MSNBC- Part 64

Prior thread.

These threads are very helpful, therapeutic, and often hilarious. Thanks!

I no longer believe any word that comes out of JoScar's mouth.

I haven't watched MJ since ten minutes on Wednesday morning. I had to hurl.

When Joe spends a significant time on religious topics and continuously tries to vindicate the Southern Baptists and the Evangelicals from their secular crimes, I GET ASS CRAMPS.

[The medical term for anal cramps is proctalgia fugax, which is a functional anorectal disorder that causes severe rectal pain in episodes]

Joe is a phony with all the talk about his granny and the PTL Club but he is worse.

If Anne Hathaway can convert to America's original protestant faith, and TRUE CHRISTIAN faith, in support of her gay brother, then Joe needs to convert. All this bullshit about his dad's funeral and bl;a bla bla that he is firm to the ORIGINAL Baptist Faith. Proctalgia fugax ALERT!

The Plantationn Baptist Church lost its soul when it criminalized abortion in the 70s. The Baptists were fine with being pro choice as they did not judge the sinner, they PRAYED for the sinner, and let Jesus judge, but the move to political power in subjugating women under the guise of dogma was a bit far-fetched. Now you can understand that Baptists created the Black church so slaves WOULD NOT KILL THEIR MASTERS.

Pity, that.

I have a real problem with the people who were singing Kamala's praises on the morning of the 5th and then ripping her and the party on the 6th. Had she won those people would never, ever, had said one negative thing about her for the next few weeks. Once sworn in, it would have been open season of course.

I only respect the people making intelligent analysis of what may have gone wrong as I do get the sense that, had she won, they would have said she pulled it off in spite of *insert weakness in campaign* and provided an honest assessment of the campaign and how we could improve for 2028.

Needless to say, Joe makes my skin crawl and I don't trust that he is going to remain never Trump. There are a few personalities who were never Trump because they thought 2016 was a fluke. I can see them jumping skip now, sane washing him, and become raging Rs again because 'unity.'

I'm finding I'm unable to watch MSNBC right now (or in the foreseeable future). Between the analyses of what went wrong, what the Dems should do next, and what Dump actually is doing, it's all dangerously depressing. I'll keep track of things through this thread. Thanks, OP.

Katie Porter on the Ozempic?

So the Mayor of Dearborn Michigan was just on. When asked why the people of his city went for Trump knowing that he plans another Muslim ban, he dodged the question and blamed Democrats not paying enough attention to them. Well good luck with that when Trump decided to turn on them. He has nothing to lose.

[quote]I'm finding I'm unable to watch MSNBC right now

I know what you mean, but some of the best honest insightful stuff is actually the weekend crew Samone, Micheal Steele, Alicia Menendez. They had on some guy who's expected to have some roll in Trump admin. He was super extreme pissing off the two women by saying child care is a social problem not something the government should be paying people to take time off work. If prices go up because of tariffs, people need to get a better job. Micheal Steele pointed out we need to see this to know what we are up against, we need to understand how they think. So even something like child care to us has a whole different meaning to them.

[quote]he dodged the question and blamed Democrats not paying enough attention to them.

Well, he will be asked to provide police assistance in removing them.

The Muslims of Dearborn better not say shit when Bibi and Trump wipe Gaza off the map. If they try to get on MSNBC or they call Big Gretch they should be told they have 3 options. 1) Cry to Fox News 2) Call Trump 3) Put Jill Stein's picture on the milk carton and find her.

[quote] If Anne Hathaway can convert to America's original protestant faith, and TRUE CHRISTIAN faith, in support of her gay brother, then Joe needs to convert.

Maybe her nasty brother should stop putting things in his anus.

Did you know gay men put their tongues up there? That’s where doo doo goes!

They’re just nasty.

Nasty!

[quote] The medical term for anal cramps is proctalgia fugax, which is a functional anorectal disorder that causes severe rectal pain in episodes

I know getting your ass pounded can be extremely hot, but if you've ever been fucked long, deep, and really slow, it's possibly one of the most curative experiences. For whatever ails you.

[quote] he dodged the question and blamed Democrats not paying enough attention to them.

What exactly are they supposed to do in this worthless little town? Install diving boards on roofs to toss gay people off?

Are Democrats supposed to embrace a community that encourages book banning? And what attention did the Republicans give them?

Fuck them. Start not giving a shit like Republicans do and stop trying to make everyone happy. They don’t and they win. And you may just inspire your base to actually turn out to vote.

Also on MSNBC two Hispanic women whining about being deported and how "Americans" and people of California are going to need to put their bodies in the way to stop this.

As a Native Californian, I am done with this since you voted for Dump. I am not lifting a finger for MAGA voters. Not going to happen.

r13, fist they came for the Gypsies...

Did they Gypsies vote for little Hitler?

R11 I'm beginning to wonder if the Joy troll is a reincarnation of the odious Jake Sherman scat lover.

[quote] people of California are going to need to put their bodies in the way to stop this.

Nope. Not a chance. You voted for it. Off you go. And goodbye to the billionaires. So long to the young MAGAts leaving for Texas. Adios to the tech bros going to work from home in Wyoming. Auf Wiedersehen to the old MAGAts going to Arizona.

[quote] Also on MSNBC two Hispanic women whining about being deported and how "Americans" and people of California are going to need to put their bodies in the way to stop this. As a Native Californian, I am done with this since you voted for Dump. I am not lifting a finger for MAGA voters. Not going to happen.

How’s this? II’ll eat at a fancy Mexican restaurant and have a top-shelf margarita while looking at my portfolio that rose to new heights because of Latino MAGAT voters.

Otherwise, my well of empathy has run dry.

Congrats on alienating the only allies you had.

As someone who lives in the same county as Salinas, CA (America's Salad Bowl), if Trump's mass deportations go into effect, people will become very very unhappy with the prices & availability of their produce.

Especially tariff on produce from Chile.

R20

And the problem will still be that people never quite understand cause and effect.

They won't blame Republicans or Trump's actions; somehow it will become the fault of Democrats. That's how we got here. Anyone with half a brain knew how all this worked, hence our high opinion of the nation's intelligence.

R20 is correct. The country has no clue how much produce comes from the central part of CA which is huge swaths of land where illegal immigrants had pick fruit and other things that machines cannot do for less than minimum wage. All under the table, it's an open secret.

Where are they going to get millions to replaces them working in the hot desert sun doing back breaking work for minimum pay? Do you really think Gen Z is up to the task? No? Then get ready for prices to triple or quadruple before it's even worth doing the job by Americans used to decent pay.

R20 He's gonna fuck up the economy Biden left him. Just wait. And the people who voted for him will have no one to blame but themselves when prices shoot up as his round 'em up and deport scheme gets underway. As 30% or 40% price increases at the supermarket start eating into their earnings, hating Mexicans and Central Americans will seem trivial. Could have kept things stable with a Harris administration, but no, that was unthinkable and "she didn't explain her policies enough." GTFOH.

The Fox machine will find some way to pin it on Gavin Newsom.

I’m still watching some MSNBC but avoiding all other news, at least for a while.

R25 +1.

Yep, if they deport all the low wage labor, prices of produce from CA which supplies about 30% or more to the rest of the country are going to skyrocket. Dump will blame Newsom. Importing to compensate wont be cheap either as Trump will throw us into a tariff war.

Thanks for the MSNBC thread support, OP/Caretaker.

Why ever was a nice, sensible person like you FF'd and issued a time out? You're not on my Ignore Ward, so you must be alright with me. Oh, wait ... I just answered my own question.

Answer: "nice, sensible person"

So now Morning Joe is a bash the Democrats show?

Joe always does that with his tired trope about "woke" culture. He's been repeating that tired theory for 20 years it seems. Same as Bill Maher who has really turned to the right and gets a more Republican audience that progressive one the last few years. Neither of those guy were actual Democrats. But they sure seem to know it all in their self appointed expert minds.

R27

Here's a thought. - Newsom seems to give a shit and speaks the truth out loud and in public. When Trump [bold]does[/bold] trash Newsom, Newsom needs to be as ballsy and loud as he can be and whenever and wherever he can, blame Trump and explain exactly why. In a short concise message - Trump's policies did this and here's why you're suffering. Newsom seems to get media coverage. Learn from him.

Maybe hammering them with a simple explanation even the most ignorant can understand will get through. Hammer them.

