Obamacare on chopping block?

Probably. It really depends how dumb Congress is. Then it depends how little Trump gives a fuck about the electability of Republicans. But he hates Obama (and Michelle, after the election.). Obama mocked his manhood at the convention. He's not getting over that. Wouldn't you love to kill Obama's baby, especially when Pelosi was midwife?

It was not her fault

No matter what

He was going to win

Majority of Trump voters dont own a passport, have never been on airplane even, they “knew” he was not the competent choice, they said “shes more presidential” and trusted her more.

But that did not matter.

Their lives are so sad, boring & uneventful = voting for him was one of the most exciting moments of their pathetic little lives. They know he will make the news with crazy “entertaining” behavior and theatrics [ala Evita Peron and thus the millions of Hispanics who voted for him] and their daily lives will thus be “more interesting”. These are folks who dont care about our standing in the world, the long terms effects of the environment, too ignorant to realize their benefits will be cut; bye bye Obamacare, medicaid benefits.

These include people who believe democrats started hurricanes 🌀and directed them to Florida, Georgia & NC

Yup. It's gone.

All those dumb fucks in Kentucky who rely on it voted for Trump.

So fuck them.

Libtards like me in NY and CA who were looking out for them are not doing it anymore.

TRump even with his victory needs to tread lightly…piss too many people off and dems messaging will suddenly become clear - hopefully not before it’s too late.

The reason the republicans / trump did not cut benefits during his last time in office (besides Nancy), is because of the anomaly of Covid pandemic.

Nothing will stop them now.

And Nancy is no longer speaker. I hope she runs for Speakership again as itd be helpful and comforting.

Friends on it are already talking to their brokers

R2 is completely correct.

[quote]Libtards like me in NY and CA who were looking out for them are not doing it anymore.

NY and CA depend on it too.

R5, she’s 300 years old and doesn’t want to deal with Trump again.

I think Obamacare has become very popular among Republican voters. There are Republican Senators and members of the House who will not want to see it go. Now they can tweak it a little then change the name, but I don't see it going away. BTW: Right now is the enrollment period so sign up NOW if you need insurance.

[quote]And Nancy is no longer speaker. I hope she runs for Speakership again as itd be helpful and comforting.

And take it away from a black man? Are you insane?

r4 Trump doesn't have another election and no matter what is protected. He just made $2.4 billion on his Truth Social gamble. He can fuck over everyone and still sleep soundly because the system and secrete service will protect him.

I know everyone loses if it goes down, but Republican voters deserve to lose it. I wouldn’t cry for them.

R12, DJT / Truth scocial is down 30% today

R10 They don't like Obamacare. They like the Affordable Care Act. Haven't you seen the YouTubes? They are too fucking stupid to realize they're the same thing. They think the ACA came from Republicans.

R12, that’s assuming he plans on leaving at the end of his term…

No Obamacare, no social security, Medicare, trillions cut from the government agencies, etc. Tell me why I’m paying taxes then? Might as well just make the check out to Elon Musk at tax time.

Correct, R3. The high road leads to nowhere. And the empathy well has run dry.

As they love to say, fuck their feelings.

Trump and Trump Jr would probably enjoy castrating the Bidens of their big manly cocks.

It's gone. Many things are gone.

He wants to run the country like a "profitable" corporation (in that only the top CEOs get the benes).

He will cut anything that benefits the lower echelon.

Enjoy it all, for those of you who voted for Trump and will have their benefits cut.

I think I should start a blog about all the shit that gets cut for MAGAts which they didn't realize would happen. Perhaps I'll then have a social security fund.

OP, every fucking thing you value is on the chopping block.

R10 is correct. Dumping the Affordable Care Act would alienate a large percentage of his base. It has grown in popularity.

I am assuming these people to be logical and rational, though, so never mind.

The rethugs have always had a bug up their asses about it.

However, two factors may help save it. First, a lot of people now use it for insurance. Given the demographics, a lot of those people are likely magats. Second, a lot of insurance companies are making a lot of money from it. Some very rich people are going to be very pissed if they suddenly drop it.

