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THEATRE GOSSIP #576: The "Tammy Faye is Swept Away" Edition

It was between that and "Death Becomes Tammy Faye."

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by Anonymousreply 184November 25, 2024 12:04 AM

Previous thread:

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by Anonymousreply 1November 21, 2024 4:11 PM

(Insert 10 posts of bitching about the thread title.)

I think it's fine, OP.

by Anonymousreply 2November 21, 2024 4:14 PM

The bidding for Chita's Spider Woman Tony is holding steady at $8,000 with five days left to go. Her Tony for The Rink is currently going for $1k less.

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by Anonymousreply 3November 21, 2024 4:15 PM

Too soon OP?

by Anonymousreply 4November 21, 2024 4:29 PM

[quote]The bidding for Chita's Spider Woman Tony is holding steady at $8,000 with five days left to go. Her Tony for The Rink is currently going for $1k less.

Only the two?

by Anonymousreply 5November 21, 2024 4:30 PM

Did William Hurt’s kids sell his “Kiss” Oscar? Will JLo’s kids sell hers??

by Anonymousreply 6November 21, 2024 4:44 PM

Joy Behar To Lead Cast Of Her Off Broadway Play ‘My First Ex-Husband’:

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by Anonymousreply 7November 21, 2024 5:22 PM

Still no link to that video then?

by Anonymousreply 8November 21, 2024 5:35 PM

R7: I can fill in while she's out.

by Anonymousreply 9November 21, 2024 5:52 PM

What is the ABS as it relates to Michael Park in the last thread?

Will I be embarrassed that I couldn't figure it out?

by Anonymousreply 10November 21, 2024 6:51 PM

R7 omg, I’m a fan of Joy…but that show sounds dreadful!

by Anonymousreply 11November 21, 2024 6:53 PM

A playwright she ain't!

by Anonymousreply 12November 21, 2024 7:16 PM

Wow! We're getting a whole new Wicked musical.

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by Anonymousreply 13November 21, 2024 7:47 PM

I wonder if Schwartz and Holzman are going to make “Son of a Witch” into a musical?

by Anonymousreply 14November 21, 2024 9:21 PM

Did anyone identify the middle poster in the bottom row of that porn scene from the last thread?

by Anonymousreply 15November 21, 2024 10:17 PM

I'm now the lead bidder on a few of Chita's outfits.

MARY!

by Anonymousreply 16November 21, 2024 10:38 PM

real women have Boops!

by Anonymousreply 17November 21, 2024 11:26 PM

Nicely done OP on thread name!

by Anonymousreply 18November 21, 2024 11:31 PM

r10 Adult bookstore. Which Mr. Park is rumored to have frequented in his television days.

(Or was it his Evan Hansen days?)

by Anonymousreply 19November 22, 2024 2:02 AM

If the latter—-on the west side of 8th Ave, in the high 40s?!

by Anonymousreply 20November 22, 2024 2:18 AM

First preview of Gypsy.

I’m sure the queens will say Audra is definitive and “mother” and “queen”

It doesn’t deny the fact that her voice is not right for this role no matter how many times she “SLAYS”

by Anonymousreply 21November 22, 2024 2:18 AM

Or 8th Ave., between 14th and 23rd?

by Anonymousreply 22November 22, 2024 2:19 AM

Rumor has it he can suck the chrome off a bumper!

by Anonymousreply 23November 22, 2024 2:26 AM

Jesse Green really loved the ladies of Death Becomes Her:

Megan Hilty and Jennifer Simard are "comic treasures"

"Hilty is an inventive and beguiling comedian, putting a warm spin on even the meanest zingers."

"Simard is simply brilliant. I say 'simply' advisedly; it takes a lot of craft and homework to stand next to Hilty and not be outdone. Happily, her Helen is an astonishing creation of disappointment and disparagement: Dorothy Parker boiled down to a syrup, spitting takedowns like sour candies."

"The chance to see two theatrical masterminds go at it for a few hours is sufficient justification for the effort. I wouldn’t be surprised if, in its next incarnation, the Lunt-Fontanne Theater became the Hilty-Simard."

by Anonymousreply 24November 22, 2024 2:50 AM

R24: I'm shocked how much he liked Swept Away.

by Anonymousreply 25November 22, 2024 2:55 AM

Reviews for DBH are mostly raves and even Jesse was mixed.

Having worked with Chris Gattelli a couple of times over the years, I'm quite shocked he got it together. Of all those ex-chorus boys who went on to become choreographers and then directors, he would have been the last I'd predicted this kind of success. But he's a sweet guy, so there's that.

by Anonymousreply 26November 22, 2024 3:37 AM

I think Hilty/Simard will be tougher to figure out for Tonys.