Newsom (and some others) have no fucks left to give so the Democrats should try it.

There is some question as to how the media would or wouldn't report it. My point, I guess, would be for Dems to try being as angry and repetitive as the republicans.

I like Newsom, but he's already said he's going to protect all immigrants. I just hope the stated dose not get flooded from the East from those fleeing from red states.

Newsom is getting ready for 2028.

I'm struggling watching any news show right now - even local news!

Newsom and Trump are going to be trading jobs as soon as Dump get into office. Dump will threaten to hold federal funds and Newsom will deny Elon use of Vandenberg Space Force Base (yes it's really called that) where all his satellites launch from and use of his floating landing pads on the ocean. And it will all start over immigration.

My partner is retired and watches MSNBC almost all day. From morning until around 6:00 PM

I try and tune it out, but can’t help to catch snippets (I work from)

The whole lineup starting with Morning Joe all sound like lame ducks. By the time programming gets to Nicole’s show, all I hear is Claire Mcc crackling away saying nothing really.

The whole network may be in for a shake up.

Ugh Eddie Glaude.

Well, as I posted above, I stopped watching MSNBC but thought if I tuned into Rachel tonight, maybe she'd make me feel better.

It was not to be. While in an earlier era I might have been encouraged by her outrage at all of Dump's corrupt new appointments, this time around I know he won't be stopped.

I tuned out.

Maddow better try not to run 24 seconds into Lawrence's space again, or else he'll be coming for her wig.

Thank you R38. I was just about to turn on Rachel, figured I'd check here first.

Back to old Mad Men scenes on YouTube.

The first 30 minutes of Lawrence's show attempted to pull us back from the ledge by explaining this wasn't a textbook landslide victory for Trump and many of his appointees so far are MAGAt's, but not the feared mega-MAGA extremist fringe elememts was interesting to know. It's still going to be pure hell, but I feel a super teeny-tiny bit less apocalyptic. As a news junkie, I'm still trying to ease back into the news after last week and I'm glad I caught his segment.

Marco Rubio announced it is the pic for Sexotary of State. Let the foam parties begin!

All that sucking finally paid off.

R41 "not the feared Maga Extremist" can possibly now be attributed to Marco. Those were the terms he agreed to, to get the job.

Chris Hayes Hipster Glasses.

Howard Dean is so vain. He probably thinks the Lucille Ball “Mame” lens is about him.

Howard still trapped on old school ground game tactics. Which clearly did not work this time around in spite of being one of the largest ever. It's now a TikTok, Joe Rogan, Infuencer world. Democrats are going to lose again and again if they dont make that the priority next time instead of "knocking on 1 million doors."

Lawrence!!!!

It was the Plutocrats vs Labor.

Cardiff Garcia was on Stephanie’s show tonight, I have always found him sexy.

Musk and Ramasmarmy will be like 2 weasels in a burlap sack.

So some guy from Fox & Frenz is going to be Secretary of Defence? This country is truly fucked.

And all because... TRANNIES!!!!!

Failed Bidenomics that pumped three trillion dollars into the economy, saved police and firefighter jobs, kept unemployment low, THE HORROR.

Katy Tur is shocked SHOCKED! Her man made Matt Gaetz Attorney General. Oh please, Katy you have been the subversive Trumpeters all this time, stop with the faux concern. What did you think would happen?

To answer you question, NO THEY ARE NOT GOING TO STOP HIM, green light all the way. Have you not learned anything about Republicans?

“I actually exhaled when I heard this. I thought I was smoking crack”. -Nicolle Wallace on the Matt Gaetz announcement.

"That's the part of the story I have trouble covering with a straight face." Nicolle W.

Many HaHa has some fucking nerve! Just within the previous hour she had thrown a childish laughing fit at the phrase "whiskey, tango, foxtrot." Has donald filled the press secretary role on his casting breakdown?

Poor Mike Schmidt.

Looking forward to Matt's first pass at the list of vendetta prosecutions. We know Cheney is on there, but I'm wondering if people like Kimmel will be on it, and what Trumped up charges they'll attempt to use.

R56 my pics:

Fauci

Hillary

Maybe the Obamas

A few journalists (not sure who)

Schiff

*picks

Be funny if any of them show up for the inaugural.

I would be shocked if the Obamas showed up, especially Michelle. Or Hillary for that matter.

Tim Miller 🔥

R61, details. I’ve been on a cable news boycott since Election Day.

Pomegranate seeds for everybody!

R51 And they said his first administration brought in the "death of expertise". Now the deluge.

How long before Covid #2?

The avalanche of the Kakistocracy.

The reign of the Kakistocrats is nigh.

Morning Joe is on its way out but will ‘’sanewash’’ till then.

Joe Scarborough endlessly blaming Democrats instead of the voters who but Trump into office. The people have spoken Joe, it's their fault, no one else.

Let Joe Scarborough keep talking so he can get his show cancelled.

[quote]How long before Covid #2?

The country is truly fucked if there is another pandemic with Trump as president, RFK, Jr. in his ear and a segment of the population believing any actions the government takes is part of some grand conspiracy.

No matter, I can't help but think of how Covid hit the Dump years like a wrathful and deserved curse to blight out the administration. And it did.

Bird Flu is already here, R65.

Measles is here too.

R70 With RFK Jr as head of HHS, and Ronnie Jackson as Surgeon General, the health of the nation is in good hands. RFK Jr is already talking about directional changes at all agencies - for the next 8 years!

Not only is Ian Bassin married (newly seen wedding ring), but he has children (Bluesky).

My world has gotten dark.

I SUPPOSE he could be married to another man...

Tell it, Lawrence! Wake the town and tell the people.

I'd forgotten RFK, Jr. is a recovering heroin addict.

Secretary Mayor Pete is on "The Last Word" and discussing infrastructure.

Pete in '28. I trust him.

Pete Buttigieg and Lawrence O’Donnell is crackling good television.

There are 18 million veterans alive today in the US. That's a lot of votes.

Secretary Mayor Pete's always so calm and rational... and sane!

I like Kamala but I think Pete would have beaten Trump.

Jamie Raskin is one of the good ones.

It would be foolish not to harness Pete Buttigieg's talents in shaping the future path of the Democratic Party. A great mind we've got there.

[quote] A great mind we've got there.

Yes, voters truly care about knowledge and intelligence 🙄

[quote]Jamie Raskin is one of the good ones.

Congressman Raskin rose to serve his country at our lowest point while struggling from his own personal lowest point: the death of his son and a cancer diagnosis.

H.E.R.O.

Alex looks good in every color. Looking good, Missy!

Her ability to pull off various shades of green, on television no less, is impressive.

She loves the Jewel tones. They look good on her.

So nice to see Ben Collins again! Just as adorable as ever.

[QUOTE]"You know what you did" -- Steve Bannon and Mike Flynn threaten MSNBC staffers with prosecution for their involvement in a "vast criminal conspiracy against President Trump"

Is that anything like the "vast right-wing conspiracy" that Hillary doth speak of?

I can't wait for the backlash that come once assholes like Bannon and Flynn figure out that implementing their fascist wishlist isn't easy as just getting Trump elected again.

If you ever thought it an impossible job to name someone more odious than Donald Trump, DJT Jr is rapidly making that task a lot easier. Almost seems like he's vying for the title.

He's vying for Daddy's love and the money.

He's reported to have taken over John McEntee's position as loyalty czar, testing all job candidates for their fealty to Trump. Apparently allowing McEntee to continue making cringe-inducing TikToks, and fighting to ban pornography in 2025.

Summer Lee a Lez?

Mika & Joe are sucking up to Trump for access.

What a couple of sell outs. Do they really think this is going to work?

Here's an idea, maybe the olive branch should come from the WINNERS of the presidency? And the winners of the media, like Fox News. What a novel concept.

Do they really think scolding the Democrats who lost that it's their job to reach out?

They are scared Trump is going to target them. Joe has no balls.

What happened to we all know how Trump thinks? Weren't they saying that over and over again. That' he's a 78 year old man who is not going to change? Was that all a lie JOE AND MIKA?

UGH

For Fuks Sake, they are such pawns. They think this cute move is going to save them from being attacked by Trump later on. Just like Mitt Romney, they are going to kiss his ass, which it seems they already have done, and then Trumps going to do what he always does and humiliate them by not doing what he said he would.

Trump is gonna play them so hard.

