Why do women not care enough about abortion

Pigs? You're on the fainting couch at someone calling Rosie a pig? Is this your first day on Datalounge?

Women are the ones voting against it, too, but no one talks about that.

In my state, women do care about abortion rights and they voted for a measure protecting abortion rights. On the flip side, they also voted for Trump.

I just did a quick search. Didn't use pig. Used cunt. Fifty seven pages of women being called cunt on Datalounge.

It's not the only issue facing women. And it was the only thing Kamala platformed. She was a shitty candidate and I don't give a fuck what anyone here thinks of that.

I've stopped caring what women care about.

She was the shitty candidate? She wasn't perfect, for sure. But shittier than Trump? Than the crazy demented pile of lard with no competence, sanity or ideas -? Please.

R4, when did we ask women to vote for us? Fuck off, retard.

"Women are the ones voting against it, too, but no one talks about that."

Because as we've just seen with this election, nobody hates women more than other women.

Hillary, now Kamala were uppity bitches who didn't know their place in the male hierarchy.

Equal opportunity = bullshit.

I wonder how many conservative husbands sit down with their wives and make sure how they vote. Those women have been trained since infancy to think of themselves only after they’ve fed their husbands and cleaned up after him and deferred to him in every way and in so doing, pleased God. And if they can’t afford to live on their own after divorcing him and while raising kids, they’re just totally screwed.

R8 is a mendacious cunt; or should I just keep it at pig?

I don't understand why straight men would vote for Trump. Remember that like from Kanye's song 'Golddigger?" All the women needs is a court order for a DNA test and men are screwed.

"Eighteen years. She got you for eighteen year And on their 18th birthda He found it wasn't his?!"

Abortion doesn't really affect me, so I no longer care about it. If women can't be bothered to vote for it, then too bad for them.

[quote]Again, black women are the only ones who voted overwhelmingly against him.

Black women have the highest rate of abortion, so they may feel more strongly about it.

women being called cunt on Datalounge.

That's not a bad thing, it's the fucking truth,Women just put trump back in office, and they brainwash with religion, may they all get uterine cancer and die, you stupid cunt.

[quote]Should we just give up on women? I mean, if they’re not even going to help themselves, why should gay men care?

Yup.

Done and DONE!

NO ONE hates women like WOMEN!

Fact.

Rich girls simply get a discreet douche.

[quote] I wonder how many conservative husbands sit down with their wives and make sure how they vote.

They don’t. This is how brain dead Dataloungers and Democrats are. The majority of MAGAts who are married, the wife is more of a MAGAt than the husband. This isn’t 1953. Women are in charge and they hate women with a passion and white women love a daddy figure. Women are better candidates for getting involved in cults than men are. They’re more emotional than men. They’re easily manipulate and big time manipulators themselves. Black women seem to be the only ones who don’t buy into it but they have their own issues as well.

The problem is American culture or lack thereof. We’ve removed religion so people worship politics and politicians now. And it’s isn’t just America. Fascism is cropping up all over the Western world.

MAGAt women = Roseanne Barr. I know these women. They’d Megyn Kelly. They don’t have men dictating shit to them.

Yet again, Trump inspires all the assholes to come out with their real opinions. Ugly.

I've said here before that gay men used to be my very favorite people. But no more, since I've come to DL.

Looking at the NBC News article linked in the Exit Polls Autopsy thread, the group that most supports trump is white men. Why don’t they give a shit if their wives/sisters/daughters/mothers die from lack of access to abortion or medical care for micarriages? If we’re looking to point fingers at one particular group for a 2nd trump term, white males are to blame.

Meh.

I think the rich know they are going to be able to buy their way out of that problem. Rich Right wing women don't care about the poor folk who need to go to Planned Parenthood or the girls from the wrong side of the tracks who may have to use a coat hanger.

All they care about is keeping their wealth and "elite" or "blessed" lifestyles, to hell with everyone else. These ladies love Trump because a lot of them love a rich / bad boy.

They also don't care about children after they're born, to hell with them too unless we can keep a percentage dumb, stupid and doing what we expect them to - producing more of the proletariat. But we sure don't want to have to pay for them children - no entitlements! No more taxes!

