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My Husband And His Family Voted For Trump — So I'm Canceling Thanksgiving And Christmas

I knew he voted red. He knew I voted blue. I had hoped the most capable and most inclusive candidate would win. He hoped his idea of a better America would win. He won, and, from where I stand, America lost.

In the aftermath of Tuesday night’s results, still under the bed covers Wednesday morning, I scrolled social media looking for hope. I unfriended a few short-sighted FB friends— no need to continue our digital relationships and witness their selfishness and hate. Then I saw my husband’s post.

“God Bless America. God bless #45, 47.”

It had a few likes, and a few commenters joined him in his celebration. He was downstairs in the kitchen making coffee, and I was upstairs avoiding him. I couldn’t talk to him — or even look at him.

I immediately texted, “I love you, but out of respect for me and all my liberal writer friends, can you please take down that post? Also, tell your family I love them, but I will not be coming for Thanksgiving, and I won’t be hosting Christmas. I need space.”

Shortly after I sent the text, he brought me a cup of coffee in bed.

“I am sorry,” he said, “I understand.”

Did he? Did he really understand what he and so many others in this country had done? I could not forgive him. Not right now.

I spent most of the morning doom-scrolling next to the cold cup of coffee I ignored partially because I was distracted, primarily out of spite. I finally got up, made the bed, went outside into the beautiful sunny day, took a few deep breaths, and then went back upstairs to unmake the bed and spend the remainder of the day in it.

He went to work — I assumed energized by Trump’s victory.

The next day, I finally emerged and listened to Kamala’s concession speech. She reminded us, “Only when it’s dark enough can you see the stars.”

I wrote to my artist friends and told them to keep shining their lights. I wrote to my musician son in college and his songwriter girlfriend. I told them to keep creating. I wrote to my young nieces, who were terrified, and told them I was there for them. I wrote to my beautiful gay cousin and said I loved him and was thinking of him and his partner.

I kept writing.

I received a message from a family member who told me her Ukrainian friend was petrified. Another message came in from an actor friend who said she was afraid that the damage that will be done in the next four years could never be undone. One of my sisters wrote and said she had a panic attack and had to leave work. One of my students rescheduled our afternoon appointment saying she just couldn’t function.

Later that night, I briefly glanced at my husband and found myself not wanting to look into the eyes I love. I hated this divide. I wanted to touch his forearms and feel our connection, but I also felt an urge to punish him and deny him my touch.

“I am sorry about the holidays, but I cannot bite my tongue like I did with Hillary,” I told him. “I don’t want to disrespect your parents or your brother and his family in their home, or our home, so it’s best this way. No scenes. You can go see them. Seriously — I will not be in a room of 15 people who voted for Trump.”

He mentioned our son and his girlfriend, who are coming home for Christmas.

“Will they feel bad?” he asked.

Bad? I think they already feel bad. Really bad, I thought. Instead, I said, “We will have our own small holiday, and it will be fine.”

Will it be fine? I have wondered that since 2016, when I saw my husband’s stubbornness. How could a Latino vote for Trump? How can any of his family members vote for him? Haven’t they believed any of Trump’s comments about immigration? Aren’t they worried about the reproductive safety of the young women and girls in our family? Aren’t they worried about all of the other nightmares that could be headed our way?

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by Anonymousreply 212November 27, 2024 5:27 PM

I was surprised he didn’t argue about the change in holiday plans. Normally, it would be a bone of contention because of how close he is to his family. Somewhere inside, he must understand what this election outcome means to me. I know he has empathy for me, for which I am thankful. I will hold onto this like a life raft as I try to figure out how we move forward with our marriage.

[quote] I know he is a good man and he would do anything for a family member or friend, which makes what he has done even more infuriating and even more painful.

But I will not give thanks and hold hands in a circle with people who voted for a party that wants to take rights away from LGBTQ people. I will not pass the turkey to someone who supports people who have signaled they will cause harm to people with disabilities and the elderly. I will not sit by a Christmas tree celebrating the birth of Jesus and sipping eggnog when I know how many people may now find themselves in grave — even deadly — danger because they cannot get the reproductive care they need. I will not unwrap gifts given to me by people who voted for a party that has talked about building internment camps and mass deportation.

I will keep encouraging my friends and family to continue to hope and fight for this country. I don’t know how or when I can greet my husband in the morning with my usual hug when I wrap my arms around his strong shoulders, smell the intoxicating scent of his spicy cologne and smile, knowing we are one. We are now two, and it is agonizing. Still, I know he is a good man and he would do anything for a family member or friend, which makes what he has done even more infuriating and even more painful.

by Anonymousreply 1November 13, 2024 4:45 PM

Amen, sister.

Cancel EVERYTHING.

Fuck Trump and everyone who voted for him.

by Anonymousreply 2November 13, 2024 4:46 PM

Time to cancel that marriage--or at the very least, no sex for the next 4+ years.

by Anonymousreply 3November 13, 2024 4:50 PM

I can’t imagine being married to someone who voted for Trump.

by Anonymousreply 4November 13, 2024 4:53 PM

I’d tell him to go spend time with his precious MAGA friends and family for the holidays. Then I’d change the locks while he is at dinner and start divorce proceedings.

How can you be married to someone who is at best willfully ignorant, and at worst, a hateful Nazi?

Fuck him AND his KKK loving family.

by Anonymousreply 5November 13, 2024 4:53 PM

It's this and a whole lot of other things that convinced the rest of the country the left is too unstable to govern.

by Anonymousreply 6November 13, 2024 4:54 PM

Husband had probably been an asshole since they met. There were signs. Let me guess— Trump voter is the breadwinner?

by Anonymousreply 7November 13, 2024 4:54 PM

MAGAts need to feel the full weight of consequences--no love and no rest for supporters of fascism. For the next 4 years and beyond.

by Anonymousreply 8November 13, 2024 4:55 PM

It's sad enough for me to have an aunt and uncle and cousins who voted for Trump, I can't imagine having a husband who voted for him.

by Anonymousreply 9November 13, 2024 4:55 PM

Obsessed with his family plus voted Trump = husband is Latino.

by Anonymousreply 10November 13, 2024 4:56 PM

Teacake is a woman writing for HuffPo?

by Anonymousreply 11November 13, 2024 4:59 PM

[quote] He mentioned our son and his girlfriend, who are coming home for Christmas.

[quote] “Will they feel bad?” he asked.

[quote] Bad? I think they already feel bad. Really bad, I thought. Instead, I said, “We will have our own small holiday, and it will be fine.”

That would be funny if the son told his mom that he was going to join his dad and the MAGA family at Thanksgiving and Christmas.

She would have a total meltdown.

