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Are medicine marijuana products snake oil?

I've only smoked marijuana a couple times in my 20s. Didn't like the way it made me feel (super paranoid.) I'm in my mid-50s now.

I suffer from anxiety and insomnia. A friend suggested I try some "sleep drops" from our local cannabis dispensary (I'm in NY), that he takes and sleeps like a baby now. They're microdoses of THC, CBD and CBN.

They did nothing for me. NOTHING. So I go back to the dispensary and ask what they'd suggest would be stronger but not enough to cause me paranoia. He recommended a tincture with 4:1:1 THC:CBN:CBD. He said I should fall asleep within minutes. Excited, I went to bed early to test it out. NOTHING.

Over the next several nights I tried increasing the dosage, and still no improvement on my sleep. I go back to dispensary, explain the problem, and that I'd like to try a gummy, not to help me sleep but to relax me and calm my anxiety (i normally take klonopin when I'm having an anxiety attack but only as needed). He gave me something that was 1:1 THC:CBD. Took half a dose and nothing; the next day took a full dose and -- you guessed it -- NOTHING!

Anyone here have any positive experiences with these things? Am I doing something wrong? Do some people just not have a reaction to them?

by Anonymousreply 55November 27, 2024 3:13 AM

If you’re thin edibles and tinctures can be less potent in their effects.

by Anonymousreply 1November 25, 2024 1:02 PM

NOTHING

by Anonymousreply 2November 25, 2024 1:03 PM

CBD makes me SLEEPY - it WORKS for ME.

by Anonymousreply 3November 25, 2024 1:04 PM

R1 Why?

by Anonymousreply 4November 25, 2024 1:05 PM

It's the opposite of Fat Whores Rejoice!

by Anonymousreply 5November 25, 2024 1:07 PM

Your product did not contain enough placebonols.

by Anonymousreply 6November 25, 2024 1:20 PM

Are you calling your friend a liar?

Not everyone responds the same way.

by Anonymousreply 7November 25, 2024 1:28 PM

CBD usually makes me feel sleepy

by Anonymousreply 8November 25, 2024 1:38 PM

These gummies work really well for me.

I’ve tried other brands, but Wyld works the best for me.

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by Anonymousreply 9November 25, 2024 1:48 PM

It doesn’t work the same way for everyone. Weed makes most people sleepy, but it keeps me awake at night.

by Anonymousreply 10November 25, 2024 2:04 PM

The times I've tried gummies for sleep the effects were either nothing or gave me intense heart palipitations that freaked me out so much I couldn't sleep.

by Anonymousreply 11November 25, 2024 2:04 PM

The CBD gummies that you can buy on-line are wildly different in their effects and I think it's the unregulated amount of CBD in each batch.

I've had some that did near to nothing and some that wrecked me for two days.

Nothing I've ever taken -CBD or cannabis - has ever helped with either sleep or pain, despite the claims. I think it's much more dependent on the particular person than they say.

by Anonymousreply 12November 25, 2024 2:13 PM

I’ve smoked joints and have eaten gummies from dispensaries that have worked marvelously for sleep.

Like almost any drug out there, both eventually stopped working for me. But while these two things worked? They worked very well.

by Anonymousreply 13November 25, 2024 2:39 PM

I take Exedrin or Advil PM's with Melatonin. I sleep like a baby.

by Anonymousreply 14November 25, 2024 2:45 PM

Some people don't get any benefits from ingesting THC, it's something to do with the enzymes in their stomach. My partner feels nothing from gummies, I thought he was full of shit till a budtender explained it to me.

by Anonymousreply 15November 25, 2024 2:50 PM

Are you off tv and the Internet at least 2 hours before you take those gummies?

