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Seems there is a critical consensus that Paul Mescal was miscast in Gladiator 2

The Irish actor, a usually intriguing presence, doesn’t hold the screen here so much as he vanishes into its tumult. Of all the ways in which he feels miscast, the most fatal may be his utter inability to seem like someone other guys would follow to their deaths. Mescal’s career to date has been heavily delineated by women — from his breakout role in the TV adaptation of Sally Rooney’s Normal People to the part in Charlotte Wells’s debut feature Aftersun that made him a critics’ favorite — and he has excelled at playing elusive objects of longing. But he’s terrible at giving the rousing speeches that were so iconic in Gladiator and that Gladiator II, which has a clunkier script written by David Scarpa, attempts to re-create. His instinct is to underplay these moments rather than bellow theatrically, which is a problem, especially when saddled with somewhat confusing slogans like “Where we are, death is not!”

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by Anonymousreply 37December 7, 2024 5:03 PM

GLAIDIATOR!!!!

by Anonymousreply 1November 20, 2024 1:40 AM

He was cute on the red carpet at the premier with Carlos Sainz and Charles Leclerc.

by Anonymousreply 2November 20, 2024 1:41 AM

But Pedro?!

by Anonymousreply 3November 20, 2024 1:57 AM

Gladiator II, On the Rocks

by Anonymousreply 4November 20, 2024 2:09 AM

Isn't he too.....petit?.... to be a Gladiator?

by Anonymousreply 5November 20, 2024 2:21 AM

Premiere

by Anonymousreply 6November 20, 2024 2:36 AM

Is the “Our Dear Paul” troll shaking and crying?

by Anonymousreply 7November 20, 2024 2:39 AM

I need a MAN!

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by Anonymousreply 8November 20, 2024 2:55 AM

CONCITATIO ET CLAMATIO!

by Anonymousreply 9November 20, 2024 2:57 AM

Humiliating

by Anonymousreply 10November 20, 2024 2:58 AM

This has to be one of the worst marketed-to-men movies I have ever seen

There’s having

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by Anonymousreply 11November 20, 2024 3:00 AM

r11 Wtf was that

by Anonymousreply 12November 20, 2024 3:01 AM

[quote]But he’s terrible at giving the rousing speeches that were so iconic in Gladiator and that Gladiator II

Honestly the first red flag in the movie for me, which I could only stomach 20 minutes of, thanks to the clunky script you also mentioned.

Official discussion thread for this film opened earlier today on the movies subreddit and the consensus seems to be that he lacks the screen presence Crowe had – "He's a fine actor, just not a movie star." Which made me chuckle, given all the fawning over him a certain poster here has performed in the past couple of years. They did add a caveat that this is his first major role, so he might eventually settle into this whole star thingy.

by Anonymousreply 13November 22, 2024 5:40 PM

R11

Well, as is the current costum what the trailer does not reveal is that it´s actually a musical. The lyrics of the 11 o´clock number are quite suggestiv.

Oh, Macrinus, your strength pulls me near, But Marcus, oh Marcus, you drown out my fear, In this coliseum, where love feels like war, Two gladiators, but I can’t choose anymore.

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by Anonymousreply 14November 22, 2024 10:04 PM

I like movies about gladiators.

by Anonymousreply 15November 22, 2024 10:08 PM

He's no Richard Burton.

by Anonymousreply 16November 22, 2024 10:20 PM

He wasn't miscast. He just wasn't up to the part.

by Anonymousreply 17November 24, 2024 6:52 AM

He was miscast; he's too boyish.

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by Anonymousreply 18November 24, 2024 7:20 AM

Sensitive, depressed, introspective young-ish men only from now on, thanks.

by Anonymousreply 19November 24, 2024 8:02 AM

Sadiator?

by Anonymousreply 20November 24, 2024 8:08 AM

[quote] He was cute on the red carpet at the premier

Oh, dear.

by Anonymousreply 21November 24, 2024 8:31 AM

They needed a real man. Like Timothee Chalamet

by Anonymousreply 22November 24, 2024 8:38 AM
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by Anonymousreply 23November 25, 2024 12:27 PM

That does seem to be an undercurrent in the reviews, but there also seems to be a tendency to approach it as if he were supposed to be playing the Russell Crowe role rather than a different character with a different personality. (Haven't seen the movie yet, so I can't offer my own two cents.)

by Anonymousreply 24November 25, 2024 12:37 PM

He’s not that good looking. Kind of a potato face.

by Anonymousreply 25November 25, 2024 12:55 PM

[quote] But he’s terrible at giving the rousing speeches that were so iconic in Gladiator

Good point. That’s how I knew the original movie was going to be great. At the beginning Crowe commands his troops and says the line, “What we do now echoes in eternity” which is quite OTT to hear in the 21st century but he sold it.

by Anonymousreply 26November 25, 2024 1:56 PM
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by Anonymousreply 27November 25, 2024 2:18 PM

This probably should have been made a decade ago with Henry Cavill.

by Anonymousreply 28November 25, 2024 2:19 PM

Who could play it now?

Maybe Theo James? He usually comes off as a sex offender during normal romantic scenes, so I could imagine him turning his hand to epics easily.

by Anonymousreply 29December 7, 2024 10:08 AM

Alex Pettyfer

by Anonymousreply 30December 7, 2024 11:10 AM

Aaron Taylor-Johnson

by Anonymousreply 31December 7, 2024 12:37 PM

Taylor Johnson would be good.

by Anonymousreply 32December 7, 2024 1:29 PM

They should've kept Spencer Treat Clark from the first film. He is still in the industry and I hate when they recast characters.

by Anonymousreply 33December 7, 2024 1:44 PM

They propped him up with Pedro Pascal and Denzel Washington, and he sort of disappeared. Too bad. I wanted to like it. If we're considering other options for the role, we need to look at the action thriller genre. Not Gerard Butler because he is too old to do it, and he is definitely not A list, but someone like that would have been better.

by Anonymousreply 34December 7, 2024 1:54 PM

It wasn't like it was bad. At times it was like the Three Amigos and then there's this colosseum backdrop.

by Anonymousreply 35December 7, 2024 4:54 PM

r34, they all sort of "disappeared".

by Anonymousreply 36December 7, 2024 4:57 PM

Is he the one with the worm at the bottom?

by Anonymousreply 37December 7, 2024 5:03 PM
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