I am freaking out over the UFO whistleblowing and what they are saying

Oh, brother

I wonder what the purpose of the government is in keeping this all a secret. What do they think would happen if the public found out about it? How can it really be such a secret, if so many people know about it?

I need evidence for something this extreme. Otherwise it is far more likely to me that this is spooks playing games to justify this or that or to mislead some people or another country about this or that.

I'm ready for them to take me with them. Been ready my whole adult life

I am freaking out over the UFO whistleblowing and what you are saying

I am freaking out over the UFO whistleblowing and what we are saying

[quote]I haven’t slept all month

And you look it.

I'm ready to be probed.

Hogwash.

if this was true, you'd be dead (not sleeping for a month)

R9 Aren't there people who suffer from some type of medical disorder, who haven't slept in years?

[quote] Researchers do not know exactly how long humans can survive without sleep, but the longest record was 264 hours—just over 10 days—which was achieved during a scientific sleep experiment.

r1 = Thelma Ritter

Obviously I sleep a few hours here and there but I haven’t slept WELL or CONSISTENTLY all month.

And sorry for weird formatting I’m on mobile and type everything out in notes app.

Your comment at r13 was almost as interesting as your original post, OP.

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Manic phase OP?

OP = Richard Dreyfus

I’ve seen one, you’re not crazy and you have every right to feel weird about it.

I would suggest reading Jacques Vallee’s work if you haven’t already. This is a complicated topic that often gets diluted by insane people and grifters like Steven Greer and Jeremy Corbell. Vallee really is a light in the dark in that regard.

He essentially lays out how the modern phenomenon of UFOs / cryptid encounters can be traced back all the way to ancient times. What we would call aliens medieval peasants would call fairies. Old court records of witches who claimed to have met the devil in the woods at night line up with modern Bigfoot encounter stories. I’m generalizing but you get the point.

Jacques Vallee, John Mack, John Keel, Jeff Kripal, Josh Cutchin, Mircea Eliade, are all good authors to consider looking into. Just stay away from the UFO people who clearly don’t have critical thinking skills.

I've seen *something* too.

I believe they're out there and have been visiting us for some time.

It would be ridiculous for us to think there is no other sentient life out there in the Universe but (incredibly fucked-up, backwards) us. AND that we are the apex of technology. I'm laughing just typing that.

My deceased grandmother had a UFO sighting in the late 70s and I believed her because she wasn't one to make up stories.

Funny how they're always seen around airbases; especially those that are secretive.

It's pretty clear when people see what they think are UFOs they're witnessing experimental technology being tested. I mean, look at Stealth Bombers. They look bizarre on clear photos, but imagine how they'd have looked to the average bystander when they were being tested and weren't known about.

The government's only too happy for people to believe they're little green men because it creates a smokescreen.

As long as the USA can used the arms technology on China and Russia I'm not worried.

r21 it could also be that UFO sightings tend to be around air bases because they want to focus on tech around them.

R23 I think if they had the technology to get here they could likely monitor us from a distance.

Point.

But do you really think we're the most technologically advanced species?

There is a higher command about how to contact a species that is less than the current intelligence/technology.

I stand with Dave Troy. It's a scam and a hoax.

Read this OP and you won't be freaked out any further.

[Quote]I would suggest reading Jacques Vallee’s work if you haven’t already

Nope. He wrote a book pushing the Trinity hoax. Either his critical thinking skills are so poor he got suckered by some grifters, or he knew they were lying and promoted it anyway. Vallee has worked for years with intelligence agency figures like Hal Pudoff, and they are all heavily invested financially in promoting this bullshit, which is self perpetuating.

[quote]I'm ready for them to take me with them. Been ready my whole adult life

See, I don't know.

I like my life.

I mean, I'm not president or anything.

I'm just a teacher.

A substitute teacher.

A divorced substitute teacher who can't even afford her own place to live --

BEAM ME UP!!!

If we really have alien technology and life forms we would already know. That orange hob-goblin wouldn’t have been able to keep it a secret.

[quote]Researchers do not know exactly how long humans can survive without sleep, but the longest record was 264 hours—just over 10 days—which was achieved during a scientific sleep experiment.

10 days is nothing compared to Elsie Uteruden back in St. Olaf.

She stayed awake for 17 straight days in a rocking chair marathon.

