King Charles III Was Outwitted by Prince Andrew in the Battle for Royal Lodge

[quote] Prince Andrew found a way to maintain his lifestyle

[quote] He will no longer receive public funds

[quote] “Prince Andrew’s money has been approved .... as coming from legitimate sources.”

That would be hilarious if Harry and Meghan were loaning him the money.

That vixen, Andy!

Nobody ever underestimated the brainpower in the BRF.

The world's richest welfare family

It’s a gift from the estate of Jeffrey Epstein.

I thought I read that friends of his, and of his daughters, were paying high prices to stay there when visiting the area or the UK. He's basically turned it into an Airbnb.

It doesn't matter HOW he got the money.

The point is that he got the money.

I'm sure it's William pushing this from behind the scenes, because he wants Royal Lodge for HIS family.

Still, Charles should just shut the fuck up already, and leave it alone.

You'd think that someone with terminal cancer would have bigger problems to deal with, than kicking his younger brother out of his rightful home.

Let it be, and let William deal with it later.

The Duke and Duchess of Windsor would be proud, r5.

Title into money was pretty much the game.

If he could afford to stay all along, why was he taking money from Charles? Greedy piggy.

Oh, brother, R6. First of all, you don't know if Charles's cancer is terminal. Second, he's the fucking king. It's hard to imagine the Queen "losing" to one of her subjects (as all are under the monarch, even the family). I don't understand how being the fucking head of state doesn't trump any bratty whining and wheedling from his sex offender brother about where he wants to shack up.

Of course he always has the upper hand, really. He knows every time anybody is talking about Prince Andrew, the BRF is losing. The entire goal should be to let everybody forget Andrew's existence, and Charles should know that.

[quote] It doesn't matter HOW he got the money.

Yes, it DOES matter, R6.

The problem is that Andrew has an ironclad, multi-decade lease (for another 70 years) that would be very difficult to break him out of, even by the King. As long as he has legitimate funds to cover operating costs, to the minimal standard of the Privy Purse, he can stay on. Apparently this is the case, for now.

He seems determined to stay on. If that's the case there's little to be done about it, the family should just carry on. William is perfectly fine at Adelaide Cottage.

Whoah.

PA made out pretty good.

Q E II paid the $25,000,000 Guiffree settlement out of her personal funds. She probably left him even more when she died not wanting to leave him at the mercy of KC, AND, he has a seemingly ironclad lease on Royal Lodge.

For the right amount of money, however, there is no such thig as ironclad.

Most people his age want to downsize so I'm guessing, giving what he was stripped of because of the Epstein thing, he doesn't want to let go of Royal Lodge. Even the name gives him something to hold on to.

[quote] he's the fucking king. It's hard to imagine the Queen "losing" to one of her subjects

Except that this "subject" is his younger brother, with whom he has always been very competitive.

Elizabeth never had to deal with a younger brother, so she could always keep her younger sister Margaret in line.

But Andrew and Charles are both males, both competitive, and both strong willed.

This is more than just King versus Subject. This is sibling rivalry.

The same dynamic is shared by William and Harry, which is why there is so much bad blood between them.

Boys will be boys.

I’m pretty sure that, in the end, a king trumps a duke in a fake monarchy.

[quote] Boys will be boys.

For the most part

Sometimes, girls will be boys, if you catch my drift.

[quote] Sometimes, girls will be boys, if you catch my drift.

And vice-versa.

Of course if Elizabeth had a younger brother she wouldn't have been Queen Elizabeth.

At least not immediately.

Guess who’s getting ready to launch an OnlyFans in the very near future?!?!?!?!?!?!?

The Air BNB theory is interesting but I don't think it would pull the kind of income he would need to cover monthly expenses. I wonder where the cash is coming from. Maybe this will be exposed, "anonymously".

What moron keeps linking to SHEKNOWS?

Brits haven't been 'subjects' for about forty years.

How very dare you r24!!!

He tried to take your house?!?!

And yet, R24, they have a king and queen, so that makes the British what--citizenry? Do tell us who don't have royalty in their country.

Just where the fuck this non-working royal's income is coming from is very goddamn relevant, and it shouldn't be allowed to be hidden.

The Royal Lodge needs a lot of work which Andrew was neglecting and the reason Charles wanted him out of there. If Andrew got some shady sheik to put up the money well, that reflects badly on Andrew if word gets out.

I doubt William wants to move there. The aforementioned work and renovating the interior would take at least a year or two and by then Charles could be dead.

