesn't really change much. Russia, China, and North Korea are all big bads in the US, with the latter being the only one of the three that is relevantly communist. And not seeing it sounds like sour grapes on their part.

R40 very controversial. And I do mean very. Even more than that. I hope I have not triggered you. Now relax.

On the plus side it gave us our first pairing of Patrick Swayze and Jennifer Grey

Quite on the contrary to the thesis of the filmmaker's daughter and many of the people here, I think that the US armed forces have some sort of deal with certain filmmakers and studios in Hollywood to make "patriotic" films during times when a recent conflict has led to disillusionment with US involvement in wars overseas. In the mid 1990s we were suddenly getting a load of sci-fi "glorification of US military might" films like Independence Day. Starship Troopers, etc, following the Gulf War of 1990-1991 and the first attack on the World Trade Center . I think those blockbuster militaristic films were just as jingoistic as Red Dawn, which, by the way, followed closely the US invasion of Grenada, supposedly to oppose the "Communist takeover" of the island.

That's my story, and I'm sticking to it.

I have to call bullshit on this. Every fucking movie that came out in the 80's was incredibly jingoistic thanks to populist Reagan taking office for a hundred years.

It's not a good movie. The first 20 mins are interesting but then zzzzzzzzzzzz.

It's actually pretty exciting.

And C. Thomas Howell was really handsome.

So was Charlie Sheen.

Were the guns edited in the photo above, or were these just two different cast photos?

Talk about NRA propaganda!

It looks like they did the photoshoot with and without guns so there would be options depending where the photo would be published. 16 Magazine, that pinko rag, obviously felt the need to censor patriotism

r45 It's absolutely the case that any movie that uses US military hardware or personnel has had its script approved by the DoD and that includes requirements to cast the military in a good light.

Intergenerational idiocy.

Yeah that was my first thought, r41. It's not good or special. The only memorable thing about it is the premise. It actually kind of embarrassing that he's talking about this movie 40 years later like anyone cares.

You need to go back and watch Starship Troopers, r45. It doesn't come close to glorifying the military. If anything it made the military look cocky, immoral and stupid. Neil Patrick Harris dresses in an SS style uniform at one point.

I was a film-addicted teenager living in the Deep South when this movie came out.

I remember finding it an unwatchable bore. Really and truly, a snoozefest.

I don't have even opinions about its politics because I think as a work the movie is unworthy of my thoughts.

Oh boo hoo, little snowflake.

You could ask all those former dem men that voted for trump what they thought of Red Dawn.

How do Big Wednesday and Farewell to the King hold up?

Anybody?

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I think more important is that this movie began the friction-filled behind-the-scenes relationship between Patrick Swayze and Jennifer Grey that would continue on to Dirty Dancing.