Of course, she couldn't have done it without the moral support of her children...

And her husband...

And his cattle prod.

WE CAN’T even understand dolphins- how the FUCK do you think we have reasonable intel on ETs????

Agreed, r32,

you may have posted that in jest, but honestly...

You probably should find a good therapist and psychiatrist.

if you don't entertain this, r34, perhaps you need some time to reflect.

I believe in the Fermi Paradox.

The extraterrestrials are viruses. We are just a host planet.

OP starts one of these threads every few months.

OP, I just try not to think about it much.

So far so good.

Fuck yea, r36.

That's what I'm talking about.

We should start a new thread about this every few months. We are doomed if if we think this is all we can do.

[Quote] I'm ready for them to take me with them. Been ready my whole adult life

We are all ready for them to take you too.

I thought I saw a ufo eerily emerging from a cave once, but then I realized it was just Gene Hackman with his trousers down taking a shit on the sidewalk on Riverside Drive

I want to believe.

i think it's weird that most people DON'T believe on life outside of earth.

MAGAts most likely. To believe we are the utmost intelligence...a hardy LOL .

I’d love to see one with an alien coming down the UFO’s ramp.

Alas, haven’t seen either of those things, but I had a very interesting alien encounter while in twilight sleep.

I hate to be a boring killjoy but there’s no tangible evidence. Just stories and claims, often even secondhand claims.

There’s no quick and easy answer for why people are doing this. Some of them are profiting off it, some are delusional and overly gullible.

I’ll join you in freaking out when someone unveils an actual alien body or a spaceship. Until then it’s far likelier that someone is playing you or otherwise fooled themselves.

I know that’s lame and I want to see the aliens, too.

I won’t believe it until the aliens do a press conference.

A press conference will be the aliens taking over.

Aliens could transmit some interstellar bacterial virus that we don't have treatment for. If they exist, they need to stay away from earth, we have enough problems.

[quote] I've seen *something* too.

I saw something nasty in the woodshed.

[quote] I believe in the Fermi Paradox.

I believe in linear time and object permanence.

I believe discounting the possibility of extra terrestrial life is stupid given the sheer scale of the universe, but these hearings and the characters associated with them are just running another grift.

I don’t. Humans are simply too stupid to even be aware of the presence of ET life

[quote] I believe discounting the possibility of extra terrestrial life is stupid given the sheer scale of the universe

thank you.

I figured they came down, looked around, said, “fuck, no” and left.

Agreed.

We are a fucked up society.

OP, do not look up “gray goo”.

Two words, OP: Dyatlov Pass.

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I'm sure there are other "beings" in the universe, I just don't think they'd bother with us. I too have "seen something" but I'm not worried at all.

I'm more worried about the idiots on our planet, mostly the ones with the nukes.

I believe there is other intelligent life in the galaxy, let alone universe.

I do NOT believe that any of that intelligent life has actually visited Earth.

[quote] Two words, OP: Dyatlov Pass.

What’s “Dyatlov Pass”?

I am a believer. I saw a UFO in 1967, along with my mom and at least a dozen other people. So, I am thinking the government is covering up at least one close encounter of the third kind.

[quote]Two words, OP: Dyatlov Pass.

Dyatlov Pass has pretty much been resolved. They believed an avalanche was imminent, so fled. Once out of the tents, they basically succumbed to the cold. There are several youtube videos which break it down.

We've been drip-fed this for decades so if it's proven I think it will be an anti-climax.

Serious question: what happens to religion if this is true? Jews and Muslims could close ranks but Christianity might be seriously exposed. The only "church" that could factor aliens into its belief system is (gulp!) Scientology.

I don’t really buy it. It took 10 years to reach Pluto. These aliens would have to super long lifespans and have advanced light speed spacecrafts to reach Earth and the idea that they would be secretive about it seems dumb.

I hope the aliens take over

After decades of speculation, the mystery of the Paulding Light in Michigan’s Upper Peninsula was finally solved in an astonishing revelation by NASA. For years, the glowing orb of light had been dismissed as car headlights or electrical interference, but a groundbreaking study confirmed it as evidence of UFO activity. Using advanced drone technology and electromagnetic field sensors, researchers tracked the light to its source: an object hovering silently just beyond the dense pine forest. The craft, metallic and disc-shaped, emitted patterns of light matching the Paulding Light’s signature glow. NASA scientists suggested the phenomenon was a form of extraterrestrial signaling, its purpose still unknown. The discovery left locals stunned and transformed the sleepy town of Paulding into a global hotspot for UFO enthusiasts and scientists alike.

