Bernie Sanders blasts Democratic Party following Kamala Harris loss

I fucking love Bernie Sanders.

He's the ONLY politician with the guts and the courage to tell it like it is.

He should be President right now.

Well...he promised all those things to the working class and he didn't even make it past the primaries, so...

Maybe he can wait just a couple of days for Kamala's giant, gaping chest wound to be sewn back up before he starts dumping salt on it?

For fuck's sake, the woman was given 100 days to save the planet with nothing but a shattered party, a thoroughly loathed administration, and a pit full of frothing beasts to fight off 10 times a day. Do we really have to blame a decades-in-the-making problem on her?

[quote]Do we really have to blame a decades-in-the-making problem on her?

It sounds like he's blaming the DNC, not her.

I'll also add that the reason he didn't win the primary is because he too did not win over enough of the black and Latino vote. So maybe he shouldn't be throwing stones in glass houses.

Bernie Sanders is almost as bad as Trump.

He is the reason Trump got in. I hate him as much as Trump, he is an egomaniacal opportunist.

R2 didn't she have 4 years' experience in the White House as VP that should have prepared her?

Don't come for Bernie. He campaigned tirelessly for Kamala all election season.

He's 100% right. If the DNC runs another establishment candidate in 2024, we're toast. Bernie's too old now (obviously), but the DNC needs to run a populist candidate who genuinely and authentically fights for the working and middle class -- even in a way that will bristle and upset the upper echelons of the tony Democratic establishment.

R4 Liberal media hated Bernie Sanders. CNN hated him and wanted Hillary and that’s what they got.

Black independent media hated Bernie too because he didn’t support reparations, and blasted him nonstop in 2016 and 2020 to support the alternative. They were told he’d have zero chances to defeat Trump despite the polls saying otherwise. Corporate and independent media worked overtime to paint him as out of touch with black voters, which is why he never received a decent amount of black support during the primaries.

Those fringe groups online like ADOS and FBA, along with the Black talking heads in corporate media and the Congressional Black Caucus, played a duplicitous role in sinking Bernie’s appeal to black voters. And don’t get me started on the white centrist Hillbots and corporate Dem bootlickers. They were just as bad.

Now we’re about to be in worse shape than ever before. The DNC ran the party to the ground and failed their base.

He's a fucking spoiler like Nader, don't give him any air. He assumes in good faith that the lower middle class are reachable. It is to laugh. Majority are mouth breathers too easily brain washed by FOX news. Low IQ, susceptible to cults=Trump.

For the billionth time r9, Bernie was not beating Trump, no way, no how. Give it up.

Bernie had massive appeal with younger voters and Hispanics, the two groups that gave Trump his second term, R10. He also appealed to working class voters and the non-college educated.

People like you are part of the problem and never learn from the repeated mistakes by the Democrats, which is why they will continue to lose again and again to a populist such as Trump and his ilk.

Instead of alienating your base by palling around with the likes of Liz Cheney, the Bushes, the McCains, and other Neocons, thinking you’ll win this mythical “independent voter,” the Dems need to work on energizing their base and offering something other than “I’m not as crazy as the Republicans.”

I thought he died several years ago. Americans will not elect a socialist candidate. The Republicans would destroy such a person. Even mainstream independents want a strong leader. He needs to STFU.

Bernie is correct. The Clinton-eque New Dem leadership needs to go. They're as dried up and worn out as Melania.

Last I checked, Bernie Sanders wasn’t a member of the Democratic Party. Lot of chutzpah to be piling in from his safe have-it-bothways distance.

Especially now, Americans seem to be voting on vibes, rather than party affiliation. Trump won because people didn't want more of Biden-Harris policies, including a perception that the Biden administration caused inflation and was lax on the border. If Trump wrecks the economy, then Democrats could win again in 2028. But a socialist candidate focused primarily on the working class will not win - they only can complain, like Bernie does incessantly.

[quote]He assumes in good faith that the lower middle class are reachable. It is to laugh. Majority are mouth breathers too easily brain washed by FOX news. Low IQ, susceptible to cults=Trump.

Do you listen to yourself?

And you wonder why Democrats have lost the working class vote!

Look how they talk about them with such contempt.

But what is the RNC doing for the working class? They don’t even support unions or accessible health care. Or a national living wage. Reproductive rights are an economic policy.

Using this loss as a platform for your own grievance and politics seems like shady shit to me.

