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Blame Latinos for Trump's win

Check out the stats for the Latino vote for Trump, and you'll see that they overwhelmingly voted for him to be President.

And now that they are the largest minority group in the country, that's why they put him over the top.

So you know what? FUCK THEM.

Democrats are always helping Latinos in the social services sector, for public housing, welfare, food stamps, etc.

Republicans don't give a FUCK about them.

And how do they repay Democrats?

By voting for the fucking Republicunts.

Well fuck them from now on.

That comedian was right about Puerto Ricans and all the other Hispanics in this country.

FLOATING GARBAGE.

I hope that Trump and Republicans DEPORT every single fucking one of them.

I truly don't care any more.

by Anonymousreply 267November 7, 2024 1:34 AM

As a Hispanic-American, yes. Fuck them.

Please breakdown their country of origin.

by Anonymousreply 1November 6, 2024 9:12 AM

There is no such thing as the Latino vote. There is no unity among them. There is the majority Mexican-American vote, the Puerto Rican American vote, the Cuban vote, etc.

by Anonymousreply 2November 6, 2024 9:16 AM

There might not even be unity among Latin-Americans from the same country, as there are significant differences in class and race.

by Anonymousreply 3November 6, 2024 9:19 AM

The Dems will never get it straight....we aren't black americans, we are much more varied and different in our views (and black americans moreso than you think).

by Anonymousreply 4November 6, 2024 9:23 AM

Wow. What a racist OP. Chill, dude. And before anyone comes at me, READ. OP literally says that Puerto Ricans "and all the other hispanics in this country" are "floating garbage" and should be deported.

by Anonymousreply 5November 6, 2024 9:26 AM

R5 I agree. They just destroyed the USA.

by Anonymousreply 6November 6, 2024 9:27 AM

[quote] There is no such thing as the Latino vote. There is no unity among them.

Every single Latino group - regardless of origin - voted for Trump.

Be it Cubans in Florida, Puerto Ricans in New York, or Mexicans in Texas.

A majority of every single one of those groups voted for Trump.

Not only that, but they're also overwhelmingly Republican, including the Latino asshole who beat Sherrod Brown in Ohio.

I'm telling you, they are a fucking MENACE to this country.

Latinos are NO FRIEND to Democrats.

We need to run on a deportation platform to get them the fuck out of this country.

Unfortunately, they fuck like rabbits, so they are also the fastest growing and most populous demographic in the United States.

Which means that there will be an entire generation of STUPID and UNIFORMED voters of Hispanic origin, taking over this country.

Isn't that great?

They ruined the shithole that they came from originally, and now they're out to destroy OUR country.

Dirty fuckers!!!

by Anonymousreply 7November 6, 2024 9:31 AM

They can’t be deported because they’re citizens.

by Anonymousreply 8November 6, 2024 9:34 AM

Im Cuban and I totally agree with OP.

This is what happens when you let the third world into your country. They bit the hand of the progressive and liberal whites to lick the ass of the very whites that descriminate against them.

They will be sorry. They are for a rough awakening.they truly have come to believe that this is “home”. That is how comfortable and welcomed they’ve felt thanks to the progressive democrats, all that is about to change soon, hopefully.

White democrats should stop the compassionate politics toward Latinos. White democrats are the ones to blame. Stop trying to help Latino, but Arabs and Indians to establish large communities in this country. Once they do it they feel like it is home to them. There should never be a Hialeah , a city where almost nobody is born in the country and English is spoken very little.

Stop family reunification and refuge programs. The Democratic Party will definitely change. This is a very low and base punch by the very people that democrats have always helped.

Let them know that they are in white Anglo jungle now, alone. Without the support of the white liberals.

