Did Elon Musk's Starlink rig the election?

Why do people keep linkng to the Afrikaner site? Take a screenshot if you must, but DL is good SEO because it indexes to Google and the site is so old. You're giving them referral traffic and search rankings.

Probably.

No ones going to do anything about it.

I just googled “Starlink exploding” and got nothing more recent than July13, 2024.

Can you link any articles about it? I want to see bad things happen to Musk.

I live in Michigan and it is suspicious how the Dems won except for President.

Cheri Jacobus posting something random on X sounds like a reliable source.

Thanks OP!

Elon Musk told Joe Rogan he has an app that can tally votes during the election before anyone else

I bet you the total vote of the down ballot is less than the presidency totals. I don’t think they cheated. I kept saying it’s a big mistake how the media is portraying him, almost like a daily soap opera, albeit a campy one. Report important shit and move on. There is a psychological undercurrent.

Seeing Trump’s name on that damn ballot was like seeing Michael Jackson’s name for the apolitical under 40 crowd.

It would not surprise me if they cheated. They want to take over and will never give up power.

No.

I very much doubt Starlink had anything to do with processing ballots. They don’t use the internet for security reasons.

Nope.

lol no.

But what happened in 2020 with those -20 million votes

I think Trump accused them of rigging the 2020 election and made a whole scene about knowing he had plans to rig it in 2024. He knew the Democrats would want to "take the high road" and show how much "better" and "more mature" they were than the Republicans by not questioning the results. Sort of like people who constantly accuse their partners of having an affair because they are the ones who are really having an affair all along.

Yes.

The Dems have assured us that the voting machines are secure and fraud is impossible.

Where are they uploading votes to? The votes in America are tabulated by county boards who then report to the state board. Where is there a point in which Starlink would even come into play? In my county at least, none of this vote reporting is done over the internet. The individual polling places tabulate their votes using a machine not connected to the internet, report in person the totals at the county board which then call in the totals to the state board. The state board then releases the totals on a precinct level.

There is no place in that chain for Elon to add votes, unless he’s got LOTS of polling officials in his pocket.

There is too much money involved for not just the candidates but the donors behind them to not track how cheating can occur and then raise claims if they even suspect it did occur. No presidential candidate has ever accused the other side of cheating EXCEPT Trump. I think his dumb ass and the powers around him were on to something. The 2020 NUMBERS DO NOT ADD UP. They just don’t. I’m partially a conspiracy theorist and it is hard pill to swallow as I am liberal but they don’t fucking add up.

Actually let me correct myself, I believe Trump was in on the conspiracy too.

R16 is no fun.

Anyone who says yes is a moron. Sorry. This is fucking embarassing.

The MSM was breathlessly reporting about the staggering interest in this election, the lines and waiting, the phenomenal drive to get people registered. Historic. Unprecedented...

Now it's, "There was apathy".

I googled “Starlink explosions” and found no recent news. Oh, but they hushed it up, right?

Sure. That’s gotta be it.

Link to Rogan talking about Elon's app

Cherish Jacobus is kind of nuts and disgruntled. Doesn't mean she's wrong, though.

“I like his policies” 🙄

They said they were gonna. Multiple times.

Everyone promoting the lunacy that the election was rigged should be dropped in the middle of the ocean.

Trump’s margin in EVERY swing state appears to be based entirely on under votes.

I think we should huffily claim it was stolen just to piss off the Magats. "A matter of fact, Cletus, we DID win this election, and there's nothing you can do or say to convince me otherwise."

r4 I also live in Michigan and am not surprised by the results because I knew Harris was underperforming with Arabs, Muslims, and Black men based solely on my social circles and looking at the polling data. It's you White folks that are surprised, lol.

Fucking told you people this shit would happen and was either brushed off, accused of "cosplaying as Black" (by far the most asinine accusation), being troll, all of the typical DL bullshit that prevents many of you from believing fat meat is greasy...

[quote]DEARBORN, Michigan, Nov 10 (Reuters) - Democrat Kamala Harris lost Michigan by more than 80,000 votes amid a nationwide shift to Republicans, as union workers, Black voters, Arab Americans and Muslims either failed to show up at the polls, or cast their ballots for Donald Trump.

