JD Vance says US could drop support for NATO if Europe tries to regulate Elon Musk’s platforms
JD Vance has suggested that American support for NATO should be predicated on the European Union not regulating Elon Musk and his X social media platform, formerly known as Twitter.
The Republican vice presidential nominee and Ohio senator claimed in an interview with YouTuber Shawn Ryan that a top EU official had threatened to arrest the billionaire if he allowed former President Donald Trump back on X.
“The leader, I forget exactly which official it was within the European Union, but sent Elon this threatening letter that basically said, ‘We’re going to arrest you if you platform Donald Trump,’ who, by the way, is the likely next president of the United States,” Vance said in the interview published last week.
Trump’s running mate then suggested that US support for NATO should be used as a cudgel to get the Europeans in line.
“So what America should be saying is, if NATO wants us to continue supporting them and NATO wants us to continue to be a good participant in this military alliance, why don’t you respect American values and respect free speech?” Vance asked. “It’s insane that we would support a military alliance if that military alliance isn’t going to be pro-free speech. I think we can do both. But we’ve got to say American power comes with certain strings attached. One of those is respect free speech, especially in our European allies.”
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| by Anonymous | reply 23 | November 10, 2024 7:18 PM
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| by Anonymous | reply 1 | November 10, 2024 5:02 PM
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Welcome to the Oligarchy.
| by Anonymous | reply 3 | November 10, 2024 5:04 PM
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Vance said he wants the government to take over universities. So much for free speech
| by Anonymous | reply 4 | November 10, 2024 5:06 PM
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Yup r3. It's almost like this administration will be all about the billionaires and their private interests, and not the problems of the struggling working class.
Weird.
| by Anonymous | reply 5 | November 10, 2024 5:08 PM
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R4, I’m absolutely sure the govt will restrict grants to universities if they don’t toe the conservative line
| by Anonymous | reply 6 | November 10, 2024 5:12 PM
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What a rank amateur. Now we get to find out how inexperienced this asshole is.
EU regulations and NATO have nothing to do each other.
I imagine “Europe” will say, “Can you please put an adult on the phone?”
Thinking that the whole of the EU is going to bend to Trump 2.0 is a fucking joke. I’m sure the EU has been preparing for new trade relationships and foreign policy allies that don’t include Trump - especially since they know it’ll all go to hell in 6 months.
They’ve been looking at ways to insulate themselves from this disaster for at least the last 2 years and realise that a re-alignment of the world order is an opportunity for them as well.
| by Anonymous | reply 8 | November 10, 2024 5:23 PM
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We’re gonna get a new thread for every dumb thing that comes out of these jackals’ mouths over the next four years? These guys are real life trolls who love to blow smoke that “makes the libs cry.” 90% of this bullshit won’t come to fruition, just like Trump’s first term. But DLers will still Mary out over every bit of it.
| by Anonymous | reply 9 | November 10, 2024 5:31 PM
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Sorry, r9, but the US President has a great deal of authority over us foreign relations, and dangerous pronouncements like this are worthy of attention . So yes, we are going to pay attention to “ every dumb thing that comes out of these jackals’ mouths over the next four years”
| by Anonymous | reply 10 | November 10, 2024 5:36 PM
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Yeah yeah I know. Democracy is over! There will be no more elections! 😂
| by Anonymous | reply 11 | November 10, 2024 5:37 PM
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If Donald Trump could figure out a way to stay in power forever, he would do it, and his party would back him. Glad you find that so funny.
| by Anonymous | reply 12 | November 10, 2024 5:43 PM
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[quote]We’re gonna get a new thread for every dumb thing that comes out of these jackals’ mouths over the next four years? 90% of this bullshit won’t come to fruition, just like Trump’s first term.
Pretty much R9. Remember the turmoil, chaos, fireworks and the "what did he do/tweet last night?" every day of the first Trump presidency? Well, this Trump term will be that on steroids. They have nothing to lose and they're highly organized this time and very determined to make up for lost time so it's going to be wall to wall Trump threads about it here and everywhere else for the next 5 years. The whole media will be wall to wall Trump & co before they lose their licenses. Every. Single. Day. All. Day. And. Night. Trump.
| by Anonymous | reply 13 | November 10, 2024 5:48 PM
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That’s what I feared, R13. I can avoid the news but DL is the one place where I won’t be able to get away from Trump. 🤦♂️
| by Anonymous | reply 14 | November 10, 2024 6:03 PM
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It's so alpha to publicly threaten. God, that's hot, JD! Whew he must be beating the lusty couches off him after this proclaimtion.
What a man!
| by Anonymous | reply 15 | November 10, 2024 6:29 PM
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Maybe we will need the politics filter implemented again around here R14. Remember that? But it's not even a week since the election so things will calm down a bit around here soon. Wouldn't you rather be informed though? I know I would. The bad news is that you're not going to be able to get away from Trump anywhere :( :( :(
| by Anonymous | reply 16 | November 10, 2024 6:33 PM
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R4 Berkeley, UCLA and the UC system will be here, and thriving, long after Vance is a dessicated mound of ash in gold-plate shoebox.
| by Anonymous | reply 17 | November 10, 2024 6:39 PM
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R12 But he can’t, so they won’t.
| by Anonymous | reply 18 | November 10, 2024 6:40 PM
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Democracy is fragile. I find it funny that so many Americans think that American democracy is a given - it isn’t.
I think it is over. Vance and Thiel don’t believe in democracy - they think it impedes the free market . Apathetic voters, idiots and delusional third party voters have dealt a death blow to this country
| by Anonymous | reply 19 | November 10, 2024 6:42 PM
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Come back at the mid-terms and talk to us.
| by Anonymous | reply 20 | November 10, 2024 6:44 PM
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But that they would want to install him for life is a problem for me even if I don’t think they can. Sorry you can’t grasp the issue.
| by Anonymous | reply 21 | November 10, 2024 6:44 PM
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Yeah right Vance. Under dump we are officially out of NATO
| by Anonymous | reply 23 | November 10, 2024 7:18 PM
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