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Pelosi Secretly Orchestrating Another Attempted Shake-Up of Dem Leadership

Months after running an internal pressure campaign that nudged President Joe Biden out of the 2024 election, former House Leader Nancy Pelosi (D-CA) is plotting another ouster within the Democratic Party.

The representative for California’s 11th congressional district—who stepped down as Leader of the House Democratic Caucus last year after two decades—is targeting the top member of her party on the Judiciary Committee, Rep. Jerry Nadler (D-NY), the New York Times reported.

Pelosi is among a group of Democrats privately urging 61-year-old Rep. Jamie Raskin (D-MD) to challenge Nadler, 77, for his post. Raskin is thinking about it, though hasn’t made up his mind and must weigh the fact that he and Nadler are friends, congressional colleagues told the Times.

Pelosi’s effort is part of an existential rethink among congressional Democrats, who are concerned their oldest members are not best suited to take on President-elect Donald Trump’s vociferous MAGA allies in Congress.

While Nadler has no apparent health issues, Democrats are still shaken by the decline of the late Sen. Dianne Feinstein, who died at age 90 last year, months after taking a leave of the party’s top Judiciary post in the Upper Chamber and long after she had exhibited signs of cognitive impairment.

Trump’s MAGA acolytes in Congress will be expected to help carry out the president-elect’s combative approach to law and order. The top Republican in the House Judiciary Committee is Jim Jordan (R-OH), a founder of the populist and MAGA-friendly Freedom Caucus.

The Times said Raskin, am off-the-cuff debater compared to the talking points-wedded Nadler, is viewed by disgruntled Democrats as better positioned to lead the opposition on the all-important committee.

Nadler isn’t the only ranking Democrat under the microscope. The Times reported Rep. Raúl Grijalva (D-AZ), 76, the top party member on the Natural Resources Committee, and Rep. David Scott (D-GA), 79, the top party member on the Agriculture Committee, are facing challenges from younger house members.

According to Jonathan Alter’s book American Reckoning, Pelosi “wasn’t happy that the only bloody fingerprints on the knife were hers“ after she played a key role in ousting Biden. She did so first by pressuring him behind the scenes and, when that didn’t work, by making public a cryptic message that time was ”running short" for Biden to make up his mind about staying in the race.

After he dropped out, Pelosi trashed his team. “I’ve never been that impressed with his political operation,” she said, in an interview with The New Yorker. “They won the White House. Bravo. But my concern was: this ain’t happening, and we have to make a decision for this to happen.”

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by Anonymousreply 81December 5, 2024 5:51 PM

This old hag needs to retire. She should be prosecuted for her alleged insider trading.

by Anonymousreply 1December 1, 2024 4:43 PM

This is a good idea. As long as the fresh blood is smart and knows how to fight, do it. Raikin should definitely replace Nadler.

by Anonymousreply 2December 1, 2024 4:43 PM

I like Jamie Raskin but the one they need to get rid of is Schumer since he blocked a usury bill that would have made a world of difference.

by Anonymousreply 3December 1, 2024 4:44 PM

..Raskin..

by Anonymousreply 4December 1, 2024 4:44 PM

I don't disagree with any of her choices, but can't the bitch stop running to the NYT every time she has an idea?

by Anonymousreply 5December 1, 2024 4:59 PM

Good for her. We have a koot problem, and Pelosi recognizes that, to the point of recognizing she was too old for the job. It's time more Democrats realized that.

And yeah, I agree about Grandpa Schumer. Step aside and let somebody younger and more dynamic take over. It's the Senate of course, so it's not Nancy Pelosi's job to step in. But somebody should.

by Anonymousreply 6December 1, 2024 5:23 PM

[quote] Pelosi Secretly Orchestrating Another Attempted Shake-Up of Dem Leadership

Is she talking about Hakeem Jeffries?

by Anonymousreply 7December 1, 2024 5:25 PM

Amy Klobuchar would make a great Senate Democratic leader. Please God, not Dick Durbin. Nice guy but too old and a total wimp. Amy will throw her salad comb at anyone that steps out of line!

by Anonymousreply 8December 1, 2024 5:27 PM

We need Martin O'Malley to lead the DNC.