At least Mary Louise Wilson and Christine Ebersole had a clear lead/supporting divide.

by Anonymousreply 27November 22, 2024 3:56 AM

No one will ever accuse OP of being a try hard.

by Anonymousreply 28November 22, 2024 4:07 AM

I would think Chita’s Tony for The Rink would have the higher value since it was her first and therefore more historically significant. She also beat Bernadette and Liza.

Bonham’s hasn’t positioned this correctly.

by Anonymousreply 29November 22, 2024 4:10 AM

Bernadette deserved that Tony.

by Anonymousreply 30November 22, 2024 4:29 AM

Well, now she can buy it!

by Anonymousreply 31November 22, 2024 4:32 AM

Poor Bernie.

by Anonymousreply 32November 22, 2024 4:43 AM

Yeah, but Bernie didn't deserve her Tony for AGYG and Song & Dance was nothing special, either, so it all equals out. She got those two awards to make up for losing Sunday and (later) Gypsy.

by Anonymousreply 33November 22, 2024 4:50 AM

I didn't know Tony voters were psychics who also considered future losses when voting. Does the American Theatre Wing give out crystal balls with Antoinette Perry trapped inside like Madame Leota?

by Anonymousreply 34November 22, 2024 5:01 AM

Sweetie, I didn't mean it literally. I meant that there were two performances Bernadette deserved Tonys for that she didn't get and two she got because the competition was weak those years and it was nice to honor her. If it means so much to you to be chronologically in order, then you may count her AGYG award as a make up for Into the Woods.

Meanwhile, Marissa Jaret Winokur was a guest judge on a roller skating competition show last month.

by Anonymousreply 35November 22, 2024 6:16 AM

Marissa Jaret Winokur makes me want to leave America.

by Anonymousreply 36November 22, 2024 10:11 AM

[quote]Did anyone identify the middle poster in the bottom row of that porn scene from the last thread?

It's for a production of Pam Gems' play, "Dusa, Fish, Stas, & Vi" at the Mark Taper Forum in L.A. (1978)

The stars were: Dianne Wiest, Jennifer Warren, Fran Brill, & Marybeth Hurt.

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by Anonymousreply 37November 22, 2024 10:13 AM

THANK you, r37! For some reason, that was driving me crazy! Blessings on you!

by Anonymousreply 38November 22, 2024 10:27 AM

The new Sally Bowles in Cabaret seems to be out of the show quite a bit more than her scheduled absences. Don't these youngins like to work anymore?

by Anonymousreply 39November 22, 2024 11:59 AM

So Gypsy first preview is getting a mixed review.

The influencers on Twitter are all saying Audra and the show are amazing (as predicted) and that Audra had Tony #7 sewn up.

Broadwayworld chat board is much more critical and calling the whole thing a misfire and Audra miscast.

Will be interesting to see who wins the argument in the end.

by Anonymousreply 40November 22, 2024 12:15 PM

Audra’s voice is just fine for Rose. It’s just a warmer voice than the sledgehammer stuff we’re used to. It will make Rose a more empathetic person.

Looking forward to see this version! Never, never bet against Audra.

by Anonymousreply 41November 22, 2024 12:16 PM

[Quote] Audra had Tony #7 sewn up

What about me and my Jesus MAGA hat??

by Anonymousreply 42November 22, 2024 12:17 PM

Someone has apparently started a thread - they apparently exploded in a gushing orgasm after seeing Audra.

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by Anonymousreply 43November 22, 2024 1:50 PM

Those first preview GYPSY comments on BroadwayWorld are all over the place but everyone agrees the strippers stole the show. As usual. Audra's getting everything from STUNNING to looks like she doesn't want to be there.

by Anonymousreply 44November 22, 2024 2:10 PM

[quote]Someone has apparently started a thread - they apparently exploded in a gushing orgasm after seeing Audra.

I hope they sat on a towel.

by Anonymousreply 45November 22, 2024 2:16 PM

Or my face.

by Anonymousreply 46November 22, 2024 2:21 PM

[quote]Audra’s voice is just fine for Rose. It’s just a warmer voice than the sledgehammer stuff we’re used to.

That's your opinion, which many people are obviously not going to share. And not all previous Roses had "sledghammer" voices -- for example, Lansbury, Lavin, Peters.

by Anonymousreply 47November 22, 2024 2:21 PM

r40 The posts on BWW are all over the place, so you claiming they say one thing in particular is completely untrue

by Anonymousreply 48November 22, 2024 2:53 PM

I have a vague memory of that play Dusa, Fish, Stas and Vi in NY but can't remember any specifics. It was certainly a memorable title if nothing else.