[quote]It was a bracing loss, given the state is run by a high-profile Democratic governor who expanded voting rights and it had only backed a Republican president once before in the past 22 years - Trump in 2016, and then by fewer than 11,000 votes.

[quote]What happened in Michigan highlights issues that ail the Democratic Party nationwide, community leaders, voters and political experts say. Working class voters, people of color and immigrants voted in lower numbers or moved to Trump, high grocery and housing prices loomed large, and national party leaders ignored local organizers.

I don't care anymore. 😑

Also, r4, tf are you even talking about? Republicans took over our House, babes. The only major Democrat that wonn is Slotkin and she BARELY made it. Do try to keep up.

I think they have Donnie drugged and muzzled do he doesn't gloat about it. He already did with his, don't even bother to vote, Elon and I have a little surprise for you, comments

What’s to stop corrupt election officials from putting thousands of fake undervotes into the pile? No one would know.

There’s more than one at a polling place and that would mean they’d all have to be in on the scheme. Possible but really only feasible in small, tight-knit communities. Plus you could only use ballots assigned to nonvoters, at least considering the safeguards my state uses.

Democrats don’t do baseless conspiracy theories.

Now I read a lot of mail in votes in Pennsylvania were not counted

My absentee ballot could not even be delivered within six weeks. It was never processed.

There were Russian bomb threats in Georgia's (USA) blackest precincts. No biggie tho, right?

R38 What state do you live in? I put mine in a drop box or at the polling place and it’s counted pretty rapidly.

It's really sad to see election denial spread on the Democratic side. The side that is supposed to be about facts. Russia and China work both sides because their ultimate goal is to cause chaos in the US so they can do what they want. Wouldn't surprise me if they're pushing it on social media.

I mean the Republicans confiscated voting machines in 2020 and plenty of time to reverse engineer them over the years. Then there are the numbers that don't match. Seems Russian as fuck to call democrats who question this, cRaZy

I knew at least one person would call me Russian for pointing out that the Russians (and to an extent China) push these theories on social media.

This Starlink theory is legit crazy, folks.

[quote] Seems Russian as fuck to call democrats who question this, cRaZy

It seems Russian as fuck to promote this new election denialism. Maybe the Russians are taking advantage of the crazy people who are susceptible to this kind of conspiracy theory.

the republicans rigged Ohio in 2012 and it didn't work, they are always trying to cheat and wouldn't be surprised if they did. democrats have decided the best way to deal with fascism is by allowing them to have total power and hoping that if we give it to them nicely they won't execute us. welcome 2 weimar

Who needed Starlink in Georgia? As secretary of state, Brian Kemp oversaw the voting that put him in the governor's mansion (forestalling a pending election lawsuit when these same hackable servers were wiped clean). Why outsource fraud when you can grow it yourself at home?

I'm not big on conspiracy theories, but what harm would a few precinct-level hand recounts do? We need something to show our elections are secure besides politicians and broadcasters telling us that they are.

As a useless cunt and his face going forward, couldn't Mr. Elon gave been a great human?

Face it: Americans are idiots. Not stolen by anything other than stupidity.

I agree that Americans are idiots. But I still think Kamala voters outnumbered them. The disparities are too extreme. I don't buy it. Pick one swing state and count by hand. See what happens. (I nominate one of three: Michigan, Pennsylvania or North Carolina).

Name one prognosticator who saw this result coming? Name one poll that predicted this result? Names one network or media outlet that saw this coming? Shitler won ALL the battleground states by 4%??? GTFOH

R21 Because there were long lines and what not. But that can’t or anyone with a brain explain how it all resulted in total vote numbers so drastically less than 2020. Shit doesn’t add up.

Biden, law enforcement coming.

R28 Yep. UNLESS you finally come to the conclusion that the cunts were right about 2020.

[quote] Yep. UNLESS you finally come to the conclusion that the cunts were right about 2020.

Exactly. As Dr. Zaius told Taylor, "Don't look for it, Taylor. You may not like what you find." Better to let sleeping dogs lie.

Any evidence that many of those who were newly registered voters for Harris and went to the polls only to discover they were not on the rolls as being registered? Apparently there were scammers telling people to register to vote for Harris, but their voter's registration applications never made their way to the state.

My friend's daughter who was big on Kamala and female rights, her mom said she doesn't even think she voted. I wonder how many Gen Z didn't actually vote?