But it's totally plausible, considering that GenZ voted for Trump in large numbers.

by Anonymousreply 12November 13, 2024 5:00 PM

Why would that be funny, R12?

by Anonymousreply 13November 13, 2024 5:02 PM

I'd refuse him all sexual contact unless he had a lovely big horny cock. But yea, don't cook or clean for him. Fucker.

by Anonymousreply 14November 13, 2024 5:04 PM

Getting pleasure from the fears and dread of others, R12? You're an asshole.

by Anonymousreply 15November 13, 2024 5:06 PM

I hope they divorce so they can both find partners for which they are better suited.

by Anonymousreply 16November 13, 2024 5:07 PM

R12=MAGAt. Block.

by Anonymousreply 17November 13, 2024 5:09 PM

he should stop paying her bills since she voted for Kamala.

by Anonymousreply 18November 13, 2024 5:09 PM

R18 is a dumb MAGAt cunt who thinks the wife couldn't possibly have a job or pay her own bills. Blocked.

by Anonymousreply 19November 13, 2024 5:17 PM

If he's bringing her coffee in bed, he cares about her. She should definitely institute a "no sex" policy. That will kill him.

by Anonymousreply 20November 13, 2024 5:25 PM

he probably poisoned this coffee.

by Anonymousreply 21November 13, 2024 5:26 PM

day after day there are girls at the office

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by Anonymousreply 22November 13, 2024 5:28 PM

These should be her New Rules:

No sex for the next 4 years

No holiday get-togethers with his family for the next 4+ years, including birthdays, etc.

by Anonymousreply 23November 13, 2024 5:29 PM

She's a drama queen and probably a narcissist. Sorry, but that's the truth. If she can't stand his politics to this degree ok,,fine, then they shouldn't be together. All this dramatic BS about Christmas and Thanksgiving cancelling is a waste of both of their lives, as well as the children's and the rest of the family.

by Anonymousreply 24November 13, 2024 5:29 PM

I think taking a break from family under these circumstances is fine. A year will probably make a lot difference. If you believe he is what he is, it would be hard to stomach right now while those who voted for him justify their decision or celebrate. A year from now, there's going to buyer's remorse underway.

That said, MARY!

by Anonymousreply 25November 13, 2024 5:31 PM

R24, what part of the seriousness of this country's situation can you not comprehend? This isn't just politics. Make them feel the weight of their actions. She's not being a drama queen at all. The only way to make MAGAts suffer is to withhold everything they love getting and are used to. Now fuck off.

by Anonymousreply 26November 13, 2024 5:34 PM

Awesome. I am sure her husband and his family will have a quite, nice peacefull TG now.

by Anonymousreply 27November 13, 2024 5:36 PM

No, you fuck off, r26. Divorce if you feel that way about pain and shit. This is just wasting everyone's time because he will only end up resenting her anyway. There is no future to this marriage if that's how she actually feels. That's fine. But just end it, none of this dramatic shit.

by Anonymousreply 28November 13, 2024 5:37 PM

the day he leaves her she'll be crying "WHY WHY WHY I DON'T UNDERSTAND"!

by Anonymousreply 29November 13, 2024 5:39 PM

R28 is an idiot who thinks she should just go along with it all for the sake of "family." That horse has left the stable, bitch.

And, R27, would he happy with no sex forever? Maybe he can fuck someone in his family in the meantime.

Uh-uh. Actions have consequences.

by Anonymousreply 30November 13, 2024 5:42 PM

Everytime I see these tantrum posts I just laugh at how the person is actually doing the person they are cutting out a huge favor. If they truly wanted to punish MAGA, make sure you spend TG and Christmas all day berating them hysterically and crying, if posssible worse than you probably do. now THAT would actually punishment.

by Anonymousreply 31November 13, 2024 5:42 PM

R27 I am sure he'd get a divorce and fuck one of the other women who voted for Trump, who were a larger group than the ones that voted for Harris.

by Anonymousreply 32November 13, 2024 5:44 PM

And they'll never know the turkey is undercooked until it's too late.

by Anonymousreply 33November 13, 2024 5:44 PM

r30, your reading skills are too terrible to be calling anyone an idiot. I literally said she should divorce him if she feels that strongly about this matter. What she is doing is just wasting everybody's time and energy including her own.

by Anonymousreply 34November 13, 2024 5:44 PM

[quote] And they'll never know the turkey is undercooked until it's too late.

That's actually the best idea.

She should have attended TG and just poisoned them all.

Problem solved!

by Anonymousreply 35November 13, 2024 5:47 PM

MAGAt Central here. Blocking.

By the way, this is just the beginning of the war, you stupid cunts. And wait until the tariffs kick in and inflation is sky-high, and they get rid of the ACA, and they gut Social Security and Medicare and women are bleeding out everywhere. Just watch and wait for those fun times, morons.

by Anonymousreply 36November 13, 2024 5:47 PM

"that wants to take rights away from LGBTQ people"

Like what rights?

by Anonymousreply 37November 13, 2024 5:48 PM

[quote] What she is doing is just wasting everybody's time and energy including her own.

Why are you assuming she's wasting her time, R34? This is very positive for her. How is it wasting time not to go to a Thanksgiving dinner? You don't seem to understand the meaning of wasting time. She's using her time to respond to what se feels is intolerable.

by Anonymousreply 38November 13, 2024 5:50 PM

Like same-sex marriage, R37? Heard of it?

by Anonymousreply 39November 13, 2024 5:50 PM

[quote]My Husband And His Family Voted For Trump — So I'm Canceling Thanksgiving And Christmas

Wow, for all of us?

by Anonymousreply 40November 13, 2024 5:53 PM

Telling you--no sex is the ticket.

by Anonymousreply 41November 13, 2024 5:54 PM

She's the one who hosts Christmas, so it's actually saving her time.

And she has real family--her own. Her son, cousins. Friends. She doesn't need to indulge the MAGAts.

by Anonymousreply 42November 13, 2024 6:12 PM

She's wasting her life with him if she feels that way. That's the point. It's not saving her anything. But some would rather be drama queens and narcissists.

by Anonymousreply 43November 13, 2024 6:26 PM

R43 seems to think you're being a drama queen if the very next day, after that horrible election, and after your own husband is trumpeting it on Facebook, you have a raw response to it all. Fuck outta here.

by Anonymousreply 44November 13, 2024 6:29 PM

[QUOTE] Will it be fine? I have wondered that since 2016, when I saw my husband’s stubbornness. How could a Latino vote for Trump? How can any of his family members vote for him?

Well, Rip Van Winkle, these Latino people are not our friends. Too bad you're a day late and dollar short on figuring that out.

I live in Florida and these people just come milling into formerly quiet neighborhoods in large numbers, they don't respect any social norms, they are rude and their egos and pride in the island they abandoned are sky high. 10+ people living in a three bedroom house, 6 cars per house, loud noise, people coming and going from said house at all hours. A lot of liberals try to be understanding and kind to them at first but eventually everyone here gets fed up with the Latinos eventually.

Also a lot of them like to suck up welfare benefits but I was not surprised at all to see them turn around and vote for MAGA and bite the hand that feeds them. And I don't know why anyone who has dealt with them would be shocked at this?

by Anonymousreply 45November 13, 2024 6:32 PM

I expect that people will have a knee jerk acceptance of anything and everything she stated, but can you seriously not see how self-absorbed she is? She’s Beth Jarrett, come to life, only seeing how things affect her and proud of it. She talks about what she needs and never about what he and his family needs. She’s glad he has empathy for her, but she expresses no empathy for him. It’s a one-sided relationship. Plus, even the Pope is less holier-than-thou than she is. How can she appoint herself as being so morally superior to other humans?

by Anonymousreply 46November 13, 2024 6:35 PM

I don't believe a word of this treacle linked in OP.

by Anonymousreply 47November 13, 2024 6:36 PM

You know they're all having head-shaking "shame about Mom" conversations, and that it's tinged with relief about the estrangement because she's been this exhausting for years and years.

by Anonymousreply 48November 13, 2024 6:38 PM

Democrats got majorly stabbed in the back by Latinos or as the republicans have always called them spics and cockaroaches!

