Project 2025's Top Priorities

It's not "limiting" LGBT rights. They have stated they will overturn all federal LGBT anti-discrimination laws, legal protections and remove mention of LGBT people from all federal government policy. Then when they've done that they want gay marriage gone. It incenses them that gay people can get married because we are abominations to god and decency and lessens their marriages. The GOP have the house, senate, POTUS and SCOTUS. They don't even need executive orders to do these things now.

And as quick reminder to those who have forgotten or continue to pretend that the GOP is some great supporter of the gays and that they "have absolutely no problem with gays - just the transes"- as soon as Trump took office in 2017 he removed all mention of LGBT people from federal government websites. That means gays and lesbians. He personally ordered it done.

Project 2025 - Fascism

You anti-trans people are FOOLS. They're coming for ALL OF US.

Gay marriage was passed through Congress. They can't ban that outright. It might revert to a state-by-state thing, but part of the legislation was to require that all states abide by the Full Faith and Credit clause, so a marriage performed in NY must be recognized by, say, Mississippi, with all that entails.

I'm just taking this from Google, don't shoot the messenger:

Project 2025 does not explicitly call for overturning same-sex marriage, but it does contain several concerning proposals related to LGBTQ+ rights and same-sex marriage:

1. It aims to prioritize families "comprised of a married mother, father, and their children" over other family structures.

2. Treating same-sex marriages as "second-class marriages".

3. It proposes redirecting federal funds to support a "biblically based" definition of family.

4. The plan suggests replacing policies related to LGBTQ+ equity with those that "support the formation of stable, married, nuclear families".

5. It calls for protecting adoption and foster care services that refuse to work with LGBTQ+ married couples.

6. States that children should be raised by their "biological" fathers and mothers because the "male-female dyad is essential to human nature".

While Project 2025 doesn't explicitly call for overturning same-sex marriage, these proposals could significantly undermine the rights and protections of same-sex married couples if implemented. Additionally, some experts are concerned that if Obergefell v. Hodges (the Supreme Court case that legalized same-sex marriage nationwide) were to be overturned, states with existing bans on same-sex marriage could reinstate those bans.

[quote]Gay marriage was passed through Congress. They can't ban that outright.

Yes, they'd have to control the House, Senate, Presidency and Supreme Court to accomplish that.

There's enough more progressive Republicans who voted for the respect for marriage act that will block any attempts to repeal it.

Yes, like the "progressive" Republicans who spoke against Trump in the immediate aftermath of Jan. 6 and held firm to that position.

You need to ground yourself. People like Lisa Murkowski and that annoying cow from Maine are very much pro gay rights. The GOP may be majority Magats but they're not all Magats. It's already bad enough. We don't need to ring our hands and make it worse based on bullshit. Quit playing fast and easy with the facts for drama.

Wring* (Oh, DEAR!)

Paging Peter Thiel, Ric Grenell, and all the MAGA gays....

They'd need 60 votes in the Senate, r6. And the bill that was passed was bipartisan, so good luck. And, like I said, if Obergafell was overturned, Congress passed a law to insure those rights won't go away. I don't know why they didn't do the same with abortion, but whatever. I don't give a shit about that anymore. Let them bleed out in parking lots.

[quote] There's enough more progressive Republicans who voted for the respect for marriage act that will block any attempts to repeal it.

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They will do what fearless leader says. Or else.

Steve Bannon admits Project 2025 will be the Trump agenda

I don't think a lot of people understand the concept of "dictator" and what it all entails.

For starters, it means niceties like getting Congressional approval for legislation is out the fucking window.

The dictator initiates the legislation; the legislature rubber stamps it. That's how a dictatorship works. That's the system we now find ourselves under.

Dismantling FEMA.

Haha, fuck you, Florida.

No Republican is going to say NO to anything Trump wants. He proved last night that he is the party’s biggest GOTV machine. No sane politician will take any sort of stand against him-or risk being primaried

I don't think Trump cares either way. It has been documented that ivanka does, though. She has gone to bat for us, despite her fecklessness. And no, she doesn't deserve a metal for being a decent human being for a short moment.

Millions of Americans are going to die after they repeal the ACA, raise prices of life saving medicines, and outlaw vaccines.

Millions.

I guess Gen X fraus will get their cheap eggs and Latino men can keep their women in the kitchen (where some will bleed out and die).

I need to find a way to be like a typical conservative and not care about the Americans who will die like this. Help me, DL. How do they do it?

How do they justify cheaper eggs and the subjugation of women with the death of millions of people who are walking around, working, talking, loving one another, studying, chatting with their grandson, gardening, or finally falling in love?