Pretty sure Nicolle, Rachel & Lawrence would never do this.

So they were hanging out at mar-a-lago already? That's disturbing.

Mika is going to teach Melania how to KNOW HER VALUE. OMG what a two faced CUNT. They must want to have Dump call in again. They will save DEMOCRACY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Well, lets be honest, they both married fugly old men for money, both whores.

I feel lied to. I guess I should not be surprised, Joe is or was a Republican. I don't know what Mika's excuse is.

Yup.

No one should be surprised.

Seriously. Did you think they all had amazing transformations?

Funny that this comes days after Alyssa Farah Griffin busted Trump and Jim Jordan for the fake Scarborough murder story in the Oval.

The View talked about this too.

It's an old picture, but we should make him deny it. Get it out there for everyone to see and hear.

I know they have mortgages to pay and families to feed, but I'd love to see all or some of them on MJ resign over this.

Or they are all complicit? Just didn't make it to Florida yet?

Who am I kidding? More normalization.

Obeying in advance.

Here We Go!

Just goes to show that show business has defeated journalism.

Mika & Joe did this on Willie’s day off.

I’m with her.

Rachel & Lawrence need to scorch Joe & Mika.

I can’t wait to hear Al Sharpton’s take on this.

They want to remain relevant. After all, even Marco says all the TV's in the Capitol gym are tuned to Morning Joe. It's not as if they weren't hypocrites to begin with.

I did not think I could have a lower opinion of these two grifting charlatans, but here we are. 🤢😤🤮

This guest of Nicole hasn't gotten the message that Mitt Romney will not be in the next Senate.

Nicolle has been saying penis alot lately.

Rashida needs to terminate these two sociopathic sycophants as soon as possible to salvage what little credibility MSNBC has left. Let them go to OANN.

Not that it would matter, but what's the best way to let all the MSNBC hosts know that all of them are dead to me?

Almost everyday Joe mentions Ronald Reagan. That's one sorry ass hero to have, Joe.

There are MSNBC staff who read these threads. Also a few (Tim Miller and Mutha Eugenia Daniels at the very least) reporters and analysts.

Even before the election my biggest problem with MSNBC and even CNN was they treated their viewers like they were Fox News viewers and MAGA supporters. Every show seemed like an attempt to convince us that Trump was a bad man and not to vote for him. We already knew that and were never going to vote for him. I am not sure what else they could have done, I don't work in entertainment or news, but what they were doing didn't work. I haven't watch any news since the election and will probably be cancelling my cable before the end of the year. MSNBC is dead to me.

Had MSNBC and CNN tried the 'fair and balanced' approach, but lean Trump with more Trump supporters featured, which was the Fox news method, these threads would have been filled with criticism over attempting to normalize a candidate who wasn't normal at all. They couldn't do anything else to try to influence the election, it came down to the votes of the American electorate, who chose a delusional wannabe dictator and his cult-like political party to control all three branches of the government.

Don't count MSNBC out. Once the orange asshole takes office, starts fucking up which is pretty much a guarantee and going after outlets that are critical of him as 'fake news,' ratings will recover.

Every time I think we're "winning" I tend to return to MSNBC. Next time, if next time ever comes, I'm not sure I will return. It's just easier to avoid TV news and get the bits you need here on DL threads. Also, I can avoid all those unbearable St. Jude's and ASPCA ads.

[quote]Also, I can avoid all those unbearable St. Jude's and ASPCA ads.

You forgot Schreiner's Hospital for Children.

I'll watch Nicole Wallace and Lawrence O'Donnell for their genuinely deep hatred for trump. The rest of them are full of hype and bullshit.

I like Stephanie Ruhle. She’s grown on me.

[quote]Don't count MSNBC out. Once the orange asshole takes office, starts fucking up which is pretty much a guarantee and going after outlets that are critical of him as 'fake news,' ratings will recover.

My fear is that, once Dump gets in, he will try to remove MSNBC and anything else he considers "opposition media" by pulling their broadcast licenses. Hopefully, the networks are already taking steps to battle back against that.

I'ts not just Morning Joe, someone is going on at MSNBC. Just saw Stephani Ruhle give some last minute speech at the end about how she's going to focus more on the financial aspects of the coming administration, this is what the people voted for, bla, bla, bla.

I get the feeling that the suites at MSNBC have decided to turn to the right like CNN did about a year ago in a sad attempt to keep their ratings up. It's not going to work. People turned to MSNBC as an alternative to Fox, not to hear a Fox Light version of the new.

R130 You're right, probably 90% of the viewers of MSNBC's programming already know that Trump is a sack of shit and unfit to be President. But their almost singular focus on driving that narrative is not without a purpose. I think they changed more than a few minds, provided almost daily new reasons that everyone should consider him a real danger, and motivated believers to do something about it.

It's a game of numbers, and Fox's brand of disinformation and propaganda is very effective. They relied on the lazy gullibility and tribalism of Americans with a taste for authoritarianism.

MSNBC's viewership will be back, as the Trump living nightmare starts to deliver all that it has promised. It's like that line from I, Claudius - Let all the poisons that lurk in the mud, hatch out. Or whatever.

Fox and Friends are celebrating their demise. No one on the right has any love for MSNBC. The Joe and Mika thing just gave them tons of talking points about how the left is two faced lairs etc. They all talk about how Mika was just on the view in tears a week ago about Trump being Hitler, now she went to Mar-a-Lago.

That Morning Joe meets Trump stunt was a terrible decision. I dont know if it was Joe or the network management but whoever it was should be fired. The burned their core audience in a spectacular way. No back tracking is going to fix this and only an idiot would think kissing the ring would bring in new viewers from the right who despise MSNBC.

The only way they could fix this is to fire Morning Joe love birds and bring in a truly progressive replacement. Someone or several people who are on the scale of Mehdi Hasan. Too bad they fired him. Maybe if they beg and kissed his ring for a change.

R139 On Pacific time, I would actually stay up to watch the beginning of their first hour.

Fuck that.

Same here r141, now I have to find something else to fall asleep to. Sigh.

R142

Try 'Escape to the Country' on YouTube. (Also sporadically on Prime.)

Peaceful, kind, and a lovely way to fall asleep.

Fuck the politics.

No one is going to watch a poor imitation of Faux News. 🤢

I didn’t interpret Ruhle’s comment that way, r137. For a few months, she’s devoted the middle segment of her show to the economy and how Trump’s policies will impact the economy , usually having 2 correspondents from Bloomberg or CNBC to discuss that. It is usually the most vibrant part of the show-she loves discussing the economy.

I get the impression that instead of spending the majority of her show covering his antics, she is going to spend more time talking about the policies Trump is going to enact and how they impact people.

r145, and golf and baseball and foooobahhhl

You missed the point r145. It's not about what Ruhle is covering, it reeks of some top down decree from MSNBC to shift away from attacking Trump. A faux shift to the center.

Joe & Mika, this news cycle ain’t ending.

[bold] RATINGS DROP..... "38 percent of those in the 25-54 demographic had stopped watching by the next hour. "

MSNBC posted lowest-rated week in over 25 years, Fox News snags 72% of primetime cable news audience after that.

Bipartisan backlash. The MSNBC morning show hosts’ stated goal of “time for a new approach” was openly derided as evidence that Scarborough and Brzezinski did not believe in the conviction of their previous criticisms.

Comcast to Unveil Spinoff Plan for Cable Networks:

[quote] MSNBC posted lowest-rated week in over 25 years, Fox News snags 72% of primetime cable news audience after that.

Considering that most of America now identifies as Republican, MSNBC either rebrands itself away from progressive ideology or folds completely.

Most Americans DO NOT consider themselves Republicans.

Most Americans don't belong to ether party.

Maybe if you fags weren’t licking anus we wouldn’t be in this situation.

You all are so nasty.

Nasty!

Why didn’t Saturday Night Live ever hire Matthew Perry to satirize Joe?

Joe looks like Perry’s mentally deranged twin. He could have torn that up.

Comedy gold never actualized

Biggest backfire ever. Even their rivals are mocking them.

These two are so pathetic and wince worthy.

The political pendulum swings every four years but no one will forget the cowardice and sniveling behavior of these two.

Great opportunity for MSNBC to do something new with their morning slot. These two are toast.

Mika's rationalization, "But nearly 80 million Americans...sent Donald Trump back to the White House with their vote". Trump won with 76 million, 2.5 million more than Harris, no great mandate. Trump's popular vote victory is the 6th smallest margin in history. For reference, Biden won in 2020 with over 81 million.