Make it trend on X, stop the Cuban adjustment act, and pretending that you are republican voters that want that program to stop. Do it.

by Anonymousreply 9November 6, 2024 9:37 AM

citizenship offers no protection

by Anonymousreply 10November 6, 2024 9:38 AM

Spread the word.

by Anonymousreply 11November 6, 2024 9:40 AM

If you agree with OP, you're missing what he is saying both in his original post and in r7. He's saying every single one. And is now engaging in extreme racism by calling them dirty fuckers and using every stereotype known to man. DL is better than this.

by Anonymousreply 12November 6, 2024 9:41 AM

Democrats have been patronizing Latinos for years. 20% of the population but taking a back seat to the 13% black and 5% Asian. Eventually that dam burst.

by Anonymousreply 13November 6, 2024 9:42 AM

They need to leave. Ungrateful domestic abusers.

by Anonymousreply 14November 6, 2024 9:45 AM

[quote] DL is better than this.

Trump has proven that there is NO "better than this" any more.

He has called Kamala every dirty name in the book, said that his opponents should be killed, hurled the nastiest racial insults at the very people who supported him, disparaged gays, and women, and every other group you can name, and guess what?

HE STILL WON.

People in this world do not care about decency any more.

They don't care about morality.

They don't care about goodness.

This country just elected the most immoral, hateful, evil, and wretched man it could ever possibly have elected to lead this country.

And they did it BY A POPULAR MAJORITY, thanks in large part to the Hispanic population in this country.

So please don't talk to me about "better than this" ever again.

There is no better than this any more.

by Anonymousreply 15November 6, 2024 9:46 AM

Dems are too preoccupied with the latino vote (which doesn't exist) while alienating the young male vote (which does)

by Anonymousreply 16November 6, 2024 9:46 AM

Indeed. Fighting for their accommodations while they fuck us.

by Anonymousreply 17November 6, 2024 9:50 AM

30000 and more Venezuelans, Cubans, Nicaraguans and Haitians were allowed by the Biden administration to come to the United States with a temporary parole program each month. They all brought entire families from their countries. Cubans are the ones that benefited the most so far because after one year they apply to the Cuban adjustment act and they all can stay in this country. I don’t know about the others.

This is why democrats must hit them back. How? By saying ok we will join Trumps effort to control inmigration. Now we will work together to change asylum law and that will also include the Cuban adjustment act. If you do not do that Cubans will keep coming like a real invasion. Not only that, the first thing they do when they come to the US is to look for the nearest social security office.

They received money even when they have not worked and contributed to the social security at all. They laughingly say that the are coming to retire in the US. Enough is enough.

I’m Cuban but, thanks god 100% Spanish. Not even one drop of those people’s blood. My grandparents hated Cubans with all their might. These people are not good.

They basically can leave their miserable existence on that island only by appealing to the feelings and good will of liberals in different countries, only to backstab them and joining conservatives afterwards. They are doing that in Spain too.

by Anonymousreply 18November 6, 2024 10:04 AM

It’s done. Surrender. We will never win again.

by Anonymousreply 19November 6, 2024 10:06 AM

I promise to give Lupe a raise of 5 cents!

by Anonymousreply 20November 6, 2024 10:10 AM

R18 yeah sorry that horrible racist latino hating Trump didn't win

by Anonymousreply 21November 6, 2024 10:19 AM

R18 yeah sorry that horrible racist latino hating Trump didn't win

by Anonymousreply 22November 6, 2024 10:19 AM

But why?? Why? Why do they vote for him? Is it religion, the abortion thing, are they hating illegal aliens too? Are the 7.00 hour nurses aides and kitchenhelp voting for him? Why do unions vote for him? I just can not understand it. And it will make me crazy. Because I have always felt dread about the future and always noticed the unfair divide even as a kid and now it is here and I didn’t make it out in time.

by Anonymousreply 23November 6, 2024 10:29 AM

Brown folks (Latinos and Indians) vote Reubpican to give them further proximity to whiteness.

East Asians lean very slightly Democratic.

Black men don’t tend to vote.