From another thread:

Someone has started a campaign:

If the Democrats don’t initiate a recount for the swing states and bring an investigation into Elon Musk’s involvement in the Trump campaign, they are willfully ceding our nation to fascism in the face of results across 7 states that defy any precedent or reasonable explanation. We all deserve a #SwingStateHandRecount.

I guess anyone here who agrees should pass it on.

Didn't they say that the voting machines had no modems in them?

Oh gad, it's not 2000, r57, to be thinking about "modems" and even more antiquated "technology." Jesus, please, tell us about your dial up com's latest issues with your AOL

Musk is a snake and he got very friendly with Trump late in the game.

R40: I sent my Virginia ballot by registered mail from Dublin, Ireland

I don’t see how Starlink would enable Republicans to engage in voting fraud. It’s a technology used to connect to the internet, nothing more to my knowledge.

It was reported repeatedly that for the first time people were registering to vote Republican just as much as Democrats when it came to new signups. More people today identify as Republican than Democrat. The writing was on the wall for months.

Russia elated with Trump’s win and expect a debt to be paid back

Undervoting makes absolute sense to me in the context of this election.

Lots of people who are too dumb to even know the names of their rep or senator, but voted for Trump and Trump only.

I think the info at R63 is extremely significant. It also should disqualify any person in the race who has "obligations" to Russia. Can you even imagine if this were the 1950s? You'd be exiled to Alba. Now we're just sort of fine with it? Trump can act patriotic while also claiming that Putin is his buddy?

Undervoting would make sense if there wasn't record registration and turnout

[quote] Undervoting makes absolute sense to me in the context of this election.

It’s a phenomenon that happens even with the state and local offices. Just looking at the results in my county, there were some offices that had thousands of more votes in total than others. I’m someone who gives a vote for every office, but there are some people who skip voting for offices they don’t know or care about or for which they just don’t want to make a decision. It happens.

The undervoting in this case was the opposite--millions of ballots with blue straight down the ballot but the presidential ticket left blank. That's what's raising so many eyebrows. Why millions of people would wait in lines for hours just to leave the most important vote blank--not even a third party choice.

If the allegations at R63 are indeed true, I could see Trump deciding that he’s more powerful and clever than Putin and deciding to refuse to play ball now that he’s in power, with no need for electoral help in the future.

Trump’s personality and history don’t indicate someone who is reliable or loyal. Once he has what he wants from you, I don’t see him holding to his end of the deal.

The only unknown, which might assure Donald’s fealty, is what, if any, kompromat Putin has on Trump. Given rumors, and Putin’s character, indicate the likelihood that such the Kremlin has such information, it’s likely the story holds water.

[quote] millions of ballots with blue straight down the ballot but the presidential ticket left blank.

If someone is a Democrat who didn’t want to vote for Harris, it would make sense to leave it blank rather than vote for Trump.

Many voters have a history of voting more liberal down ballot. They want a national government which doesn’t give their tax money to the notorious welfare queens in other states but want a state and local government which will take care of them and rescue them when they need it.

Given that 40% of the electorate don’t identify as members of either major party, it’s plausible that they didn’t want to vote for either candidate or wanted to lodge their displeasure with both national parties by not choosing either of their candidates.

I could see a bunch of MAGA cult members standing in line for hours to vote for only one thing-Dear Leader Trump. He often said "I alone can fix it". Why waste time voting for anyone else?

Why argue when a targeted recount will tell The story.

They did wide scale recounts in 2016. I don’t see the harm.

R73, in many states if the candidates’ vote totals aren’t within one, or even a half of a, percent the losing candidate who asks for a recount has to pay for the state to perform one.

I don’t know how much, if any, money Harris has in her campaign coffers but it can cost upward of $1 million per state and if it doesn’t result in different winner, the foot’s the bill.

R74 You really think Kamala doesn't have $4 million left of the over 1 billion dollars raised?

R68 you made that up—complete bullshit.

[quote] They want a national government which doesn’t give their tax money to the notorious welfare queens in other states but want a state and local government which will take care of them and rescue them when they need it.

That’s sensible.

R76 agreed, it’s like I said, mad young people in swing states voted for Trump and no else or at least not proper consistency. The totals of the senate and house races per state are lower than the presidential totals. We still won young people overall though. We need to face it. The media has made Trump the Elvis Presley of politics.