What is much more likely is that they'll eliminate some of the more popular, but more expensive, aspects of it, like the requirement on pre-existing conditions.

The ACA should never have been referred to as Obamacare.

agreed, r24

He’ll ban it for blue states. He’ll keep it for red states and rename it Trumpcare.

[quote]The ACA should never have been referred to as Obamacare.

Agreed. Calling it that just paints a huge target on it for the magat lunatics, racists, and rethugs.

I'll "oh, dear" myself now for being redundant by listing magats, racists, and rethugs as if they weren't synonyms.

[quote]He’ll ban it for blue states. He’ll keep it for red states and rename it Trumpcare.

Glad I live in Kentucky.

Obama’s administration didn’t call it Obamacare.

Repugs named it that as a slur.

People, realize that had he only been voted by his die hard maga supporters (the overly vocal trash that attended his rallies), he may not have won.

MILLIONS of latinos, asians, independents, young gaming bros, etc ALSO voted for him.

When they remove the ban on lifetime caps, they will notice. When they kill the EPA everyone starts getting cancers from unchecked poisons. When they remove the coverage for children until 25, all the bros who voted for him will suddenly be without healthcare. When they remove the no denial for pre-existing conditions, well we all are fucked. You will have to stick with your healthcare, meaning you can never leave your job. That is just the beginning. All the Latinos who voted for Trump will get swept up in the massive deportation, suddenly demanding papers from anyone who even looks Mexican. Next, the changing or hiring gov employees to appointees so Trump can fire whoever is not loyal to him and replace them. Cronyism at it's finest. Donated a million? Sure I can get your daughter a scientist job at the EPA. I own it!. Removing any price lowering of prescriptions drugs means all of his will hit that lifetime cap sooner and insurance will no longer pay out. Trump does not have to worry about pissing off anyone. He can destroy democracy and walk away and people will call him the greatest president ever.

I tried to get Obama care when it first started. I worked too many hours. They wanted me to cut my hours to apply. Yes, I work 40 hours because I want too. I need 40 hours to pay my bills.

R17 the extremist ideologues are lobbying him to get rid of that shit. But those types never look outside their bubble. And they should. There are other powerful interests and lobbyists who do not want to get rid of it. They just want to increase their profits. Ideologically rigid people are often shortsighted and stupid. They can be useful up to a point. But only up to a point. Trump may embrace extremists views but he is always looking for the dime. He believes in money. Get it any way you can.

[quote][R5], she’s 300 years old and doesn’t want to deal with Trump again.

You lost me at and doesn’t want to deal with Trump again.

I don't like bacon in my clam chowder.

So much winning.

[quote] Then it depends how little Trump gives a fuck about the electability of Republicans.

He gives ZERO fucks. They can repeal Obamacare and throw those diabetic Deplorables in a mass grave. Medicare will be next. I have healthcare with my employer and I will continue to work until I die.

[quote] TRump even with his victory needs to tread lightly…

He is 300 lbs and his diaper is loaded with shit, he cannot and will not tread lightly.

This is what I wrote on my Facebook that I can't stand to visit and haven't for at least 6 weeks:

[quote] i've not come on here for at least a few weeks; maybe a month or 6 weeks, honestly. It's hard. There are only maybe 2 people I care about now to see their posts on here.

[quote] Can we live through this? I wonder. It's all very fucked up right now. I'm scared as fuck. Aren't you?

[quote] I have spent time somewhere else for a few years (online) besides Facebook that has many different views, because they don't (often) discount those of us who aren't white, straight, male, older. That's where i hang out now. People that care (for the most part) about their fellow HUMANS despite their religion or orientation.

[quote] That's where i live now. Not here on FB, because it's too painful to watch humanity spiral into oblivion with others (sometimes friends and family).

[quote] We are going full speed toward oblivion of the human race. just keep it up, you'll see. We care more about our money more than people. it's true. everyone is all about their personal survival and money. And that's because of what is at the helm of government and what is most important: ourselves. each and every one of us, instead of our society.