All those food drives and fights for fair housing against Republicans. It seems like a dream now 😴

by Anonymousreply 49November 13, 2024 6:39 PM

R48, her son isn't part of the MAGAt crew on her husband's side. Reading retention is not one of your strengths.

by Anonymousreply 50November 13, 2024 6:40 PM

The Latinos will find out exactly how MAGA feels about them... the hard way.

So will the Muslims in Michigan.

And what's really going to surprise them is when no Democrats come to their aid. Nope, not this time.

by Anonymousreply 51November 13, 2024 6:43 PM

[quote] I expect that people will have a knee jerk acceptance of anything and everything she stated, but can you seriously not see how self-absorbed she is?

Bullshit.

This woman expressed perfectly, how many of us were (and probably still are) feeling, the day after the election.

Anyone who cares for this country know exactly what she's talking about.

YOU are the selfish cunt, R46.

by Anonymousreply 52November 13, 2024 6:43 PM

[quote] And what's really going to surprise them is when no Democrats come to their aid. Nope, not this time.

I hope that's the case, R51. In the meantime, retaliation begins at home.

by Anonymousreply 53November 13, 2024 6:45 PM

I just canceled my Christmas plans.

Last night I was talking to my friend who I was planning on staying with. He more or less told me, without saying it directly, that he voted for Trump. Even if he had not, he was defending him and told me I was overreacting.

After I got off the phone with him, I canceled my flight. Thankfully, I booked a refundable ticket.

by Anonymousreply 54November 13, 2024 6:48 PM

[quote] I expect that people will have a knee jerk acceptance of anything and everything she stated, but can you seriously not see how self-absorbed she is? She’s Beth Jarrett, come to life, only seeing how things affect her and proud of it.

And the off the charts virtue signaling. This is the kind of person that has become part and parcel of the Democrats and helped us lose the elections by alienating everyone who's not as "noble, considerate, sensitive and aware" as us.

by Anonymousreply 55November 13, 2024 6:49 PM

Fantastic. Well done, R54. They want friendship AND Dump? Uh-uh. Cancel the friendship as well.

by Anonymousreply 56November 13, 2024 6:50 PM

Awwww, R55. Call it virtue signaling or whatever you like. If enough people do it, the MAGAts in their lives will feel it.

by Anonymousreply 57November 13, 2024 6:51 PM

[quote] Democrats and helped us lose the elections by alienating everyone who's not as "noble, considerate, sensitive and aware" as us.

News flash, R55--it wasn't like any degree of listening or engaging or "trying to understand" the MAGAts has ever made a difference. If you don't realize that by now, you're asleep.

by Anonymousreply 58November 13, 2024 6:53 PM

Yeah, it could be fiction, r47. Guess the joke is on all of us arguing over it if that's the case.

by Anonymousreply 59November 13, 2024 6:53 PM

The MAGAT's don't give a shit about being rejected and they're not going to start voting Democratic because a few friends won't talk to them anymore. In fact, the more people alienate them the more they will dig in their heels and continue to vote red.

by Anonymousreply 60November 13, 2024 6:53 PM

Virtue signaling is talking about other people's problems as if they were your own. Being scared of a Trump administration is not virtue signaling.

by Anonymousreply 61November 13, 2024 6:54 PM

She's virtue signaling to us.

by Anonymousreply 62November 13, 2024 6:54 PM

We'll have to put a pin in this story and return to see how things are going for the family of Latinos in 6 months or a year. How will the father's family of MAGAts feel when one of theirs is disappeared, and only weeks later do they find out he's been denaturalized and deported to some South American country where he knows no one, doesn't speak the language, and has no money? How will Daddy react when it's his mother, his grandfather, his kid who's been "separated"? His friends? Him?

The MAGAts aren't going to ask questions first. They aren't going to listen to the pleas. Logic, facts and reason are foreign concepts to MAGAts, and they have no time for it. I'd tell any Latino to start carrying their papers, but the MAGAts aren't going to ask for them, and they certainly won't look at them. But don't worry, the new Congress will pass laws making it legal to deport first and ask questions later, to give total immunity to the thug force Shitler is creating, and to prevent any accountability at all.

We tried to tell them. Like Churchill said, Americans will do the right thing after exhausting all other possibilities, and we have a long, long way to go before we get to anything resembling the good, honorable and decent thing.

by Anonymousreply 63November 13, 2024 6:55 PM

[quote] In fact, the more people alienate them the more they will dig in their heels and continue to vote red.

They will anyway, R60. Alienate away.

by Anonymousreply 64November 13, 2024 6:57 PM

[quote] We'll have to put a pin in this story and return to see how things are going for the family of Latinos in 6 months or a year. How will the father's family of MAGAts feel when one of theirs is disappeared, and only weeks later do they find out he's been denaturalized and deported to some South American country where he knows no one, doesn't speak the language, and has no money? How will Daddy react when it's his mother, his grandfather, his kid who's been "separated"? His friends? Him?

The election had caused you to lose your mind, assuming you were possibly normal before.

by Anonymousreply 65November 13, 2024 7:00 PM

Best to say nothing, silently plot revenge (a phone call to ICE for starters), and laugh at the blowback.

by Anonymousreply 66November 13, 2024 7:00 PM

Democrats made a huge mistake in thinking these people are our allies. When you import the Third World, you become the Third World eventually. "We are a nation of immigrants" my ass!

by Anonymousreply 67November 13, 2024 7:07 PM

Trump will still be President but you’ve denied the family a happy holiday.Can’t you not talk politics at the dinner table.

by Anonymousreply 68November 13, 2024 7:16 PM

I found her Facebook. Her husband isn’t attractive enough to make up for this. But it seems like he’s got money, so there’s that.

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by Anonymousreply 69November 13, 2024 7:17 PM

[QUOTE] We'll have to put a pin in this story and return to see how things are going for the family of Latinos in 6 months or a year. How will the father's family of MAGAts feel when one of theirs is disappeared, and only weeks later do they find out he's been denaturalized and deported to some South American country where he knows no one, doesn't speak the language, and has no money? How will Daddy react when it's his mother, his grandfather, his kid who's been "separated"? His friends? Him?

Well Jonathan Alter has offered to allow them to hide them in his attic. 🙄 Personally I will not be providing them a place to hide in my home.

by Anonymousreply 70November 13, 2024 7:19 PM

Who fucks MAGA cultists? I would rather masturbate. Sorry, this woman picked a piss poor partner.

by Anonymousreply 71November 13, 2024 7:21 PM

The Far Left is determined to makes us believe we're in the Third Reich.

by Anonymousreply 72November 13, 2024 7:22 PM

Give it time, dearie

by Anonymousreply 73November 13, 2024 7:25 PM

[quote] Trump will still be President but you’ve denied the family a happy holiday.

Oh, no, R68! Denying the family a "happy holiday" while the country goes to shit all around us. The ACA will be cancelled and Social Security will be gutted and women will be bleeding out, but Happy Thanksgiving, everybody!

How ridiculous.

by Anonymousreply 74November 13, 2024 7:25 PM

Meanwhile, R72, all of Dump's policies and plans read like what, exactly? Please explain.

by Anonymousreply 75November 13, 2024 7:26 PM

R72 only sees the left as extreme, not the right, apparently. She'll soon find out otherwise, if she still has doubts about how serious this new regime is.

by Anonymousreply 76November 13, 2024 7:28 PM

Change the locks.

by Anonymousreply 77November 13, 2024 7:29 PM

Looks like she teaches around Santa Barbara, so the likelihood that her husband is of Mexican descent is pretty high.