[quote] That’s sensible

You expect logic and sense from the people who voted for Trump again???

[quote]Lots of people who are too dumb to even know the names of their rep or senator, but voted for Trump and Trump only.

Wrong direction.

Several states with 150-250K more votes for Congress than for President.

R77, except it never happens. Red states often have poorly-funded schools, bad roads, and very low social benefits, which the voters pay into, like Medicaid expansion and unemployment insurance.

The gaslighting is getting me angrier than I'd prefer to be.

Kamala's got a small army of election lawyers on their side. I trust them to do the right thing.

There will be recounts, and hopefully the discrepancies in totals will be clear then.

There will be no recounts. There is nothing to recount at the presidential level. There was no manipulation of the actual votes. She has conceded. There is no legal action pending or threatened in this regard in any state.

The only open question is remaining provisional and overseas ballots in PA—the total of which could not affect the outcome of the presidential race in…it only *might* impact the Senate race.

Every state does its own form of audit prior to certification, to confirm the number of ballots cast matched the reported number of votes. That is all. The end.

R75 supposedly the campaign spent past the billion dollars raised and is about 20M in debt.

R85 According to whom? All I've heard that rumor from are X magats.

Senator Lara Trump

^ Byron Donalds will replace Little Marco. Lara Trump is way too trashy and controversial. Then again, I wouldn't rule anything out.

That would leave another House vacancy —doubtful

Good point R89. I hadn't thought of that.

R75 Yes. She is still asking for money.

I didn't realize Kamala was paying all those celebrities that's where the money went

R92 she wasn’t paying them. She was paying for the venues.

That million dollars didn't go into Oprah's pocket--it paid for the production of the entire town hall program.

She wasn’t. Learn to read.

If you want to help, this guy (who was saying how it could be done) is asking people to go on line and pull the public facing data for one precinct in a swing state and compare it to the final result.

Why it’s important-it’s not the SATELLITE transmission, it’s in the handoff from the local precincts up to the county then the handoff from the county to the state.

The handoff from each precinct to the county and from the county to the state is where the discrepancies would show up.

Is that handoff done via internet? Thumb drive? External hard drive? I don’t know. But the data handoff is where this guy says the shit is happening and he’s asking YOU to pull the public data and look for yourself.

A new DL Loon:^^

[quote] R22: I googled “Starlink explosions” and found no recent news. Oh, but they hushed it up, right? Sure. That’s gotta be it.

Your claim to have searched Google is not made in good faith. There's plenty there.

It may well have nothing to do with the vote total irregularities, but pretending it's not there is suspicious.

May well?

The Loons are calling tonight.

[quote]R99: May well? The Loons are calling tonight.

That's a way of suggesting that I think you're probably right on that issue. Odd that you don't understand that, and that you're tripping over your own dick in your rush to throw shade.

That hurt🥴

Chuck Schumer ugh

Bullet ballots. That’s how they pulled it off.

Google it.

Because there was no fraud. That’s why.

R103 watchu talkin bout Willis. 2020 or now? And what states put the presidential candidate up in that style. Not one. But please share with me what you are talking about.

R96, are you also R103?

I have been checking Spoonamore's thread on a daily basis. So far, he is one of few trying to spread the word with real, bonafide claims of software interference.

Also, check out Jenny Cohn on Twitter X and Cheri Jacobus. Please post anything else you discover, but be careful. I've been banned twice within the pas 7 days and there were two 24-hr periods I was unable to post. I suspect every post to be my last one.

Bona fide bullshit.

No, r106, I’m not r103.

If the Democrats don’t initiate a recount for the swing states and bring an investigation into Elon Musk’s involvement in the Trump campaign, they are willfully ceding our nation to fascism in the face of results across 7 states that defy any precedent or reasonable explanation.

Oh well then. In the meantime, please take your meds on schedule tomorrow. We don’t a repeat of today’s outburst.

The Anyone But Trump mindset was powerful. That's the people who were wrapped around the block: to get rid of him. No way did Kamala poll consistently neck-and-neck with Orange Turd then lose that bigly.

[quote] The Anyone But Trump mindset was powerful. That's the people who were wrapped around the block: to get rid of him.

The people wrapped around the block signified one thing only, that the local government did a terrible job of setting up sufficient polling stations and/or voting machines.

