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The music in Wicked kind of sucks

I understand that this was a big reason why it lost the Tony.

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by Anonymousreply 36November 16, 2024 3:29 PM

I was so disappointed with the music when the OBC CD was released. I didn't even bother to go see the show after that, and I'd liked the novel a lot.

For the sake of the audience, the movie(s) should've cut any song not sung by the two leads.

by Anonymousreply 1November 15, 2024 6:37 PM

Wicked, and its fans, are the very definition of "basic".

by Anonymousreply 2November 15, 2024 6:38 PM

Mamma Mia is basic but people love the songs. They’re good songs. A musical needs to have good music.

by Anonymousreply 3November 15, 2024 7:07 PM

It’s not ALW or Les Mis…

But at least it has some good songs… “Dancing Through Life,” “Popular,” “Defying Gravity,” and “As Long As Your Mine.”

But the songs are mostly filler.

by Anonymousreply 4November 15, 2024 8:49 PM

The only songs I remember are Defying Gravity, Popular and I'm Not That Girl., which for me is the standout.

by Anonymousreply 5November 15, 2024 8:56 PM

Thank Goodness is a great sequence. What is This Feeling is a jam.

by Anonymousreply 6November 15, 2024 9:02 PM

My partner and I hated the songs so much we left at intermission. It was just screeching to discordant notes.

by Anonymousreply 7November 15, 2024 9:19 PM

That's because Stephen Schwartz is a fine lyricist, but he leaves A LOT to be desired as a composer let alone melodist.

by Anonymousreply 8November 15, 2024 10:48 PM

But his lyrics suck too.

In the clip at OP it sounds like you could replace "the Wizard" with "Jesus" and it's be indistinguishable from Christian music.

by Anonymousreply 9November 15, 2024 10:56 PM

It’s for fraus

by Anonymousreply 10November 15, 2024 11:04 PM

Wicked is the new Cats -fun to trash and an easy mark. BUT, it's not a bad show. It is a perfectly entertaining evening out, with and interesting story (way better than the boring novel). Should it have become the global phenomenon that it is? No. Just timing, I guess. All the Tween girls kept it going. And going... The score is fine. A few good songs along with workable numbers that keep the plot moving. I haven't seen or heard anything from the film beyond the trailers. I predict a flop. Not because the source material is bad, but because the crass commercial decision to milk it into two films will inevitably do a disservice to that material. There isn't enough "there" there for two, full films. A standard movie adaptation, with a new song for the Oscar nod and a lot of trimming to the score/book would work infinitely better. As it is, the length is going to point out and emphasize all of the show's flaws.

by Anonymousreply 11November 15, 2024 11:05 PM

Yes, R9, I should've qualified that. I guess I meant that, provided he has the right collaborator to spur him on, he can write very well. I'm thinking of the best of his Disney work with Alan Menken. But left to his own devices, he regresses to the most platitudinous shlock.

by Anonymousreply 12November 15, 2024 11:09 PM

I think the second film will flop. The first will do great. They are almost hiding the fact it's a two parter to the general audience.

by Anonymousreply 13November 15, 2024 11:24 PM

r13

They ARE hiding the fact that it is 2 parts... it's gonna backfire... ACt 1 is much better than act 2

by Anonymousreply 14November 15, 2024 11:33 PM

Wicked would be understandable as a two parter if it was 90 minutes

Part 1 is two and a half. hours

I think the problem is when you put someone like John M Chu in charge who has his head so far up his own ass he can't even make a passable evening out under two hours

by Anonymousreply 15November 15, 2024 11:57 PM

Wicked was completely unmemorable. The show and the music are at best mediocre. It was only elevated by Chenowith and Menzel in the original cast. I can't imagine people sitting through the movie.

by Anonymousreply 16November 16, 2024 12:09 AM

Defying Gravity is unlistenable.

by Anonymousreply 17November 16, 2024 12:11 AM

I HATED the stage production. It was torture waiting for it to end.

But, a relative I love very much is crazy about the show.

So, I'm going back to see the movie. Who knows? I might have a positive reaction to it.