Women vote according to their interests (white women Republican, black women Democrat).

by Anonymousreply 24November 6, 2024 10:30 AM

Well if Trump does what he says he's going to do and deport 10 million Illegals from Mexico, there are going to be a lot of American born Mexicans who voted Trump who are going to be caught with their pants down when they come from Grandma who never got her citizenship.

by Anonymousreply 25November 6, 2024 10:32 AM

Deport the Venezuelan gang members first.

by Anonymousreply 26November 6, 2024 10:35 AM

"Brown folks (Latinos and Indians) vote Reubpican to give them further proximity to whiteness

The fact that you don't realize how racist that sounds is why latinos voted for Trump. There's racist or racist + a decent economy...guess which one they picked...

by Anonymousreply 27November 6, 2024 10:36 AM

[quote] The fact that you don't realize how racist that sounds is why latinos voted for Trump

Rofl!

Did you actually write that with a straight face?

Because, yeah, Trump is not racist at all.

You dumb fucking cunt R27.

by Anonymousreply 28November 6, 2024 10:38 AM

R28 wow.....that sort of blew over your head didn't it

by Anonymousreply 29November 6, 2024 10:41 AM

I really don't think I can take 4 years of Vivek in the Trump administration. I thought that guy was gone, now he's going to be elevated into power. It's coming, just wait.

by Anonymousreply 30November 6, 2024 10:41 AM

Kornacki is going over the numbers and he just highlighted two counties in New Jersey where Donald Trump made huge gains, of over 10% since 2020.

And those two counties (Passaic and one other) are majority Hispanic.

Thanks, Latinos!

You fucking cunts.

by Anonymousreply 31November 6, 2024 10:49 AM

Macho cultures, combining bravado and posturing plus anti-abortion beliefs equal this ridiculous outcome.

by Anonymousreply 32November 6, 2024 10:55 AM

I have been saying for years New Jersey is truing very Trumpy. My partners family is from there, all white as can be. All very pro Trump from the family, to the neighbors to the friends that stop by. Out of a group of 50 people during Thanksgiving, only 2 of them were not down with the Trump train.

by Anonymousreply 33November 6, 2024 11:05 AM

Morning Joe just said "Latino men came out IN FORCE for Donald Trump."

This is the headline of the day.

Latinos won the election for him.

Period.

by Anonymousreply 34November 6, 2024 11:06 AM

Every black, Latino and Muslim man who believes that the color of their MAGA hat trumps the color of their skin is in for a rude awaking from their new GOP buddies.

by Anonymousreply 35November 6, 2024 11:11 AM

The island of garbage is coming from inside the mainland.

by Anonymousreply 36November 6, 2024 11:12 AM

[quote] DL is better than this.

Are we still going high, when they go low, r12? Because, quite honestly, going low seems pretty damn effective right now.

by Anonymousreply 37November 6, 2024 11:15 AM

R28 I’m Latino, can you give me any examples of democrats being racists?

by Anonymousreply 38November 6, 2024 11:19 AM

[bold]The stats are in, a record 45% of Hispanics voted for Trump.

by Anonymousreply 39November 6, 2024 11:23 AM

Morning Joe just posted this:

2020 Trump received 32% of the Latino vote

2024 Trump received 45% of the Latino vote.

There you have it.

by Anonymousreply 40November 6, 2024 11:23 AM

New Jersey has a large Cuban community too.

by Anonymousreply 41November 6, 2024 11:25 AM

R38 I'm latino (latina) too, is R24 not enough for you? Or this entire thread, tbqh?

by Anonymousreply 42November 6, 2024 11:28 AM

No, not at all. He is merely saying the truth. Far worse has been said about Latinos and they didn’t seem to mind at all.

by Anonymousreply 43November 6, 2024 11:32 AM

Latinos come from economically challenged countries. They lean catholic, so more conservative (though not enough to not vote a woman considering more than half if Latam countries have elected women), they have no time for wokeness and for the most part they don't feel as under fire as the other big minority, blacks . What exactly is hard to understand about it?