Joe and Mika were just clearly scared shitless. Hopefully, Trump will take the opportunity of their cowering to publically humiliate them further.

[bold]Hey Rashida Jones, get a clue, the reason you are bleeding viewers is not because you are too far to the left, it's because you are going too far to the right. This stunt by Morning Joe should prove that.[/bold] Joe was never a liberal, Democrat or Progressive to begin with. You are not going to swap in viewers from Fox to a Fox Light version of the same content.

Mika and Joe are TOAST with progressives now. You know, your core base. The only way to save the channel is to replace them with actual progressives, not faux, need the job crossover conservatives.

Joe and Mike are not progressives. They are airheads who have good guests on. All the hysteria about them visiting Trump seems silky to me. they’re not leaders of anything.

MIKa …

Mika , don't you know your value?

I am still in my vacation from MSNBC.

Mondays, Rachel and Lawrence.

Tuesdays, Wednesday just Lawrence.

Fast Thursday through Sunday.

MSNBC will find that 95% of their viewers voted for Harris.

MSNBC needs to expand their market share.

That is the problem.

Mika is trying too hard this morning, the bit with Molly Jung was cringe worthy. John Heilerman must have gotten the memo to fall in line. Do the guests get that much for appearing on MJ that they are going along with these 2 nitwits?

Surprised John Heilemann would fall in line.

Are any other shows inviting John Heilemann on their show? Guy needs to eat.

If Heilemann would suck JoScar's dick, why not. It's business.

Mika must feel like Judy being fucked by Loius B.

Why on earth do Joe & Mika have a 4-hour show? Not worth it. Cut them back to 1 hour and get some other people in there.

Katy Tur, a step above Joe + Mika.

This was the only time Heilemann has been early/on-time for the show, and he took heat for it. I watched the first five minutes to see if there was any shame or remorse among the hosts & guests. Nope. Don't know why I expected there would be.

Lol @ R170. Truth!

Katy Turd has the bizarre buffoon Uncle Tom from Florida stepping’ and fetchin’ for Massah today. The unending loyalty to Felonious Fatty would be hilarious if it weren’t so sad. Jabba the Trump has once again used Black men like a two dolla ho’. Not one Black proposed cabinet member so far! Maybe Twitler will find a place for Dr. Stabby cleaning up the WH.

[quote]his was the only time Heilemann has been early/on-time for the show, and he took heat for it.

Yeah, what was that about, Mika was being really cunty about it. Like she was scolding a child turning it into a teaching moment. The only problem is the teach needs to look in the mirror first. Not a word about their ratings drop or the 99% of social media trashing therm for their knee bending to Dump. She's projecting her feelings of "you fucked up" onto her guests.

More Americans Identify as Republican than Democrat as November Draws Nearer

And those not affiliated now lean Republican.

More Americans don't have a college degree than ones who do. More Germans supported Hitler than those opposed. What's your point?

Actually if you want to look at stats instead of right leaning articles. It's split down the middle, about 30% Dem to Repug with a 2 point swing from time to time. 40% is independent.

There are no stats that show independents lean Republcan, that's projection on the writers of those opinion articles.

R173 Ben Carson is an excellent choice for the clown cabinet. My money is still on Ronny John 'er Jackson as Surgeon General, assuming his special election seat is GOP-safe. I mean it's Texas, right?

All Bets Are Off for MSNBC, CNBC and Bravo:

[quote]Nowhere are the questions more acute than in Comcast’s cable news channels MSNBC and CNBC. An MSNBC source described the mood at the network as “depressed,” while a CNBC source described the mood as “annoyed, but probably fine.”

[quote]Lazarus on Wednesday met with top MSNBC talent, joined by MSNBC president Rashida Jones, according to a source familiar with the company. Lazarus was upbeat but acknowledged the complexities and uncertainties of the deal, some of which will cut very close to MSNBC’s identity.

[quote]Consider: Will the channel continue to be called MSNBC? Will it still be able to use the Peacock emblem? Will the channel cut a financial agreement with NBC News to continue using its reporting, or will it pursue other options? They are big questions without clear answers, and at MSNBC in particular, the devil will be in the details.

I hope they Rebrand E! as Engagement!, E! And run an entertainment/Advertising/Analytics operation like Fox.

Maybe Rhule could show her titties while going over financial news.

Whatever it is, can I drop Comcast/NBC/Peacock and just subscribe to the new Comcast/E!

Gaetz is out!

Braking news, featuring Marc Caputo in a tank top. looking hot.

^^Not to mention, Breaking news, even.

Interesting 🧐

^ $25 million a year for the next five years. Nice work if you can get it.

Joy Reid = Hamas Hattie

Adam Schiff is on Lawrence O'Donnell‘s show tonight.

[quote] $25 million a year for the next five years.

What, did Gaetz take a job at Fox News?

Lawrence 🔥

Steve Schmidt takes down Morning Joe, calls them both cowards:

I don’t get the “spinning off” deal, but it reminds me that MSNBC was named for an experimental Microsoft-NBC hybrid.

Steve Schmidt can REEEAD!!!

Steve writes his own material. I don't know what you are getting at r191

[quote]I don’t get the “spinning off” deal,

Basically what it means is NBC is selling off the news potion of it's content MSNBC in an attempt to avoid Trump from targeting them with lawsuits and other nefarious attacks. They will go back to just being an entertainment network where most of their money is made. That way, if Trump attempts to take down news shows who say anything bad about him, he wont kill the whole network.

It's similar to people who people who buy 5 rental properties and creating a separate LLC for each one. It's kind of a bad sign that big companies expect Trump admin to really throw sand in the gears of actual news broadcasts or even trying to turn them into a form of state TV.

R192, What I mean is that Steve can read, as in read for filth. As in snatch, drag, and, and gather a bitch. As in the library is open. Keep up Rose!

OK, r194. I got it, thanks for that. Not all of us watch Rupaul or take an interest in drag speak. I lost interest in that 20 years ago when it became so ubiquitous and lacking humor.

Some afternoon, I'd like to blow Steve, naked from the waist down, in the tacky brown Barcalounger at his mid-century-ish guest house, where he goes to wank. He'd be giving such well-intentioned feedback and encouragement, a little annoying but I'd take it in the spirit that it was meant.

Saw Lawrence tonight via You tube with his 'Mean Girl' reaction to the P Hegseth police report. He droned on too long, people get the picture.

R194- It’s ‘’Liberry”

r197, MAGA reads at a 6th grade level so he needs to drone. But he needs to add titties to keep their attention.

Rachel Maddow’s days of getting paid millions for doing no work are coming to an end.

Felon Musky now to buy MSNBC?

Sorry, I'm still in the dark, what was the $25 million for 5 years comment about?

Imagine! The world's richest man is an African-American!

Heh. Heh.

[quote]Sorry, I'm still in the dark, what was the $25 million for 5 years comment about?

Maddow will be taking a $5 million pay cut, and now only getting $25 million per year to work one hour per week, R202.

[quote]Maddow will be taking a $5 million pay cut, and now only getting $25 million per year to work one hour per week

According to the article at R183, "Under her new deal, Maddow will continue to anchor her Monday night show, and also produce podcasts and documentaries. The network is also planning to deploy her as a 'secret weapon' on other shows when there’s breaking news."

So in love with her own voice, why does Joy Ann bother to have guests. Such a "know-it-all." It's interesting to note who of the MSNBC regulars rarely or never appear on her show.

Why do her clothes always seem to be wearing her? Tacky through and through.

I agree, I can listen to Joy go on and on, as she mirrors my own indignation.

Reid is my inner child.

R204 R205 Thank you. Unbeknownst to me, and for some inexplicable reason, I had one sole DL poster set to Ignore, and never saw the article. Now corrected.

R205 Seems odd in this time of uncertainty for the network, that they would be discussing 5 year contracts.

[quote]The network is also planning to deploy her as a 'secret weapon' on other shows when there’s breaking news."

“Breaking news” is the thing she’s absolutely worst at.

[quote]Trump won with 76 million, 2.5 million more than Harris, no great mandate.

R158 continue living in your liberal bubble, but this is just the start.

The real news was that he gained a lot of new young male and overall Hispanic voters.

Thus, more and more Americans will be supporting Trump/Republicans in the coming years.

