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In Hindsight, Did Harris Deserve Her Nomination?

She never won anything significant. She was handpicked for VP and presidential nom. I blame Biden for not dropping out so that the public could really rally behind a proper candidate and I bet it wouldn’t have been her.

by Anonymousreply 33November 6, 2024 11:35 PM

Oh fuck off.

by Anonymousreply 1November 6, 2024 9:36 PM

[quote]She was handpicked for VP and presidential nom.

A DEI pick.

by Anonymousreply 2November 6, 2024 9:38 PM

Yes.

by Anonymousreply 3November 6, 2024 9:38 PM

She did not deserve it insomuch as she had done little in her Vice Presidency to warrant recognition and had lower approval ratings than Biden. But we needed someone and she rose to the occasion as best she could.

by Anonymousreply 4November 6, 2024 9:40 PM

If she didn't who did?!

by Anonymousreply 5November 6, 2024 9:43 PM

The problem with blaming Harris is that in many ways she was set up to fail. She was always going to be a hard sell on America. She was an effective a brand spokeswoman. She was not an effective politician.

by Anonymousreply 6November 6, 2024 9:44 PM

No, she didn't "deserve" it. But she also doesn't deserve the blame for her loss. Joe Biden, his advisors, and his family deserve the blame for her loss—since their reckless decision to run him again is what cost us a primary process that could have given us a much different result last night.

by Anonymousreply 7November 6, 2024 9:46 PM

It's my opinion, but I will always say that Kamala Harris ran a flawless campaign. That was almost impossible for someone being thrown into the candidate position so late.

But I may amend "flawless campaign" to "almost flawless campaign" because she lost.

by Anonymousreply 8November 6, 2024 9:55 PM

Obviously in hindsight it would have been best for Biden to have dropped out 2 years ago and for there to have been an open primary. But Kamala ran a great campaign given the circumstances. Her biggest issues were Biden's unpopularity and his mishandling of the border--which probably would have sunk any other Dem too.

by Anonymousreply 9November 6, 2024 10:00 PM

OP is a racist troll who clearly hasn’t read a thing about Kamala’s biography. She EARNED it, moron. Now, into the grease fire with your willfully ignorant, cracker ass. Sweet Jaysus.

by Anonymousreply 10November 6, 2024 10:08 PM

She was a fine candidate.

This election was always about the fact that a Double Whopper with Cheese is three dollars more than it was five years ago.

No one could compete against that. Fuck your rights.

by Anonymousreply 11November 6, 2024 10:16 PM

Did Trump deserve his three nominations? What had he done before 2016 besides running a fraudulent company and hosting a TV show?

by Anonymousreply 12November 6, 2024 10:17 PM

Fuck your hindsight-Trump is criminal Harris is not

by Anonymousreply 13November 6, 2024 10:19 PM

Did George W. Bush deserve his nomination? Even his father thought Jeb was the better candidate.

by Anonymousreply 14November 6, 2024 10:20 PM

[quote] I blame Biden for not dropping out so that the public could really rally behind a proper candidate and I bet it wouldn’t have been her.

I blame YOU.

by Anonymousreply 15November 6, 2024 10:20 PM

Senator from California is chopped liver?

by Anonymousreply 16November 6, 2024 10:20 PM

She ran an amazing campaign — even better than Hillary.

by Anonymousreply 17November 6, 2024 10:21 PM

She did a tremendous job against tremendous odds. Congratulations to her and her team.

It's not her damn fault there are 90 million idiotic Americans who think the cost of English muffins is more important than Democracy (and fail to understand why the cost of English muffins is so high to begin with, then think the guy they just voted in gives a good God damn not only about the cost of English muffins, but also whether or not you and your family have enough to eat).

by Anonymousreply 18November 6, 2024 10:23 PM

She ran a very good 100 day campaign for the more promenent democratic office in the world. And did it well. There were structural impediments no candidate could have overcome, and blind spots she and her team missed. I work in marketing and once was discussing commercial and political differences with a consultant. He pointed out in his field a 49.5% share is failure, 47-48% share a disaster. So the result was, but she didn't make a fool of herself (hi Sarah Palin) and has a lucrative speaker circuit, corporate board, or academic career in front of her.

by Anonymousreply 19November 6, 2024 10:24 PM

Yes, she deserved it but apparently this shit country isn’t going to elect a woman no matter what. We should have kept Joe as the candidate but we let George Clooney and a bunch of Silicon Valley billionaires bully us about one bad debate for 4 weeks and now here we are.