Sorry, but that is nonsense. Bernie has been consistent on his messaging of centering and uplifting the working class and the lower middle class for DECADES. He's been a damn stuck record before the internet age. He's been unwavering in his commitment to the working class and against special interests. And he did that not just because he's a bleeding heart and not just because it was the "right thing", but because he understood, ultimately, it was politically smart. He's been sounding this warning for years and the wealthy, out of touch Democratic establishment has (largely) ignored him. At their own peril.

80% of Hispanic Americans do not have a college education and they are disproportionately overrepresented in industries, like service, that were heavily impacted by Covid, then they saw their ability to put food on the table constantly challenged over the last four years. Trump's team recognized that, seized upon it and, according to some reporting, dedicated a ton of resources on the ground in multiple states to connect with those voters.

And more than 60% of the overall electorate does not have a college degree.

The Dems need a fundamental, and, yes, populist shift moving forward or we'll just fulfill the stereotype of becoming the party of "coastal elites."

There simply aren't enough Black women (God bless them!) to save us.

He’s doing no one any favors by making this speech

He’s doing the Democrats a huge favor. Unless you enjoy watching them lose elections.

Biden did a lot for the working class. They didn’t even notice.

The real problem is the Republican Party that totally abdicated its responsibility in a cynical power grab. It’s hard to compete with a circus.

Elon Musk warned Trump voters to brace for economic hardship and it gave them no pause. Just like they simultaneously complain about inflation but want companies to be able to do virtually anything they want to maximize profit. "The economy" doesn't mean the same thing to many of these voters as it means to Bernie Sanders, but his ego doesn't allow him to see it.

Bernie Sanders is full of shit. Biden bent over BACKWARDS for the unions and to bring manufacturing back to the US. And how did these people repay him? And seriously, Bernie Sanders for president? He's said the same thing on repeat for like twenty years. He has 0 influence in congress and he would not be able to pass anything if he was president. Plus, he's like 10000.

R21 - what specifically did he do for the working class? His infrastructure act is massive and is going to pour BILLIONS into states (including many red states) creating good paying, green jobs that don't require college educations. That is a FANTASTIC achievement, but it's one that will take years (or even decades) to pay off. It's one of the reasons other leaders haven't focused on infrastructure (they'll be long dead before they can get credit for it.)

For once Bernie got a backbone.

r25, which is stupid

The working class want white supremacy.

Bernie thinks because he wins elections in Vermont that he has the solutions to everything.

He is a ghoulish pariah who should be treated with contempt, which most do.

What exactly does the working class want that they think Republicans will give them?

There is no working class. They’re middle class and they’re idiots. They want whites catered to. That’s their big gripe. No DEI. No chinks. No blacks.

What they really want is factory jobs. Biden was the only President in decades to bring them back via IRA and Chips Act. Again, they didn’t even notice, because Fox News refuses to cover good news for Democrats .

R29, and Kamala won by a bigger percentage than he just did in Vermont. He is no expert on what the public really wants.

Can someone explain to me how the Democratic Party let down the middle class and what would make anyone with two functioning brain cells believe that a BILLIONAIRE anti-union fascist with NO plan could do any better for them?

Bernie stood up for gay rights back in the early 90s

Bernie's right.

The working class needs cheaper and more easily accessible healthcare and child care. They need cheaper housing and education.

The GOP doesn't care about any of this. The Dems only mention it sometimes. When the Dems propose and pass a healthcare law, it's so full of compromises that the working class doesn't trust them any more.

The working class is ready to vote for whomever gives them these things. Trump relied on their racism. But, soon they will sour on him like they did in 2020.

[quote] Elon Musk warned Trump voters to brace for economic hardship and it gave them no pause.

People don't believe any political pronouncements until they actually occur

Bernie connected working class Dems and Reps because they all understand and like his message.

People ran to Trump this time not because they like Trump, but because they wanted something else. Next time, they will run back to the Dems. Back and forth until they find a home.

I was a Bernie supporter and I absolutely loathe him now. I thought he didn't like Clinton because she wasn't progressive. He then attacked Warren and now Harris. The man is has a problem with women. Also "Hey Bernie, you have done NOTHING for for the working class in all your time in the senate". Barney Frank said Sanders was incapable of caucusing with Dems - never mind the GOP.

Fuck Bernie

Biden save the Teamsters pension and they couldn't wait to suck Trump's cock.