He'll know what to do.

by Anonymousreply 9December 1, 2024 5:29 PM

WEHT Martin O'Malley?

by Anonymousreply 10December 1, 2024 6:40 PM

Rearrange those deck chairs Nance.

by Anonymousreply 11December 1, 2024 6:44 PM

DNC chair race kicks off as Ken Martin and Martin O’Malley launch bids

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by Anonymousreply 12December 1, 2024 6:46 PM

She needs to oust herself. She’s responsible for a lot that has gone wrong in the Democratic Party.

by Anonymousreply 13December 1, 2024 6:46 PM

[quote]She’s responsible for a lot that has gone wrong in the Democratic Party.

She navigated us through Trump's first term impeccably, r13.

by Anonymousreply 14December 1, 2024 6:48 PM

R14 = hi, Nancy.

by Anonymousreply 15December 1, 2024 6:49 PM

Good for Nancy! She recognizes the issues and does something about it.

by Anonymousreply 16December 1, 2024 6:49 PM

Oh yeah? Pelosi has a strong pimp hand and I am sure to fall in line. But I am furious about President Biden being shafted. FURIOUS THAT THIS ELECTION IS LOST TO MAGATTRY. DISGUSTED AND MISERABLE. YOU OWE THE PRESIDENT AN APOLOGY FOR THE DISRESPECT

by Anonymousreply 17December 1, 2024 6:53 PM

Perhaps someone can start a fight fund while they stand back and watch this old broad take control again. She needs to get a life, she’s been in this stuff long enough. Time to pass the torch.

by Anonymousreply 18December 1, 2024 6:59 PM

This old broad has experience street fighting, she's an Eyetalian from Baltimore and not the one to fuck with

by Anonymousreply 19December 1, 2024 7:02 PM

You people are daft about Schumer —he goes when he retires.

Who do you think will replace him? Maria, Jeanne, Mark, Jeff, Kirsten, Rich or Brian? Get real.

by Anonymousreply 20December 1, 2024 7:03 PM

I’m a cunt.

by Anonymousreply 21December 1, 2024 7:06 PM

R8 they also want to dump Durbin from Judiciary for the same reason as Nadler.

by Anonymousreply 22December 1, 2024 7:06 PM

[QUOTE]Time to pass the torch.

Isn't pushing younger MoCs into leadership positions passing the torch?

by Anonymousreply 23December 1, 2024 7:27 PM

Of course it is. Many numbnuts here.

by Anonymousreply 24December 1, 2024 7:30 PM

R5 😂

by Anonymousreply 25December 1, 2024 8:01 PM

Nancy Pelosi will forever be an icon because of this. I have never seen someone serve cunt so blatantly to Trump’s face like this. I love this fierce Italian mama.

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by Anonymousreply 26December 1, 2024 8:03 PM

[quote] Time to pass the torch.

Says the 82 year old, still calling the shots from behind the scenes.

If she's saying that all of these older lawmakers have to go, then SHE has to go also.

No more Mafia shit from the background.

Let the younger Democrats decide their own fate.

by Anonymousreply 27December 1, 2024 9:06 PM

She looks absolutely worn out.

by Anonymousreply 28December 1, 2024 9:33 PM

You may not like to hear this, but NANCY IS THE MASTER.

by Anonymousreply 29December 1, 2024 10:49 PM

She was correct about Biden needing to step aside. It just didn't happen two years ago like it should have. You can never fault her political instincts and strategy.

by Anonymousreply 30December 1, 2024 10:55 PM

I will fault Pelosi. The President was right, he is the only person to beat it.

by Anonymousreply 31December 1, 2024 10:59 PM

[quote]You may not like to hear this, but NANCY IS THE MASTER.

Of what at this point? She let the war criminals of the W. administration slide. We've lost two national elections to Trump of all people. She had to be forced to impeach Trump. She stonewalled the idea of primarying Biden then waited until three months before the election to force him to resign. And now we've lost a majority in every branch of government.

So what is she the master of, exactly?

[quote]She was correct about Biden needing to step aside. It just didn't happen two years ago like it should have.

No, the correct thing to have done was to tell him two years back that he wasn't running. Instead of publicly denouncing every concern and refusing to entertain the idea until the absolute last minute.

It wasn't great instincts or strategy because WE LOST!

by Anonymousreply 32December 1, 2024 11:01 PM

Impeaching Trump was kind of dumb. Why impeach when you know you can’t get the Senate to convict. Just a waste of time. Maybe Biden’s health took a real drop in late 2023 or 2024? I wouldn’t be surprised if it’s not dementia but something like Parkinson’s.

by Anonymousreply 33December 1, 2024 11:07 PM

Hilarious to see all you DL sages vilifying Pelosi when 36 months ago you were demanding she be put on Mt Rushmore. Fickel cunts deserve fickle cunts. At least MAGATs are loyal.

by Anonymousreply 34December 1, 2024 11:10 PM

She eats ice cream for breakfast, which I’ve always found very eccentric but in a disarming way.

by Anonymousreply 35December 1, 2024 11:13 PM

The Democrats were faked out by maga and lost the whole ballgame. You're supposed to close ranks and support your people.