R27 The word 'subject' was done away with in the early 80s.

So, R30, how did the queen and how do the king refer to the people they represent? By what noun?

We are 'citizens', not 'subjects'. It was a big deal when they changed over as old passports said 'subject' and newer ones said 'citizen'.

[quote] If Andrew got some shady sheik to put up the money well, that reflects badly on Andrew if word gets out.

I guess it depends what the shady sheik got in return. If it's just some stupid invitations to some stupid damn thing, well the people of Britain might even be grateful that some silly Arab fixed up a royal residence at no expense to themselves.

So, I was right.

The king would never say, "My fellow citizens..." No ceremonial head of state (i.e., any royalty) is a mere citizen.

R35 Who said he would? We haven't used the word 'subjects' since the early 80s. That's all I've said. We're citizens, not subjects. My passport says 'citizen'. It's not difficult to understand.

No offense meant, R36. I'm just commenting on the very idea of royalty anywhere.

[quote] He tried to take your house?!?!

[quote] —Kim Richards

Actually Kim, it's "You stole my goddamned house!"

You should know that, since YOU said it.

Poor Charles can't win.

Mummy knew the score and understood what could happen to the apple of her eye, Andrew, once she was gone. It’s completely feasible that the Queen established a trust which, while not funding Andrew directly since she knew what a spendthrift he and Fergie are, covers the cost of running Royal Lodge and meeting Andrew’s contractual obligations in the lease she gave him. Once Andrew dies the principal goes back into the larger family trust and it’s just as if Andrew never got an extra slice of the family pie.

Andrew IS Kim Richards.

I want paparazzi photos of him dragging a shit stained pillow through an airport.

R40 Do you spend your entire day making things up? You're a weird fantasist.

People like to fantasize and then speak as if it's fact. It's the era we're living in.

R42, I’m not sure why you chose my suggestion of how ostensibly broke Andrew can afford the costs of staying at Royal Lodge when others here have floated theories in this thread involving Andrew running an AirBnB or being funded by Arab sheiks.

Honestly, mine seems most likely. We know he was the Queen’s favorite child, we know she understood the personalities of her two oldest sons and their feelings about each other, we know she had plenty of money and established multiple trusts for various groups in her family before her death, and we know she wanted Andrew to have Royal Lodge for as long as he wanted it.

R44 the test of the world is quite sure. That’s on you🫵🏼

rest^

R44 is the most dishonest DL post I’ve read…since SurvivingAngel last tried to educate us on the US political system.

R27 Actually R27, you got it right. There are no subject anymore. They are citizens of the UK. Im not sure how, why or when this change was made, but it was made. 👑🇬🇧🤴🫅💰

R48, I can only assume referring to the citizens as "subjects" was eventually seen as tacky, especially when taking money from them.

R40 sounds plausible to me.

R44 is severely mentally ill.

King Charles is said to be taking matters into his own hands as his eviction war with Prince Andrew deepens.

"King Charles has finally lost patience with Prince Andrew digging his heels in, [becoming] a prisoner of his own pride," Fordwich claimed. "King Charles is beyond frustrated with Prince Andrew. Their relationship is strained, described by friends as ‘guarded’ and mainly Machiavellian – ‘Better to keep one’s friends close and one’s enemies closer.’"

Fordwich’s statement came after royal biographer Robert Hardman claimed that the king was considering stripping valuable items from the lavish home due to security concerns.

"The Royal Collection, which owns quite a lot of the treasures inside there, may say, ‘Well, we can’t be confident that this place is safe anymore,’ and they’ll start taking the paintings and some of the furniture away," Hardman claimed on the "Palace Confidential" podcast.

"The king is very conscious that [Royal Lodge] is not entirely in his gift," said Hardman. "It’s a Crown Estate property and the Crown Estate ultimately answers to the government."

The Sunday Times reported that Andrew raised enough money to live in Royal Lodge. The estate is worth a reported $38 million.

According to the outlet, the 64-year-old’s funds were approved by the Keeper of the Privy Purse as coming from legitimate sources.

The outlet also reported that the prince and the king aren’t on speaking terms. It’s unclear whether Andrew will make an appearance at Sandringham this year to celebrate Christmas with the rest of the royal family.

"There is no doubt that King Charles wants Prince Andrew out of Royal Lodge," said royal expert Richard Fitzwilliams. "There is equally no doubt that Andrew is determined not to leave. So long as he fulfills the provisions of his lease, which requires the upkeep of the building, it isn’t possible to evict him."