[quote] Don't you realize: society is more important than money?? And we have lost that now. We'll never regain that, i think, here in the US. We only care about the almighty dollar. That's fucking sad as hell. that's why i'm still crying tonight.

[quote] Nobody cares about anyone else but themselves. And that's a recipe for self-destruction. When you don't have community, humanity and care for your fellow people, you have NOTHING.

[quote] Where are we going from here???

[quote] I'm so sad. I cried last night. There is no amount of meditation, incense, self-care that can make this right.

[quote] Also, I'm sure I won't be collecting Social Security I've paid into since i was 16 fucking years old (and I'm 55 now) when I'm 65. I've worked almost full time since then. Thank you.

[quote] Our lives are about to change on a monumental level.

[quote] I hope you get it. We voted to care for ALL of you. But you voted to care for JUST YOU.

[quote] You suck.

TBH, I want to see the comments.

But I love drama.

R2 is correct

It's too popular to get rid of. I know he doesn't care but there are Rethugs who want to be re-elected so they can't eliminate it.

Did the Dems ever remind anyone that he was a lame duck and wouldn't have to answer to anyone? I missed that commercial, if so.

R39, good point. It was a selfish vote. Yes, please post replies, thx.

Key to that strategy, health policy experts said, is simple inaction. Major subsidies that lawmakers approved during President Biden’s term that have lowered the cost of plans are set to expire next year. Republicans could allow them to sunset, a move that could deprive roughly 20 million Americans of extra financial help for coverage on the Affordable Care Act’s marketplaces.

The subsidies, which are estimated to cost more than $300 billion if extended for a decade, helped Obamacare enrollment almost double during President Biden’s term, shattering records. The Congressional Budget Office estimates that 3.4 million people will lose insurance if the subsidies expire and the cost of plans rises. Lower-income Americans would still receive some federal assistance, while higher-income people would lose it altogether.

Even without Congress, Mr. Trump could recycle a playbook from his first term that dampened demand for Obamacare coverage by limiting advertising of its marketplaces, shortening the time to enroll in plans and cutting out spending on so-called navigators who help Americans choose their coverage. Enrollment plateaued during his first term.

Federal health officials are also likely to once again encourage the use of short-term health plans that skirt Affordable Care Act regulations. Some health policy experts have also warned of potential cuts and changes to Medicaid, which the Affordable Care Act dramatically expanded to cover more adults.

Many of Mr. Trump’s voters could be deeply affected by Republican proposals, including to Medicaid funding. The Biden administration published a report last week showing that nearly three million rural Americans had Obamacare plans, while more than 12 million had Medicaid coverage. Rural Americans who purchase coverage on the Affordable Care Act’s marketplaces would see costs go up by almost $90 on average every month if the enhanced subsidies expire, federal researchers wrote.

Republican-led states, Ms. Cox said, “would see some of the steepest premium increases if these subsidies expire.” Southern states, she added, have seen the most growth

R23 which would make it impossible to work—duh.

The GOP doesn’t have a filibuster proof margin so I doubt it could completely get rid of ACA.

If they get rid of it, the states that want to keep it can just create their own version. Isn't that was Massachusetts did under Romney?

Several states have added back the penalty for not being insured that Trump 45 removed.

I was really hoping to retire soon. Now it looks like I can't as I'm too young for Medicare, ACA is at risk, and I have pre-existing conditions which may rule out private insurances. So, I have to stay with my employer insurance.

I don't want to work 4 more years. I've never been more depressed.

[quote]I'm too young for Medicare,

Sure, Jan.

Yes and so what?

Let the fuckers who voted for this bullshit choke on it.

i've not come on here for at least a few weeks; maybe a month or 6 weeks, honestly. It's hard. There are only maybe 2 people I care about now to see their posts on here. Can we live through this? I wonder. It's all very fucked up right now. I'm scared as fuck. Aren't you?

I have spent time somewhere else for a few years (online) besides Facebook that has many different views, because they don't (often) discount those of us who aren't white, straight, male, older. That's where i hang out now. People that care (for the most part) about their fellow HUMANS despite their religion or orientation.