I think the common thread is going to church, R19.

If the ACA is repealed, I wonder if some states will retain an ACA-like program? I guess without gov't subsidies, it's not likely many states could afford it (or even if they could, they might not want to bother)

Don't forget that our national parklands and federally protected land could be sold to developers to make a quick buck for the government when it needs to raise capital. They were working on this towards the end of his last term.

They will, R22 and he will pocket the $. He will just say those lands "belong to him", just like all of America's secret documents "belong" to him.

The eggs aren't going to be cheaper because he's dismantling the departments to prevent bird flu and the deporting farm workers. It's going to really, really suck

Oh shit R7 thinks there are GOP that will stand up to trump and they will do that for the first time for gay marriage ?

And as far as Trump he is looking for 3 things in people that want to work with or for him

Absolute and total loyalty and……..OK one thing.

For those of you who screech that a codified law can't be overturned above. [bold]A codified law can be overturned by another bill proposing its nullification[/bold]. The proposed bill needs to be introduced and approved by the house majority then the senate majority and then signed into law. It's time some of you Americans learned how your political system works. Essentially, this will send gay marriage and rights to the states just like with abortion. If anything goes to SCOTUS they will support the GOP position.

R5 - great summary but read between the lines of what you've posted. What do you think all those words and policies mean working in conjunction? They mean precisely what I posted in R1.

The bottom line is that they strongly believe we got too uppity. We aren't equal to them they are incensed that we think we. They horrified that we are being treated as equal to them and they won't have it. Now it's time for our reckoning. However, one thing I don't think will happen is any serious attempts to making homosexuality illegal again. There might be dog whistles and noises made about doing so by some of the MAGA and I'm sure a lot of them would like to but that's a step too far even for them and will be totally unnecessary because they will have gutted the foundation we built over the past 60 years.

OP is jerking himself off over the drama of it all. Ignore this drama queen.

OMG R7! What planet are you living on? Honestly.

Trump and the MAGA Party demand rigid loyalty in complete lockstep with the party. They are to do as they are told. Any Republican who doesn't follow the party line is eviscerated by the party, ostracized and then cast out and replaced.

[quote]Paging Peter Thiel, Ric Grenell, and all the MAGA gays....

Those people hate all the other gays and lesbians R11. They think they are better and more entitled than us. They aren't shy about making that crystal clear either. They aren't hiding it.

We're saying the proposed Bill wouldn't pass the Senate vote,. And it would be filibustered to hell until they could work it into the budget workaround.

R29 winners get to gloat and feel more entitled. Losers get to complain.

Then it will be done by executive order R30. The Project 2025 founders and policy architects have already repeatedly discussed that they have drawn up a raft of executive orders for Trump to sign before he goes out to play golf for the day. You don't seem to be aware of what changes are on the way even though Trump and MAGA have talked about them ad nauseam. Did you think they were just joking? Do you think this is a fairy story and someone is going to swoop in and melt the wicked witch?

The Trans Community are in for a very difficult time. Trump is going to immediately executive action to band them in sports. The Supreme Court is (extremely) likely to ban minors and gender affirming care. Also the most "famous" Trans Activist did NOT endorse Kamala. As crazy as it sounds a lot of Social Media Influencers were against Kamala because of her position of TikTok being sold. That's why the TikTokers told people to vote but didn't endorse Harris. It affects their purse strings.

Project 2025 is not going after gay marriage. There is nothing to suggest they are going to go after gay marriage.

But STDs and HIV may be a different matter in this admin. And when it’s about infectious disease many supportive straights will end up being a whole lot less supportive, if camps come or criminality is an issue they will be infectious disease camps and arrests to stem infections.

There was a lot of straight anger around monkeypox. Or another gay male STD outbreak or epidemic, CDC has always gone out of their way to be protective. That’s likely about to change

I see not using a condoms as a potential crime for the high risk , high risk as defined by Trumps new CDC.

it's been my experience that dictator types don't typically 'follow the rules'. so you folks who think the guardrails will protect are sadly misguided. However, we are not at the top of their list. First, they will do the deportations of any brown skinned folks (hey, let the courts sort it out later). Second, they go after Muslims (hey, let the courts sort it out later). , Third, you will start seeing large groups homeless, vagrants, etc. tents suddenly disappear (hey, where did they go? no biggie, they were a public nuisance). and then they come for us . How does an all expense paid stay at barbed wire re-education facility in Wyoming sound?

R29, I believe the German language word for them is 'kapos'

[quote]Project 2025 is not going after gay marriage. There is nothing to suggest they are going to go after gay marriage.

