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California and New York are projected to lose up to 8 electoral votes in 2030. Texas and Florida are projected to gain 8

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by Anonymousreply 13November 14, 2024 11:21 PM

That’s it. When I go to London next summer I am not coming back. Do they put you in prison in the UK before they deport you?

by Anonymousreply 1November 14, 2024 9:39 PM

That’s why the Hispanic vote is so important. Dems can not lose that group or they’re done.

by Anonymousreply 2November 14, 2024 9:39 PM

Birds of a feather, stupid loves stupid. MERIKA

by Anonymousreply 3November 14, 2024 9:43 PM

Merica - you in danger gurl...

by Anonymousreply 4November 14, 2024 9:45 PM

That article is all BS if you fallow the source. It's all just based on a guess from census dated, which if you read the whole thing, notes that most of the growth in those states will be people of color. Which usually vote Democrat. Also points out it's kind of a false reading since house in those states is excepted to get very expensive with interest rants and therefore people wont be moving as much.

by Anonymousreply 5November 14, 2024 9:59 PM

I don't know about NY but one of the untold stories people outside CA don't know is that the tax on home ownership is some of the lowest in the country, less than 1%.

More importantly, once you buy a house, your tax rates is locked in for the life of the ownership. It never goes up until you sell. That's not true in most of the country. so if the value of your house goes from 500,000 to 1,500.000 over time, in most of America you have to pony up tax on over 1 million every year.

by Anonymousreply 6November 14, 2024 10:03 PM

R6 That’s very true. It makes up for payroll taxes being so fucking high. Lawd.

by Anonymousreply 7November 14, 2024 10:07 PM

Of COURSE DL bitches are having a full-on meltdown for no reason. R5 is correct: this is all bullshit, and all based on "projections" that fail to account for things like, say, a mass exodus out of Florida by the end of the decade because it's both ruinously expensive and, well, ruinous, namely via hurricanes. The "Silicon Valley exodus" to Miami is already reversing, as is also the case for Wall Street assholes who moved there.

That said, both Florida and Texas are already among the priciest American housing markets, due in significant part to the huge influxes of people. The MEDIAN household income in Austin is now around $120,000 a year, and this is in a state capital with over 150,000 poorly paid state bureaucrats. Finally, to quote directly from the article:

"According to the American Redistricting Project, New York will lose three seats and Illinois will lose two, while Republican-dominated Texas and Florida will gain four additional representatives EACH if current trends continue." Since The Atlantic seems to be resorting to clickbait to draw readers, they only briefly mention that the American Redistricting Project is "conservative," without noting that it also serves flat-out propaganda.

by Anonymousreply 8November 14, 2024 10:08 PM

That’s why I’m actively disengaging from American media. None of it it is to be trusted right now, sadly. We’ve lost so very much.

by Anonymousreply 9November 14, 2024 10:11 PM

[quote]I don't know about NY but one of the untold stories people outside CA don't know is that the tax on home ownership is some of the lowest in the country, less than 1%.

R6, that's not only *not* untold; it's the primary REASON California real estate is so absurdly pricey. Proposition 13 primarily helps geezers who've had the same home since the '70s, the problem with that notion being that it totally fucks first-time homebuyers. If people refuse to move because of favorable property-tax status, that means fewer homes for sale or rent and starkly higher housing prices. And to be clear, California HANDILY has the highest home prices in America. Yes, NYC is pricier, but it's a single city, not an entire unaffordable STATE.

I know killing the proposition is political suicide, but the unfortunate reality is that it CAUSES far more problems than it fixes. Look no further than million-dollar tract houses in Riverside County that require a four-hour roundtrip commute into L.A. each day as evidence.

I know "the road to hell is paved with good intentions" is a cliche, but this is nonetheless a textbook example of it.

by Anonymousreply 10November 14, 2024 10:16 PM

r6 You are full of shit. Property taxes are at least 1.25% in most counties, and your taxes ALWAYS go up every year. It's just that there's a limit on how much they can go up.

by Anonymousreply 11November 14, 2024 11:08 PM

OP This, provided there is still going to be voting of any kind by 2030.

by Anonymousreply 12November 14, 2024 11:11 PM

R12 is a smart man.

by Anonymousreply 13November 14, 2024 11:21 PM
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