[quote]Bernie connected working class Dems and Reps because they all understand and like his message.

[quote]People ran to Trump this time not because they like Trump, but because they wanted something else. Next time, they will run back to the Dems. Back and forth until they find a home.

R38 - I think some of this is very accurate. I just saw pollster Frank Lutz (if I'm remembering his name correctly) on CNN talking about how exit polls showed voters actually liked Kamala more, personally. So, yes, that means that a healthy portion of Trump's supporters on Tuesday didn't care for him as a person, but, tragically, believed his policies and approach would be better for the working class. What a rude awakening they're in for when they discover that Republican control of the government will benefit no one but the wealthy. Chumps.

I wanna slap Bernie with a big black dildo!

[quote] What they really want is factory jobs. Biden was the only President in decades to bring them back via IRA and Chips Act. Again, they didn’t even notice, because Fox News refuses to cover good news for Democrats .

This is somewhat true. In fact, Biden has been the most pro-labor president of my generation.

The problem is that neither he nor Kamala Harris reminded people of these accomplishments. Instead, they allowed the Republicans to control the narrative and they played defense. Not once did I hear from Harris about all of the great labor protections the Biden administration put in place for the working-class. And then they handicapped their greatest weapon, Tim Walz, by pushing him to the background when he should’ve been on all of legacy media and major podcasts (he would’ve been amazing on Rogan and Theo Von) selling this agenda. Just look how Bernie Sanders was able to connect to Theo Von and his audience. Walz would’ve been just as successful as he was better at selling bread and butter issues than Harris.

Sadly, there were a lot of missed opportunities from the Harris campaign.

[quote]When the Dems propose and pass a healthcare law, it's so full of compromises that the working class doesn't trust them any more. The working class is ready to vote for whomever gives them these things.

Kamala Harris proposed to expand Medicare to include home health care, a HUGE idea if you know anyone who has aging parents and can't afford to care for them. The working class ignored her, possibly because (sorry if I'm being elitist) they were too enraptured by Fox News.

I agree with Bernie's comments on the working class voters the democratic party seems to have left behind but what I disagree with him on is the other ideas that have been embraced: defund the police, took much "woke-ism" being forced down most American's mouths (I think your average American isn't like that, and - moving too quickly on other issues that take years for people to become comfortable and familiar with. Both parties have gone too far on either side. It just happened that the Republicans ran for 9 years on the same, hateful messages, and we only had 100 and whatever days to run. I think the Harris campaign, had they more time, would have done better. Because she was campaigning for all., she did want to work across the aisle. She had Liz Chenney with her for God's sakes! We haven't seen that in years and year in politics. I think had they more time that campaign would have worked.

[quote] I agree with Bernie's comments on the working class voters the democratic party seems to have left behind but what I disagree with him on is the other ideas that have been embraced: defund the police, took much "woke-ism" being forced down most American's mouths

Neither of those things came from Bernie Sanders. In fact, one reason part of the Democratic base didn't support Sanders completely in 2016 and 2020 was that he didn't engage in identity politics. There was no woke-ism or defunding the police being pushed by Sanders.

Sanders is a class-first politician and his policies aren't socialist at all; they're standard FDR New Deal-type proposals. As Noam Chomsky and Paul Krugman mentioned, Sanders made the big mistake of labeling his ideas as "socialist" when they were far from it. Domestically, he's a Social Democrat, no different than FDR or LBJ.

R46 - you're right. In 2016 Bernie actually faced criticism for not bathing his campaign in identity politics with even some insidious Center-Dem messaging suggesting that this made him racist or sexist, when he has, consistently, championed policies that uplift and support Black, Latino, LGBTQ+ and women voters.

Well, where did "I'm with her" get us... ?

worse than Trump, if possible

Bernie’s right. It’s all connected. The farther we move away from treating people fairly in the economy, the harder it’ll be to treat people fairly anywhere, at even a basic human level. More inequality under the guise of “freedom” means more chaos and division.

Bernie is about Bernie

Kamala outran Bernie in Vermont. Seriously. Maybe she should be lecturing him, not the other way around

This fucktard has been in Congress for 75 years and has accomplished none of the things he endlessly blabbers on about.

[quote]He should be President right now.

He ran and voters soundly rejected him.

r53 = Donna Brazille stuffing Dem primary ballots

Donna Brazille did no such thing.