The advance reviews are, well, I'm gonna use THAT word- raves.

by Anonymousreply 18November 16, 2024 2:01 AM

The only enjoyable music in the whole show is the fifteen-second "Wiz-o-Mania" sequence in the middle of "One Short Day" that's supposed to be a pastiche of music from the Golden Age of Broadway.

by Anonymousreply 19November 16, 2024 6:35 AM

Ariana Grande doing Popular...

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by Anonymousreply 20November 16, 2024 6:54 AM

I couldn't get through the book 20 yrs ago. Not sure I need this movie. Even tho Ariana Grande starved herself for it.

by Anonymousreply 21November 16, 2024 6:58 AM

I saw Wicked decades ago in LA. I have never had any yearning to see it again.

To put it the way my (a decade older and a musician) boss put it when he and his wife saw it recently: it seems like it's geared toward teenagers. And I agree with him. It's not really groundbreaking or anything I'd ever see again.

I would never pay to see this again, either in stage or movie form. Also, both leads in the film are off-putting: one is anorexic and a plastic surgery model, the other wants to make it all about her and her race.

It's a big no all around.

by Anonymousreply 22November 16, 2024 7:14 AM

I liked it ok the first time. The 2nd time the Fiery character was new to me..I just couldnt remember him from my first attendance. It is a good story. I like Changed for good and Defying gravity...I hate One fine day in the Emerald city. I guess i love the conection to The Wizard of Oz movie that i hold dear to my heart. But ive always advised friends to go see a different show unless they familiarised themselves with Wickeds music first. Its not great on first listen. But the movie looks lavish and fun and it will bring me back to the cinema for the first time since covid.

by Anonymousreply 23November 16, 2024 8:01 AM

I did not like "Wicked," the musical on Broadway. It seemed like show written for 12-year old girls.

I don't plan to see the movie.

by Anonymousreply 24November 16, 2024 8:27 AM

I don't recall when I saw the show on Broadway, but it was after Chenowith and Menzel left.

I remember liking the opening number, but it became increasingly excruciating as the show went on.

It got to the point that I had to bolt at intermission.

I can't imagine sitting through a movie version.

by Anonymousreply 25November 16, 2024 12:03 PM

that little music clip proves she has no range....it was dreadful

by Anonymousreply 26November 16, 2024 1:08 PM

The music sucks and with Auto-tune it will be even worse

by Anonymousreply 27November 16, 2024 1:15 PM

I suppose if it winds up on some streaming service I already pay for, I'll watch it.

by Anonymousreply 28November 16, 2024 1:21 PM

I didn’t really understand the show. If TWWOTW is just misunderstood not evil, why was she such a cunt to Dorothy?

by Anonymousreply 29November 16, 2024 1:23 PM

[quote]Even tho Ariana Grande starved herself for it.

It's not like she was a healthy weight before.

by Anonymousreply 30November 16, 2024 1:38 PM

[quote] It’s not ALW or Les Mis

Turning over in our graves

by Anonymousreply 31November 16, 2024 1:40 PM

R29 she killed her sister, stole her belongings and wouldn’t give them back

by Anonymousreply 32November 16, 2024 1:45 PM

It famously lost the Tony to Avenue Q which was far more inventive and staged a serious underdog campaign. I agree that the music isn’t very good. They gave the musical a fairy tale ending which is fine I guess but overall the book was far more interesting (and weird) although I’ll admit it lost steam toward the end.

by Anonymousreply 33November 16, 2024 1:52 PM

A good showtune for me is one that can translate easily to other styles.

This is Wicked's shop stopper for me. Less range, more emotion please.

Cynthia Erivo performed I Couldn't Be Happier at this concert. Mario Cantone performed Wonderful and Gavin Creel (RIP xx) performed As Long As You're Mine. The annoying tranny from Glee did Popular.

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by Anonymousreply 34November 16, 2024 1:59 PM

Sorry, that blows

by Anonymousreply 35November 16, 2024 2:04 PM

The two leads have been showing up at every event possible over the past year wearing pink and green. I’m so sick of seeing them and the film hasn't even come out yet.

by Anonymousreply 36November 16, 2024 3:29 PM
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