Your people don't include Republicans who voted Republican until 2020 or Dick Cheney's daughter.

by Anonymousreply 36December 1, 2024 11:22 PM

Right on r19, r26 and r29 and everybody else here who has stated the obvious - Pelosi is a Boss.

And r32, you're expecting way too much out of Pelosi. In case you haven't noticed, she doesn't rule by waving a magic wand over the unwieldy caucus that is the Democratic caucus.

As for Hakeem Jeffries, he was her apprentice, protege, mentee. He's observed Pelosi up close. He knows what he's doing.

And besides, although Jeffries isn't Mr. Charisma, still, he makes me have impure thoughts.

by Anonymousreply 37December 1, 2024 11:28 PM

R34 not me. I have never been enamored of this heifer.

by Anonymousreply 38December 2, 2024 12:26 AM

[quote] Hilarious to see all you DL sages vilifying Pelosi when 36 months ago you were demanding she be put on Mt Rushmore.

I don't recall anyone on Datalounge saying this.

Ever.

by Anonymousreply 39December 2, 2024 12:46 AM

[quote]No more Mafia shit from the background.

That’s how she operates. She’s always been a backroom wheeler and dealer. She doesn’t announce things publicly until she knows the votes and support are there.

by Anonymousreply 40December 2, 2024 12:56 AM

She sees how she screwed up by not pushing Biden out when he was 80 so she's doing it now with Nadler. Don't wait and see the decline. Do it before they Feinstein it up.

by Anonymousreply 41December 2, 2024 1:08 AM

I'm Team Pelosi and still pissed about the President being removed from the Democratic ticket.

by Anonymousreply 42December 2, 2024 1:17 AM

For better or worse, the old bitch knew how to play the game.

We need someone who knows how to do that shit. Nice never wins. You need a Pelosi, a Rahm, a few slimeballs to get in the mud and fight.

by Anonymousreply 43December 2, 2024 1:20 AM

R21 = Al Franken.

by Anonymousreply 44December 2, 2024 1:22 AM

I'm tired of her shit, but at the same time I think she's probably right. I still can't deal with any of this right now, giving myself some time off.

by Anonymousreply 45December 2, 2024 1:52 AM

Hakeem is a sexy MFer, corporate litigator (I think for NBC?), a total stud and the right man for the job so far.

R40 doesn’t know squat about this thing called *legislating*. When one legislates, one doesn’t call a press conference when you’re only 15% into the game. Legislation occurs behind closed doors, until you have a final presentation ready for the public or key stakeholders. I agree Nancy should go sooner than later, but there is no one else who can help drive this roster change as fast as she can, because she has the most clout. Time is running out, so she is who we need in this moment, and she’s shown ZERO signs of cognitive decline. She won’t leave until she believes she’s fully protected both the Constitution (as much as one can now) and protected her party members from arrest (which they think is coming). I’m sure she’s telling certain people to flee, and she should flee herself before Inauguration. Once she finishes swapping out all the old players with new, I’ll be curious to see what else is happening and if the timing will be right for her to then truly exit.

I think she’s navigated a terrible chapter in our country with a ton of grace. They tried to murder her, her husband will never be the same, the daughters have fought her to leave Congress (because they are all rightfully afraid). But that bitch is tough as hell. Also, she got us the ACA, thank you for my hip and lumbar fusion Nancy, I was denied before the ACA!!!!!!!!! So I feel some loyalty to her, though I realize she’s no saint. What other politician has done anything close to the ACA?!?? Barack would NEVER have gotten it done, only Nancy could do it.

You know who I think could replace Schumer effectively? Amy Klobuchar. For whatever reason, she seems quite adept at sidestepping a lot of their attacks and is able to put them on defense. I can’t think of any other Senator who is as skilled at going on offense. Maybe Bernie, if they really want to just shake things up? But they won’t pick him, I know lol. Only other person I can think of, maybe Mark Warner? Last few years we don’t get to hear from him as much. Basically, a box of Kraft Macaroni & Cheese would be a step up from Chuckie. I cannot STAND him, even though I love him and his wit, I find him to be endearing. But get him the fuck off the field! He belongs doing Friday night stand-up at my local family-owned Greek diner, not running the Senate floor for Dems. I’ll take the tomato bisque with a grilled cheese sandwich please, and do you have root beer?