Personally, I would be hesitant to get married to a Latino because they take that family stuff WAY TOO FAR. Every fucking weekend, every holiday - always together and then they get offended if you don't show up.

Her husband disrespected her and is minimizing her feelings. She has every right to not want to go to the Latino side frequent get-togethers all the time.

Reminder, those family events are why Latinos spread COVID so damn much in their communities and to others. They couldn't isolate.

I'm on her side - she needs a good 6 month break.

by Anonymousreply 78November 13, 2024 7:40 PM

R78, she needs a good 4-year break. Six months is the time when Dump will just be getting started.

by Anonymousreply 79November 13, 2024 7:44 PM

It amuses me that foolish people here think this is just about politics when we're staring down an autocracy. It's only politics when people have rights. Ask a woman if it's mere "politics" that she doesn't have autonomy over her own body?

Ah, but think of the family at Christmas!

by Anonymousreply 80November 13, 2024 7:49 PM

[quote] But some would rather be drama queens and narcissists.

You have no fucking clue what a narcissist is.

But I truly hope you find out.

Truly. 😄

by Anonymousreply 81November 13, 2024 7:51 PM

Don't worry, R81--they will find out!

by Anonymousreply 82November 13, 2024 7:52 PM

toxic femininity

by Anonymousreply 83November 13, 2024 7:55 PM

[quote]Looks like she teaches around Santa Barbara, so the likelihood that her husband is of Mexican descent is pretty high.

If they're in California, neither vote made any difference in the outcome. Same goes for any other state if it's not a swing state.

But I agree with her principles.

by Anonymousreply 84November 13, 2024 7:56 PM

I love how its the fault of liberal women who voted for Kamala that Trump won and not, you know, Trump voter's fault.

"Look what you made me do!!!!"

It's the logic of a wife beater.

by Anonymousreply 85November 13, 2024 7:58 PM

[quote] It's the logic of a wife beater.

The logic of a wife beater is that it’s cooler on a hot day and it shows off the shoulders.

by Anonymousreply 86November 13, 2024 8:02 PM

[quote] Her husband disrespected her and is minimizing her feelings.

Meanwhile, she disrespected her husband and minimized his feelings. That’s irrefutable.

by Anonymousreply 87November 13, 2024 8:04 PM

[quoyte] Creeping on his phone

Boy, you really are stupid, R88, She wasn't on his phone. Maybe go back to the 4th grade and learn how to read.

by Anonymousreply 89November 13, 2024 8:11 PM

R88 is a troll. Block and move on.

by Anonymousreply 90November 13, 2024 8:14 PM

I’m sure she’s thrilled. No obnoxious holidays around his insufferable, obnoxious family, who no doubt scream, threaten and manipulate 24/7, ruining every holiday with their tempers and ignorant garbage talk.

She’s going to see how nice it is to be away from this shit and she won’t want to go back. Ever.

Meanwhile, he couldn’t do a load of laundry if you put the clothes in the drum, added the soap and told him to push “Start.”

Good luck, MAGATS.

by Anonymousreply 91November 13, 2024 8:15 PM

R88 is already blocked. Trash.

by Anonymousreply 92November 13, 2024 8:17 PM

Some of you don’t see that the Trump voters don’t want your friendship/love either. It works both ways. As if your hyper dramatic antics would be missed at a MAGA get together! They will miss your husband though and secretly, to your chagrin, he will miss them too.

Berate him for that!

Get a divorce, OP. If you can afford it. All those years together apparently meant nothing to you.

In 4 years when Trump is gone, your husband will still be gone too.

by Anonymousreply 93November 13, 2024 8:24 PM

[quote] Some of you don’t see that the Trump voters don’t want your friendship/love either.

Can we get it in writing?

by Anonymousreply 94November 13, 2024 8:28 PM

Very odd article. Did she really not know her husband was voting for Trump and that his family was MAGA until the election? That said I cannot be friends with a modern Republican never mind married to one. Some might say I’m being too dramatic. Wait 4 years and tell me the same. 4 time indicted, twice impeached bigot and grifter for decades. I don’t know which is worse, Trump and his acolytes or those who voted for him. Cannot people see a vile wreck of a man looking right at them? What the hell is wrong with them? How did so many get so out of touch?

by Anonymousreply 95November 13, 2024 8:29 PM

[quote] Some of you don’t see that the Trump voters don’t want your friendship/love either.

We're talking about family, friends, as in the case of this woman, R93. And her husband truly does seem to care how she feels. So there goes your theory that it's all casual, impersonal third-hand or fourth-hand relationships.

And good. Nothing reaches them but the bitch-slap of a spouse, a child, a sibling.

by Anonymousreply 96November 13, 2024 8:29 PM

[quote] In 4 years when Trump is gone, your husband will still be gone too.

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by Anonymousreply 97November 13, 2024 8:32 PM

He might be gone--might--but the effects of him will last longer than any of the rest of us. Another reason to cut ties now.

by Anonymousreply 98November 13, 2024 8:34 PM

As someone who suffered through fight-filled Latino holidays for decades, she’s going to be so thrilled to have a peaceful, relaxing celebration devoid of yelling, aggression and Cluster B control issues, both aggressive and passive aggressive.

She secretly knows this. That’s why she suggested it.

Call it a catastrophic election, but she’s been waiting for this opportunity to escape for years.

by Anonymousreply 99November 13, 2024 8:38 PM

[quote] Call it a catastrophic election, but she’s been waiting for this opportunity to escape for years.

I hope so, and I hope she further wises up and divorces him.

by Anonymousreply 100November 13, 2024 8:44 PM

“I like his policies!” 🤡 🙄

by Anonymousreply 101November 13, 2024 8:45 PM

Btw, if anyone read further, the husband never took down his Facebook post after she asked him to. Something as simple as that, and he wouldn't respect her request. He's a piece of shit. She's a fool if she stays with him.

by Anonymousreply 102November 13, 2024 8:54 PM

These couples are very common in Santa Barbara/LA.

Flighty, under-employed white woman with barky, know-it-all yet uneducated and rather stupid Latino man.

by Anonymousreply 103November 13, 2024 10:36 PM

I think it's time we move the general election to early summer. It's too close to the major holidays.

by Anonymousreply 104November 13, 2024 10:40 PM

“ Some of you don’t see that the Trump voters don’t want your friendship/love either.”

Wrong. Many of them do especially the guys. There are tiktok videos all over the place now with young maga guys complaining that they have to lie now about who they voted for in order to get a date. And how they dont wanna be stuck w just conservative women in their dating pool.

by Anonymousreply 105November 13, 2024 10:56 PM

Dateless and fuckless--poor stupid MAGAt men. Reduced to lying to get some pussy because MAGAt twat is so stank. So, yeah, MAGAts DO care about what the smart, decent world thinks about them. No reason to pretend otherwise. Bury them socially as the pariahs they are.

by Anonymousreply 106November 13, 2024 11:17 PM

Is the son hot?

by Anonymousreply 107November 14, 2024 12:24 AM

Sure, Jan.

by Anonymousreply 108November 14, 2024 12:55 AM

She better divorce him now while she can. Republiqans are getting rid of no fault divorce and they’re fine with wife abuse.

by Anonymousreply 109November 14, 2024 1:13 AM

Sure, Jan what, R108?

by Anonymousreply 110November 14, 2024 1:22 AM

You should be banned, R69. Doxing is never acceptable.

by Anonymousreply 111November 14, 2024 1:41 AM

What about the doxing truck?

by Anonymousreply 112November 14, 2024 2:13 AM

Her full name is on the article, and she has a Facebook account that is public, she posts about her articles and such there.