No other candidate could have done any better either, especially with only a few months to do it. Only Joe could have beaten him. We made a terrible mistake.

by Anonymousreply 20November 6, 2024 10:26 PM

Yes. But the President, having won his party's nomination, deserved to ride it out.

I could accept a President Biden loss, I can't accept the Vice President's loss.

Also a foreign agent has already promised austerity measures for Americans in trumps 2nd term.

Buckle your seat-belts, bitches.

by Anonymousreply 21November 6, 2024 10:26 PM

Irrelevant. As a practical matter, the sitting vice president has almost always received the nomination when the president doesn't run again.

Biden did not run in 2016 which cleared the way for HRC. Cheney didn't run in 2008.

by Anonymousreply 22November 6, 2024 10:28 PM

The election was about gay marriage. Kamala may have appointed 2 or 3 liberal Justices to the SCOTUS and their dreams of abolishing it would be forever dashed. A British journalist travelled the South and said people he interviewed were obsessed with it.

Within a few months of Trump's presidency you will start seeing the bad omens.

by Anonymousreply 23November 6, 2024 10:28 PM

I thought she was tremendous. Her DNC speech was extraordinary. She was charismatic and likeable. Exit poll shows she was more likeable than Trump but y’know the price of eggs. I’m very proud of her and very sorry she had to lose to someone so crude and vulgar. She didn’t lose, we did. And the people of Ukraine and Gaza will lose the most, because “they’re eating the cats, they’re eating the dogs”

by Anonymousreply 24November 6, 2024 10:30 PM

[quote]She did not deserve it insomuch as she had done little in her Vice Presidency to warrant recognition

Blame Biden for that. Part of a president's job is to showcase their VP in the best light. Putting her in charge of the boarder was ridiculous, and I will always maintain that it was intentional because of how she criticized him over busing.

Biden should have announced he wasn't seeking a second term during the midterms and given everyone enough time to decide on a nominee. She did not run a flawless campaign, but she did extraordinarily well under circumstances no modern presidential candidate has ever had to endure.

by Anonymousreply 25November 6, 2024 10:46 PM

Even Michigan went to Trump. Michigan!!

by Anonymousreply 26November 6, 2024 10:58 PM

Progressives stfu about this since they didn't want to get blamed like last time, this was all done by the moderate establishment.

Harris did not deserve the nomination! The writing was set in the wall in 2020 when she did horribly in the primaries, she was disliked by a huge chunk of the electorate, an open convention probably would resulted in a better candidate than her and the Dems would've gotten a real good look at how she fared against the others.

When it became obvious she was the pick I straight up fell in line despite having huge reservations on her as a candidate. I am not going to fall in Line next time

by Anonymousreply 27November 6, 2024 11:19 PM

You looking at me!

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by Anonymousreply 28November 6, 2024 11:26 PM

Troll thread

Troll OP

by Anonymousreply 29November 6, 2024 11:28 PM

The media sane washed Trump and held her to an impossibly high standard.

by Anonymousreply 30November 6, 2024 11:28 PM

[quote]The media sane washed Trump and held her to an impossibly high standard.

Like expecting her to be inspiring?

by Anonymousreply 31November 6, 2024 11:29 PM

Deserve is the wrong word, and quite beside the point. We needed a nominee ASAP in a bad situation. She was ready. Biden declared he wanted it to be her.

Open Convention competition could easily have descended into factional warring. We got the fastest and most unified good nominee we could have under extreme duress. Biden is in true decline, seems 82 going on 92 and would have been an ongoing disaster had he stayed.

by Anonymousreply 32November 6, 2024 11:33 PM

When 75,000 people stand in the cold for 5 hours to hear you speak, inspiring applies. So your post is a good example of the sane washing.

Harris - great speech to 75,000 Media - but is she inspiring?

Trump - Russia is not the enemy. Nancy Pelosi is, nasty woman. Schiff has a head like a watermelon. My Generals were low IQ, idiots. Media - Trump puts focus on domestic issues in Charlotte last night.

by Anonymousreply 33November 6, 2024 11:35 PM
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