But for real, at the end of the day? If things keep going the way they are, expect arrests, executions, sham trials, fake charges, AI will be used for this, and the FBI will help make it all happen, they are the Stasi now.

Also, did you know someone on another site IDed the woman holding the cell phone behind Trump at his shooting? I won’t repeat her name, I did not copy or screenshot, but she is the Director of a field office in NY, and she’s still employed there. So that means the FBI helped him stage the shooting…..let that sink in for a bit. The moron who posted her info wants her investigated because he says the public deserves the right to know that the FBI refuses to investigate it, and he’ll likely get himself killed too if he doesn’t STFU. He’s drawing attention to something they want very much to he left alone.

Just another week in the hellhole that is America. God help us all, even though god is dead, I’m saying it anyway. No good god would allow Trump to win.

by Anonymousreply 46December 2, 2024 2:48 AM

It's got to suck to have worked your whole life to create a more compassionate society and see it deteriorate to this.

Nancy is the real deal. A devout Catholic mother who was marching for us in AIDS parades in San Francisco in the mid-80s and said funding AIDS research was her first priority upon being elected to Congress. Who else was doing that? Nobody.

by Anonymousreply 47December 2, 2024 2:55 AM

Thank you for the much-needed wisdom and sanity on this thread r46 and r47!

by Anonymousreply 48December 2, 2024 3:03 AM

Good.

Nadler is a bit of a stiff.

by Anonymousreply 49December 2, 2024 5:13 AM

[quote] Also, she got us the ACA, thank you for my hip and lumbar fusion Nancy, I was denied before the ACA!!!!!!!!! So I feel some loyalty to her, though I realize she’s no saint. What other politician has done anything close to the ACA?!?? Barack would NEVER have gotten it done, only Nancy could do it.

I totally agree with this.

Barack Obama could never have gotten the ACA done without Nancy Pelosi.

by Anonymousreply 50December 2, 2024 5:47 AM

^ And Harry Reid.

by Anonymousreply 51December 2, 2024 5:55 AM

The Pelosis do so well on stock trades. Never seems to lose a dime. Gosh I wonder what their secret is?

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by Anonymousreply 52December 2, 2024 6:10 AM

Everyone’s stocks have been doing great. It doesn’t take any “insider” knowledge…just enough capital to invest.

by Anonymousreply 53December 2, 2024 7:43 AM

If a Republican's stocks are doing great, he's a genius and everyone should discard any humanitarian ideal to idolize and replicate him.

If a Democrat's stocks are doing great, even if she's ushered in universal healthcare and attempted time and time again to share the wealth, she's a criminal! Lock her up!

by Anonymousreply 54December 2, 2024 7:54 AM

Raskin has now confirmed he will challenge Nader for minority leadership on Judiciary.

Raúl Grijalva steps aside at Natural Resources (Energy) to make way for Jared Hoffman.

by Anonymousreply 55December 2, 2024 6:55 PM

Huffman*

by Anonymousreply 56December 2, 2024 6:56 PM

Someone please dopp a house on this bitch.

by Anonymousreply 57December 2, 2024 7:19 PM

[quote] It doesn’t take any “insider” knowledge…just enough capital to invest.

President Loony Toons is already talking about prosecuting her after January. I'm sure she can explain it to a judge. No biggie.

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by Anonymousreply 58December 3, 2024 2:05 AM

This is what they get for not putting his ass in jail. Fuck Nancy.

by Anonymousreply 59December 3, 2024 3:04 PM

Fuck Nancy? Did you want her to personally handcuff him and extrajudicially transport him to prison?

by Anonymousreply 60December 3, 2024 3:26 PM

It’s all over anyway so whatever she does is fine with me.

by Anonymousreply 61December 3, 2024 3:30 PM

Great stock returns for the cost of democracy-thx Dump.

by Anonymousreply 62December 3, 2024 3:36 PM

R60 no mighty Joe from my POV. They ALL have fucked up AFAIC.

by Anonymousreply 63December 3, 2024 4:50 PM

i hope she slaps the shit out of someone

by Anonymousreply 64December 3, 2024 4:51 PM

Nadler resigned and endorsed Raskin.