I did mot post a link to her Facebook page or her husband’s page.

She publicly posted that picture. That is mot doxing. I used the internet to research someone; something her inlaws apparently didn’t do with Dump.

by Anonymousreply 113November 14, 2024 2:23 AM

That's when you open the window and start throwing all his belongings out onto the lawn.

by Anonymousreply 114November 14, 2024 2:30 AM

Let’s be conservative and bitter…

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by Anonymousreply 115November 14, 2024 2:32 AM

Apparently I can’t spell words with the letter N:

It’s NOT not MOT

by Anonymousreply 116November 14, 2024 2:34 AM

You got my vote OP

by Anonymousreply 117November 14, 2024 2:50 AM

[quote]Did she really not know her husband was voting for Trump and that his family was MAGA until the election?

It's exhausting trying to convert a conservative. It only seems to run one way, liberal-->conservative. Anyway, everyone was counting on his loss so no huge deal. We can all move on. The alternative to us/me was unthinkable so we didn't.

by Anonymousreply 118November 14, 2024 2:56 AM

r115, the people pictured are perpetually bitter, but they are not conservative.

by Anonymousreply 119November 14, 2024 2:57 AM

Moral of the story: If you’re female and you don’t have anything in common with the guy, don’t get married. Get an ABORTION. The end.

by Anonymousreply 120November 14, 2024 2:59 AM

[quote]It's exhausting trying to convert a conservative. It only seems to run one way, liberal-->conservative.

What about Cheney, Kinzinger, Kristol, etc.? Whatever they were, their allegiance is to the Democrats now.

by Anonymousreply 121November 14, 2024 3:09 AM

Thanks, R69.

I just gave you a WW.

DOXXX that Mexican MAGAT.

And I hope R111 Dies in a Thanksgiving Day GREASE FIRE with his other MAGAT CUNT FACE CUNTARD CUNTS!!!!!

FUCK ALL MAGATS!!!

DOXXXX ALL MAGATS!!!!

And R111 can also choke on a Thanksgiving Day turkey bone, you fucking rancid stinking filthy MAGAT CUNT!!!!

by Anonymousreply 122November 14, 2024 7:48 AM

I’ve got a better idea. Why don’t you save it for next time, hug.

by Anonymousreply 123November 14, 2024 7:58 AM

to me, her behavior is extremely selfish, childish and self-centered... what would she say to him if her party had won?... it's like she feels as though her choice was the morally "better" or "superior" choice, thereby implying that his choice was somehow less-than or subservient to hers... how would she feel if he behaved in the same childish manner as her, had her party won... IMO, the best way to handle such a situation is to, after an election, put all political stuff aside and appreciate the good of each other and move on...

by Anonymousreply 124November 14, 2024 10:53 AM

[quote] it's like she feels as though her choice was the morally "better" or "superior" choice, thereby implying that his choice was somehow less-than or subservient to hers

It was, R124. Let's cut the fiction that this was a normal election with candidates remotely similar in abilities, intentions, and morality. It wasn't. This wasn't Gore vs Bush or Romney vs Obama. This goes beyond politics. It's time you and everyone else woke the fuck up to that fact. You can keep telling yourself this was just another election. It was not. And you're going to see in real time just what we'll be losing.

Either that, or you think Dump in office is just fine. Maybe you even voted for him. That would explain your ridiculously blase attitude.

by Anonymousreply 125November 14, 2024 1:40 PM

she should simply dump his ass

by Anonymousreply 126November 14, 2024 1:52 PM

If MAGAts don't want liberals around and aren't interested in us, why do they watch movies and television programs, that we star in and wrote? Why do they listen to music we created and sing? Why do they wear clothes we designed? Why do they send us friend requests? Why are they trying to force us (liberals) to go to church, stay in unhappy marriages (str8s), have unwanted babies, not be with those we love (gays/les)?

If anyone has little interest in the lives of the other, it's not conservatives. They are all up in our business.

All. In. Everyone's. Business.

by Anonymousreply 127November 14, 2024 2:19 PM

She should entertain the family and make hilarious comments about the people Trump is picking for his cabinet. She needs to lighten up and stop pretending she’s a member of the French resistance fighting the Gestapo. Or get a divorce.

by Anonymousreply 128November 14, 2024 2:23 PM

[quote] She needs to lighten up

Get back to us on the "lighten up" part of all this, once Dump gets going, R128. If you think making jokes about his clown cabinet is the answer, you're as dumb as you type.

by Anonymousreply 129November 14, 2024 2:44 PM

[quote]it's like she feels as though her choice was the morally "better" or "superior" choice,

BECAUSE IT WAS, IDIOT!

What is wrong with you?

by Anonymousreply 130November 14, 2024 2:47 PM

[quote] She should entertain the family and make hilarious comments

Miss R128 thinks she's a party planner, dispensing her pearls of wisdom to keep the holidays bouncing along!

by Anonymousreply 131November 14, 2024 2:47 PM

[quote]it's like she feels as though her choice was the morally "better" or "superior" choice

It WAS, you blind stupid fuck.

by Anonymousreply 132November 14, 2024 3:10 PM

Considering some of the idiot responses here, of the "what's the big deal, why can't she just get along with her family, it's just politics" variety, it's not hard to see how Dump got back in. The lackadaisical attitude combined with ignorance for the perilous situation we're in explains a lot about how we got to where we are.

[quote] She needs to lighten up and stop pretending she’s a member of the French resistance fighting the Gestapo.

While you're making light of the fact that she's presenting herself as a martyr, R128, let's just take just one very important issue that will affect the entire country in only 7 years' time, and consider that Social Security is going to go insolvent 3 years earlier than they warn it will if northing is done to save it. This is because Dump is going to enact a cut in taxes on Social Security payments, the taxes of which go back into Social Security for future beneficiaries. The same with his plan to cut taxes on tips and overtime. That means no revenue to keep SS alive, and that means, if you bother to pay attention, a 30% cut in Social Security benefits across the board. Right now, the average beneficiary gets around $1,900 a month. A 30% cut will means that $1,900 a month will go down to $1,300. This will kill the average SS recipient.

Don't take my word for it. This bipartisan watchdog group, Committee For A Responsible FederaL Budget, lays it all out, while you pooh-pooh the dangers of this new administration.

Instead of making stupid analogies to Nazis, look at real information staring you in the face. Her virtue signaling aside, this is a dire point we've arrived at.

MAGAts have no idea what they--and we--are in for due to their stupid, selfish decision to vote this demagogic moron back into office.

