News sites you trust post-election

The Guardian. Dropped the NYT this week. Reason given to them: sanewashing Dump.

OP, check out Cheri Jacobus YouTube page. She's been my go-to reliable source for the past few days.

And thank you for this thread. Great idea! I would like to know myself.

The Guardian & PBS.

PBS? I will add that to my list of fake news to be taken down. - DJT

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Joe Biden's X

Maybe the accounts of tech bros who are suspicious of Trump and aren't chomping away at the trough like Elon

Also going to subscribe to the Guardian.

Kara Swisher is another great source:

The Atlantic is good more than not, for longer pieces. For quick takes on at least half of everything, I check in on DailyBeast 2x a day.

A lot of progressive are moving to Threads form X.

"Trust" is a big word. Sites I somewhat respect for what seems like comparatively solid reporting: El Pais, The Economist, The Financial Times (yes, neoliberal, but has improved my understanding of international economics and sometimes politics and is therefore worth a subscription); The New Statesman (I also have a print subscription), and NRC and Groene Amsterdammer in the Netherlands, where I live. De Standaard in Belgium. I'm more skeptical about sites like Quillette and UnHerd but occasionally read articles on their sites by contributors whose viewpoints interest me.

I like Benjamin Moser's Substack.

The Guardian's parent company is over £60 million in debt and in talks to sell off its Observer Sunday paper (whose print edition I like and often buy). I do support the Guardian with a measly 10 euros a month. It's too tabloidy for my liking with all the celebrity news, but I'd still miss it if it were gone.

I like Spoutible. It’s the closest format to Twitter.

CSPAN

WJM-TV

“SNL” Weekly Update

I would suggest Reuters.

Yep, at this point why not just rely on SNL. Legacy media didnt have the balls to stand for Democracy.

I don't want to read any news for a while.

PBS.

Associated Press

Has anyone subscribed to the news service that Randy Rainbow has been advertising on his song parodies? "Ground News"

The Babylon Bee

France24 and Deutsche Welle both have English channels. The Guardian’s columnists are a joke.

The Media Bias chart from All Sides Media shows where various sources align.

[quote]I am sticking with The Guardian, but I'm wondering what else there is.

HOWLING.

The Guardian regularly publishes notorious Jew haters, Putin apologists and Islamists.

They are as biased as you can get.

In the last few days a journalist complained that his article on obscure whiskies from around the world was edited to remove a paragraph on an Israeli whisky, and it was then restored with no explanation.

And yes, the opinion articles are fucking shite.

And The Guardian censored and bullied two women who wanted to cover stories that have turned into national scandals.

The Guardian staff members who signed the letter to attack Suzanne Moore claimed it wasn't an attack on Suzanne Moore, but when the letter was leaked it was briefed as being about Suzanne Moore.

And this thread shouldn't be "News sites you trust" it should be "News sites who tell me what I want to hear"

I listen to the “Letters from an American” newsletter/podcast for summaries of the news and appreciate the historical context that Heather Richardson gives.

The Mar-a-Lago Times-Dispatch

The Cultural Affairs Section

R25 Great Choice. I also follow Greg Olear, below is his latest.

What kind of news? Political news? None

Australia's ABC is pretty good. It's the public broadcaster and well trusted by Australians.

Like the BBC, ABC Radio National also provides podcasts on a big range of subjects, some offering more depth of political analysis. You can also trust its Health Report, should news from that department go awry for any reason in the US. I've provided the direct link, but you should find most of them on your regular pod provider.

They are all too interested in the bottom line - their finances. The Internet introduced click bait and we have been lost in it for at least a decade. The respectable US media behaved atrociously with the sane washing of Trump. But hey, our Attorney General didn't bother to DO HIS FUCKING JOB and lock up this criminal menace. It was the Senate and Justice's job to clean up the Trump mess and they refused. What can the media do? You have a Congress and Justice Department that runs on the click bait and "alternative facts" world view. They use all that to stay in power and serve their $$$$$ overlords. Scum.

Suzanne Moore was a huge loss for The Guardian - a great columnist. Some of the current Guardian opinion writers can be insufferable, but the news reporting is good and some of the opinion and analysis pieces are still worth reading.

I receive Heather Cox Richardson's overnight newsletter by email most mornings.

I highly recommend her.

Evidently she has a very successful Substack going on.

R13 I have Reuters set up as my homepage. I quickly scan the headlines each morning. For now, they still report the news and not opinions and wishes and dreams.

Hadley Freeman was also bullied out of The Guardian. She had wanted to write about the multiple Mermaids scandals and was told she wasn't allowed to.

When the story broke about Mermaids appointing a paedophile to their board of trustees The Guardian didn't report on it. They completely ignored it. Even the BBC reported on it.

Over a month later The Guardian published an article defending Mermaids as part of a PR damage limitation exercise. The disgraced Chief Executive Susie Green gave her account of what had happened with the paedophile. Green was sacked days later.