Must look it up now.

by Anonymousreply 49November 22, 2024 2:56 PM

If I were a collector of such things I'd much prefer having a Tony for Chita Rivera in KISS OF THE SPIDER WOMAN sitting on my mantle just because the title is so much more eye-catching and exotic than THE RINK (which could have flopped on Broadway just for the blandness of the title alone).

by Anonymousreply 50November 22, 2024 3:00 PM

^^^Also, THE RINK is little more than a footnote in theater history, whereas KISS OF THE SPIDER WOMAN is far better known and loved, even before the imminent release of the film version.

by Anonymousreply 51November 22, 2024 3:04 PM

Both Rita Moreno and Rachel Zegler were on Seth Meyers' show last night. I assume his booker hates DL.

by Anonymousreply 52November 22, 2024 3:06 PM

i won this one for gettin' raped, right on the boardwalk!

by Anonymousreply 53November 22, 2024 3:07 PM

Another thank you to R37! I never heard of this show! DL is educational.

by Anonymousreply 54November 22, 2024 3:23 PM

Evan Ross Katz on Ariana and Cynthia's performances in Wicked:

Easily lost in the cacophony of talking points around a film so big it almost can’t be contained is just how seismically spectacular these two performances are from Cynthia Erivo and Ariana Grande. It’s not that it’s not obvious. In fact, it’s in a sense *so* obvious that your brain can trick you into thinking it need not be discussed because it’s simply a universal truth, right? Yet still, it’s necessary that we tether and frame the conversation. Performances like these don’t just happen. They are honed. I believe it’s rare to witness, and when one does, it is necessary to call it out and offer up our flowers (specifically in this instance, tulips). I particularly love Jonny’s point here: “You have to leave your life behind and immerse yourself so fully.” What these women achieve on that screen is of course rooted in talent, but it’s brought to life through craft. Rigorous. Meticulous. Scrupulous. Unwavering. They gave parts of themselves in order to breathe life into these characters. It’s a combination of care and commitment and technique. It’s rare. And it’s marvelous. And no matter what you read about this film, nothing, in my humble and admittedly biased opinion (I love these two so much), will be able to properly convey this level of artistry rendered on screen. There’s a million reasons to love this film — and I hope we can have long and meaningful discussions about all 999,998 at a later date. But in the immediate, let us celebrate these two women and the master class they lay bare on this screen.

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by Anonymousreply 55November 22, 2024 3:24 PM

This reaction is becoming annoying. Can someone be good and *not* be the best thing that’s ever happened ever???

Christ!

by Anonymousreply 56November 22, 2024 3:41 PM

[quote]Wow! We're getting a whole new Wicked musical.

Don't know if it was "sing-a-long" performance, but they should incorporate the flying into the Broadway show they did in Brazil. So much better than the cheap forklift effect.

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by Anonymousreply 57November 22, 2024 3:44 PM

One thing that's very clear from all that BWW chat about GYPSY's first preview: You'll be taking your chances on whether or not you'll see Audra performing on any given night.

by Anonymousreply 58November 22, 2024 4:02 PM

R58, do you mean because people are saying that the role is very challenging for her vocally? I think anyone with any knowledge of Audra's performance history could have guessed that it was only a matter of time before she started missing performances in GYPSY, and/or an alternate was announced. And probably a fairly short amount of time, at that.

by Anonymousreply 59November 22, 2024 4:05 PM

R56 Yes, I agree.

It's the Beyonce effect. It can't just be very good, or entertaining. It must be described as a thing that rearranged pop culture or popular music in its entirety, forever.

by Anonymousreply 60November 22, 2024 4:06 PM

I googled Dusa, Fish, Stas and Vi to hopefully find out something about the NY production, which I think ran at the Public, but couldn't find a thing other than the briefest synopses of the plot.

If anyone finds more or remembers the off-Broadway production, please let me know. Like the cast and director - who were they? I think it was not same as the LA Taper production.

by Anonymousreply 61November 22, 2024 4:06 PM

r59, yes, that's exactly what I mean. Who wants to spend hundreds of dollars for tickets when you don't know if the star will show up?

by Anonymousreply 62November 22, 2024 4:08 PM

R50, saying The Rink flopped on Broadway is like saying the Baby Jesus tanked in Bethlehem. How dare you.

by Anonymousreply 63November 22, 2024 4:33 PM

Someone at Broadway World said about Audra’s performance that she looked like she was trying to shoplift something at CVS.

by Anonymousreply 64November 22, 2024 4:34 PM

R43, (throws towel) Clean it up!

by Anonymousreply 65November 22, 2024 4:36 PM

That quote at R55 sounds like badly programmed AI.

by Anonymousreply 66November 22, 2024 4:39 PM

Well R58, that was clear when they announced the show.

by Anonymousreply 67November 22, 2024 4:39 PM

Maybe Erivo will go everywhere in green face now so people recognise her.

by Anonymousreply 68November 22, 2024 4:42 PM

[quote]Who wants to spend hundreds of dollars for tickets when you don't know if the star will show up?

