Ukrainian boxing champ Wladimir Klitschko calls out Rogan over Russian propaganda

It's obvious Rogan is now a Trump and Putin supporter. He was never all that bright, and had limited ability for critical thinking, by my question is, did he evolved into this right wing moron, or is he doing it because of the right wing bro culture that makes him richer?

He was always a conspiracy theorist (the writers of NewsRadio were basically mocking Joe by giving his character similar traits) so he was already halfway down that road anyway.

He asked to come on Rogan's show. Do you think ol' Joe's brave enough?

^ Yes.

Hayden Panetiere’s ex hmmmm

[quote] did he evolved into this right wing moron, or is he doing it because of the right wing bro culture that makes him richer?

What do you think, R1? He crafts his message to his audience, so that he appears to stand out from the crowd.

This op-ed from the NYTconnects the dots from Rogan and bro culture to tradwives to extremist views to the Buffoon.

I’d love for Klitschko to challenge Rogan to a match, man to man, and see how Rogan responds.

Rogan has fallen victim into the classic trap of believing that he’s a genius because people like to listen to him pontificate. He assumes he’s smart because he has influence.

He ignores the fact that his listeners are idiots who only react because what he says supports their wrong beliefs. The blind leading the blinder.

Klitschko is a very large man.

It may happen if Rogan decides to humiliate himself.

How unlikely is that?

Anybody who sides with Russia is a villain.

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^^ I hated that the link was from the Fail.

But damn, that size contrast makes me weak in the knees.

Nice package, too

I’d eat his ass.

I'd lick him from head to toe

Too little too late. But kudos to him for bravery

Why isn't big, brave, strong Klitschko out there fighting on the front line? He's about the age of the average Ukrainian soldier.

Questioning whether your country should be allowing Ukraine to fire directly on Russia using American ATACMS missiles is not "Russian propaganda". Even Biden said it was a bad idea until a week or so ago, and the only reason he's changed his mind is because Ukraine is in a dire situation and will have no leverage over Russia in the forthcoming negotiations. This is a desparate attempt to gain something for Ukraine, although it's failed so far. Was Biden a Putin fan swayed by Russian propaganda? Even now the Biden administration will only allow Ukraine to fire ATACMS on limited targets at a limited range. Biden must still be succumbing to Russian propaganda to a certain degree, according to the logic of Wladimir Klitschko.

Rogan absolutely will have him on his show, and he'll agree with everything Klitschko says, act like he's changed his mind, then on the very next show he'll immediately revert.

The trouble with Rogan and most Republicans is they’ve never been in a desperate situation. I don’t mean drafted/enlisted to fight in some strange foreign country like Iraq or Afghanistan. I mean a westernized country very similar to the US, like Ukraine. Sure it’s a different language/culture but if you walk down the street, you recognize coffee shops, cell phone stores, supermarkets. It’s pretty similar. The former Yugoslavia, same thing. Suddenly civil war breaks out and you’re fighting your neighbors. (I know Ukraine was invaded but it started in, what, 2014? by annexing those Russian speaking majority border areas). These people here really can’t imagine a civil war. They think their guns will protect them. They can’t picture what they’d do when gas supplies are disrupted or they need to buy milk and there are snipers on rooftops waiting for desperate people to venture out. Ask survivors of the siege of Sarajevo. My point is, people think it can’t happen here or the bad stuff will only happen to liberals. They don’t realize how EVERYTHING is connected and it can fall apart. Slowly at first, and then faster.

Someone needs to remind Rogan that Russian forces have raped and murdered Ukrainian civilians in area controlled by Russia. Let's see what he has to say about that. It's documented by the UN and the ICC.

The adults are talking, r17. Please take that retardation over to reddit and engage with some tards on your level. Tell them your brilliant "gotcha" question.

Great way of distracting from the question, r22. Could you explain why big, brave, strong Wladimir Klitschko isn't out there fighting on the front line, though? He's about the age of the average Ukrainian soldier and Ukraine's biggest lack right now is troops. Funny how you think it's great for Ukraine to stock up on ATACMS but overlook them stocking up on the thing they most need - troops.

Here's Jake Sullivan, United States National Security Advisor, saying that weapons systems aren't what Ukraine needs to make a difference right now. Rather, what Ukraine needs is manpower and Ukraine needs to do more to recruit more troops. Is the National Security Advisor of the United States a Putinite Russian propagandist too?

[quote]Our view has been that there's not one weapon system that makes a difference in this battle. It's about manpower, and Ukraine needs to do more, in our view, to firm up its lines in terms of the number of forces it has on the front lines. It's about munitions and it's about all of the other things that go to a country's national strength, their morale, their cohesion, their industrial base.

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[quote]Where is the straightest line between Ukrainian performance and inputs? It's on mobilization and manpower.

Because he's far more useful to Ukraine doing what he's doing now than he would be on the front lines. His death on the front lines would deal a massive morale blow, and the fact that he's on Putin's kill list would mean him being on the front lines would make life much more dangerous for anyone serving alongside him.

Rogan is a know-it-all douchebag who knows nothing.

[quote] Why isn't big, brave, strong Klitschko out there fighting on the front line? He's about the age of the average Ukrainian soldier.

Good question. Same for all the military age men who have fled the country. People who talk glibly about continuing the war haven’t had to face the desperation.

“Since 2022, Ukraine has barred most military-age men from leaving the country. As a result, the number seeking to cross the border illegally has soared, according to Ukraine’s border service. Aided by smugglers, some buy counterfeit paperwork to try to pass by official crossings. But others try a more desperate route, trying to sneak out on foot, taking their chances swimming across the river. Fast-flowing and cold, it is dangerous — at least two dozen men have died trying to make the crossing since 2022, according to the border service.”

Ah, that's it, ignore the answers that you don't like.

How exactly is he being useful to Ukraine by making a comment every few months, r24? He can still comment from the front lines - there are plenty of Ukrainian soldiers on social media telling it like it really is. Moreover, Klitschko's comments aren't particularly useful to Ukraine.

Ukraine's massive need right now is manpower, not someone to get into a spats with high-profile Americans. In fact, Ukraine's need for manpower is so great, the US is putting pressure on them to lower the recruitment age to 18 - something Zelenskyy has been resisting. If W. Klitschko truly wants to help Ukraine then he can protect Ukrainian youth - especially as the country has a huge demographic problem - and volunteer himself. Come to think of it, why hasn't Wladimir Klitschko already been called up to fight? The Ukrainian recruitment service is grabbing men off the streets, the need is so geeat, yet Wladimir Klitschko sits at home in comfort. Is he even in Ukraine?

[quote]The White House said Ukraine must recruit more soldiers for the war against Russia, including by lowering the draft age, as a lack of manpower rather than weapons is the country’s most pressing need.

[quote]President Volodymyr Zelenskiy’s government should consider lowering the recruitment age to 18 from 25 to create a much-needed pipeline of new troops to rotate into the front lines, a senior administration official told reporters Wednesday.

r28 He's raised over a hundred million dollars for Ukraine. He's also a member of the territorial reserve, so if commanders thought he was more useful on the front lines, they'd have him there. As I said, he's more important doing what he's doing now - your ignorance of what he's doing doesn't change that.

I notice you're just ignoring the other points about how having someone of Putin's hit list on the font lines isn't a good idea.

It's really funny how you think that one guy in his forties will suddenly change the entire course of the war though.