[quote]Why do women not care enough about abortion

Stockholm Syndrome.

Many women have been brainwashed by religion and men.

It's really that simple.

R21 Yeah, well, you're no prize pig yourself. You got a layer of pink flab, a pug nose, a squiggly little tail--Hey, wait, maybe you are a prize pig!

R3: Direct democracy is a curse. It allowed too many women to vote YES on legal abortion then turn around and vote for the Stroke Patient and his self-loathing eyeliner fag VP because "I voted for choice, I'm a good person, yes I am, I voted for it, see??" In their little selfis, peabrains, I guarantee that is the justification. Never mind the Stroke Patient is what brought us to this moment anyway, dipshits....

They have more immediate concerns, like the cost of everything going up.

Only 13% of women care about reproductive issues. The rest are just following what men tell them to do.

Why stop at generalizing half the humans.

Why did humans vote for Trump?

Surely you know that many women care hugely about reproductive freedom, some don’t and some others are even against it.

Because when HE says jump you LUMPEN COWS say "How high ?"

These pro life ladies are all like “why don’t they just do it in the ass?”

Missouri simultaneously passed a law enshrining abortion as a right and elected Trump!

I’m a woman and I gave up on them years ago.

It would interesting to find out what percentage of white women voted for Trump this time. I bet it was more than 2020.

r35, it was 52% of white women voted for Trump.

I think he got a point or two more last time, but I believe the same as 2016.

White women love rapists. Dumb cows.

White women don't think it will happen to them. They are selfish. They assume if they need an abortion they can get one in another state or through some other means.

What percentage of white women actually voted? I know three who didnt vote at all, they think all parties are corrupted

The Dems thought that all women were going to vote pro-choice, when the fact is that many, especially in the over 50 group think abortion is murder. The Dems became disillusioned when a few red states voted to put choice in their constitution to the point that it became just about the only issue they ran on. So, don't vilify women; blame the defeat on the stupidity of the Democratic " strategists."

You fucking pigs hate women as much as the other side, based on this thread.

YES Kamala was a SHITTY candidate. She didn't platform anything but abortion. Where was her plan? Even the orange buffoon talked about the economy.

Again, WHAT WAS HER PLAN?

But of course, blame women like the actual mysoginsts you are.

Alot of women don't like abortion, they may not think it should be illegal, though many do, but they dont like the "idea" of it...which affects how little they go out and vote on that particular subject. This is especially true of more moderate leaning and/or conservative women. It's a touchy subject, an uncomfortable one. They might say in a poll they believe it should be legal but they won't go out and vote for it.

Also, regardless of the outcome most don't truly believes the government will outright ban abortion. I think the idea is that it will become harder to get in a few very red states, and that's about it. And in those very red states, progresive women are a minority, and conservative women are, well, not. So in the states where it matters most, where abortion really is in danger, people care less.

The government can ban abortions all they want. Doesn't mean abortions won't happen.

The government once banned the manufacture, distribution and sale of alcoholic beverages. It didn't stop people from drinking alcoholic beverages, not by a long shot.

A lot of states had abortion proposals on the ballot and most voted to protect abortion rights while also voting for Trump. Do keep in mind that while Roe v. Wade was overturned, handing it back to the states still gave women an opportunity to vote on that specific issue and protect abortion rights. Title IX, however, is a different story. Yes, I'm implying that the trans issue was a huge deal. Even Morning Joe acknowledged this.

To be fair, some women are just plan stupid.

[quote] And it was the only thing Kamala platformed.

Dumbass.

[quote]Abortion doesn't really affect me, so I no longer care about it. If women can't be bothered to vote for it, then too bad for them.

And that's why many women don't care, either, because abortion doesn't affect most women or is something a lot of them consider.

R47, that’s simply not true. All women of child bearing age consider it if have sex. 1 in 4 women will have an abortion in their lifetime.

I don't hate women; I just don't understand them. There are more women than men; they vote more often than men; they can control everything if they want, but because they tend to hate each other, they cannot cross the finish line. And I realize that may be a total generalization, but it sure seems that way.

Women loving other women wont help them cross the finish line. Theyd need the support of the people who have been in charge for millennia- men- for that to happen.