If you had to spend more than two hours waiting to vote, then your local election officials did a lousy job in preparing for election day.

That was the whole idea, r113.

It’s form of voter suppression at the state level. Those red states set the number of precincts. In heavily black or Latino districts, they only have ONE polling place. In white areas, there are numerous polling locations, all fully staffed.

Voter interference — burning ballot boxes (26? Idk) and I read 67 bomb threats phoned in to black churches and black community centers. A highly coordinated attack, all calls occurred at 6pm which was also (oddly) when Starlink uploaded voter data. The bomb threats were simply a distraction from the actual scene of the crime. Up in space. That’s why Leon blew up four satellites the next day.

For anyone who's with R115 in their belief this election was rigged, check this out

The article at 116 cites Dominion voting machines being breached.

Fox News was made to pay a $787 million settlement to Dominion for questioning their machines and Tucker Carlson was thrown off the network because of it.

So Fox and Tucker were right all along?

How is it possible that the American government used the very satellites of someone who is openly your enemy? You would think that this happens in a third world country, but expect to have the best minds and scientists to prevent the government from using these starlink satellites.

R117 thank you pointing that out.

But see this? [[ "Dominion Voting Systems objected vehemently to providing its software to the same partisan actors who ultimately got copies through voting system breaches, stating that to give its software to biased actors would cause “irreparable damage” to the “election security interests of the country.'" ]]

In a nutshell, Dominion objected to the PARTISAN ACTORS receiving their data. It's possible those partisan actors were later able to breach AFTER the lawsuit was filed. These could be the same "actors" who were allowed by Biden's administration to "investigate" Arizona right after the 2020 election. At that point, they could have planted codes breaching the Dominion systems.

It has been many others' contention that ES&S, a Republican owned and operated voting machine company - the other company named in the letter - has been complicit dating back possibly to 2004. THEY'RE the ones that should have been audited, not Dominion.

For clarity, the letter had to mention both companies. Capiche?? (hoping I explained it well enough).

^^ Another example of the Repugs projecting - accusing someone else of doing what they themselves are doing in order to throw them off:

Deflect and confuse.

The Pug operatives and Fox deliberately and strategically accused Dominion so that the Dems wouldn't DARE accuse the company that was truly complicit - ES&S - which they should have done all along.

Why was it that only Dominion machines were audited in 2020?? Because Republicans knew nothing corrupt would be discovered.

It was worth the 800 million payoff!!

It was why they were so desperate to prevent it from going to trial. The fear of humiliating lying Fox hosts and Murdoch himself was just a small part of it.

Great intel on this thread, holy fucking shite.

A friend at University of Carolina, received a letter YESTERDAY , said her vote needed to be confirm and she had until 5:00 TODAY, Thursday the 14th! She has never changed her address, and should not have needed to be confirmed. I had 8 friends, last week, check their votes and shoes they had not voted since 2020!! WHAT IS GOING ON NC???

Reasonable explanation of Bullet Ballots

Las Vegas “magicians” and gas-lighters have something in common. They have ways of making you not see what THEY are doing. So for example, if you are a politician (an autocrat wannabe) being backed by the most powerful billionaires on the planet, tech moguls who run high level military surveillance and CEOs who need to ensure zero regulation and a lack of oversight and culpability for the half baked invasive tech they unleash on the world, whilst also stealing everyone’s data and creative products to feed it, aren’t you going to consistently and relentlessly accuse the other side of “cheating” and stealing the election while also threatening a hellscape of war if they lose another ?

So, Democrats are constantly defending the illusory election integrity side and worrying about the civil war instead of noticing the gorilla walking through the room.

Comparing the average bullet ballot percentage rates over time to this election is where the red flag gets huge. Typically bullet ballots look more similar to what you see in the non-swing states. Huge alarm bells going off

More discrepancies explained.....

Trump + Musk = nothing good.

Surely, if there was something to this Harris's team would investigate.

[quote]Surely, if there was something to this Harris's team would investigate.

They may be busy being investigated, for what they did with a billion dollars.

Seems like a significant amount of voter disenfranchisement going on in numerous swing states.

If they did all turnout to vote for Trump I hope- like all people who are drawn to his orange light- they get burned real bad. No blaming Biden for the price of eggs anymore.