From the moment Audra as Rose was announced, I predicted this would turn out to be a huge problem. She has been known to call out VERY frequently in most of her shows. LADY DAY was a major exception, I assume because in that show she was using her voice in a very different, less taxing way. I imagine what will happen with GYPSY is that she'll soon start calling out, and the production and the press office will do their utmost to somehow try to minimize that, similar to what happened with Lindsay Mendez in MERRILY and the female lead in HELL'S KITCHEN.

by Anonymousreply 69November 22, 2024 5:04 PM

R69 Oh! Mary! Why are you fretting about something that hasn't happened?!

by Anonymousreply 70November 22, 2024 5:38 PM

R70, because there's every reason to believe it's going to happen, and it's just a question of when.

by Anonymousreply 71November 22, 2024 5:40 PM

Isn't that what we are supposed to do here at DL, r70?

by Anonymousreply 72November 22, 2024 5:40 PM

Ok, I'll get my handkerchief ready!

by Anonymousreply 73November 22, 2024 5:41 PM

Audra is a part time performer, full time diva!

4 shows a week is her absolute max!

by Anonymousreply 74November 22, 2024 6:07 PM

It sounds like Audra's performance last night was close to what Betty Lynn tried at Papermill and we know how that turned out.

by Anonymousreply 75November 22, 2024 6:13 PM

[quote] do you mean because people are saying that the role is very challenging for her vocally?

No, Sondemites are insufferable and insist every performer sound exactly like the Original Cast. No variation allowed.

by Anonymousreply 76November 22, 2024 6:16 PM

[quote]One thing that's very clear from all that BWW chat about GYPSY's first preview: You'll be taking your chances on whether or not you'll see Audra performing on any given night.

On off nights, she'll be doing a medley of "Some People" and "Small World" in the queue at Chipotle.

by Anonymousreply 77November 22, 2024 6:45 PM

[quote]That quote at [R55] sounds like badly programmed AI.

Who the hell is Evan Ross Katz anyway? I looked him up and still don't know why I should be listening to him. AI isn't half as vapid as he is.

by Anonymousreply 78November 22, 2024 6:57 PM

For anyone who might be interested, Caroline Bowman will play Norma on January 12th. Maybe that's her last day before leaving for Smash rehearsals?

by Anonymousreply 79November 22, 2024 7:16 PM

R78 Some YAAAAAS KWEEN queen that somehow made a bit of a tepid career out of her yaaaaasified social media postings.

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by Anonymousreply 80November 22, 2024 7:39 PM

WTF Audra?????

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by Anonymousreply 81November 22, 2024 7:56 PM

R81, She's doing the Lansbury thing where she bows after Rose's Turn, thinking there's an audience

by Anonymousreply 82November 22, 2024 8:02 PM

The gushing over Wicked is becoming annoying. You just know it's part of the marketing because NOTHING is that amazing.

by Anonymousreply 83November 22, 2024 8:03 PM

It looks like she goes completely mad by the end of the number. Instead of Gypsy coming back for her, the men in the white coats do.

by Anonymousreply 84November 22, 2024 8:11 PM

R82. Don't all of the Rose's do that?

by Anonymousreply 85November 22, 2024 8:12 PM

R81: Why is a "2 x Tony Award and Olivier winning Broadway Producer" filming and posting a clip he filmed mid-performance during a preview? Ghastly behavior!

by Anonymousreply 86November 22, 2024 8:16 PM

Rose's what, R85?

by Anonymousreply 87November 22, 2024 8:20 PM

The Rose with the absolute worst voice for the role was Bernadette. Rose isn't a kewpie doll

by Anonymousreply 88November 22, 2024 8:23 PM

I have to take Broadway break for a while. Everything is just okay but costs an arm and a leg

by Anonymousreply 89November 22, 2024 9:34 PM

R88 wait until you hear Audra. Rose’s Turn and Everything’s Coming Up Roses from last night leaked on Tik Tok and it’s as bad as they say.

I don’t see how she survives this role. Her voice sounded ROUGH at the last half o Everything’s Coming Up Roses.

The producers have to be shitting their pants.

Her standby is a no-name, Jesus lover (according to her Instagram) and people will demand refunds.

How does this make any money??!??

by Anonymousreply 90November 22, 2024 9:52 PM

Well, Audra is no Liv Ullman.