R52 sounds like you don’t really know what the Fermi paradox is, hon

R18 is very wise

I think it's an nothing more than an experiment in social media memetics to see how many people can be persuaded to buy into it, as well as to see what forms of propaganda rollout are most effective at spreading belief in it. Just how gullible is the public?

▲ Correction: I think it's nothing more

Does Amazon auto send tin foil to your house each month for making new hats? Oh that’s right- it would be sent to your section 8 housing unit.

With dump back in the White House you got bigger probs the. UFO’s

[Quote]Christianity might be seriously exposed.

Some of the drivers of all this bullshit are Mormons and right-wing catholics.

The Mormon links at the link. Brandon Fugal is the Mormon PT Barnum of the UFO circuit. He thinks UFOs are Mormon prophesy.

The Catholic angles on the UFO narrative

I saw a whole bunch of weird looking terrestrials. Turned out just to be a bunch of dykes and an odd turkey-master baby or two. Gobble gobble!

Unless "they" are coming to save us or swiftly put us all out of our misery, it doesn't matter. We can't even get along with one another so there's no way we can coexist peacefully with aliens. We would either go to war with them try to enslave them, or exploit them in a lab/on the battlefield.

If I were a higher life form, I'd avoid us at all costs. We are a dumpster fire as a species.

Is this the same OP who a few weeks ago hadn’t been sleeping and was ranting and raving about how Trump’s gonna round us all up , nightmare dystopia style?

[quote]Christianity might be seriously exposed.

Eastern Orthodox writer Rod Dreher lays out his case (such as it is) that demons are behind UFOs in a new book.

"Though Dreher doesn’t think there’s a demon under every rock, he thinks there’s probably a demon behind every UFO. By his account, demons appear as aliens because they “are the kind of godlike beings that a secular society—one in which science and technology hold supreme authority—can believe in when they have discarded the God of the Bible”

Tell me when the Invasion is and I will start clapping.

[quote]but I had a very interesting alien encounter while in twilight sleep.

Sleep paralysis. We're you probed?

Other life in the universe? Of course. Are they visiting? No.

New, supposedly authentic pics and other info being leaked from the super-secret "Immaculate Constellation" program, This is very recent stuff.

I'm not turning to a Youtube account that uses a cartoon green alien as its logo to give me the answers on this

Religion would keep on - it's a system based on faith, not facts, so belief will always be moulded to adjust to new facts.

If they were here it would be unlikely that they just got here. To quote Frank Herbert - fear is the mind killer! So calm down.

I have been saying, for a long time, that we are their "missing link." I have a feeling they came her dropped off a lot of matter, and we evolved from it. It seems obvious when you look at ancient civilizations and all of them seem to have gods and look heaven ward and record phenomena of some kind. And look at the Egyptians. It seems their entire civilization worshipped the afterlife as they called it. And some of their "gods" looked like fucking aliens. Lately I have felt compelled to look at the night sky around midnight and just look at the various constellations and the planets t hat are visible and I feel like it is more than possible, it is probable. I also believe they have a lot more in common with the Alien franchise than they do with E.T.

Verificatia of size meat of non human life forms pls? Do they also wear Kaftan?

[quote]Dyatlov Pass has pretty much been resolved. They believed an avalanche was imminent, so fled. Once out of the tents, they basically succumbed to the cold. There are several youtube videos which break it down.

R65 Could you tell us more? Or perhaps start a thread about it?

While it is almost certain that intelligent life existed, existed, or will exist elsewhere in the Cosmos, the sheer vastness of time and space make it practically impossible that they are visiting us.

Dismissing the tiny slice of Earth history which we humans have been sentient, the longest living creatures still have existence windows so narrow that the chance that overlap occurs in which two are extant, close enough together to meet, and on a similar enough intelligence level to recognize one another as sentient life is infinitesimally small.

Look at r91 providing solutions to a paradox.

You conspiracy theorist’s wish we had visitors because you can’t deal with day to day realities of life.

R93 There is some truth to this.

What does the theorist possess?

"To Serve MAGA."