That's where i live now. Not here on FB, because it's too painful to watch humanity spiral into oblivion with others (sometimes friends and family).

We are going full speed toward oblivion of the human race. just keep it up, you'll see. We care more about our money more than people. it's true. everyone is all about their personal survival and money. And that's because of what is at the helm of government and what is most important: ourselves. each and every one of us, instead of our society.

Don't you realize: society is more important than money?? And we have lost that now. We'll never regain that, i think, here in the US. We only care about the almighty dollar. That's fucking sad as hell. that's why i'm still crying tonight.

Nobody cares about anyone else but themselves. And that's a recipe for self-destruction. When you don't have community, humanity and care for your fellow people, you have NOTHING.

Where are we going from here???

I'm so sad. I cried last night. There is no amount of meditation, incense, self-care that can make this right.

I've not come on here for at least a few weeks; maybe a month or 6 weeks, honestly. It's hard. There are only maybe 2 people I care about now to see their posts on here.

Can we live through this? I wonder. It's all very fucked up right now. I'm scared as fuck. Aren't you?

I have spent time somewhere else for a few years (online) besides Facebook that has many different views, because they don't (often) discount those of us who aren't white, straight, male, older. That's where i hang out now. People that care (for the most part) about their fellow HUMANS despite their religion or orientation.

That's where i live now. Not here on FB, because it's too painful to watch humanity spiral into oblivion with others (sometimes friends and family).

We are going full speed toward oblivion of the human race. just keep it up, you'll see. We care more about our money more than people. it's true. everyone is all about their personal survival and money. And that's because of what is at the helm of government and what is most important: ourselves. each and every one of us, instead of our society.

Don't you realize: society is more important than money?? And we have lost that now. We'll never regain that, i think, here in the US. We only care about the almighty dollar. That's fucking sad as hell. that's why i'm still crying tonight.

Nobody cares about anyone else but themselves. And that's a recipe for self-destruction. When you don't have community, humanity and care for your fellow people, you have NOTHING.

Where are we going from here???

I'm so sad. I cried last night. There is no amount of meditation, incense, self-care that can make this right.

Also, I'm sure I won't be collecting Social Security I've paid into since i was 16 fucking years old (and I'm 55 now) when I'm 65. I've worked almost full time since then. Thank you.

Our lives are about to change on a monumental level.

I hope you get it. We voted to care for ALL of you. But you voted to care for JUST YOU.

There is a chance to turn this around if you just see past your own selves. Please. Selfishness needs to stop. We need to care about our humans and about our planet.

You suck.

Oh well.

Sorry, I should have said this was a post i put on FB, not a post specific to here.^^r50

Repealing the ACA at this point with nothing solid to replace it, would be instantly hurtful to tens of millions across partisan lines. Including MAGA. This goes into the category of shit Trump says to rally his followers, but it’s shit that he’d never actually make happen. Did Mexico ever pay a dime for that non-existent wall?

Deportations, on the other hand, could happen. And massive government purges and unprecedented corruption are likely.

R45? one word: Reconcilation

R50 TL; DR. BOO HOO. Join the line—it stars back there——->

MAGAts are just fine with them repealing Obamacare. They’re all for it in fact.

Stop thinking that they are anything like you.

They sacrifice their own kids to their guns obsession and their vaccine paranoia. They’ll happily accept whatever their god Trump wants them to. That includes the repeal of Obamacare.

I could see them claiming they killed this long nightmare and then rename it Trump Care the same day.

I am more worried about the Ryan White Act being killed. All the original elder gays that survived 30 years with those drugs being paid for by that benefit will die if they suddenly have to pay 5,000 a month for meds. Since you don't die instantly, you will see the return of deaths from all the rare cancers that exploded back then like lesions on the face and body, wasting, slow death.

Trump tried more than 60 times during term one to get rid of Obamacare. It is high on teh agenda and no, they aren't planning ot replace it with anything.