They work best if not taken on a full stomach. And they can take 45-60 mins plus to kick in. And if your self Dx is accurate in your OP you have more problems than a simple gummy will take care of by themselves.

by Anonymousreply 16November 25, 2024 2:51 PM

I experience high tension and anxiety with THC. CBD makes me a bit sleepy

by Anonymousreply 17November 25, 2024 2:51 PM

There are two strains Sativa and Indica. Indica produces a more sleepy effect, Sativa can energize you. Make sure if you are trying to sleep you get Indica. I use 5 mg and it works for me. Helps to calm the random thoughts that keep me up at night. I find if I start a narrative of a fantasy in my head I dose off and dream well, rather than popping form thought to thought like I usually do.

by Anonymousreply 18November 25, 2024 2:52 PM

OP: In a word, yes. The research evidence suggests not much anything.

by Anonymousreply 19November 25, 2024 2:54 PM

I’m slim and I sleep well on a 1:1 THC/CBD tincture (about 1mg/1mg per drop), about 4-5 drops. Only on nights when I seem to need it.

I’ll feel a bit stoned and underproductive the next morning though, so it’s a no if I’ll need to actually show up for work (i.e. lead a Zoom meeting)

by Anonymousreply 20November 25, 2024 2:59 PM

r20 SLIM?? SLIM??

by Anonymousreply 21November 25, 2024 3:01 PM

The best way I have found to wake up not feeling different, not feeling stoned, is to keep my volcano on throughout the day and make sure it gets used properly and often

by Anonymousreply 22November 25, 2024 3:09 PM

I take 2 over-the-counter gummies and then a small puff of Indica (vape). That does the trick for me.

The gummies aren't CBD - they are melatonin, L-Theanine and botanicals (Chamomille, Passion Flower and Lemon Balm).

Indica can put me straight out - BUT not a huge hit.

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by Anonymousreply 23November 25, 2024 3:10 PM

It’s the New York in you.

by Anonymousreply 24November 25, 2024 6:04 PM

Smoking the hemp cigs got rid of muscle pain from moving for me, OP.

I couldn’t believe it, but I was desperate, and the Tylenol/hot shower/muscle rub wasn’t cutting it. So the next day, before bed, I desperately smoked one of the hemp cigs I had.

It worked like a miracle! The pain abated enough for me to sleep, then the next day, I felt fine. No pain at all.

by Anonymousreply 25November 25, 2024 6:21 PM

In a word, studies show they help some people, make sure it's not something from Florida from a beach front store fake crap, I hope they never go recreational here, then the watered down and fake products will appear. Go to a reliable dispensary.

by Anonymousreply 26November 25, 2024 7:07 PM

Cannabis is holy sacrament! Universal cure! Will turn lead into gold!

by Anonymousreply 27November 25, 2024 7:15 PM

They have broken the cannabis products into its parts. One can buy the part that works for you to get the effect you desire. You need to discover the part and the dose that works for you

by Anonymousreply 28November 25, 2024 7:20 PM

It depends on the brand. I recommend WYLD, Camino, Lost Farms Resin gummies, Ogeez RSO gummies.

by Anonymousreply 29November 25, 2024 8:09 PM

The ratio of CBD:THC is not as important as the total milligrams of THC in the dose. If the dose you’re using isn’t working, try a higher dose. As someone else said, it can take an hour - sometimes even longer - to feel the effects, so plan accordingly.

Works for me.

by Anonymousreply 30November 25, 2024 8:27 PM

Try a different dispensary. There are also carbonated drinks with like 3.5 mgs TCH and 10 mgs CBD that give me a more pleasant buzz than gummies. Doesn't necessarily help me sleep but mellows me out while unwinding before bed.

by Anonymousreply 31November 25, 2024 8:43 PM

Regarding OP's insomnia and related psychiatric issues:

If I had a hammer...

by Anonymousreply 32November 25, 2024 8:51 PM

[QUOTE]I take Exedrin or Advil PM's with Melatonin. I sleep like a baby

Excedrin contains caffeine!