R66, I’ve heard Christians posit that the aliens are angels, navigating their own version of a chariot or that they’re demons, navigating their version of a chariot.

They have an answer for everything.

[quote] "To Serve MAGA."

It’s…it’s a kook book!

I’m sure aliens exist but who knows if they’d ever make contact with us. I would love it though especially if I got to meet them. It would be a childhood dream come true. They probably think we’re Scum.

Rebel scum.

Anyone who has time to contemplate aliens has too much time and is obviously avoiding responsibilities.

Unless you write about and publish alien BS and make money on the alien believers-$$$

Now there’s an interesting theory

A lot of the TV and YouTube alien programs are just regurgitating-restated crap that’s been on the airways for years with new CGI and new music track.

We are Texas or Pennsyltucky. I wouldn't want to have any contact with us either.

But I still do think they've visited us. They took a few looks and peaced out.

Alien fans eat that shit up-$

[quote]r63 What’s “Dyatlov Pass”?

[italic]The room goes silent, all eyes shifting right and left.

An uncomfortable cough.

Hold me with your Rigellian tentacles, David: I'm scared.

That Betty and Barney Hill book was one of the kick offs to this madness. They were both very disturbed people before their ‘’ fantastic voyage’’ .

[quote]R88 I have been saying, for a long time, that we are their "missing link." I have a feeling they came here, dropped off a lot of matter, and we evolved from it.

I want reparation! I would have been a big success back on my planet of origin. But they had to pawn me off on THIS one - a stranger to all about me [bold] : (

My alien parents were worse than my human ones!

I would be really pissed off if I found out I had roots on another planets and had to live on this shithole

Oh yes-LOL! The Dyatlov Pass incident- The convergence of Aliens-Big Foot-Russian soldiers-Indigenous tribes with the intent to take down a tent full of hikers.

[quote] People can’t see it they are all over this planet most were destroyed in the great flood, suddenly change the rotational axis or polar shift so at 90 degrees the current water is spinning at about 1.5 mph but the rotation has changed aka a massive event most life etc would disappear right away. Antarctica was once near Easter Island now only one part of that remains continents were ripped apart by the massive forces. Look at the erosion tide lines and on Easter those large figures are nearly covered. This planet was mined for gold and not by us.

Alien espionage on our broadcast networks is real!

Individuals like that lying Travis Walton-Alien abductee still making money showing up at alien conventions to sign autographs.Nice work if you can get it and lots of backlash.

His families story was created to cover financial mismanagement and quickly debunked but publishers and Hollywood saw it’s potential so a star was born.

It’s all been debunked-even the navy videos of speeding UFO’s are all debunked so we have to get back to our school and work and relationship problems and AGING-yes getting older in not for sissy’s or Ancient Aliens.

r117 link?

Yeah! and what about them crop circles? them’s real

They will be here in 5 to 6 years. The ships will hover over beaches, so we get used to them. They will come to help us.

Space alien overlords might treat us better than what we’ll get under Trump for the next 4 years.

Bashar?-wasn’t he one a them wise men in the manger?

[quote] Bashar?-wasn’t he one a them wise men in the manger?

No he’s the president of Syria named after a sod.

If aliens ever visit it will not end well for us so all you aliens are visiting believing nutjobs better hope they don't.

We have to believe we are magic.

R104 that goes for just about everything online

[quote] R93: You conspiracy theorist’s wish…

Oh, dear.

Stephen Hawking discouraged reaching out to Aliens-they may answer.

Go Bakk two yore whole ‘’Oh deer’’

I think they visited Earth a lonnnng time ago and left us here. They check on us once in a while and are getting so disgusted with us they have lost interest. The planet is dying. We have the capacity to save it but we lack the will.

My grandfather was a bigwig in the army in the 50s, and he brought home a book called "How to Cook For Forty Humans."

I'm waiting for the black aliens

Unidentified means we don’t know. The claim of extraterrestrial requires extraordinary evidence. To date, that has not been presented.

R131 hahaha. “We have forty humans coming over, and a $60 budget! What do we do?”

I’ll tell you what we do, we serve those little bastards last night’s special. Maybe they like goulash, who can tell? Either way, it’s the best food in Brewster.

This is all you need on Betty and Barney Hill

The thought that aliens are presenting hole scares the ever-luvin' shit out of a lot of people. I can imagine why, apart from the usual angst we see here. Nevertheless, I do foresee a day when we'll be discussing whether Zorg's hung or whether it drains its pasta or not. Make peace with the new reality however you may, but it's happening.