Updated interview/information re: 2024 election rigging

No one has explained why the Trump campaign would bother rigging the election considering they were already going to have more voters voting for Trump in the swing states than for Harris. It doesn’t make sense to rig an election that they were already going to win without rigging. What was to be gained?

There is never a guarantee and it was a dead-heat in most swing states. Most of the rigging is likely kicking qualified registered voters off the poll so that they can't vote or so there vote doesn't count.

R135 I believe you're basing your question on the final results of the swing states. Elon found ways of destroying votes in most if not all the swing states so the final tallies would be altered, favoring Trump. Kamala was predicted to win at least 2 of the swing states if not more.

By widening the margin, (which is what Elon did), it's so way out of the percentage allowed to demand recounts, that Democrats are now assuming Kamala really did lose. Why destroy 50 votes when you can destroy 5 million? Because it's more plausible if it looks like a closer race?

They're shaming Democrats from even asking. Trump said in his rally a week before "You don't have to vote. We've got the votes" right before an aide pulled him off the stage and told him to STFU!

Somehow, (in one of the videos posted), it's also explained how the Pugs got into the mail-in ballots. Remember how crazed Trump was in 2020 about mail-in ballots? and Louis DeJoy was made Postmaster General so he could destroy sorting machines? Which he did until public outcry prevented more damage?

Yet this year, Trump and the Republicans were suddenly all about early mail-in voting. And why was DeJoy never fired?? (No one has stated a theory for this as far as I know).

But, c'mon.....The Math Ain't Math-ing!!

Of course it was rigged! These criminals weren’t taking any chances.

I hate Trump. HATE. HIM. But STOP saying the election was stolen/rigged unless you have EVIDENCE. And "it HAD TO HAVE BEEN!" is not evidence, morons. That's exactly what Trump said in 2020. You sound like fucking idiots. Live in reality.

R139 Polls being off all over the country, voter trends, the goddamn numbers are tons of circumstantial evidence. Circumstantial evidence isn't PROOF, but there's way more than enough of it to call for investigation. That is how proof is found!

And we did it for them? FOR CHRISSAKES! 1 million illegals voted for Trump in 2016? We knew it was ridiculous but it was investigated. The ghost of Cesar Chavez? Something in Italy (can't remember). This shit was investigated. Because WE knew it was ridiculous and nothing would be find.

Dare to tell the Republicans we want hand counts in Pennsylvania and North Carolina? Watch how loud the fits they throw are !!!

[quote] Circumstantial evidence isn't PROOF, but there's way more than enough of it to call for investigation.

The circumstantial evidence supports Trump’s win in the swing states though. The polls before the election, when adjusted to reflect the underrepresentation of Trump supporters, showed there would be more votes for Trump than for Harris. The actual vote count after the election also showed more votes for Trump than for Harris. While that’s only circumstantial, still, it’s compelling evidence that the vote counting has been accurate.

Recounts are happening in Pennsylvania. There are complaints about the expense!

The recount is of the results for the senate race

R142, are those hand recounts in PA? Do you know? If they use the machines, the results will not change. It has to be done by hand.

R144, I second.

R141, link please? I did my own search and found nothing to validate. Thank you.

R141, it’s *only* an accurate recount if it’s done by hand.

We also didn't see the millions of illegall immigrants votes we were warned about. Weird?? Also Trump was screaming rigged earlier in the day until he started winning then it was never mentioned again.

R147 But he was right!!

[quote]Also Trump was screaming rigged earlier in the day until he started winning then it was never mentioned again.

If you see rigging against you but you win anyway, you can go after it on principle or let it go. That's not surprising. I don't know if there was any validity to it. I wasn't paying attention.

We are supposed to believe we had record voter registrations but lower voter turnout?

Where are the recounts, Dems?

They can’t get recounts because they rigged it to be sure the margins are big enough that a court will deny it. All we have now are the few hand recounts happening in PA (and I’m not certain those are being done by hand).

So to my knowledge, Dems cannot challenge. If I’m wrong, please correct me. Why isn’t Biden throwing out Russians like Obama did for interfering in our election? Biden does NOTHING????

He did not win this election. There was a gigantic Anyone But Trump sentiment, as shown with Kamala's massive donation haul. And she was consistently polling neck-and-neck with him- no way would she lose by that margin.