by Anonymousreply 44November 6, 2024 11:33 AM

The mechanics of “mass deportation now” will likely involve profiling Latinos and forcing them to prove citizenship or be deported. Good luck to the 45%.

by Anonymousreply 45November 6, 2024 11:35 AM

r44 I said that ages ago on DL as well. And it's not just wokeness, they hate abortion too.

by Anonymousreply 46November 6, 2024 11:36 AM

Well, R45, those 45% voted, so they probably don't have to worry about citizenship.They already are.

by Anonymousreply 47November 6, 2024 11:36 AM

R46 yes, abortion is a big one.

by Anonymousreply 48November 6, 2024 11:37 AM

R43 just like you don't now

by Anonymousreply 49November 6, 2024 11:38 AM

R47 You never heard of racial profiling? In Arizona a few years back they were stopping anyone who was not white just to check if they were illegal. Do those 45% who are actual citizen happy that they nave have to have papers with them everywhere they go? Because, well they LOOK illegal?

by Anonymousreply 50November 6, 2024 11:40 AM

R47, how easily can you prove your citizenship on demand? The point isn’t that they aren’t citizens, it’s that they will be suspects.

Also, ask the million and a half people deported in the 30s, many of them American citizens.

by Anonymousreply 51November 6, 2024 11:40 AM

R43 yes, I do not mind liberals calling Latinos for what they are, traitors.

by Anonymousreply 52November 6, 2024 11:42 AM

No. Everyone on here is doing exactly what ABC said Democrats will do, find someone to blame when they should be blaming themselves and looking at all the wrong choices they’ve been making. WAKE UP.

by Anonymousreply 53November 6, 2024 11:44 AM

R50 my friend, these people came from those failed countries for a reason. Let’s be real, many of them have super low IQ.

by Anonymousreply 54November 6, 2024 11:46 AM

And now America can be a failed country too, no longer that different from any one country in Central or South America. And for what? Having a cheap gardener?

by Anonymousreply 55November 6, 2024 11:49 AM

When the deportation of "illegals" begins, I will be letting ICE know about about all the suspected illegals in my neighborhood, but with a twist, I will send to to all the ones I know who are LEGAL citizen who voted for Trump. Hey if they voted for it, they should be fine with the police knocking on their door.

by Anonymousreply 56November 6, 2024 11:49 AM

R53 not only that but blaming and badmouthing the people that are apparently the reason they lost and that they were trying to get on their side. Ypu cant make it up lol

by Anonymousreply 57November 6, 2024 11:56 AM

R5 To be fair...I think OP is referring to those who voted for Trump. Right? OP?

by Anonymousreply 58November 6, 2024 11:57 AM

R53 the democrats gave us one of the best candidates and they prefer to vote for someone who spouts white supremacist propaganda against their own communities and race.

I’m a white full blood European Cuban Latino. I will have zero problem with racial profiling, not one bit of my face and skin color seem exotic at all. If these Latinos that voted for him experience a living hell from now on, guess what, i don’t care one bit. That is what they voted for.

Years of living under democrat’s values have given these people the wrong impression that they are equal to whites and they will have a very rough awakening, not now, in about two years. That is when the white supremacists will feel emboldened to harass these people and guess what? I’m all for it. El que por su gusto muere, la muerte le sabe a gloria.

by Anonymousreply 59November 6, 2024 11:58 AM

Now that he'll pardon insurrectionists, coups will become a regular thing, just like in Latin America. Fun!

by Anonymousreply 60November 6, 2024 12:04 PM

"Brown folks vote Republican to give them further proximity to whiteness”

Wait until they can watch their built-in babysitter (“nana” aka grandma) handcuffed & thrown in the back of a van for DEPORTATION.