The Guardian deliberately suppressed reporting of a scandal because of ideological beliefs.

AP, NPR & PBS. Those and the Guardian are the ones have I used since Trump's first term.

I would imagine NPR and PBS being silenced sometime in the near future. Not sure about AP.

r9 Because Zuck isn't a big Trump supporter either? We going to pretend he didn't praise Trump?

R36 Agreed. Threads is a terrible idea. Progressives should move to Bluesky.

Yeah, it's a great thing for progressives to move to an echo chamber where they talk to each other and don't get exposed to opinions they disagree with.

That will help the Democrats win the next election.

The non-support of Harris by the Washington Post was a real blow to me. Up to that point I had assumed that Bezos kept a distance to the editorial piece of the Post and that the Post was somewhat independent from his business needs. This non-support was a big fat kowtow. Bezos did not want to be outmusked. So he sacrificed the Post. Not sure the Post can recover from that.

The LA Times kowtow was less of a blow to me because I kinda had expected it considering the activist ownership.

I heavily recommend The Economist. New sites and cable news channels are usually crowded with lots of noise that isn't needed to be well informed. News outlets (cable or online) in the US are focusing too heavily on individuals rather than issues. All news is about someone, not something. I get it. This sells better. But it doesn't inform well. Instead of Trump's latest antics I'd find it more helpful to actually devote an hour on his minion's policies. Don't you rather want to hear more about the issues of net neutrality, environmental policies pros and cons, good immigration policy etc? Chances are you will rather hear about Trump's latest xenophobic rant.

Since the Economist is mainly a weekly outlet, they can focus on what matters longer term. They are more about analysis and not at all about breaking news. Politically I consider them dead-center, center left on social issues, center right on economic issues. Either way I find them heavily fact based. Maybe they really are, or my own bias is completely aligned with theirs and I just don't notice. Economist is still my preferred information source.

Suzanne Moore has plainly said that the Guardian does not report on anything that's outside its ideological remit.

The Guardian is good for some of its cultural content (Alexis Petridis for music, Peter Bradshaw for film, and its Saturday literary section).

r38 It worked for Republicans

Same as before, none. ALL media is psyop and propaganda. You can manipulate people emotionally through fear or by raising false hope. All media does this with every "editorial," with every supposed "news report," with every opinion piece. What's true for old guard/legacy media is doubly true for platforms like talking Points Memo and Daily Beast, which are the same as Fox news and any other RWNJ publication, just customized to appeal to (and manipulate) liberals. Same goes for supposed "balanced" or "progressive" media. If you go on a complete media fast for, say, a month, you won't even notice it is gone, but you will notice you have much less anxiety, fear, and depression. Gradually, you'll experience fewer sharp mood swings. The additional benefit is you will no longer be susceptible to the media and other control mechanisms. After your media fast, you might decide to check-in to what's being reported one day, and you will immediately recognize the manipulative structuring of the "reporting." The propaganda will be so loud, that you cannot deny it exists. After this check-in, you can resume your life and the media fast will become permanent. For those who would protest and say "but I want to stay informed" - well, you don't need to read or pay attention to the media with any depth or regularity in order to know what's going on. The "need to know" impulse is what these orgs depend upon to pull you in. Once you've been sucked in, the NLP (Neuro-Linguistic programming) and other control mechanisms begin to massage and affect your perspective and eventually your mood.

[quote] [R9] Because Zuck isn't a big Trump supporter either? We going to pretend he didn't praise Trump?

Why do you call him "Zuck," when that's what he wants to be called by his sycophants?

[quote] A lot of progressive are moving to Threads form X.

Progressives aren't worth the time to follow because most of them do not like moderate or liberal Democrats. It's the same with progressive YouTube channels like Majority Report with Sam Seder, The Young Turks, and Leftist Mafia. They all hate any Democrat who isn't on the progressive spectrum.

There aren't any trustworthy news sources. I used to think Katrina vanderHeuvel had it together over at the nation but then she got into doing celebrity cruises to cuba and I realize she's just a corrupt whore.

Chris Hughes was a massive fuckup over at New Republic

I guess Mother Jones still stands and the Utne Reader. Those are my top two.

If you want daily news that doesn't totally suck ass try The Globe and Mail. They're Canadian and sometimes consrvative influenced, but not in the crude violent way of the American press (including the New York Times)

R21: ABC, CBS and Bloomberg are Left wing? HAHAHAHAHAHAHA. That site is useless.

The WSJ used to be relatively sane but now they re straight up party mouthpiece for the Republicans. Barron was always right wing but now they looke relatively sane by comparison. Note too that the WSJ more or less prints corporate press releases verbvatim, which is something they didn't used to do. When a company I worked in went bankrupt, they published a completely false article with wrong facts and trying to let criminals who fed them the story off the hook.