"During his presidency, Mr. Trump tried but failed to repeal the Affordable Care Act, though he took steps that weakened it, for example, signing a law that eliminated the individual mandate, which required most people to maintain insurance coverage or face a tax penalty.

He also enabled the expansion of short-term plans, which didn’t meet the A.C.A.’s standards — those plans were cheaper but often provided thinner coverage that could be denied altogether because of pre-existing conditions (including pregnancy).

Americans could still see big changes if his administration does nothing to the A.C.A.: Tax subsidies that reduce the price of health care insurance for people who buy coverage through the Obamacare marketplaces could soon disappear.

The subsidies were passed as a temporary measure in 2021 and extended by the Inflation Reduction Act in 2022. They are scheduled to expire at the end of 2025, and the Trump campaign and many influential Republicans have said they don’t support extending them. That means 20 million people who benefit would probably end up paying hundreds or thousands of dollars more, and individuals earning $100,000 or more would lose access to federal assistance.

An estimated 3.4 million people will lose insurance if subsidies drop and prices rise, according to the Congressional Budget Office."

I think they will just change the name and call it Trump care . That solves the problem as far as Trump is concerned. They won't get rid of all pre existing conditions. Just some, so they can say they "fixed it."

Trump is going to have to curb his zealots. I think he doesn't want to do a lot of work. Even less than in his first term. He's a lazy fucker. So he will just take what they have a gaslight us all by saying it was him, not Biden. Steal Biden's accomplishments and take credit. It would be smart.

I do think there's something out there... maybe it's Medicare, definitely Social Security, but there is something out there that will trigger a public reaction that will force Republicans' hand.

Remember, too, Trump is already a lame duck.* The closer we get to the end of his reign, the less he matters if the public turns against him.

* assuming they don't suspend the Constitution.

Trump is NOT a lame duck until the midterms and only if the Dems take back some control of Congress. He may well have 4 full years to destroy the country before it turns it over to JD Vance or Don Jr.

[quote]When they kill the EPA everyone starts getting cancers from unchecked poisons.

The time lag is too long for most people to spot the danger.

We complain about Texas and Florida, with good reason, but if you really want to see what happens with long-term, unchecked cronyism, look at Louisiana, home of cancer alley.

Alabama is the only state which has NEVER had a liberal government since it was founded in 1819. So if you want to know what conservatism ideology leads to, look at that little slice of paradise: but remove the things built for it by a richer more liberal country like paved roads, railroads, electric grid, flush toilets, food supply....

Actually the parallel with the Jim Crow South is very exact. Back then the white working class suffered from nutritional deficiency diseases like pellagra, rickets, and the people ate dirt for self-comfort. Today, they suffer from the nutritional deficiency disease of diabetes. But it's the same thing really. Voting to keep the blacks and women down is more important than voting for help for themselves. When they all get kicked off insurance, I will laugh laugh laugh.

Can't have any "socialism" in this country. But private monopolies are to be encouraged! The post office will be destroyed.

No more Amtrak.

Close all those expensive military bases keeping the impoverished Florida panhandle afloat.

Wait until overtime gets chopped.

I have my health insurance. Since America voted to get rid of the ACA and replace it with “concepts of a plan,” go for it

R57, just like they said they hated NAFTA and renegotiated pretty much the exact same thing

Repealing Obamacare will affect poor whites the most.

Get rid of it

* you can’t suspend the 22nd Amendment. Irrespective of what you think of Trump and possible outcomes, I have no fear that he will run again. He won’t even live that long, to be honest.

R65 hasn’t a clue about political terminology, much less US history.

I have mine, so I don't care. That's the popular position, so I guess I will follow.

I plan to work until I am 65. I am going to take SS at 62 and invest that for three years. I have almost 2 million in 401k savings and have slowly been converting them to bonds to ensure safety from a volatile market. That was before this. Now, I have no idea what insurance will look like after 65.

OT won’t get chopped, r70.

Just the PAY for OT.

See how they like THAT!

Hyperinflation will wipe out your comfortable retirement in a matter of months. People don't realize how little takes to destroy them.

r79 that is why I have been converting it over to bonds.