Low IQ muthetf*ckers

by Anonymousreply 61November 6, 2024 12:04 PM

They hate trannies and feminism more than anything - a major issue for latinos this time was school choice because they can’t accept schools saying fags are people

by Anonymousreply 62November 6, 2024 12:05 PM

Start the mass deportations NOW!

by Anonymousreply 63November 6, 2024 12:09 PM

Just as the country started to shed the outsized evangelical influence, here come the Catholic Latinos with their own social conservatism. I mean, you just gotta laugh at this point.

by Anonymousreply 64November 6, 2024 12:10 PM

Fuck around and find out. I have other things to worry about than their families being separated. Let them live under the policies they vote for as that seems to be the only way for them to learn.

by Anonymousreply 65November 6, 2024 12:10 PM

Yesterday, I spent 16 hours helping hundreds of hispanics vote for Trump. My fellow poll workers, mostly Dem, were equally shocked. The polls opened at 7am and by 8am I had already helped 20 women and about 5 men, all of whom needed enough help from me for them to show me their ballot. Seriously, non English speaking people of all ages who were incapable of filling in a bubble voted for Trump AND Gillibrand. Here's my analysis:

1. ALL Spanish media is extremely right wing for decades, Univision and Telemundo are worse than FOX news. Jorge Ramos, the one real journalist. was neutered from any serious reporting since the day he confronted Trump. I contend we wouldn't be here today if the rest of the media had walked out in support of him. WHITE people didn't have his back PERIOD. Spanish talk radio is even worse, completely racist and everything else, it's a cesspool. There has never been any effort to address or even acknowledge this by the English speaking media.

2. Old Hispanics who worked hard their whole lives are sick of seeing how may young, healthy, men don't have jobs, never moved out of their house, had kids they didn't take care of and smoke weed all day, and they resent it. It seemed like every old came in with a cane or a hunched back. It's an entire generation of guys who literally broke their backs to provide for their families. On the female side, the old ladies with home attendants who looked like they could have used an attendant of their own.

3. They hate the new immigrants who came because through the magic known as The Caravan, a mysteriously funded, years long operation that blazed through Latin America telling them, just come, will give you ride, we have hambeders and french fries for you and we'll give you EBT cards and put you in a hotel. The immigrants who fought to get here, illegally or not are pissed that so many of this wave of people are seriously underskilled.

I didn't eat all day I was so sick about it. I came home after 18 hours, took a Xanax and could only sleep 3 hours. I'm done.

by Anonymousreply 66November 6, 2024 12:18 PM

Republicans always tell you how they feel, while you don’t find out how Democrats feel about you until they find out they can’t use you. Overnight, as far as democrats are concerned, Blacks and Hispanics have turned into all the things Republicans have always said outright. Both sides feel the same way only one party has no problem being honest about it. Yet you all still wonder why minorities vote for them.

by Anonymousreply 67November 6, 2024 12:19 PM

r66 What more can be said, really. As the kids say, that's it, that's the tweet.

I'll just add that the issue of young people not being able to get affordable housing and good jobs is not going away with Trump and that's a lesson everyone will learn shortly.

by Anonymousreply 68November 6, 2024 12:24 PM

[quote] Overnight, as far as democrats are concerned, Blacks and Hispanics have turned into all the things Republicans have always said outright. Both sides feel the same way only one party has no problem being honest about it. Yet you all still wonder why minorities vote for them.

The difference being that Democrats actually HELP Latinos, and create legislation that actually benefits them and improves their lives.

Whereas Republicans don't give two fucks about Latinos, treat them like absolute shit, AND want to deport them.

So surely, you can understand why it's confusing that these stupid fuckers would vote for a Republican.

The only reason I can think of is that they're just stupid fucking assholes who shouldn't be allowed to vote because they're clearly not intelligent enough to do so.

When the Founding Fathers of this country set up the Democratic process of voting, I'm sure they assumed that everyone who voted would be thoughtful and have a good conscience.