Liberalism is becoming increasingly taboo and so 20th century.

NO SYMONE????

[quote]Thus, more and more Americans will be supporting Trump/Republicans in the coming years.

People are always saying things like this (both Democrats and Republicans) and then in two years or four years or six years the pendulum swings right back.

R212, is she gone for good or is she just taking Sunday off?

[quote] Liberalism is becoming increasingly taboo

Taboo? And what the fuck does Liberalism have to do with it? The point is Trump won the popular vote by a 1.5% margin, one of the smallest in history. No mandate regardless of how you try to spin it.

R215 I agree that based on the numbers Trump's win is not a mandate - which of course means nothing to him. But because he is so obviously unfit, an inveterate liar, holds extreme views that defy reason and decency, is an aging criminal, and all-around rotten human being, he should be expected to go down in a landslide. In that respect, his win is a mandate, signaling that the country has lost its way.

Yesterday, Symone said she was "just gonna save her breath because it's gonna be a long 4 years." So maybe she's taking some time away.

[quote] I agree that based on the numbers Trump's win is not a mandate - which of course means nothing to him.

Has any modern president who's won by a narrow margin taken that as lesson to govern accordingly?

R218 Some at least make gestures at it. Biden's win wasn't negligible but he made the point he was governing for all, and actually did a fair amount for people in red states. Trump doesn't even pretend, he threatens to penalize regions for lack of support. They had to convince him that he'd won voters in some rural CA counties in order to get him to release funding for wildfire victims. Trump is authentically corrupt.

Biden extended the olive brand and got a bipartisan trillion dollar infrastructure bill pass. If that's not governing for all I don't know what is.

Ugh! Lin Manuel-Miranda, the Puerto Rican Billy Porter.

You're torturing us, Ari.

Monday.

The only safe times to watch MSNBC.

Rachel @9

Lawrence @10

Then back to in bed under the covers...

[quote] Why do her clothes always seem to be wearing her? Tacky through and through.

Dirty fag.

I bet you wish you were licking some dirty anus.

That’s where people make doo doo.

Doo doo!

Nasty!

[quote] I'm beginning to wonder if the Joy troll is a reincarnation of the odious Jake Sherman scat lover.

Definitely.

Rachel switched up her wardrobe on this fine Monday.

Dump won’t arrest and imprison lib anchors-his friends will buy their networks and fire them-the American way.

Musk can craft a parallel career, over-paying for barely profitable assets and running them into the ground. While hopping around like a demonic dipshit.

I'd like to see Jen, Rachel and Lawrence as the line up each weekday night.

Rachel last night talking about the press' reaction to another Trump term, possibly having Joe & Mika in the back of her mind re their cowering visit to Mar-a-Lago:

"The press - turning out to be, yes, weak-kneed and lily-livered as you might fear in some quarters, but also defiant and professional and aggressive and creative in other quarters."

R229 ha ha I have to believe she was singling them out!!!

You can sense her contempt for their go-along-to-get-along capitulation.

WTF is her problem?!!

Poor, poor Mike Schmidt.

Mika and Joe were missing from the last show, "not in today" was the comment. I wonder if they will re-appear or they got a time out.

They usually take all of Thanksgiving week off, you know Mika has to do her shopping to prep the feast, 25 dollar butter and all.

Damn. But that makes sense. I was hoping they'd flounced.

R234 is a buzz killer.

Stephen Miller is a worm. But Kash Patel is a true maggot.

Get Joe Walsh off the screen.

Notwithstanding Democrats bleeding support, the purist at R238 doesn’t want to see any converts to the cause.

I'm also pissed at Joe Walsh. He's one of those that, rather than see Trump disqualified from the race earlier this year, (when Colorado challenged the Supreme Court decision), thought it was best we "beat him at the ballot box!"

Look how well that turned out!

Perhaps we didn't vote hard enough?

And look how trying to get Trump constitutionally disqualified worked out. And it’s also worth noting the SCOTUS decision was unanimous.

And with Trump getting a minimum of 2 more SCOTUS appointments, the Constitution is worth shit for the very very long indefinite future.

Comcast spinning off MSNBC and Elon wants to purchase it. Just like X he will turn it into another pile of hot steamy shit and propaganda. Sadly, as we have learned with Twitter, it does not matter if it loses money, his purpose to to manipulate the public by using social media to push his Trumpian bullshit.

The voluntary attrition following a Musk takeover would immediately deplete the network of talent and value, wiping out most of the viewership, except perhaps what remains for Joe & Mika.

And Katy Tur.

Yes, but just as with Twitter X, the void will be filled with they same type of people essentially creating a FOX v2 called MSNBC.

And? MSNBC is just a bunch of letters. The resistance will resurface somewhere, with a reenergized following. The base is too large to succumb.

OMG. Please hang in there, CNN. Get up, Anderson! We love you!!

Handsome Kevin Madden, former Romney spokesperson, on with Jen now. Oh for the days when Romney was the leader of the Republicans.

Rachel's righteous anger is justified tonight but I just can't watch that anymore. We are losing. No, we have lost.

And Rachel is without any makeup tonight. A sign of sorts.

God Bless Rachel Maddow.

Well when they finally sell of MSNBC and Elon buys it to spread more propaganda, Rachel should consider starting her own small network. I am sure that since she agreed to a 5 million cut in her pay, whoever is negotiating on her behalf has locked in pay with an exit plan.

Rachel + Lawrence= 🔥

The gal on with Jonathan Lemire who couldn’t talk?

So Rachel's show last night referred to Fellow Travelers and what occurred with Matt Bomer's character's father in law....I wish Rachel had mentioned FT last night. Otherwise, her best show in AGES.

In Fellow Travelers, it was a fictional retelling of the Lester Hunt story. Surprising they never made an actual movie about it.

Advise & Consent from '62 used the McCarthy hearings and Hunt's suicide as fictionalized plot points.

R257 Famous for its gay bar scene, and police raid. Featured at least a couple closeted gay cast members. And Betty White's first film.

Wow, never saw this before, Mika Brazinsky sucking up to Trump big time. Full embrace including leg lift. @ 0:57

I’m so sick of Claire McCaskell (sp?), I could spit

She’s on from morning to late afternoon

Does Lawrence have her on? I don’t usually watch his show

Juliette Binoche is on this morning and she's still gorgeous.

I believe that Nicolle and JoeScar have domain over Claire.

Jake Sherman 💩

Maybe, but Claire McK has really appeared on all of MSNBC's line-up. Well, maybe not with Rachel.....

To think there was a time, not too long ago, that a Democrat could get elected to the Senate from Missouri.

^^^For all intents and purposes, the "Show Me" state has shown its ass by transforming into the Midwestern MAGA version of the deep south.

The Great State of Missouri!

Since the election, I’ve only watched 2 episodes of Joy Reid and then I stopped watching anything on MSNBC. It’ll probably be like this for the next 2 years unless someone finds actual proof that Elon Musky rigged the election. What a dumb ass country we live in.

Elon didn't rig the election because he didn't have to. America said here's the keys, would you like me to rim your ass Sir?

R269 Please don't debase or make servile the liberating and uplifting act of rimming.

Is rimming when the man tongue goes up into the man shitter?

You've got Google, R271. Look it up.

I tried to watch Ari Melber tonight and JFC - it is the same show I was watching in October. Nothing's changed. Rehashing everything about his interview with Mr. Full Court Press Insurrectionist, again. We already know all this sh*t. I couldn't take 9 minutes of it. Off.

Mila & Joe-

If you are defending, you are losing.

My God what is this self indulgent rant from Joe???? And Mika sitting there, trying to get a word in, beaming at Joe's defense. My God it's ALL ABOUT THEM. They should be fired for this nonsense straight away. Well so and so did it too!!!

Talk about not being able to read the room, their collapse is complete.

They are blaming the media, the same media they are a part of. The problem with their argument, is that while other news organizations talk to people on background, AKA off the record, they are not personal friends of their going to parties at Mar-a-lago one day, calling him Hitler the next, licking his as when they need ratings. These two really just dont get it.

Keep digging Joe and Mika, that holes getting really deep.

Pour Willie, Rev, Jonathan had to sit through that…

Willie looks like he's participating in a hostage video at this point.

Blink twice Willie, let us know if you are chained to the table.

If they fire Joe and Mika, Willie and Jonathan would be a better duo. They have 'Bro' chemistry. Toss in Katy Kay and the show would be 1000 times more professional. No more KNOW YOUR VALUE or self indulgent Joe rants!