The men who are in charge will screw over their brothers in a nanosecond, they sure aint going to help women and it shows that being from the same sex doesn't engender loyalty.

Abortion rights have always been split down the middle between men and women. Most anti-abortion groups are predominantly run and organized by women.

Let’s be honest.

The Democratic Party and mainstream media is telling women to divide themselves. They’re telling white American women that their husbands and fathers and sons are hateful dangerous rapists and women need to unite to fight them and the patriarchy.

That’s an easier sell to black women because the “men ain’t shit” independent woman rhetoric has been apart of the community going back to the 1970s with the disenfranchisement of black families. That’s why black women are attacking black men on social media who are the only male group with Asians to consistently vote as a majority for female Presidential candidates who support LGBT and immigration.

Everything people here are saying about women is sexist bullshit. That they’re all brainwashed and easy to control and too catty to be logical is so ironic because it’s coming from supposed pro-feminist liberals

The radicalism on the left and right have destroyed both parties but the left radicalism clearly isn’t working anymore.

I am a liberal and I’ve taken this win to reflect what’s wrong with the Democratic Party because I can’t sit around blaming the “Nazis” anymore. Something is wrong with the liberal left and you can see it all here in this thread.

A lot of you are the reason why we lost.

WHITE WOMEN don't care about abortion.

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[quote][R47], that’s simply not true. All women of child bearing age consider it if have sex. 1 in 4 women will have an abortion in their lifetime.

Liberals/feminists, perhaps, but most conservative women don't even entertain the thought.

[quote] that’s simply not true. All women of child bearing age consider it if have sex. 1 in 4 women will have an abortion in their lifetime.

Maybe they don't have sex. Maybe they are infertile. Past 40, it's hard for a woman to get pregnant. Past 45, it's almost impossible. So, if you consider that most women live into their late 70's or 80's, the years they are eligible to vote are longer than their childbearing years.

Nice rebuttal, r46. Really substantive. Truth hurts, don't it?

[quote]Women just put trump back in office, and they brainwash with religion, may they all get uterine cancer and die, you stupid cunt.

You are a treasure, R15.

When you lump all women together like R15 you sound just as unhinged, bigoted and dangerous as Trump himself. I'm sure all my women friends and relatives who voted for Kamala, who fought for abortion then and now, who fought for same-sex marriage, who got ordained to marry their gay male friends in beautiful ceremonies, who volunteer at survival centers, at schools, at river cleanups, at senior centers, who nurture entire communities with their huge caring hearts, will understand when uterine cancer comes for them, that they deserved it because some uppity conservative bitches voted from the wrong candidate and tainted all of womanhood with that vote.

I mean, you sound fucking nuts, and very biblical. Eve ate the apple and now all of womanhood is cursed, is that it? The actions of a few now have cursed all women? Gross.

If 52% of women voted for Trump, that means 48% did NOT. Nearly the same total that voted FOR him, voted against him. Those 48% of women who were devastated by the 2024 election results should not be shit on with the same shit brush as the conservative white Christian women who voted for a weird patriarch for president.

[quote]I don't hate women; I just don't understand them.

R49, It's not rocket science. Women are individuals, not a monolith. And just like with men, their religion (or lack thereof), level of education (or lack thereof) and and cultural indoctrination (or lack thereof) influences their outlook on the issues, their expectations and priorities, and the way they vote. If you are trying to understand ALL WOMEN...their thoughts, their little ways.... as though they were a single cloned organism, you are of course going to be confused, and not understand. Because just like their are a ton of different kinds of men, there are different kinds of women. White and straight. Brown and straight. White and gay. Christian or Wiccan. Southern or East Coast. West coast or midwest. Asian pansexual. Trans. Mormon. It goes on and on.

But you knew all of this.

[quote] Because as we've just seen with this election, nobody hates women more than other women.

Are you stupid R9? Women voted for Trump in lower numbers than men did. Idk why you would be so dumb out loud.

But Trump doesn't hate men, he hates women. So why wouldn't men vote for Trump if he convinces them he'll make their dreams come true?