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by Anonymousreply 133November 14, 2024 3:19 PM

there comes a time when you have to pick the hill to die on. I think this qualifies. It's a new world, a new era. You are either with maga world policies or against them. No in-betweens. Akin to living in Nazi occupied France and being 'nice' to the Germans. Accept them, yes, tolerate them, no.

by Anonymousreply 134November 14, 2024 3:29 PM

The MAGA world now includes almost 50% of Latinos and white women. He increased ihis support significantly with first time voters and young black males. A solid blue state like NJ is showing signs of turning purple. Despising people that voted for him and refusing to listen to their concerns is hysterical and self defeating.

by Anonymousreply 135November 14, 2024 3:39 PM

But when her hubby voted for Trump in 2016, she was chill with it? I mean, why only now is this woman waking up to the reality of who she is married to? Was she living the last eight years in a Chardonnay haze? Why wasn't she upset the first time around? The whole thing is weird. Makes me wonder if SHE voted for Trump in 2016 and had an epiphany about him that her husband never had.

by Anonymousreply 136November 14, 2024 3:40 PM

[quote] Despising people that voted for him and refusing to listen to their concerns is hysterical and self defeating.

And what's your answer, R135--trying to "understand" them? Or juyst go along with them? Do tell--I'd love to hear what "kumbaya" suggestion you have.

by Anonymousreply 137November 14, 2024 3:43 PM

R133, that would be an excellent way to protest the tax bill. Let them explain why we will have to take 30% less while billionaires get tax breaks.

by Anonymousreply 138November 14, 2024 3:44 PM

Since when has listening to them helped anything, F135?

by Anonymousreply 139November 14, 2024 3:44 PM

That was for R135, of course.

by Anonymousreply 140November 14, 2024 3:44 PM

R134 It's not the same. You cannot construct a system of two valid democratic parties and claim everyone who doesn't want to opt for option 1 is a fascist. If your parents say "He*l H*tler!" to each other, then yes, break contact. Otherwise, I think it's short-sighted. They have a certain perception of the world that led them to vote as they did. Maybe find out more about that - just as you had your reasons to vote blue, founded on a specific view of the world shaped by your bubble and beliefs. How you see the world should give ample material to talk about. Who anyone voted for is a symptom, not the cause, and it shouldn't be a cause for a decision as radical as this one. No, Trump isn't Hitler. You devalue the suffering of millions if you claim he is.

by Anonymousreply 141November 14, 2024 3:44 PM

[quote] Maybe find out more about that - just as you had your reasons to vote blue, founded on a specific view of the world shaped by your bubble and beliefs.

And will that save Social Security for them (and us), R141? When half the country gets completely false information from Fox news and will listen to nothing else, what then? when people are woefully or wrongfully informed and will not hear anything else, then what? I'd love to hear what you think can be done with thee people.

by Anonymousreply 142November 14, 2024 3:49 PM

[quote] Despising people that voted for him and refusing to listen to their concerns is hysterical and self defeating.

Well then I guess I'm hysterical and self defeating.

Because I DO despise them. With every fiber of my being.

Trump voters make me sick to my stomach.

I will never befriend them, and I will never accept them.

They could all drop dead today, and it wouldn't matter one bit to me.

That's how much I despise these fucking MAGATS.

by Anonymousreply 143November 14, 2024 3:50 PM

[quote] just as you had your reasons to vote blue, founded on a specific view of the world shaped by your bubble and beliefs.

I didn't vote shaped by living in a bubble, R141. I voted based on things like the warnings about Social Security. It's those who don't pay attention to that who are living in a bubble.

by Anonymousreply 144November 14, 2024 3:53 PM

Still waiting to hear from R141 about how we can "reach" the people who don't want to be reached.

by Anonymousreply 145November 14, 2024 3:55 PM

[qupte]No, Trump isn't Hitler

He wants the same unchecked, absolute power that Hitler had. What he will do with it, time will tell. But he does NOT like being told no.

by Anonymousreply 146November 14, 2024 4:20 PM

R136 Just what I was wondering.

She knew her husband and his family were Trumpers but only when Trump won is she rattled? Before the election did she think her husband's embrace of a sleezy, morally corrupt rapist was quaint? I couldn't care less about her problem, quite frankly. Write again when you divorce this kind, caring, reactionary twat and I'll contribute to your GoFundMe page. (Living in Santa Barbara you'll need it).

There's a type of Trump voter that I find just as deplorable as the openly racist, violent Maga thugs and that would be the husband in the OP's scenario. This type is reasonable, caring, and grotesquely incurious about anything outside their precious family.

by Anonymousreply 147November 14, 2024 4:23 PM

Trump likes dictators like Putin and Orman and Erdogan and Kim Jong-un. He speaks and vows to run this country like a demagogue. It doesn't make him Hitler. It makes him his own demagogue. There's nothing remotely democratic about him.

When are people here going to stop saying not to compare him to Hitler, BUT do look at his own autocratic words and tendencies? Because he has them, and stop pretending he doesn't.

by Anonymousreply 148November 14, 2024 4:25 PM

Reddit has ESTs, too.

by Anonymousreply 149November 14, 2024 4:25 PM

[quote] She knew her husband and his family were Trumpers but only when Trump won is she rattled?

I'm sure she thought that sanity would prevail.

For those of us who didn't vote for Trump, we knew what was at stake.

We also thought that others would realize the threat, and vote accordingly.

I was sure that Americans would do the right thing.

I was wrong. So was she.

by Anonymousreply 150November 14, 2024 4:45 PM

Geez, R122, you'll feel a lot better after removing that rotting, oozing long-forgotten tampon from your neglected twat. Change it and get some help while on the "Ignore" ward, freak.

Enjoy your Thanksgiving buzzard dinner with your carrion relatives.

by Anonymousreply 151November 14, 2024 6:29 PM

What a ham.

Was she cradling her mug, as tears steamed down her face?

by Anonymousreply 152November 14, 2024 6:36 PM

Forget her, R152. Do you see the bigger picture beyond her in all this?

by Anonymousreply 153November 14, 2024 7:10 PM

No! There's a bigger picture?!?!!?

Is it a Thomas Kinkade?

by Anonymousreply 154November 14, 2024 7:14 PM

No, R154, everything is just fine, as you'll find out.

by Anonymousreply 155November 14, 2024 7:16 PM

[quote] When half the country gets completely false information from Fox news and will listen to nothing else, what then? when people are woefully or wrongfully informed and will not hear anything else, then what? I'd love to hear what you think can be done with thee people.

R142 You think the information you have is correct - which it probably isn't, either. Assume you are wrong 20 % of the time and the other maybe 50 %, then you might be getting somewhere. You already assume they won't listen. I still think it's wrong to paint people who may have been supportive of you a whole lifetime and have shown their qualities as human beings in many ways as literally the devil just because their view of the world is different. (If the parents have always been assholes, this doesn't apply.) The two-party system and the habit of discussing who you voted for is breaking the US. We're being purposefully divided by people who want to capitalize on the divide. See what you have in common, which is mostly: you want the best for the future.

by Anonymousreply 156November 14, 2024 11:30 PM

R156, I seek out information, not opinion, and information has to do with facts, and facts can be proven. So no, I just don't assume something is true, as I believe in, among others, fact checking. Also, getting information from different sources. But it's not any cable news, unless it's to entertain myself over something. And really, spare me your presumption of the percentage of accuracy I'm deriving from my news sources.

As for the topic of this thread--namely cutting people off--I've said from the beginning it's an individual choice but one for which desperate times call for hard choices. And it isn;t even such a hard choice.

I would agree with you that the habit of discussing who you voted for, while not breaking the US, creates a toxic atmosphere, but that's all of social media. And yes, we're absolutely being divided. But the answer is not to go about business as usual during the holidays, and when it comes to drawing the line in the sand--a point we have reached, I believe--then you do just that.

by Anonymousreply 157November 14, 2024 11:42 PM

Cutting people off might be kinder. Growing up, ny parents oppressed me with Christian ideology - there was nothing worse than swearing, sex, and selfishness. I was shamed constantly for these.