I wish they would fire them, keep the show with the other guests. But I suspect Joe has some unbreakable contract that if he goes, so does the show. I say that because I believe he was the one who came to MSNBC and pitched the show, he was not just a guy they hired to fill that spot. He probably owns part of it.

Make MIKA stop talking.

Oh, great! Kristen Welker is interviewing donald on "Meet the Press" this Sunday.

Probably best-watched on an empty stomach, this interview likely will be yet another nail in MSNBC's coffin.

[quote]If they fire Joe and Mika, Willie and Jonathan would be a better duo.

So, it would be "Morning Willie"?

I'd be good with a Willie/Jonathan sandwich. Just sayin'

Are they making a play for MAGA viewers? I mean, Elon's gonna be their boss soon anyway. They're just being the snakes they always were.

Hang in there, Anderson and CNN. We desperately need you.

Dreadful “people.” I do wish they’d disappear from public life.

They will not go quietly. Mika soiled her fathers reputation and they both destroyed their own. They broke the trust of their audience on both sides. This is not recoverable especially without an apology and some actual understanding of what they did. Doubling down only works for Dump.

I predict they will eventually be forced to leave MSNBC, they will attempt to start their one thing after pitching it to Fox who will reject them. They will spend the final years of their life trying to convince America they did the right thing. Pulling in connections. But just like Tucker Carson, they will quickly become irrelevant. I hope they spend their entire fortune with this failed attempt.

Oh well, at least they can say they never apologized.

What do either of them actually contribute? Joe attempts to relate everything to the experiences of his distant and brief political career, offset by faux outrage rants. Mika parrots whatever the prevailing position is they've decided to adopt. In essence, the show is about what the guests bring. And the banter. They've got a tired but cushy perch, and will try to defend it at any cost. Too bad for them, the audience ain't buying it anymore.

Blue Chew?

^^^The Blue Chew team must have upped its advertising budget for primetime commercials. Within 30 minutes on MSNBC, there's already been two of them.

December 4th article:

Chris Hayes had Texas Rep. Greg Casar, the new Chair of the Progressive Caucus, on his show tonight. Very cute.

No matter, I've stopped watching MJ and don't miss it and them at all.

R293 They know the demographic.

On Twitter:

“Dear Joe and Mika,

You are NOT NY Times reporters. You're not reporters at all. Your refusal to HEAR what your critics, your own viewers, are saying is not only gross but it's hypocritical. And Mika laughing makes it even worse. And WE know what Frum meant. You're scapegoating”

Peter Thiel, Elon Musk, now David Sacks as the Ai Crypto czar. Come one, come all cronies. WH is Open For Business. Somehow this time I don't think we'll see a press conference with stacks of blank paper fronting as Trump divesting all assets that might pose a conflict of interest. No, not when he has a meme crypto token of his own, a social media site, and is hawking a new line of cologne, to go with the NFT's, trading cards, bibles, footwear, and watches. It's so tawdry, the normalization of corruption.

The White House press room is history. He already tried it one and totally failed remember? This time he want's to stack it with "influencers" like Joe Rogan and lock out traditional media. Well good luck with that. I doubt Joe or other right wing nuts making millions sitting in their garage studio really want to fly to DC and sit there 5 days a week to ask one question. It will be entertaining for a few weeks until everyone gets board and it will sink like a lose turd in the toilet.

Did THE COWARDS TAKE THE DAY OFF?

I hope MSNBC has somehow suspended them but I guess it’s their own show.

It’s a better show without them.-just the facts-not the ego crap.

Just the facts are not going to blunt the Fox/Advertising/Marketing/Analytics noise machine.

Joe should have taken an Own The MAGA's attitude and attacked both Trump AND Murdoch.

MSNBC must shitcan them. If nothing else, to make a statement about ethics and integrity. Every day that goes by, with these two whores sitting smugly on their dais, is a day that loses more viewers and lessens MSNBC’s status.

Defending David Frum is a weird place to be, but his "flippant" remark, aside from being apt, can't compare in terms of offensive and disparaging commentary, with what they spew on any average day on Fox's num we ous opinion shows. You have to believe, J & M want to keep all options open wrt a place to land when things at MSNBC fizzle.

^numerous

Joe - Ronald Reagan blah, blah, blah

Mika - Come to the Know Your Value Conference in Dubai with all of the other wealthy women who don't need jobs.

Remember when Joe balanced the budget in Congress?

Where better to learn your value than Dubai, elderly infidel females?

[quote] Keep digging Joe and Mika, that hole's getting really deep.

Preemptive obedience refers to adjusting behaviors based on assumptions of expectations from authority, without overt coercion. It is a form of self-regulation that grants power to authority without force.

Wonder if they've asked Biden for a pardon yet.

The reopening of Notre Dame is Saturday but I can't find the time.

Let me rephrase. I can't find what time it will be on.

Stephanie Ruhle's sweater is embroidered with the words "Robin Hood."

R313 From CNN

Macron will give a speech in front of the cathedral at around 6 p.m. (12 p.m. ET). The Archbishop of Paris Laurent Ulrich will then strike the closed cathedral doors with his crozier, an ornate staff.

[quote]Where better to learn your value than Dubai, elderly infidel females?

Well, the mandatory separation in every place like Starbucks to a separate floor in the malls just gives us ladies of power the space we have been asking for. Why wouldn't you want that? - Mika

R296, I’m with you. Haven’t watched them in weeks and don’t miss them.

R306, when RFK, Jr., is likely a candidate for the GOP’s ‘28 presidential nomination, & David Frum is an OG Never Trumper, you know we’ve experienced a seismic political realignment.

I hope the moderate Republicans start carving out a real place in politics - perhaps a new party?

R119, the moderate Republicans, who are typically the college educated ones, have already largely left their former party.

We shall see if they start declining Trump's nomination in committees.

We know they are pissing themselves that Trump is nominating defective, unqualified.

Agnotology is the science, advertising is the application.

Will the "real" Republicans resist.

R315 Trump arrived looking rather stoop-ed. The name tags had Jill Biden seated on Trump's right. Madame Macron kindly took the chair acting as a buffer between the two. Musk got an invite, he probably donated to the restoration. Apologies to all the foreign dignitaries who had to make nice with our POS President-elect.

^^^We're making nice with him, but we have spent each day after November 5th prepping for the drastic changes that may come, while trying to shield our people from any potential effects.

Trump flatters himself that they all fear him. But doesn't gather that they fear him like a putrid disease.

The Sky Isn’t Falling for Cable News TV Ratings (Yet):

Sorry Mika, its not about "cable news" its about YOU and JOE must go.

Eight minutes into her interview and Kirsten Welker has called donald "sir" thrice

Too many people are calling Trump President Trump, he's not there yet. It's President Biden now.

Symone is partying it up on her Instagram Stories.

Just remembered! At one point Mika interviewed Kris Jenner. It was hard to watch Mika praising this person whose career is pimping her daughter’s and making sure she gets a good cut. Two cunts who really know their value.

Sir, is the substitute for President until inauguration.

r330, pimping her daughter's what??

Keira Knightley was on Morning Joe and both Mika and Joe were running their mouths so much Keira barely had a chance to get a word in. Rude!

I’m praying that the recent announcement of moving Jonathan Lamire to co-host status on MJ signals that the twin whores are about to be shitcanned. Also glad to see Ali Vitali get a chance with her own new show.

Interesting to note how slowly this thread is moving these days as so many posters have moved away from watching MSNBC, including myself.

R334 it was announced over the summer that Lemire would be hosting the 9:00 hour.

I think this just means Joe and Mika will only be on live from 6-8 and available during the 8am rebroadcast for breaking news.

This was a new announcement from yesterday.

So Lemire opens with Way Too Early 5-6 and now closes the 9-10 hour?

I think Rashida is renegotiation the MJ Trinity for the post MSNBC spin-off.

I think it would be brilliant if Comcast spun off MSNBC from NBC and created a direct Comcast Fox/OAN/Newsmax Infotainment competitor. Let Kornacki do analytics on Fox's lies and opinion pushing.

Then they can spin off the MJ Trio and Lemire can continue closing for Dateline on NBC.