Stop lying R34. They've talked about it repeatedly. What do you think return to family values above all else means? It's the first pillar of Project 2025. The FIRST pillar of their agenda. Stop pretending.

The rest of your post is insane. Anti-vaxxer/QAnon level insane. White padded room level insane. It sounds like you are deeply ashamed to be gay and projecting that onto the rest of us. Get a fucking grip and get some help.

Indeed R36. As long as they're ok and they've got everything they want then just fuck the rest of us.

R9 I forgot we now have to depend on these 2 help out against the more extreme MAGAts. I want Trump to repeal the ACA so bad so that idiots that voted for Trump or didn't vote feel the pain. Hopefully with them repealing it since there is no John McCain to stop them this time Dems can run on a free healthcare plan for 2028, but we all know that with current leadership we might have 8 years of Vance/DeathSantis :)

R37 yes family values. That is one reason gay marriage will not be attacked. They see marriage as a good thing. And just because they are pro family values that does not mean they are anti gay marriage. If they are going after gay marriage as you claim they for some reason forgot to mention one fucking word about it.

And the next epidemic, just watch how soon they start suggesting the need for law enforcement. The need to stop the infections.the need to,protect the vast majority. The need to arrest the non condom users who are high risk,

This shit was sure being discussed in 1982. And we are such a different govt and cdc starting in 2025.

This is where you need to be worried not gay marriage, Gay whores are a different matter. The times have changed. Or will be soon.

Project 2025 specifically states that marriage is a binary construct, R40: male/female. Not male/male, not female/female, not trans womyn/trans man.

You can smell your desperation to believe gay marriage is sacrosanct with Republicans it's total 100% bullshit You can twist yourself like a pretzel pretending you're not like "the rest of us," but the bottom line is to the Republicans: you're a fag, plain and simple, and your marriage is an abomination.

You'd better learn to deal with it.

R12 the winds of change can easily course correct the brief systems of politicians.

Belief systems, who’s existence can be brief I suppose

I suggest you begin stockpiling guns and ammo because that's what they have. They will come for you.

R40 - a return to "traditional family values" means STRAIGHT people R40. [bold]Heterosexuals ONLY.[/bold] It does not mean abominable gay people. In fact - a return to "traditional family values" specifically means the exclusion of gay people from marriage rights, relationship recognition under the law and from being able to raise children because we are total abominations to them. It means the exclusion of gay people being able to be treated equally because their core belief is that we are not equal. We are lesser, disgusting scum who offend every level of their being and they are absolutely incensed that we can get married, adopt children or have children, be around children and act like we are their equals. These are the facts.

On another note; I've seen a number of your posts on DL in the past 24 hours and I am very concerned about you. You seem to be very unstable and you have an rigidly determined agenda. You also seem to intensely dislike and be deeply ashamed of other gay people and believe that we are all diseased faggots. Essentially, you are deeply ashamed of yourself. You are obviously elderly and have serious lasting issues from the hatred and shame of the AIDS epidemic. I'm sorry you have these issues but I'm not going to address any further posts from you because it's clearly pointless wasting time and effort interacting with you. You are not mentally well and need some kind of help and support.

[quote]If they are going after gay marriage as you claim they for some reason forgot to mention one fucking word about it.

Also R40 I forgot to address that claim you made - they have talked about this extensively and repeatedly over many years. They have never stopped talking about it.

r3, tell that to Dave Chapel, who I suspect, if white, would be a proud Klansman.

Gay rights and gay marriage have long been on the CPAC agenda. In case you missed it Florida passed the don't say gay law. You don't think they want that nationally? Banning books, any talk of same sex at all in schools and colleges.

Good points R48. Here are some of the bills Florida passed along with the Don't Say Gay laws.

Attempts to implement laws like these are what we can expect to see nationwide now.

One of the laws (SB 1580) provides protections for medical professionals and healthcare services to refuse to medically treat homosexuals if they morally or religiously object to homosexuality. This includes firing LGBT people who work in the medical profession if they want to for no reason other than the person is LGBT.

[italic]"This bill includes any healthcare provider or facility licensed under a dozen different statutes, including doctors, nurses, pharmacies, hospitals, mental health providers, medical transport services, clinical lab personnel, nursing homes, and more. Additionally, the bill allows providers to refuse to provide any type of “healthcare service,” broadly defined as including, but not limited to, medical research, medical procedures, testing, diagnosis, referral, dispensing medications, therapy, recordkeeping, and “any other care or service.”[/italic]

The laws took effect on July 1, 2023.

Here's the SB 1580 bill:

R49, wow, that's scary