They never envisioned the likes of these people from 3rd world countries ever being allowed to cast a vote in this country.

by Anonymousreply 69November 6, 2024 12:26 PM

[quote]They never envisioned the likes of these people from 3rd world countries ever being allowed to cast a vote in this country.

Yeah, well, Babs needed a cheap pool guy.

by Anonymousreply 70November 6, 2024 12:30 PM

I’ve watched a bunch of grown men tell adults who they are to vote for, while simultaneously calling them awful names, saying they aren’t intelligent and blaming them instead of realizing MAYBE that is why they didn’t vote for your party.

Again, Democrats proving why this all backfired. Theyre just so out of touch and arrogant they can’t even see their own faults.

No one likes being berated and spoken down to, yet that’s all democrats did to Latinos and black men.

by Anonymousreply 71November 6, 2024 12:33 PM

Latinos are some of the hardest working people in this country. Fuck off with that shit.

by Anonymousreply 72November 6, 2024 12:34 PM

VERY hard working, but cheaper than regular Americans. That's the reason this whole fucking immigration thing started.

by Anonymousreply 73November 6, 2024 12:37 PM

I LOVE THE UNEDUCATED! - There that is actually what won Trump the presidency. Is that how you don't talk down to people?

by Anonymousreply 74November 6, 2024 12:37 PM

I blame the democrats for not having a succession plan in place. They suck at it, and when I said here that she's not the right choice bc Americans are never going to vote for a woman, let alone a half black, half Indian one, I was roundly dismissed as a Magat ON HERE. She was also a shitty VP and had NO ECONOMIC PLAN to address inflation and cost of living - the same thing happened with HILLARY, who focused on a glass ceiling and self congratulatory behaviour rather than laying out an ECONOMIC PLAN. People vote for those things which directly impact their pockets, not idealism or altruism (protecting democracy).

None of this is a surprise, and the cognitive dissonance displayed on this board over the past several weeks is probably a direct reflection of the CD of the democrats. He showed us who he is, HE WAS PRESIDENT BEFORE. This was the democrats election to lose.

by Anonymousreply 75November 6, 2024 12:38 PM

Jennifer Medina of the New York Times & her army of right wing Latinos delivered

by Anonymousreply 76November 6, 2024 12:40 PM

I honestly don't think Trump will deport people. He'll talk and build a few miles of fence but will maintain the status quo.

What I see happening is a big rise in racial violence. White power groups beating up minorities, more public altercations and police brutality because Trump gave the the okay.

by Anonymousreply 77November 6, 2024 12:41 PM

That's BS r75. Jesus himself could not win over MAGA. Please do tell who you would have put up there instead of Kamala would have changed the Latino vote and the white woman who want a daddy vote?

by Anonymousreply 78November 6, 2024 12:41 PM

[quote]Again, Democrats proving why this all backfired. Theyre just so out of touch and arrogant they can’t even see their own faults.

Like another poster said elsewhere, it's just that they live in America that no longer exists and they haven't yet come to terms with this fact. The US has been Peronised though Trump and there's no going back. At least for a while.

by Anonymousreply 79November 6, 2024 12:43 PM

[quote] Seriously, non English speaking people of all ages who were incapable of filling in a bubble

I watched a 20-something guy trying to water a shrub. He was hosing the top of it and just sprinkling the upper leaves. Someone came over and took his arm and lowered it to the roots.

by Anonymousreply 80November 6, 2024 12:45 PM

“No one likes being berated and spoken down to, yet that’s all democrats did to Latinos and black men.”