And to think just a few months ago they were bullish enough to hold a live confab with all the MSNBC hosts, and charge hundreds of dollars a ticket to attend. Where it was evident from the sea of gray that the median age of viewers is 71 - a whole 6 years older than Faux News. Clearly a dying business.

That's why the new Enquirer type spin off will apply to the youngins.

[quote]So Lemire opens with Way Too Early 5-6 and now closes the 9-10 hour?

Ali Vitale is taking over Way Too Early.

The fault lies with Rashida Jones who seems clueless with regard to both her MSNBC audience and talent. Does she provide no guidance to her producers and on-air staff?

What will launching an Ali Vitali show deliver besides the samo samo?

We have sufficient, Rashida; buy a new cookie cutter. Meanwhile, many MSNBC viewers are exploring other options.

I explored Jim Acosta this morning.

Yikes! That's Jay McInerny talking with Ari?

I haven't seen attorney Ken Dilanian in a very long time on MSNBC. He appeared tonight on Chris Hayes' show (Ayman guest hosting). WOW - did he get old looking. Either he's ill, or just aging rapidly at 55. His hair is going gray, he lost so much weight, his eyes are sunken in. Very skeletal face, he looks awful. Poor guy was once so handsome and sexy.

I think Ken looks good.

r343, it seems that Rashida uses W2E as a holding place for men and a step out the door for women.

Funny that they didn't offer it back to purple leg.

Aging isn’t pretty.

Dilanian stayed under the radar for a couple years because of his inaccurate reporting for NYT. Mostly in favor of Trump. He was kind of like a lil bro to Maggie Habermann.

R346 His obsessive teeth whitening is what ultimately took its toll.

R350 What do you mean ? I haven't heard this. I thought he got promoted at NBC / MSNBC.

Fucking Joy Reid and her theatrical speed-talking; she thinks she's being oh, so clever while her guest and we are wondering what she's saying.

What a stupid, raggedy bitch!

I switched over to CNN and totally stopped watching that dumb cunt with her cheap ass wigs and hacked blog.

Thank god, and thank you r354.

Neither progressive cables are dependable these days-what to do?

Ahh, bothisiderism returns. Sorry but MSNBC may say they hate Trump but then theu go over the malevolent facts.

Fox is just OWN THE LIBS. IMMIGRANTS ARE EATING THE DOGS. PUTIN IS OUR FRIEND.

All without any foundation.

I love when Mika tries to restore order with her sighs, and Joe, Willie and Jonathan talk over and ignore her.

Yes-She is pathetic and so obvious. And they both will survive their trump-suck up because we have so few progressive news outlets.

Nothing but Prez-erect Dump ringing bell at stock exchange. ‘’Cable News Sanewashes Elected Criminal’’.

The degree to which everyone is just folding, amid Trump's continued craziness, augers some truly dark days ahead.

[quote] The degree to which everyone is just folding, amid Trump's continued craziness, augers some truly dark days ahead.

I’ve been saying the exact same thing.

I have no proof but I strongly feel that somehow someway, that damn Elon stole the election.

How did Lawrence O'Donnell wind up seated across from Joy Reid today? He's not pleased to be there, and his annoyance is evident.

Her annoyance is even more evident.

Turn off Joy Reid. She's awful. Tank her ratings so they take her off the 7pm slot.

Lawrence is pushing his charity called the KIND fund, which affects black kids in Africa so of course Joy is all over it.

R365 And replace her with whom ? Matt Gaetz is taken already. Then again, Pete Hegseth might be looking for something on television, sooner than later.

I did hear Lawrence do a hand-off to the11th hour with Stephanie Ruhle. Not a live handoff like Nicole and Ari, or Chris and Alex, but he was clearly saying stay tuned. Is that new for him, or have I missed it in the past? Just accustomed to him saying - And that 's the last word from so-and-so.

Joe and Mika off again, and hmmmm......chemistry testing with Jon Lemiere and Willie co-hosting. The lack of blather and ego and sighs is a nice change. Morning Willie and Jon???? Morning Wilon???

Sarah Longwell brings it.

the full panel.

Thanks, R370 and R371.

Luke Russert on 11th Hour. He’s wearing the worst wiglet on tv. Absolutely hideous. What is he, 30 years old?!?

I agree, R373. Horrible. He's 39 and it makes him look 5-10 years older. Do better, Luke.

Luke Russert? I thought he gave up trying to be a news person because it was not his life goal to live in his father's shadow? Then went on a 10 year binge of grief traveling the world getting over his father's death of natural causes. Another nepo baby, Mika and Joe were sort of trying to groom him like Kasie Hunt. He would not be on my list of people to replace the ring kissers.

MSNBC-Morning Joke with Joe and Mika.

Symone is BACK!!!!

Symone is a moron

[quote]Symone is BACK!!!!

Who invited her?

Symone is a big disappointment. Just parrots what we already know. What’s next sister? Normalize Trump?

The plan all along for Luke, after his me-centric voyage of discovery, was to come back and slide into a high profile anchor slot. Even his mother recognizes that he wanked off for too long, and told him so at a press-laden party. He'll be relegated to some human interest reporting gig, ala Charles Keralt or Willie Geist's dad.

Unfortunately, no more live reporting from Marc Caputo in his tank top, he's moving from the Bulwark to Axios in January, still on the FLA beat. If he doesn't evict any more people, he might even be showing up more on MSNBC again.

What a body on Caputo ! I'd love to have him fuck me.

Smoooov. Did they rank them?

I am not surprised that there's been a mass exodus from cable news given the outcome of the election. I think this will be temporary until the effects of the tRump presidency start to become reality.

Caputo is still the man but way back in the day he was the God of Tank Tops.The combination of tank tops, tan,muscles,blondness and personality and I-I -I gotta go…

R386 Any photos to share from the good ol' days of Caputo ?

What’s the deal with Capitol? Is he one of us?

Marc Caputo is married ... to a woman. His wife is a public school teacher. They have at least two daughters.

Have to giggle at these newbies who are just discovering the mighty fine Marc who we've talked about a lot here in these threads, though maybe not so recently.

Marc definitely cheated on that woman.

You can tell.

For the troll who posts about Chris Hayes’ physique-he’s looking swollen, not swole, these days

Only because he was ‘’friend of Rachel’’ did he get this gig. He’s a total waste and he is more bloated every time we see him.Married with children so expect him to blot even more and don’t be surprised if he starts sane washing Dump just to collect a paycheck.

Another episode of Morning Joke begins in a few hours. What shenanigans will they be up to tomorrow? For so long they were a port in the storm of trump madness but no more. I don’t watch anymore so I don’t know if there was an apology to viewers? Feel sorry for their coworkers and guests.

[quote] don’t be surprised if he starts sane washing Dump just to collect a paycheck.

Wyt Schitt is a terrible judge of character. Something Chris Hayes has in spades, compared to those who enjoy taking easy pot-shots at his growing physique.

Chris Hayes must be a stress eater. He’s blowing up.

Maybe Hayes retains fluids (not healthy) and needs Lasix ? Or maybe he goes on and off Lasix ?

Morning Joke is trying to do a bit of a makeover on Mika. Twice now she has been wearing a suit jacket similar to Joe trying to appear as a an equal or legitimate reporter instead of the "wife of" that she was so used to. She's not sighing as much or doing the Joe is my husband praises as much. All just window dressing. They burned that bride and no one is coming back. Not for a long time at best. Rumor has it they might replace them with Jonathan Lemire and maybe Willie.

[quote]They burned that bride

Pics please.

Mika & Joe have been in that NYC Studio for the last 3 weeks 👀

Please replace with Willie and John and his Willie.

Mika wearing a suit jacket is hardly going to make me watch MJ again. Rachel Maddow, she is not.

I ❤️ Basil Smikle, always the voice of sanity and reason.

Once again, had to turn off Rachel. Her outrage is justified but I can no longer take it when things are so depressingly hopeless.

I did too, R404.

Is Leigh Ann Caldwell transitioning?

R404 Things aren’t just depressingly hopeless things are dangerously hopeless. Thinking of selling Ca house buying in Mississippi and bury the profits in the basement for emergencies.

^^^Mississippi? The has to be better options if you're just looking for a place less expensive than California. That would be the last state I'd ever choose.

I picture Mississippi as what my home state of Texas would be if there were no large metro areas like Dallas-Ft. Worth, Houston, Austin and San Antonio present. Deep south states that aren't particularly attractive to businesses, have stagnant or declining populations, high poverty rates, poor perceptions and are outright hostile to foreign-born immigrants tend to be the bottom of the barrel, most backward places in the country and all of those negative qualities are found in abundance in Mississippi.