Meh. whatever

In response to the (illegal) aliens from out space, Trump is imposing a 30 per cent tariff on goods imported from the Crab Nebula.

What would they want from us? If they have the technology to travel to Earth (and go unnoticed) then their intellect compared with ours would be like comparing Mount Everest to a grain of salt. We would be insignificant to them. More insignificant than the ants are to us. Probably wouldn't even acknowledge out existence

[quote]R139: What would they want from us?

Our planetary resources - water, heavy elements, organic matter, all of which are relatively rare in the vast reaches of space. If someone undertook the extraordinary effort of coming here, you can bet the visit would not be benign. (Stephen Hawking's take on the issue. His advice? We should pipe the fuck down and not respond to hails from outer space.)

Your point about their greater advancement reinforces that advice. It has often been observed that, from a historic standpoint, whenever a more advanced civilization contacts a lesser one, it's never been beneficial to the latter.

But I do not believe that contact between us and extraterrestrials has occurred. (My own take is at R72.) There's been no reliable evidence of it.

It's being kept secret because it completely negates Christianity and many other religions. Suicide rates, especially among Americans, would be well into the double digits of percentage of the population.

Disclosure may be the bump already suicidal Americans so desperately need.

If it’s bible beaters and religious nutters, I say “Bring it the FUCK on!”

bump in excitement*

If they want/need our water or air they are too late; we've ruined both.

If they like plastic goo and toxic sludge, we are the one stop shopping stop.

R140 If they want water and all the other stuff you mentioned, why not just kill is all, since we are destroying all those things for them. Killings us would be like a child play for them

The "They're not revealing it because of religion" reason has never made sense to me. Religion adapts all the time. Christianity has adapted to countless things. Aliens suddenly existing will not lead to suicides or rioting by religious people en masse. Aliens will just be another part of God's creation to them. Even if the aliens were atheists (who knows? They could be believers in their own weird cult), it wouldn't change a thing for the believers.

If knowledge of aliens is being hidden (and I don't think it is, sorry), it's for some other reason.

I've never seen a UFO and I'm old.

[quote]It's being kept secret because it completely negates Christianity and many other religions. Suicide rates, especially among Americans, would be well into the double digits of percentage of the population.

And the downside here is what, exactly?

The Paranormal Chic from YT just posted a daytime "jellyfish UFO" from Texas that happened on 11-24-24 but I can't get it to post on here (It's a short).

Check it out on her site if you're interested.

I saw statues and wall paintings in tombs in Egypt that had creatures "gods" that looked like fucking aliens f rom another planet.

"I'm freaking out over ...." = "I'm not anywhere near freaking out, but I want attention."

[quote] that looked like fucking aliens f rom another planet

As opposed to aliens from this planet?

[quote]Suicide rates, especially among Americans, would be well into the double digits of

And this would be bad how?

Stop threatening us with a good time, OP!

I wouldn’t doubt it. But I am sure if they are around they don’t want us to know it yet.

Google about Operation Saucer that happened in Brazil, back in 1977/78.

The pictures certainly freaked me out.

Pure conjecture, of course, and contrary to a statement upthread, I would think it is *they* and not *we*who are the missing link, the long lost connection between homo sapiens and apes.

They have monitored their Earthly progeny through the ages; could it be that they intervene now as we have the tools by which to annihilate ourselves?

Who's your daddy?👽

The thing that freaked me out the most was reading about underwater sea bases of aliens...

Beneath the North Pole, too, R159.

I had an encounter. It was a weeknight after work. The blender suddenly roared to life unprovoked, sending my dog into a panic. The toaster popped. The kitchen lights flickered out, and through the window, I saw what looked like a metallic fortune cookie, glowing slightly green, floating over the patio. It pulsed silently, casting fluid shadows. Then, just as suddenly, it was gone. Blender silent, toaster dead, and me questioning if I’d lost my mind or witnessed something otherworldly.

...and the toddler, Barry squeezed out of the doggie door and went racing across the fields chasing the lights!

The YT web site "Strange Mysteries" had a gov. whistleblower reveal some new pics & info recently in a multi-part interaction.

Teh whistleblower even answered some questions in the last video =

Teh Bells