Turd could not lose this election, his whole world would collapse. So suddenly computer whiz Elon Musk appears.

"You don't even need to vote! We already have your votes". - Trump who was muzzled for a week after and canceling rallies so he'd shut up about the plan

Yes

Marc Elias, says no.

The chat says otherwise

[quote]Turd could not lose this election, his whole world would collapse. So suddenly computer whiz Elon Musk appears.

Elon Musk is now a computer wiz?

Every DL thread about Musk calls the guy dumb and loser. Now he's suddenly genius enough to rig the United State's electoral system? Quite an amazing transformation.

American voting machines are NOT internet connected

Remember the Bush-Gore 2000 Florida recount with "hanging chads"?

Yes r158 what about it? Absolutely nothing to do with the internet and Starlink.

I know r159 I'm just bringing up old memories

Everything is fine. Go back to your phones and your sad little lives while these fuckers consume the planet along with with their Big Macs.

R151 Technically you aren't wrong. It was part of the plan. Why steal 2 votes to win an election when you can steal 2 million?

But legally, there has to be someway around it. How did Republicans get recounts in 2020 in states where Biden clearly won? (validating our claim the elections were free and fair, which they weren't!).

But Dems are just throwing up their hands and giving in. Whatever happened to "When we fight. We win!" When was the fight? Did I miss something??

If there response is to do nothing, they were never worth our votes to begin with.

^^their. I'm not an idiot, but spell check hates me!

"American voting machines are NOT internet connected"

No, simp- but they are computers.

Trump got half the votes in Dixville Notch, where they vote by hand on a paper ballot.

That should have been the first clue that the election was not going to go well for Harris.

It seems odd that in some states Republicans voted for Trump yet voted for Democrats for congress.

R165, she got the results as Obama

[quote]It seems odd that in some states Republicans voted for Trump yet voted for Democrats for congress.

I'm not surprised that split-ticket voting would seem odd to someone on DL.

Elaborate, wise sage r168.

Cyber-Security Experts Warn Election Was Hacked 'Musk is guilty as fuck'

[quote]Cyber-Security Experts Warn Election Was Hacked 'Musk is guilty as fuck'

Considering that there were more actual people who voted for Trump than there were who voted for Harris, hacking the election with nothing to gain still seems like an incredible waste of time and money.

[quote]"American voting machines are NOT internet connected"

No they're not. The tabulators are though. And Starlink was used to transfer data on some of the tabulation systems.

[quote]R171: Considering that there were more actual people who voted for Trump than there were who voted for Harris...

You're asserting as fact what hasn't yet been demonstrated.

R173 What info are you waiting for and by whom?

[quote]“The numbers are so high to be unbelievable, unprecedented and demanding of further investigation,” writes Stephen Spoonamore, hacking and counter-hacking expert, cyber-security adviser, and government contractor.

A little info about Stephen Spoonamore:

R174, that article is currently a trainwreck. It cites differences between voting figures cited by Spoonamore and figures currently reported by various states, which happen to still be in a state of flux, and probably won't be finalized for weeks, if not months - and claims that these differences invalidate the main hypothesis. The conclusion is currently half-baked.

Snopes sometimes makes mistakes, especially in making definitive pronouncements on issues that aren't yet settled.

The dust of the 2024 election has not settled, nor have all of the potential issues been run down. That is the information I am waiting for.

But I do not depend upon this theoretical model for the explanation of how the election was skewed in favor of Trump. I still believe that the same basic thing happened in 2024 that happened in 2016, that various threads of disinformation was marketed to targeted constituencies via social media, and that people headed off to the polls believing an assortment of false narratives which influenced their vote (i.e. the assholes who believed that Trump was going to cut them some stimulus checks; or those who believed that Kamala Harris could not in good conscience be supported because the Biden/Harris Administration still supported Israel in principle, and hadn't put a stop to Netanyahu's attacks on Gaza).

On the 𝐖𝐞𝐫𝐞 𝐃𝐞𝐦𝐨𝐜𝐫𝐚𝐭𝐬 𝐚𝐬 𝐢𝐧 𝐝𝐞𝐧𝐢𝐚𝐥 𝐚𝐛𝐨𝐮𝐭 𝐡𝐨𝐰 𝐛𝐚𝐝 𝐚 𝐣𝐨𝐛 𝐂𝐚𝐫𝐭𝐞𝐫 𝐰𝐚𝐬 𝐝𝐨𝐢𝐧𝐠 𝐢𝐧 𝟏𝟗𝟖𝟎? thread, Reply 38 offers an extract from a WaPo article (the link to which cannot be posted on DL) which supports this thesis.