[quote] Thinking of selling Ca house buying in Mississippi

That's odd, most people will be running TOOO California for protection from Dump, not to the deep south. CA is one of the few states big enough and with deep pockets to take on that orange turd.

I've heard from several former CA neighbors who decamped to Austin, now having regrets. I'm sure some have adjusted, but the radical direction of things politically in TX is not looking any better under Trump 2.0. Mississippi wouldn't be much better. If you're looking to conserve resources, have you considered New Mexico R407 ?

[quote] I ❤️ Basil Smikle

My dream, to be spitroasted by Basil and Jelani Cobb.

After a month and a half hiatus, I tried watching Deadline Whitehouse today. Four minutes in, I lost my shit after a few seconds into a clip of Lara Trump. Spewing obscenities at the screen, at the top of my lungs, I had to exit the app. Not sure when/if I'll try again.

I think many-me included check in with MSNBC from time to time but quickly shut it down.

Tried Ari Melber again last night and shut it off at 5:07 pm CST. Done.

Luff Ari! Cannot get enough.

Poor Mike Schmidt!

Many HaHa breaks out in laughter after Rep. Clyburn tells her he ran home from Capitol Hill today ... to eulogize a close personal friend.

Where's Alicia? Where's Katy P? Where's Basil?

It may not be pertinent, but where's Barb McQuade? these days.

Nicolle sounded sick, it makes sense that Ari stepped in.

Ari (and his warped, trivializing sense of humor) alienates many MSNBC viewers, particularly in stressful times like these.

Between Ari's insistent references to Rap lyrics and Mika and Joe's ring kissing rants, I am surprised they still have even 10 viewers left.

Hey Reshida, since it looks like you are cleaning house and about to get rid of Mika and Joe, do your job and tell Ari to focus on the news and stop badgering his guest to play along with bad taste in music.

Note to MSNBC: [bold]READ THE ROOM! [/bold]

Your audience was left leaning progressives, not right wing MAGAts and disgruntled Republicans from Fox. They are NEVER moving over to MSNBC. GET THAT THROUGH YOUR HEAD.

The word is Steve Bannon watches more MSNBC than any other cable news outlet. He's still obsessed with it, even as it flounders.

I don’t want a left or right view. I want a neutral view that tells the truth and just delivers the facts

All of cable news could disappear and I wouldn’t miss it

MSNBC is as bad fox news. Rachel and Lawrence would do well with a podcast news show. The rest, including , Most of the bought talking heads (lookining at you Clair McCaskell) are useless and repeat the same shit ad nauseam

Totally agree r423!

More MAGAT troll(s). ^

[quote]MSNBC is as bad fox news.

When there is proof that MSNBC commentators knowingly withheld the truth regarding a credible election to aide the delusion of a president and his delusional supporters, which culminated in an attempt to disrupt the constitutional order, then you can make a case that the network is as bad as Fox News. Otherwise, you and I both know that's complete bullshit.

The only body that can save MSNBC is the Democratic Caucus in the US Congress. Elected Democrats need to PUT ON A FUCKING SHOW challenging and making the toxic MuskyDump agenda IMPOSSIBLE to achieve, thus giving MSNBC and other media have something juicy to cover.

Viewers will flock back to the channel if they can watch the irretrievably stupid, compromised, inept Republicans get banged hard and put away wet.

Dems need to grow a set, block and tackle and show no mercy. They will have delivered MSNBC more viewers that they know what to do with.

So Rashida, maybe lobby Democrats to fight like hell rather than try to coerce Republicans to appear on your dying network. KNOW YOUR FUCKING AUDIENCE.

WE WANT JUSTICE

[quote]So Rashida, maybe lobby Democrats to fight like hell rather than try to coerce Republicans to appear on your dying network.

More than half of their "talent" are Republicans.

They are FORMER Republicans and like former smokers, more vociferous than Democrats. They know all there is to know. They experienced it.

No one more zealous than a convert.

Yeah, I'm happy we have the Lincoln Project and Steve Schmidt (though I think he was kicked out of the Lincoln Project?) And of course our lovely cacklebox Nicolle. And handsome Mitt (when he's behaving). And Liz. Jen Rubin. Etc... Hope we get more on our side.

And how did I forget Tim Miller on the Bulwark? Love him, down there in New Orleans with his hubby and cute little girl. Roulez on, Tim!

R427 I agree once Musk and Co. start derailing our democracy, sane folks are going to rise up and everyday, much like Trump's first term, are going to flock back to MSNBC, I don't think they'll ever trust the Morning Joe twosome, but Rachel, Lawrence, Chris and Nicolle will be on it, and Joy Reid will be the most upfront about it.

[quote]MSNBC is as bad fox news.

NOPE! We are NOT playing both sides game here. Please point to where MSNBC was caught lying over and over again to the point where they paid out 787 MILLION dollars in a defamation lawsuit. We will wait.

^^^Yes, R434. MSNBC wasn't complicit in the attempts to dismantle our democracy. Fox News is the lowest of the low and no other network has gone as far down in the gutter as they have and continue to do.

Sorry but I am over "former" Republicans in MSNBC. They delivered NOTHING in this election. They did not convince other Republicans at all to vote for Harris. They just made it harder because every statement was "while I disagree with many of the Democrats platform....l" They are wolves in sheep's clothing. Anti-Trumpers but the minute the Republican party elects someone like Little Marco they will flock back to the Repug party.

If MSNBC wants to survive they need to read the room and make a big shift to the left and stop dipping their toe in both sides BS. Bring back the only left commentator with balls, Medi Hassan. Who cares if he ruffled a few feathers, do you think FOX cares about that? They embrace it! THAT is why they are number one now in ratings.

Well said r436! 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼

MSNBC is best when the right is in power. Ratings will likely shoot up as the Republicans start fucking up and we are reintroduced to the chaos that is Donald J. Trump. Plus that's the start of the campaign for the 2026 midterms in our never ending election campaign cycle.

R436 The ubermensch with balls MSNBC commentator, Kieth Olbermann, is probably available. Also crazy as balls. I think he'd easily amass an audience.

Yeah, a lot of people keeps saying they should bring Olbermann back.

[quote]...Keith Olbermann, is probably available ...

"Over my dead body!"

(phone rings): "What is it, Rashida? Your office? I'll be right there."

On Olbermann's most recent podcast, he shredded Joe S and especially Mika, in the only way HE can....I forgot how hilarious he can be. You guys should check it out.

Too tired to link. You all know how to use google and You Tube.

Keith knows where all the bodies are buried, and who among the living is talking out their ass. And can deliver the dirt in an entertaining manner.

Keith nailed MSNBC in the Variety interview, (which he hilariously read out loud in the above-mentioned paragraph, while adding additional commentary Variety deliberately edited out).

I really think MSNBC might strike a hit if they rehired Keith. Going far-left might be the only way to salvage ratings. They've got no more to lose at this point!

No You Tube account; anyone know how to bypass the "not a bot sign in" in every DL YT link?

Thanks.

I know he essentially got Rachel, among others, a job. He definitely has well-established issues with Lawrence and Joe, that he's discussed in detail. I'm wondering what forces might array against bringing Olbermann back. You'd hope they could be put aside in the interest of saving MSNBC.

I'm happy to find my fave, Hans Nichols, over on CNN. He's been MIA from MSNBC, with the rare appearance on "The 11th Hour."

Drama?

[quote]I'm wondering what forces might array against bringing Olbermann back.

Maybe the fact that he's unstable and crazy?

Yamiche "Breathless Mumbles" Alcindor is covering the noon through 3pm time block this week?

No thanks.

Did they give all the regular hosts the week off? Where I worked that would not happen and we weren't even on tv.

Most of them. Holiday weeks are contracted. I wonder if Rachel will be in on Christmas Monday?

So, who's the lineup tonight?

Jen Psaki is working.

So is Maddow.

And we know that Lawrence lives for the Maddow hand-off.

I love how Rachel uses the word shambolic as opposed to the phrase FUCKED UP.

IT IS AN INTELLECTUAL SLIGHT IF HAND ...

Lawrence really hates Gaetz to the point he is stumbling over his sentences.

Lawrence and I hate the same Trump Ass-ociates.

Stephanie Ruhl is also working.