"The monarch has reportedly cut his annual allowance and removed his 10-person security team," Fitzwilliams shared. "However, it has also been reported that Andrew has discovered a cheaper way to fund his security. What may now happen, however, is that the Royal Collection could remove some of its treasures from Royal Lodge on the pretext of inadequate security."

According to reports, he has spent over $9 million on repairs and renovations and $1 million to take it over. His annual rent is a reported $337,000. The property requires an estimated $503,000 annually for upkeep.

"Prince Andrew has a tight lease in place for his home," British broadcaster and photographer Helena Chard claimed. "He can continue living in his home as long as he fulfills the lease."

"Despite King Charles cutting off Prince Andrew's financial allowance, Andrew has secured financial help… this will cover his rent, security and upkeep of the now crumbling property," Chard claimed.

"As long as this is maintained, and the property is made good and kept in a good state of repair, I can't see that Prince Andrew can be chucked out of his home. King Charles doesn't have the power to do this. It is in the government's hands."

Sources previously told The Sunday Times the king was "losing patience" over his brother’s living arrangements and was "at his wit’s end."

According to the outlet, the king, 76, didn’t renew the contract for the 64-year-old's private security team. The monarch has been paying for Andrew’s security after the prince lost his police protection in 2022. The security team is said to cost Charles nearly $4 million annually.

It was reported that the duke, who is "at the brink of eviction," was expected to downsize due to his ties to late convicted sex offender Jeffrey Epstein.

"There will always be the worry that Prince Andrew could quickly fall on financial hard times and go down the same path as Prince Harry and Meghan Markle by writing a memoir or appearing in a damaging documentary," Chard claimed. "But I don't believe he will do this for the sake of his daughters."

Charles was also outwitted by Savile.

[quote]It’s completely feasible that the Queen established a trust which, while not funding Andrew directly since she knew what a spendthrift he and Fergie are, covers the cost of running Royal Lodge and meeting Andrew’s contractual obligations in the lease she gave him.

While this is probably what happened, I'd be stunned if Charles didn't know about this if it were. Could something like this be kept secret from him?

Hard to believe he outwitted Charles and his advisors. Andrew just seems like a buffoon. Maybe one of Andrew's daughters got the money from their husband. One is a billionaire according to what I've read.

Where di you read that, R55? One is a marketing manager for a tequila company and Portuguese time share rep and other is a property developer but hardly in the billionaire range.

Why is this thread grayed out?

[quote]One is a marketing manager for a tequila company and Portuguese time share rep and other is a property developer but hardly in the billionaire range.

Of all the things wrong with the BRF, this is actually the biggest sign that they've truly fallen.

There was a time when a royal princess could have found herself a very wealthy husband purely for the social clout she provided. Sure, he would have cheated on her, but it would have been a marriage of convenience on both sides.

R58 All things considered I do think that Bea has done well for herself with Edo. I’m pretty sure that he’s gay, though.

Not that there’s anything wrong with that.

R55, neither husband is a billionaire. They're low-end millionaires.

I don't think the Wales family would be all that interested in Royal Lodge. I suspect that while they live in the "smallish" York Cottage (which isn't small by most of our standards) they are able to make good use of the very nearby Windsor Castle for meeting rooms, wardrobe storage, etc. I bet they like having their private family home and then having overflow space at Windsor Castle if needed.

You suspect WRONG, R61.

Asshole William has beenpushing Charles to get Andrew out of Royal Lodge for a very long time.

He wants it, because he thinks he deserves it.

I’ve read that it was his son in law, Edoardo. Can you imagine marrying in to that family?

R62 William doesn’t want it,

R55 It’s Pippa (Catherine’s sister) who is married to a billionaire, not the York sisters.

Can't King Charles just send some of his calvary around and kick Andrew out? KC really needs to grow a pair.

[quote] Bea has done well for herself with Edo. I’m pretty sure that he’s gay, though

His previous girlfriend was an oriental, so it's a sure bet Edo is gay.

R62 William doesn’t want it. It has been well documented that the family are happy in their existing hope and that William and Kate wouldn’t want to uproot the children again.

Did William tell you this, R62? You must be very close friends!

R62 is Harry's crap PR, spreading more lies about William. Poor Harry

Have you seen Royal Lodge? It’s a ghastly Gothic monstrosity. I’ll bet the wiring is ancient and there’s never enough hot water. William and Kate have a bright, sunny place that’s big enough for their family and no one else, ergo private. That’s a luxury in the BRF.