And yet, when Donald Trump shows up, they were 100% on board. I gritted my teeth and visited then on a disciplined schedule. But I could never get over the fact that the rules they used to grind me down were lifted for a billionaire who shits on a gold toilet.

My dad is now dead, and my mom is lucky to remember what happened a day ago. My regret is that I stayed engaged.

by Anonymousreply 158November 14, 2024 11:59 PM

Thanks, R158, for sharing the regret in NOT cutting ties. It's a refreshing perspective on the drivel being espoused here.

by Anonymousreply 159November 15, 2024 12:03 AM

OP, if your that upset, divorce your husband. You're acting like a spoiler brat !!!!

by Anonymousreply 160November 15, 2024 12:05 AM

R160, OP is quoting from an article from HuffPo. JFC.

by Anonymousreply 161November 15, 2024 12:06 AM

Jesus....y'all are falling for that ridiculously overwrought and badly written phony "article" from HuffPo.

by Anonymousreply 162November 15, 2024 12:38 AM

Oh, look--Eve Arden at R162 just walked into the party.

by Anonymousreply 163November 15, 2024 12:40 AM

R163 That's the sweetest thing anyone has ever said to me on the DL!!!

Thank YOU!

by Anonymousreply 164November 15, 2024 12:42 AM

Sure! Now, toddle off to the bar, toots R164.

by Anonymousreply 165November 15, 2024 12:46 AM

You're name dropping Eve Arden and you're trying to age shame me?

Really, gurl?

by Anonymousreply 166November 15, 2024 12:52 AM

Not at all, R166. Age is a virtue. And you're right--Eve Arden is the highest compliment I could pay you, though I might be slighting Eve a little bit in the comparison. 😘

by Anonymousreply 167November 15, 2024 12:55 AM

ouch!

by Anonymousreply 168November 15, 2024 1:01 AM

I can see cutting off siblings, cousins or friends, but cutting off aging parents is an extremely difficult proposition as they probably need your support in their twilight years. It's a moral dilemma to abandon your parents since they raised and supported you all your formative years.

by Anonymousreply 169November 15, 2024 2:42 AM

Define "raise" and "support," R169, but as much as I've advocated severing ties, that's a personal decision. Old, infirm Trumper parents? That's again, a personal call. Most family, not being chosen but merely being blood, are easily dispensible. I suppose a firm sit-down and explication of terms of what one will tolerate is another way, but I'm all for quick and lethal removal of one's life.

by Anonymousreply 170November 15, 2024 2:59 AM

*from one's life.

(You won't miss them.)

by Anonymousreply 171November 15, 2024 3:00 AM

I don't speak to one of my own brothers and he's a Democrat (he fucked over our father and us). Trust me: not that hard.

by Anonymousreply 172November 15, 2024 3:02 AM

Canceling out someone because of who they voted for is like those people who won't speak to homosexuals because of who they kiss, ignoring the 1.5 billion other things that make up a human being. I believe this has to do more with your own insecurities and immaturity than values.

by Anonymousreply 173November 15, 2024 7:41 PM

That's your opinion, R173. But thanks for the virtue signaling.

by Anonymousreply 174November 15, 2024 10:31 PM

I haven't felt the need to cancel anyone, I just don't engage.

by Anonymousreply 175November 15, 2024 10:35 PM

[quote]It's a moral dilemma to abandon your parents since they raised and supported you all your formative years.

Sometimes your parents were super shitty, and then also later vote for Trump. I was the one upthread who's dad died and my last action towards him was to block him on my phone after an argument about Trump. I will feel conflicted about that last gesture the rest of my life, but I also have compassion for myself because he was such a bad father. Obviously, had I known that would be my literal parting shot, I would have made his final weeks pleasant. His death was sudden. It's a horrible situation for any middle-aged child of Trump voters to be in. You know your parents are in there twilight years and you don't want to rock their boats, but you also can feel disgusted by their stupidity.

I'm an only child so the stakes feel that much higher. It's just a shit position to be in. I ended up calling my Trumpy mom after my dad died. We'd been semi-estranged since the 2020 election when she was ranting about "stolen election." But I will not have her life end with me, her only child, having blocked her. But man, it is not satisfying to be in this position.

I would say, unless they are really old, punch and delete. Your literal parents though, consider that they may die while you are putting them in a time out, and be willing to be okay with that.

by Anonymousreply 176November 15, 2024 10:48 PM

*Sorry not upthread, different thread.

by Anonymousreply 177November 15, 2024 10:49 PM

Thanks, R176. It's alway good to hear from someone who's lived it and not just from some sanctimonious blowhard.

by Anonymousreply 178November 15, 2024 10:57 PM

When shitty parents die, the grief you feel is the death of possibility—not the death of the parent.

You mourn the fact that now you’ll never have that living relationship with them. The possibility no longer exists.

But, the reality is you were never going to have that anyway. So don’t mourn the loss of possibility too deeply.

by Anonymousreply 179November 15, 2024 11:11 PM

[quote] When shitty parents die, the grief you feel is the death of possibility—not the death of the parent.

Maybe for you, or for whoever you copied it from off Instagram or Facebook, but it wasn’t that way for me. My grief was suddenly being an orphan and no longer having a living parent on this earth, for the first time in my life. It had nothing to do with any possibility of anything being different in the future.

Not having a living parent was a source of grief regardless of how shitty they were. Friends, acquaintances, coworkers, you can always replace. Your actual parents are the only actual parents you’ll have and when they’re gone, they’re gone. It’s akin to losing a part of your body that doesn’t grow back.

by Anonymousreply 180November 15, 2024 11:34 PM

R179 my former IPF meditation teacher referred to this as the "terrible sadness", but it's not connected to the death of your traumatizing parents. Certainly not if you work your way through it before their deaths.

I had CPTSD, my dad had some form of narcissism and my mom something akin to BPD. My mom is now in memory care for Alzheimer's, my dad is now still somewhere on the NPD spectrum, but because I've worked my way through the attachment and conditioning stuff over the years, my experience is very different, like caring for a child

by Anonymousreply 181November 15, 2024 11:44 PM

R162 through R167 is the funniest elderqueen bitch fight that I've seen on Datalounge in ages.

Now THAT is old school cuntery!

RRRRRREEEEOOOOWWWWRRR!!!

Congrats, girls!

by Anonymousreply 182November 16, 2024 12:34 AM

[quote]I had CPTSD, my dad had some form of narcissism and my mom something akin to BPD.

Jesus, same as me, at R176. C-PTSD, Narc dad, BPD mom, all of it. May the force be with you, R181. I feel your pain. It's a whole thang.

by Anonymousreply 183November 16, 2024 12:51 AM

[quote]Not having a living parent was a source of grief regardless of how shitty they were. Friends, acquaintances, coworkers, you can always replace. Your actual parents are the only actual parents you’ll have and when they’re gone, they’re gone. It’s akin to losing a part of your body that doesn’t grow back.