Remember, most of the women did not vote for Trump, they voted for how they felt when Trump was last in office. It isn't easy to understand, but a lot of people - even highly educated people - vote on feelings, not facts. I've heard so many people say, "I hate the guy, but I like how I felt about my finances when he was in office. That's why I voted for him."

Why do veterans not care about their whole health care system that will be dismantled? Not every woman needs an abortion.

But every vet needs health care. Project 2025 takes it away.

So blame them for their stupidity too.

[quote] Really substantive. Truth hurts, don't it?

You are so full of shit. HOUSING was a huge part of her platform and she talked about it a LOT! WTF are you talking about? She talked about how she would work to get more housing built so that prices could go down.

Dataloungers don't hate women.

Women hate women.

Proceed.

r40 Her plan and the DNC plan is online. I wish there was a law that required a full analysis of each candidates platform from purely a policy standpoint. I think some countries have a law like that.

[quote] But Trump doesn't hate men, he hates women. So why wouldn't men vote for Trump if he convinces them he'll make their dreams come true?

What are you talking about? Trump bullies everyone who doesn't submit to him. Actually, he hates them too, if you hear how he talks about his followers behind their backs. And if you think Trump is going to make anyone's dreams come true, you're crazier than him.

So white women voted for Trump in 2016, 2020 and 2024 at 51%, 53% and 52% respectively. I was hoping for a significant drop in support this year after it was proved in court that he is a rapist and he appointed 3 super right wing extremist judges to overturn Roe v. Wade, and he was convicted for 34 felonies. I expected the drop in support to be at least in the mid 40%, but white women don't learn anymore than any other demographic.

[quote]You are so full of shit. HOUSING was a huge part of her platform and she talked about it a LOT! WTF are you talking about? She talked about how she would work to get more housing built so that prices could go down.

And the voters didn't believe her since she was invisible for the three and a half years preceding her nomination. Then, all of a sudden, she comes up with these " programs" to save the middle class. Where has the administration been? Why were they not concerned with the working class before and, if they were, why were they so silent about it? To most people they were letting illegals in, promoting trans rights, DEI, and abortion. Now, the new programs looked like pandering. The people just didn't buy it.

R69 The primary goal under the first Biden administration was to get the COVID under control, find a risk averse way to transition back to normal from lock-down environment a large portion was under. Give people financial assistance to live until they can work, go to school, and manage regular living again. Also in keeping the economy from going into a deep recession as most economists predicted. In reality Biden was the most successful presidential administration in getting positive and meaningful legislation passed since LBJ in the 1960s. The less urgent policies and programs you mentioned were starting to be implemented in 2023-2024. The immigration issue was going to be substantial addressed with the bipartisan bill , but as you probably SHOULD know Trump instructed his Republicans cronies in congress to kill the bill, so it can remain an unresolved and open wedge issue for him to campaign on.

R70, this is what I have tried to explain to people. We had high inflation mainly due to the supply chain issues caused by the pandemic but also because Biden's administration made the decision to prioritize low unemployment vs low inflation (via the multiple rounds of stimulus checks). That was a mistake but these voters just punished the administration big time over that. Oh well. As deficit spending grows, good luck getting the federal government to provide generous stimulus checks to the ungrateful public the next time a major depression/recession hits. Frankly, let them suffer..

Trump's killing of the bi-partisan bill came far after the damage had already been done. Before the killing of the bill, the Biden Administration did nothing, even as Dem mayors were pleading for help. During the campaign, the Dems always brought up the bi-partisan bill, because they could not justify their inaction before the bill. I'm sure New Yorkers and citizens of northern cities designated " sanctuary cities" were thrilled with the result of the inaction. Well, the Repub governors called their bluff and, as you can see, Republican votes in those cities shot up. Biden, et al fucked this one up big time.

Prude women hate slut women and only sluts get abortions.

R72, I do agree with that analysis. They did wait too long to do anything.

HE’S NOT BLACK

Because the general feeling is that women getting abortions are sluts that open their legs to any man and deserve to be punished

All the press that married women miscarrying and bleeding out (and one too many dying) doesn’t register in their thick skulls

R76 ... and for every woman they think of that way, there was a man involved too. Why is he not punished or accountable? Double standard.

Of course R77. Look, no one here is going to pretend that straight men aren't hypocrites.