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by Anonymousreply 91November 22, 2024 9:58 PM

Oh, that clip was Audra? I thought it was Tyler Perry.

by Anonymousreply 92November 22, 2024 10:11 PM

I’m surprised that the producers didn’t stump out for someone like Heather Headley (who’d be a slam dunk in the part) as Audra’s standby.

by Anonymousreply 93November 22, 2024 10:16 PM

I'd pay to see that, R93.

by Anonymousreply 94November 22, 2024 10:19 PM

R93. Heather lives in Chicago.

by Anonymousreply 95November 22, 2024 10:22 PM

She can fly!

by Anonymousreply 96November 22, 2024 10:26 PM

That's a bit unfair, given she's receiving a standing ovation in that clip. To stay in character while filling for time requires a bit of extra stage business that can look a little "extra". It probably would be smarter for Audra to freeze in that moment as if time is standing still for Rose in her delusional fantasy world. The story can begin again (conclude) when the audience shuts up.

by Anonymousreply 97November 22, 2024 10:54 PM

^ replying to R84.

by Anonymousreply 98November 22, 2024 10:55 PM

R88, “kewpie doll”? You must be a thousand years old.

by Anonymousreply 99November 22, 2024 11:08 PM

It's not that she's playing to an invisible audience, it's that she seems mentally impaired. And Rose is not that.

by Anonymousreply 100November 22, 2024 11:28 PM

Uh, Rose has some rather severe mental/emotional issues. She's a fuckin' mess.

The real Rose, really was a monster. The Gypsy version of Rose is, she's a pushy but loving stage mom; a mac truck, but one with HEART!

Rose bowing at the end doesn't necessarily mean she's "crazy"....she's fantasizing about being a star and that's what stars do at the end of their big number. The maniacal way some actresses play that moment, does suggest Rose they're choosing to play Rose as having "some issues".

by Anonymousreply 101November 23, 2024 12:17 AM

[quote]She can fly!

Can she defy gravity?

by Anonymousreply 102November 23, 2024 12:56 AM

Rose bowling?

Ucla football sucks.

by Anonymousreply 103November 23, 2024 1:02 AM

[quote][R88], “kewpie doll”? You must be a thousand years old.

You have never heard the words “kewpie doll" in reference to Bernadette Peters, r99?

What are you, 12?

by Anonymousreply 104November 23, 2024 1:22 AM

I remember seeing the first performance of Patti in Gypsy at City Center and being impressed at how polished it was. They probably had a fraction of the rehearsal time the current production had. Laura and Boyd were already there and, despite some visible nerves and a few flubs, Patti was still great. The performance itself was smooth and tight and the audience loved it. Audra and company have three weeks to pull it together and I hope they get there.

by Anonymousreply 105November 23, 2024 1:47 AM

[quote]Audra and company have three weeks to pull it together and I hope they get there.

But, according to the few reports we have so far, the issues have nothing to do with the show needing time to be pulled together, Instead, they're all about Audra's vocal unsuitability for the role.

Count me as someone else who questions why anyone would hire George Wolfe to direct anything at this point. As far as I can tell, he had ONE great success in his career, a few middling successes, several disappointments, and several huge flops. Plus, he did almost run The Public Theater into the ground. So I guess one has to look beyond his track record for other reason(s) why he still gets work.

by Anonymousreply 106November 23, 2024 3:12 AM

[quote]What are you, 12?

Not the best response when someone's accusing you of being ancient

by Anonymousreply 107November 23, 2024 3:28 AM

OMG R81 she looks demented and also fat, not that that's a bad thing......... Flop anyone?

by Anonymousreply 108November 23, 2024 3:37 AM

“Demented and Fat” - a memoir by Audra McDonald.

by Anonymousreply 109November 23, 2024 4:56 AM

Mama Rose is also neurodivergent.

by Anonymousreply 110November 23, 2024 7:28 AM

Wasn't Madame Rose also lesbionic?

by Anonymousreply 111November 23, 2024 9:33 AM

Yup.

And, possibly murderous.

by Anonymousreply 112November 23, 2024 9:39 AM

R104, of course I understand the tired reference to a doll from the early 1900s. Your bitchery must have been the height of sophistication in 1974.

by Anonymousreply 113November 23, 2024 10:24 AM

[quote] Your bitchery must have been the height of sophistication in 1974.