by Anonymousreply 33November 25, 2024 8:56 PM

I am on prescription cannabinoid pills that were prescribed to me by my psychiatrist. They have been instrumental in my recovery from ptsd. It's the only thing that stops my chronic nightmares and it's also improved my fibromyalgia symptoms

by Anonymousreply 34November 25, 2024 9:03 PM

It sounds to me that your real problem is your anxiety. You take all these Cannabis things but you're probably hyper alert waiting to see if they kick in or not, and because of this you can't fall asleep. If you've been taking Klonopin to deal with your anxiety, your body is used to a very powerful and habit forming drug, and none of the cannabis products will come close to that. My suggestion from similar personal experience is for you to see a good psychiatrist that can help you end your Klonopin dependency and put you on a combination of different drugs (such as Mirtazepine + Trazodone, etc.) that can take the anxiety away so you can then use Cannabis to better effect. Cannabis is never going to work like Klonopin or Xanax but it will help you stay asleep.

by Anonymousreply 35November 25, 2024 9:09 PM

Meditate

by Anonymousreply 36November 25, 2024 10:08 PM

When I was a teenager my doctor had me taking valium by the handful and it had absolutely no effect (physically or psychologically) whatsoever on me. I don't remember why I was prescribed it.

by Anonymousreply 37November 25, 2024 10:33 PM

R34

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by Anonymousreply 38November 25, 2024 10:36 PM

R22, what is the volcano you speak of?

by Anonymousreply 39November 26, 2024 12:11 AM

Klonopin is no joke.

by Anonymousreply 40November 26, 2024 1:36 AM

Just take 40mg and fall asleep.

by Anonymousreply 41November 26, 2024 2:01 AM

OP if pot in your 20's made you paranoid the SUPERPOT of today will make you MENTAL. Avoid!

by Anonymousreply 42November 26, 2024 3:26 AM

Enough with the Klonopin and marijuana. You're just mixing drugs and trying to find a magic bullet.

I would see a therapist for the anxiety and insomnia.

Meditation: I hated it, at first. Now, there are so many guided meditations on YouTube that you can find something you like.

by Anonymousreply 43November 26, 2024 3:32 AM

Try exercise, henny.

by Anonymousreply 44November 26, 2024 3:43 AM

OP did you ever abuse opium or narcotics? Also how are your kidneys?

by Anonymousreply 45November 26, 2024 3:45 AM

Sister Mary Indica is my friend

by Anonymousreply 46November 26, 2024 4:08 AM

Try the Delta 9 with the exercise.

by Anonymousreply 47November 26, 2024 4:53 AM

Trazodone is probably a good idea for you as mentioned.

If that doesn’t work then ask your doctor for Imovane / Rhovane. That shit will knock you out in 10 minutes. Make sure you are within reach of a bed or couch after taking it.

by Anonymousreply 48November 26, 2024 4:57 AM

R39 do a search for volcano classic vape and you will see a picture of what mine looks like. Not the newer much more expensive model.

Nothing but pure vapor and the mj goes so much farther.

On sale about $350 and they last forever

by Anonymousreply 49November 26, 2024 8:35 AM

If you are getting gummies, be sure to ask if it is pure THC. Some makers of cheap gummies are putting in shitty canniboids and then Delta 8 or Delta 9 (synthetic pot).

by Anonymousreply 50November 26, 2024 2:41 PM

Thanks R49!

by Anonymousreply 51November 26, 2024 3:07 PM

R48, I take Trazadone, Ambien, and gummies… and still have trouble staying asleep some nights.

by Anonymousreply 52November 26, 2024 3:08 PM

Ambien is brain poison associated with sleep walking and even early Dementia.

by Anonymousreply 53November 26, 2024 4:17 PM

I'd be very wary of any prescription pills for sleeping - that sounds scary.

by Anonymousreply 54November 26, 2024 5:43 PM

FUCK YOU R54

by Anonymousreply 55November 27, 2024 3:13 AM
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