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by Anonymousreply 65December 5, 2024 7:55 AM

It doesn’t matter anymore. Nothing does. Hope is dead. We have become the dystopian society that we feared.

by Anonymousreply 66December 5, 2024 1:04 PM

I think Pelosi is secretly pissed because she was never considered Vice Presidential or Presidential material by the Democratic party.

Think about it, how would you feel if you did everything within your power to make sure your Nemesis was defeated and your Nemesis actually won and won by a significant margin.

Although many people applaud her, I find something "shady" about her that I can't put my finger on. The icing on the cake is when she immediately spoke out after the election blaming Biden for the result. Professional, emotionally intelligent leaders do not do this.

by Anonymousreply 67December 5, 2024 1:45 PM

She’s a shifty heifer, that’s all. She has to be, I guess, to deal with her fellow lowlifes.

by Anonymousreply 68December 5, 2024 2:14 PM

[quote]I think Pelosi is secretly pissed because she was never considered Vice Presidential or Presidential material by the Democratic party.

She always seemed committed to the House, where she had more power than she would have on a Presidential ticket.

by Anonymousreply 69December 5, 2024 2:18 PM

[quote] She always seemed committed to the House, where she had more power than she would have on a Presidential ticket.

This right here, and that's even after she was, as a teenager "in the room where it happened", watching her Dad and JFK meet and discuss whatever.

The President can offer for consideration spending/budget bills to the US House of Representatives. But that's it.

The "Power of the Purse" begins nowhere else than the HoR, which makes it arguably, and if you're in the majority, let alone the Speaker of the House AND in the majority, a very powerful player.

You know how I confirm that a Democratic woman is smart, ruff, tuff and hard to bluff and scares the Be-Jebees out of Repugs?

Their Smear Mechanisms go into high gear.

We saw it with Hillary Clinton, Kamala Harris and Nancy Pelosi.

by Anonymousreply 70December 5, 2024 3:18 PM

[quote] According to Jonathan Alter’s book American Reckoning, Pelosi “wasn’t happy that the only bloody fingerprints on the knife were hers“ after she played a key role in ousting Biden."

It will be her legacy. She is a brawler. She was not going to leave this world known simply as a well-dressed, dutiful Catholic wife, mother and public servant. She has deftly navigated a culture of vicious backstabbers by being the most vicious, fearsome backstabber. She should embrace it.

by Anonymousreply 71December 5, 2024 3:44 PM

She looks like the Crypt keeper with massive dentures. Nasty old cunt.

by Anonymousreply 72December 5, 2024 3:46 PM

She’s made 100s of millions by insider trading. Allegedly.

by Anonymousreply 73December 5, 2024 3:47 PM

[quote] Amy will throw her salad comb at anyone that steps out of line!

Honey, it was a STAPLER not a mere hair comb. Amy is hardcore.

by Anonymousreply 74December 5, 2024 3:48 PM

They need to put Amy in charge of that Senate.

by Anonymousreply 75December 5, 2024 3:52 PM

[quote] She looks absolutely worn out.

It is very hard work herding old white men and convincing them to relinquish power and prestige. For the record, she graciously passed her own torch to Rep. Hakeem Jeffries.

by Anonymousreply 76December 5, 2024 3:53 PM

Nancy is the vicious devious backstabbing cunt that we need

Its too bad she is not 10 years younger, but we all should be grateful at what she has done for us

by Anonymousreply 77December 5, 2024 4:23 PM

Raskin will indeed be better than Nadler, so, that's good.

But I am feeling quite done with Nancy Pelosi. She has an admirable career history and that's an understatement. But it's 2024 now, and she was wrong about an open convention at the DNC (would have been a disastrous outcome voting wise), she was wrong about Dems holding the House, and she turns freakin' 85 years old in a few months.

by Anonymousreply 78December 5, 2024 4:28 PM

Too bad The Botox Queen wasn't home the day the guy showed up. A disgrace to the Democratic Party. Stabbed Biden in the back and later admitted she and Obama didn't want Kamala to run.

by Anonymousreply 79December 5, 2024 4:49 PM

And she was right, wasn’t she r79

Go back to your thin mattress in the bunkhouse at the troll farm Boris

by Anonymousreply 80December 5, 2024 4:51 PM

[quote]Stabbed Biden in the back and later admitted she and Obama didn't want Kamala to run.

Kamala lost, didn’t she?

by Anonymousreply 81December 5, 2024 5:51 PM
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