Oh, I doubt that, r113.

by Anonymousreply 114November 23, 2024 10:41 AM

my rose is turning, mama, it burns, mama, it burns!

by Anonymousreply 115November 23, 2024 11:21 AM

Looking at that video of Audra, I’m happy my seat is far far from the stage

by Anonymousreply 116November 23, 2024 1:12 PM

Whatever you may think of Audra's vocal abilities, she's a pretty limited actress. I spent the entire season of Lady Day's run shocked at the rapturous response she got over playing Billie Holiday when in truth, she sounded like JZ Knight channelling Ramtha.

by Anonymousreply 117November 23, 2024 1:17 PM

Ah, there’s always someone who insists that EVERYONE ELSE is deluded. In r117’s case, they know better than six seasons of Tony voters.and ten seasons of Tony nominators. More than Stephen Sondheim and Terrence McNally and George C. Wolfe. Calling the most awarded stage actor “limited” certainly is a choice, though not an especially flattering one.

by Anonymousreply 118November 23, 2024 1:44 PM

Oh stop. Audra’s one of this generation’s great stage actresses

by Anonymousreply 119November 23, 2024 1:44 PM

R119

-Audra Ann

by Anonymousreply 120November 23, 2024 2:12 PM

R117. Agreed. Audra is not a great actor. Watch her on The Gilded Age and see Denee Benton blow her off the screen in their scenes together.

by Anonymousreply 121November 23, 2024 2:19 PM

In that clip, she seems to be channeling the young Helen Keller.

by Anonymousreply 122November 23, 2024 2:42 PM

Re George Wolfe, didn't he come out of retirement for this? Maybe he realized he was tapped out.

by Anonymousreply 123November 23, 2024 2:45 PM

Huh, r122, while you see Helen Keller I see Eleanor Roosevelt.

by Anonymousreply 124November 23, 2024 3:02 PM

I don't see anything at all.

by Anonymousreply 125November 23, 2024 3:22 PM

How can you possibly fuck up Gypsy?

by Anonymousreply 126November 23, 2024 3:33 PM

Georgie Wolfe never met a stage show he couldn't fuck up. I have no respect for the idiotic decision to hire him. Listening, Tom?

by Anonymousreply 127November 23, 2024 3:48 PM

I saw two guys get up and leave early at Swept Away last night. Quite a number of empty orchestra seats too.

by Anonymousreply 128November 23, 2024 4:13 PM

My favorite George C Wolfe story is that Elaine Stritch had him come to a run through rehearsal of her newest club act after their success with At Liberty.

He stayed for 20 minutes, told Elaine he had vertigo, had to go lay down, and never returned.

by Anonymousreply 129November 23, 2024 4:15 PM

R85 all the Rose's what?

by Anonymousreply 130November 23, 2024 4:21 PM

"to go lay down"

Oh, dear.

by Anonymousreply 131November 23, 2024 5:13 PM

Tom Kirdahy is such a sweet guy but as a producer, he's too hands off, too starry-eyed, and allows directors like Stro (NY, NY, anyone?) and Wolfe free rein and does nobody, especially his investors any favors. He has no vision.

I long for the bygone days of David Merrick, Kermit Bloomgarden, Alexander Cohen and Saint-Subber. Producers with a singular passion who had a strong point of view and weren't afraid to express it.

by Anonymousreply 132November 23, 2024 5:46 PM

[quote]Break a leg or I'll break it for you.

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by Anonymousreply 133November 23, 2024 6:15 PM

When did Megan Hilty get so fat? At least Audra can blame encroaching old age.

by Anonymousreply 134November 23, 2024 7:49 PM

[quote]The Rose with the absolute worst voice for the role was Bernadette. Rose isn't a kewpie doll

That’s ridiculous. Bernadette didn’t use a “kewpie doll” voice for Rose. She sounded great. Her “Rose’s Turn” was one of the best ever. As opposed to Patti, who had the “typical” Rose belt but played the whole evening like she was still pissed off about losing the Tony to Joanna Gleason.

by Anonymousreply 135November 23, 2024 7:54 PM

Heard they abandoned the strobe light change of the cast from kids to teens which is ridiculous as it is one of the greatest stage magic effects in musical history.

by Anonymousreply 136November 23, 2024 8:08 PM

🚨‘Wicked’ debuted with a $46.7M Friday opening which is more than the highest grossing movie musical of all time Frozen 2 which debuted with $42.5M 👀

Frozen 2 went on to gross $1.5 billion at the box office.

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by Anonymousreply 137November 23, 2024 8:31 PM

I have mixed feelings about the spectacular success of the WICKED movie. One the one hand, I'm thrilled for Stephen Schwartz and many of the other people involved, and of course, it's always great news when a movie musical is received so well by the general public, especially an adaptation of a Broadway show. On the other hand, it's too bad that this will be perceived as a huge feather in the cap of the hateful Cynthia Erivo. But it does seem likely that she'll continue to sabotage her own career, so maybe I can look forward to that.

by Anonymousreply 138November 23, 2024 9:02 PM

Is Erivo gay?

by Anonymousreply 139November 23, 2024 9:23 PM

Will young girls start wearing large nose rings in imitation of their new idol? How does one explain that fashion choice? I really don't get it. Is it some sort of tribute or memorial to enslaved people?