New York Times and the Wall Strret Journal are still my favorites.

R51: Murdoch rapes all that he touches.

When I wrote in with correccted facts, they were like who the hell are you that we should listen to you. You weren't the CEO. No, but I know whether a merger was done for stock or cash and you got that wong. I also knew who was cooking the books.

Prawda

r44 Because I couldn't be bothered to google his name to find out if it was an e or a u. And because it doesn't matter. Why are you whining?

I like the media bias chart by Ad Fontes Media.

r57 They have the Daily Mail as centre right, fuck off

R37, and just who do you think owns bluesky?

The same obscenely rich asshole who sold out Twitter to Musk, that's who.

R58: No kidding. Ladies and gentleman, the American press is conservative. Any site that lists any mainstream outlet as even remotely to the left is lying to you. The press loves Trump, both for business and tax cuts. Though they are in for a rude awakening this time on the business angle...

R59, the same asshole who skims every time you are forced to tip through Square.

Zero. Nada. Zilch. They've all lost my viewership, forever. (And I'm not going back!)

Haaretz is the main left-leaning Israeli national daily newspaper, with decent domestic and international coverage, though read by only a very small percentage of the population. It's nicknamed "Hamas Daily" by Netanyahu cabinet members.

[quote][R44] Because I couldn't be bothered to google his name to find out if it was an e or a u. And because it doesn't matter. Why are you whining?

Pot, thy name is kettle.

R61, no idea what "skip through Square" means.

Rolling Stone has been doing solid political reporting. Pro Publica is also excellent.

I think I am going to take R43's advice. Now seems like the best time to start.

However, I feel if you HAVE to see one report of news a day, subscribe to the Heather RIchardson Cox newsletter. the most concise and easy-to-read daily wrap up without the unnecessary noise stories.

I’d like to know too. Maybe AP? I don’t watch big media or read papers anymore.

WTF is a “progressive” Democrat? I’m not satisfied by the answers I found online.

Trustworthy media.com and ProPublica.

^^no space

[quote] Zero. Nada. Zilch. They've all lost my viewership, forever. (And I'm not going back!)

So what DO you do to get accurately informed?

I wouldn't say the American press is conservative as much as they are prissy, clannish, bizarrely parochial and reliant on tired best practices that make them look like they're out of touch.

Then you'd be an idiot R73. They are all run by rich plutocrats in the Trump camp.

Question for all: by news do you mean factual coverage of events or do you mean opinion pieces that you are likely to agree with?

[quote] Haaretz is the main left-leaning Israeli national daily newspaper

Nice try, Bibi.

R75, you are raising a valid question. Many papers don't distinguish new from opinion that neatly anymore. Readers don't seem to mind though. Either they don't notice or they don't care. I'm not sure how well readers/citizens are educated to read news. A lot of damage could be avoided if people knew how to separate factual news coverage from opinion.

Haaretz is generally regarded as left-liberal, R76. I don't know why stating that fact makes me "Bibi."

r75 is the shrieking pro-Israel chaos agent troll who tries to shit down any reasoned conversation about the issue. Block block block.

shut, biut shit works, too*

[quote][R75] is the shrieking pro-Israel chaos agent troll who tries to shit down any reasoned conversation about the issue. Block block block.

Are you the troll who keeps posting links to Nazi twitter accounts and making false claims to justify attacks on Jews?

I don't think 79 meant r75.

R21 site I have seen before, their evaluation are so weighted to the right. The Wall Street Journal and Forbs are in no way cent of the spectrum. Have you ever read or seen the videos Forbs post, it's like a copy of Fox News. Filled with MAGA followers. And the Journal has always been considered a conservative media source.

To be fair, WSJ's journalism isn't as conservative as their editorial and curation. They did a story on the plight of gay people in Russia about a month ago, for example.

This thread is very helpful. Thanks, OP.

Stop whingeing about compromised mastheads and just get your news from outside the US. What do you think liberal Russians do? (At this point) you guys still have access to the full range of the internet, so use it.

Overseas reporting will generally be more balanced because other countries care less about what the US has chosen to inflict on itself, and are mostly just looking at what that means for global alliances. But they'll still report on Trump's latest idiocies and atrocities, just with fewer agendas. Obviously don't go for far right-wing sites, even in other countries, but anything leftish, or even conservative in the traditional sense, will be better than the partisan reporting in the US.

Israeli government orders officials to boycott left-leaning paper Haaretz:

PBS is my go to. Calm, well-presented, presents facts, no extreme bias and reports are carefully researched and substantiated. I absolutely love PBS presenter Amna Nawaz. Whenever she speaks I feel calm settle over me.

[quote]Why do you call him "Zuck," when that's what he wants to be called by his sycophants?

Language-policing is a bear of a habit to kick r44

R38 Right just like the MAGA Right who lived for decades in an echo chamber which weakened them and made them disappear by 2024.