R180 I agree. I had such a painful relationship with my father but he's the only fucking father I had or will ever have, and he's gone, and it was very sudden and shocking. And I cannot believe I sent that last incredibly nasty text to him, a 76 year old bigoted Trumpy ex-alcoholic guy, but also weirdly smart, funny, and giving. He was 76, what is he supposed to do at this point with my petulance? I'm fucking 51, my angry inner child came out but in his mind, like, we are grownups and the past is the past. And he is the only dad I will ever have in this life, and now he is gone. That's why I say, be SUPER SURE you are serious about cutting your actual parent out of your life over Trump.

by Anonymousreply 184November 16, 2024 12:57 AM

R174 I see you learned something from your idol Trump. When somebody accuses you of something you turn around and accuse them of the same thing back.

by Anonymousreply 185November 16, 2024 1:17 AM

My "idol Trump," R185? Is that supposed to hit me where I live? YOU sound a little Trumpy yourself.

by Anonymousreply 186November 16, 2024 1:56 AM

[quote]Not having a living parent was a source of grief regardless of how shitty they were.

I find that to be masochistic and extremely irrational.

by Anonymousreply 187November 16, 2024 2:41 AM

“Not having a living parent was a source of grief regardless of how shitty they were.”

Not for me. Alcoholic father and very abusive mother. Mother died first and I was so relieved to not have the burden of that relationship. Not having her in this world brought some peace. Both were gone by the time I was 39.

I had holidays alone and holidays working. I made friends into family wherever I went. Then, I made a family.

by Anonymousreply 188November 16, 2024 3:29 AM

My family is pretty divided politically but we all love each other. I don't agree with the politics some of them have but unlike alot of other idiots I don't see that the "right kind of politics" makes you a better person, nor bad politics, bad. I know liberal pieces of shit and conservative people that are good. This is how I think most families are though...regardless of how a few idiots on social media are portraying it.

by Anonymousreply 189November 16, 2024 5:09 PM

All my life I've had family and friends and coworkers from all types of political persuasions. MAGA however is the modern day version of NAZI. It is hateful, illogical, undemocratic and should have no business in a a liberal society like the US.

by Anonymousreply 190November 16, 2024 5:51 PM

It's very sad how politics has destroyed us all. Either side you are on, there will be pain and loss. I think for the Dems though, it's more painful. I never could have imagined this as a youngster waiting for the new Duran Duran video or the new Tears For Fears video on MTV. Life seemed so simple then. This is a very, very hard time in our country's history. Also, though, I should say that I do remember crying in second grade under a tree with my little friend Donna about what if we die in a nuclear war? (Reagan Era) So I guess we are always on the brink of destruction but we have moments of disremembering.

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by Anonymousreply 191November 16, 2024 7:34 PM

Lol it's really not. In 2003 republicans were ok with bombing countries and killing children under the guise of "Weapons of Mass Destruction" all to make a buck...but sure, Trump and Trump supporters are the worst of the worst. R190

by Anonymousreply 192November 16, 2024 8:10 PM

R191 In the 1960s the Republican party leader understood that allowing themselves to be associated with the John Birch Society and the racism will devour the party and perhaps the country. So they kicked them the hell out. After Obama was elected in 2008, the neo version of the John Birch Society emerged, The Tea Party. And Trump who was already fanning birtherism and Obama's legitimacy emerged to spread more overt racism and hate. Trump and MAGA did not emerge into a vacuum, he appropriated the emerging fanaticism and culture that already existed. It needed someone who was shameless and willing to vomit endless lies every day. There were several off-ramps that would have ended Trump. The Senate convicting Trump after the House impeachment in January 2021 would have made him unable to run for a second term. Merrick Garland's unwillingness to prosecute Trump in a timely manner, willfully slow walking the case against him for over 2 years all but guaranteed Trump could run.

by Anonymousreply 193November 17, 2024 2:42 AM

I wonder if she changed her mind?

by Anonymousreply 194November 26, 2024 1:00 PM

I wouldn’t

by Anonymousreply 195November 26, 2024 1:07 PM

Which year were you born R191? I think we are similar ages. I'm 1969.

by Anonymousreply 196November 26, 2024 1:22 PM

R196, I wouldn't brag about being anything like R191.

The false equalities, apron wringing, willful naïveté, over-simplification, and misuse of the term "politics" for a union-tearing fascist revolution are unhelpful and lazy.

by Anonymousreply 197November 26, 2024 2:21 PM

I understand that Chrissy Metz is cankling Thanksgiving this year.

by Anonymousreply 198November 26, 2024 2:28 PM

same here, it's a dread I recall from being young, but a very different flavor. the eighties really sucked in so many ways. the whole "Greed is good" mentality has never gone away. but today's america believes "hate is good" which is even worse

by Anonymousreply 199November 26, 2024 2:30 PM

[quote] It's very sad how politics has destroyed us all. Either side you are on, there will be pain and loss. I think for the Dems though, it's more painful. I never could have imagined this as a youngster waiting for the new Duran Duran video or the new Tears For Fears video on MTV.

You couldn’t imagine it after the 49 state loss in 1984?

by Anonymousreply 200November 26, 2024 5:00 PM

[quote] the eighties really sucked in so many ways. the whole "Greed is good" mentality has never gone away. but today's america believes "hate is good" which is even worse

Interestingly, Donald Trump was the epitome of the "Greed is Good" YUPPIE of the 1980s.

And now he is the founder of the "Hate is Good" MAGA of the 2020s.

People don't realize is, but he has been a steady part of the American Consciousness for nearly FIFTY YEARS!!

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by Anonymousreply 201November 26, 2024 6:51 PM

This woman did the right thing.

Make all MAGATS SUFFER for their stupidity!

by Anonymousreply 202November 26, 2024 10:12 PM

Congratulations and by the way trump has an anus mouth-don’t forget…

by Anonymousreply 203November 26, 2024 10:16 PM

What's she going to do when she has real problems? None of this is real. Our whole system is bullshit. Calm down, y'all. Fix a drink.

by Anonymousreply 204November 26, 2024 10:28 PM

Haha— right, punish them all by denying them your wonderful presence . Chances are, they won’t miss you at all and will gleefully trash your angry ass behind your back.

Next, watch them cancel YOU if you ever, in some emergency, need their help and support for anything.

And I guess not a penny from them in their wills for you either when they finally die off— not that you would take any of their tainted MAGA $. You’re FAR too high-minded for that.

by Anonymousreply 205November 26, 2024 10:39 PM

R205, did someone just recently drop you? You sound very butt-hurt and angry, sweetie.

by Anonymousreply 206November 26, 2024 11:25 PM

She has every right to avoid their presence. They will probably gloat and make sly remarks about how "things will change."

Latinos voting for Trump is the same as uneducated whites voting for Trump. They have sown the wind, let them reap the whirlwind.

BTW, I am sure her hubby's family will be trashing and mocking her behind her back. The husband is already embiding her anguish and will drink her liberal tears. Is abuela undocumented and collecting SSI? Most are.

She should have pretended it was no big deal.

by Anonymousreply 207November 27, 2024 12:17 AM

R205 is clearly a MAGAT.

by Anonymousreply 208November 27, 2024 12:59 AM

You're a nelly queen with no balls OP.

by Anonymousreply 209November 27, 2024 1:10 AM

Poor R205 — so many people are waiting for him to die. Threatening to remove the relatives from the will is his only influence over them.

by Anonymousreply 210November 27, 2024 4:34 AM

Has a betting market emerged?

by Anonymousreply 211November 27, 2024 5:37 AM

Dummy R209, OP isn't the woman in the article.

by Anonymousreply 212November 27, 2024 5:27 PM
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