[quote]The dust of the 2024 election has not settled, nor have all of the potential issues been run down. That is the information I am waiting for

Don't hold your breath!

The Democrats folded like a cheap suit as Dump knew they would

The Harris campaign is free to make claims of election fraud and follow the Trump path or any other to try to overturn the election. We all know how that story ends, though, don’t we?

Got proof?

Reward.

[quote]R178: The Harris campaign is free to make claims of election fraud and follow the Trump path or any other to try to overturn the election. We all know how that story ends, though, don’t we?

The two sides are not the same, not by a longshot. If and when the Harris campaign makes a claim like that, it will be because they have found evidence. And as far as how it ends, the two sides have radically different approaches as well.

[quote]R53: Exactly. As Dr. Zaius told Taylor, "Don't look for it, Taylor. You may not like what you find." Better to let sleeping dogs lie.

▲ 'Defender of the Faith' who wants to blow up the cave. "In a few minutes, there will be no doll."

False equivalencies and false comparisons abound with you, and always have.

On the 𝐃𝐨 𝐲𝐨𝐮 𝐛𝐞𝐥𝐢𝐞𝐯𝐞 𝐢𝐧 𝐆𝐨𝐝 𝐨𝐫 𝐚 𝐡𝐢𝐠𝐡𝐞𝐫 𝐩𝐨𝐰𝐞𝐫? thread, you posted,

[quote]What do atheists zealously proselytize their beliefs? I would have expected atheists to be live and let live, but they are the exact opposite.

On 𝐈 𝐜𝐚𝐧𝐧𝐨𝐭 𝐛𝐞𝐥𝐢𝐞𝐯𝐞 𝐩𝐞𝐨𝐩𝐥𝐞 𝐬𝐭𝐢𝐥𝐥 𝐭𝐡𝐢𝐧𝐤 𝐄𝐚𝐬𝐭𝐞𝐫 𝐰𝐚𝐬 𝐥𝐢𝐭𝐞𝐫𝐚𝐥 , you said,

[quote]The core of the anti-Christians' argument against Christianity is that supernatural events cannot occur. If that's what you want to hang your hat on, go for it.

On 𝐋𝐞𝐭'𝐬 𝐛𝐞 𝐭𝐫𝐨𝐥𝐥 𝐟𝐚𝐫𝐦𝐬 𝐢𝐧 𝐒𝐭. 𝐏𝐞𝐭𝐞𝐫𝐬𝐛𝐮𝐫𝐠 𝐭𝐫𝐲𝐢𝐧𝐠 𝐭𝐨 𝐟𝐢𝐠𝐮𝐫𝐞 𝐨𝐮𝐭 𝐃𝐋, you said,

[quote]The topic was "British Royal family" and there's nothing "racially charged" about the discussion, on DL or anywhere else, of Kate's photos or whereabouts. I mean, no one who is not a loon would think the discussion is racially charged, no offense. Also, the whole site is obstreperous. To say that one thread subject in particular is obstreperous would be rather ridiculous, right?

On 𝐁𝐢𝐛𝐥𝐞 𝐞𝐱𝐩𝐞𝐫𝐭𝐬, 𝐡𝐞𝐥𝐩 𝐦𝐞 𝐨𝐮𝐭, you stated,

[quote]OP, for a religious question about the Bible, I wouldn't trust the response of anyone who only provides a secular analysis or is scornful of the text. You won't get a good answer.

On 𝐖𝐖𝟐 𝐉𝐚𝐩𝐚𝐧𝐞𝐬𝐞 𝐈𝐧𝐭𝐞𝐫𝐧𝐦𝐞𝐧𝐭 𝐂𝐚𝐦𝐩𝐬 𝐢𝐧 𝐭𝐡𝐞 𝐔𝐒, you soft-pedaled Trump's intentions, saying

[quote]No one wants to detain illegals any longer than is necessary. The goal is not to detain them, it’s to do the right thing and repatriate them as quickly as possible.

Hmmm...