by Anonymousreply 140November 23, 2024 9:24 PM

Asshole.. Shut up.

by Anonymousreply 141November 23, 2024 9:30 PM

It’s jewelry dumbshit.

by Anonymousreply 142November 23, 2024 9:31 PM

I'd rather see Sutton's" Rose" instead of Audra's.

by Anonymousreply 143November 24, 2024 12:51 AM

Omg. Your lips to my tormented ears, still bleeding from Sutton’s grating take on “My White Knight.” Hard pass.

by Anonymousreply 144November 24, 2024 1:11 AM

I travel a lot for work and listen to Sirius/XM Hits One hours a day while driving and this afternoon they actually included an edited version of “Defying Gravity” into the rotation… when’s the last time a genuine Broadway song (albeit the movie soundtrack) was on the actual radio? I don’t even remember Hamilton getting much radio play. No question, Wicked is a blockbuster.

by Anonymousreply 145November 24, 2024 1:27 AM

It'll be interesting to see if the Wicked movie leaves any lasting impression on culture once the Universal payola dries up.

by Anonymousreply 146November 24, 2024 1:38 AM

R144, you do realize that "My White Knight" and, well, ANY song in GYPSY have very different demands, right?

by Anonymousreply 147November 24, 2024 2:27 AM

Upper West Side teenager is trying to fight ageism in theater:

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by Anonymousreply 148November 24, 2024 3:39 AM

Visitors to Death Becomes Her.....

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by Anonymousreply 149November 24, 2024 4:17 AM

R147, yeah I’ve seen both shows and both actresses plenty of times. Sutton is a soap opera/sitcom level actor and the kind of singer you pluck out of the chorus for a short solo line. The demands of Gypsy are far beyond her, even if she can belt as gratingly as La Lupone. Talent for the deaf, blind, and dumb.

by Anonymousreply 150November 24, 2024 4:35 AM

huh

by Anonymousreply 151November 24, 2024 4:52 AM

Looking back at their performances in the final scene(s) now, I'm starting to wonder if Patti's Rose was overpraised and Bernadette's was underappreciated. Patti's performance seems so manic and frenzied and bordering on demented. Bernadette's breaks my heart (and, occasionally, makes me laugh ruefully.)

PATTI...

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by Anonymousreply 152November 24, 2024 5:47 AM

VS. Bernadette...

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by Anonymousreply 153November 24, 2024 5:47 AM

Word is that Patti's performance as Rose varied wildly in quality from one show to another, for whatever reasons. She was awful when I saw her, indicating all over the place, and with all of her physical and vocal mannerisms on full display. I actually thought she was better in the City Center run, although her performance then was hampered by that ridiculously non-period wig or hairstyle.

by Anonymousreply 154November 24, 2024 5:55 AM

Pick a Rose...

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by Anonymousreply 155November 24, 2024 5:55 AM

R152, did you see both performances?

Choice after, Patti was exactly what you’d expect from her and very loud about doing it. She ended the show clawing at the scenery as the curtain came down.

Bernadette crafted each moment very specifically, and often in ways that made the material seem brand new. As the show progressed, I felt her desire to live through her children was heartbreaking rather thab vicious. She ended the show as a women with greatness who has been shattered by life.

Incidentally, after watching bootlegs of both shows after I saw them. It became clear to me that video doesn’t even begin to capture what happens in a theater. Not the same at all.

by Anonymousreply 156November 24, 2024 1:05 PM

^”Choice after choice, Patti”

by Anonymousreply 157November 24, 2024 1:06 PM

Year after year, older and older. Patti gets loud, Bernie gets bolder.

by Anonymousreply 158November 24, 2024 1:19 PM

Bernadette got a bum rap early on when she got sick and missed shows. She's a true pro since a kid and wouldn't miss if she didn't have to. But a certain theatre writer of Murdoch had it out for her and attacked her every chance he could.

by Anonymousreply 159November 24, 2024 1:21 PM

R159. I love Bernadette but her numerous absences from The Goodbye Girl put a target on her back. The rumors that she wanted out of the show started during the out of town tryout.

by Anonymousreply 160November 24, 2024 3:03 PM

R160 I don’t blame her. She had bum material and a ham for a co-star who was still getting better notices.

by Anonymousreply 161November 24, 2024 3:15 PM

[quote]Talent for the deaf, blind, and dumb.

Leave me out of this.

-- R125

by Anonymousreply 162November 24, 2024 3:15 PM

Peters' Rose (which I saw in previews and then again after it opened) wasn't entirely successful, but it was fresh and interesting throughout, as was the entire production.