Get out of here with that shit. The latinos and black men I heard crowing about Trump were low iq, low information imbeciles. Completely out of reach for Democrats.

by Anonymousreply 81November 6, 2024 12:46 PM

This will take decades to recover, especially if you consider the Supreme Court.

by Anonymousreply 82November 6, 2024 12:46 PM

In re: New Jersey. Like Staten Island and Long Island, its Italian-American population is heavily Republican. I've never figured out why unless it's the resentment of the "Democrats catering to the Blacks."

by Anonymousreply 83November 6, 2024 12:47 PM

I am still in shock and not in the place where I can start pointing fingers. What I do know through having a Latino partner is that illegal immigrants are a major area of contention for many. Somehow, I think in my partner's case he believes they are taking all of the jobs - but he is gainfully employed and never has an issue picking a couple of part-time gigs too. I knew he was a closet republican but keeps a low profile with politics around me since he knows I am stanchly a Democrat. I had to stop talking about how Dump and the republicans don't give a damn about him as it got me nowhere. He just doesn't understand the politics of the world. He was in a bit of a gloating mode this morning and that has seriously pissed me off. I think I have some decisions to make there. Too bad, as we otherwise get along fine, but I think a mixed political relationship in the coming years is going to be hugely problematic.

by Anonymousreply 84November 6, 2024 12:48 PM

R12

“DL is better than this” :-)

Maybe the funniest statement of the year. DL where we call for the death of those who don’t agree with us quite regularity.

That’s not a complaint it’s an observation, Not being better is what makes DL somewhat interesting.

by Anonymousreply 85November 6, 2024 12:48 PM

More Latinos, Black Men and White Women.

by Anonymousreply 86November 6, 2024 12:52 PM

When they look back at this election the border will be seen as a major blunder for Biden, The border is seen as a real issue. And trump was correct-in milking the border issue for all it was worth.

He was correct in killing that bipartisan border bill.

The Dems should have done a little milking themselves, The border is not the only reason but it was a big one.

by Anonymousreply 87November 6, 2024 12:53 PM

[quote] There is no such thing as the Latino vote. There is no unity among them.

Sorry but Sunny Hostin and Ana Navarro have been saying THE EXACT OPPOSITE of this for as long as they have been on 'The View'. So have many other Latina / Latino political commentators for the past eight years. The complete opposite of what you're claiming.

by Anonymousreply 88November 6, 2024 12:54 PM

OP- NO-Blame the democratic party elites who chose this Cackling Hyena Empty Vessel and did not allow the delegates at the democratic convention to decide who was going to be the democratic candidate for president. Someone with something intelligent to say to counterbalance Trump's buffoonery.

by Anonymousreply 89November 6, 2024 12:55 PM

R71 you gotta be kidding right? Blaming the democrats who actually took the heat and defended Latinos against all the nasty insults republicans were saying to them.

by Anonymousreply 90November 6, 2024 12:56 PM

Blame Kamala for his win. When she was on "The View" saying she wouldn't anything Biden did, she did herself in. Always spoke "Word Salad" Had no specific plan for making the country better.

by Anonymousreply 91November 6, 2024 12:56 PM

[quote] The fact that you don't realize how racist that sounds is why latinos voted for Trump.

I'm not the person who posted that but seriously, go fuck yourself. Blame the people who choose to VOTE for this idiot. Trump told them and SHOWED them who he was multiple times. He has promised to deport them. These Latinos that voted for him think they will be an exception because they are "not like those OTHER immigrants he's talking about". Yeah, good luck with that!

by Anonymousreply 92November 6, 2024 12:56 PM

America has been fundamentally remade through immigration (as has always been the case) and now resembles very little to even Obama-era America. It's all developing too fast for Dem leadership to adapt to, apparently. I hope people stop with the Founding Fathers bullshit because this is a whole new country you're living in. Those first- and second-gen Latino immigrants care very little for what came before, they just want social conservatism and a good economy. Oh, and a clown in the White House, delivering incomprehensible oration from the balcony.

by Anonymousreply 93November 6, 2024 12:56 PM

Will they be deporting Ethiopians and Haitians too?

by Anonymousreply 94November 6, 2024 12:57 PM

Trump is a salesman with mostly hate rhetoric and divisiveness and no real policies.

Harris is a significantly better qualified and has much better policies but is not as effective in pushing that information to the public.