LuPone's Rose (which I saw at Ravinia and on Broadway) was unsubtle and self-serving.

by Anonymousreply 163November 24, 2024 4:05 PM

R152, stop! STOP STOP STOP!!! Who do you think you are? WHO DO YOU THINK YOU ARE??? Get out! Get out! That's right YOU! Get out!!!

Let's start again......

by Anonymousreply 164November 24, 2024 4:06 PM

Bitch all ya want, but who got the Tony? That's right, dolls!

by Anonymousreply 165November 24, 2024 4:43 PM

It was a pity Tony.

by Anonymousreply 166November 24, 2024 4:54 PM

The one and only Peters/Gypsy bootleg in circulation is from an early preview and it's terrible.

by Anonymousreply 167November 24, 2024 4:54 PM

Peters was a great disappointment for me when I saw her do her GYPSY song on the Tony Awards.

Ugh.

by Anonymousreply 168November 24, 2024 6:11 PM

Any word on who's replacing our favorite hustler turned broadway darling Cole Escola?

by Anonymousreply 169November 24, 2024 8:57 PM

Oh Mary: I thought I heard Melissa Mccarthy wanted to in an earlier thread? God, Bernadette Peters could be

Gypsy was really good and I can imagine sound and other tech issues being improved soon. I was pleasantly surprised as a Patti fan.

Audra sounds great and is more down to earth in the book scenes with the kids, not just a raging monster. She, in fact, sounds much better than that early tiktok clip floating around. I loved her Rose's Turn. I understand that her voice and some key changes/choices may sound odd if you want a traditional belter. My only tiny disappointment was Tulsa's scene. Tony Yazbeck really killed that in the previous version and I liked that choreography better.

by Anonymousreply 170November 24, 2024 9:36 PM

Tammy Faye was shockingly dull. Left at intermission, but I thought people were exaggerating how boring it was. The music completely left my brain, when I can usually remember some new songs at shows.

I don't understand some of the accent choices, emphasis on other evangelicals, etc. Strange book, disappointing music, it wasn't even fun bad. Brits don't always understand American religious culture and what is funny or amusing to us.

by Anonymousreply 171November 24, 2024 9:40 PM

I don’t even understand why people are obsessed with Tammy Faye. That film was bad enough.

by Anonymousreply 172November 24, 2024 9:44 PM

[quote]I don’t even understand why people are obsessed with Tammy Faye.

They clearly aren't, based on the ticket sales. The movie also only made about ten dollars, Chastain's Oscar notwithstanding.

by Anonymousreply 173November 24, 2024 9:56 PM

A friend has tickets to see Gypsy in preview this week. I am so jealous. Seeing Audra in this work? Yes please.

by Anonymousreply 174November 24, 2024 10:00 PM

R163, my two main memories of the Peters “Gypsy”. I sat next to Marilyn Horne at the invited dress (sheer coincidence; she wasn’t in my group) During the overture (which apparently the audience talks through in the Audra production), the audience was incredibly reverent, even applauding as each famous song was introduced. When the conductor got to “Small World” and the melody soars into the bridge (“We have so much in common, it’s a phenomenon…), Marilyn starting unconsciously humming along in her glorious mezzo.

The queen in front of her snapped his head around and hissed, “Shut. UP!!!” 😂

During the applause, I tapped him on the shoulder and said, “Nice going, girl… you just told Marilyn Horne to stick a sock in it.”

My other memory was Bernadette climbing onto a rickety chair to get the plaque down at the end of “Some People” and thought, “That’s a great way to kill the momentum of a number… or even the leading lady!

by Anonymousreply 175November 24, 2024 10:08 PM

[quote]Brits don't always understand American religious culture

I'm an American and I don't EVER understand American religious culture.

by Anonymousreply 176November 24, 2024 10:16 PM

R173, I meant the creators.

by Anonymousreply 177November 24, 2024 10:26 PM

Had to google Marilyn Horne.

by Anonymousreply 178November 24, 2024 10:29 PM

[quote]Had to google Marilyn Horne.

Of course you did, r178...sigh.

by Anonymousreply 179November 24, 2024 10:34 PM

[quote]I sat next to Marilyn Horne ... she wasn’t in my group)

For which she was eternally grateful

by Anonymousreply 180November 24, 2024 11:13 PM

I don't believe I've ever been to a production of GYPSY where the audience talked through the overture.

by Anonymousreply 181November 24, 2024 11:18 PM

Who talks through the Gypsy overture??? VULGARIANS! THAT'S WHO!

by Anonymousreply 182November 24, 2024 11:20 PM

^^^R180, a bitchy comment is fine if it's funny. But your comment wasn't REMOTELY funny, just bitchy, and therefore unwelcome and unnecessary.

by Anonymousreply 183November 24, 2024 11:20 PM

Seems I struck a nerve.

by Anonymousreply 184November 25, 2024 12:04 AM
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