The fact that voters still can't properly choose a real leader over a con-man bodes poorly for America as a society.

by Anonymousreply 95November 6, 2024 12:57 PM

R84 I read a reddit thread of women over 30 talking about mixed political relationships. There was alot if pearl clutching, alot of sanctimonous "I could never!"s and alot of moral highgrounding about how the woman would leave a man IMMEDIATELY should they find out their hubbies voted for Trump. I had to laugh how this moral grandazing, this demonizing the opposition to insane levels (the right does it too, but less), this tribalism, is EXACTLY what turns so many people against you. Congratulations, and if you dump your guy for being vaguely smug, he's dodging a bullet.

by Anonymousreply 96November 6, 2024 12:58 PM

Trump was already the President. People remember doing better economically then. prices were lower. Harris never brought any new ideas or policies to the table. Plus Dems identify with many woke ideas that most people hate. add a scary unstable world and you get a Trump win.

by Anonymousreply 97November 6, 2024 1:03 PM

Democrats have spent years pandering to the Latino vote instead of the black vote. They say they’ll do whatever for the black vote and then pass executive orders and whatever you can think for Latino immigrants.

Egg on their face!

by Anonymousreply 98November 6, 2024 1:05 PM

I always hated Speedy Gonzalez.

by Anonymousreply 99November 6, 2024 1:27 PM

Even after all the racism against Latinos and Muslims, Pennsylvania and Michigan still went for Trump. I'm sure all the Palestinians in Dearborn and Puerto Ricans in Pennsylvania are eager to see how much better Trump will be to their constituency than Harris.

by Anonymousreply 100November 6, 2024 1:29 PM

Latinos voted in huge numbers for Trump. Democrats have got to stop with the "open border" nonsense. It's a huge political liability for them. Nobody wants illegal immigration, and certainly not Latinos. "Build a wall" is stupid, but do what needs to be done to secure the border. Enough already.

by Anonymousreply 101November 6, 2024 1:30 PM

I don't want to see another fucking thread about Nicholas Alexander Chavez, I'll tell you that much.

by Anonymousreply 102November 6, 2024 1:30 PM

Now why did someone have to drag Speedy Gonzalez into this?

by Anonymousreply 103November 6, 2024 1:31 PM

I'm gonna do great things for them...

by Anonymousreply 104November 6, 2024 1:33 PM

[quote]In re: New Jersey. Like Staten Island and Long Island, its Italian-American population is heavily Republican. I've never figured out why unless it's the resentment of the "Democrats catering to the Blacks."

There was a big clash decades ago when blacks moved into the neighborhoods of Italians and there were actual riots over it. They since condensed onto those neighborhoods like Staten Island.

That said, all the Trumpeters I met through my partners family are NOT Italian, NOT Hispanic. They are all white mostly German Irish Jewish decent. Not a black person or anyone of color in sight. But then the whole town was like that from what I could tell. It was Somerset County, I think it's the same place where Trump has one of other golf courses.

by Anonymousreply 105November 6, 2024 1:34 PM

Latinos fucking love stunts like Trump flipping fries at the McDonald's, or driving a garbage truck around. Those Eva Perón theatrics KILL in Latin America.

by Anonymousreply 106November 6, 2024 1:35 PM

[quote]R97 Harris never brought any new ideas or policies to the table.

Tell us you are a troll without telling us you are a troll.

by Anonymousreply 107November 6, 2024 1:37 PM

[quote]Those Eva Perón theatrics KILL in Latin America.

They work in Russia too if you take your shirt off riding a horse. - Vlad

by Anonymousreply 108November 6, 2024 1:38 PM

[quote]Harris never brought any new ideas or policies to the table.

Neither did Dump. Just more of the same bullshit from his first term. Borders....blah blah....I'm being persecuted....blah blah....poor widdle me.....blah blah....

by Anonymousreply 109November 6, 2024 1:40 PM

Please feel free to tell me all the new policy ideas Harris brought to the table. When they asked her how she’s be different from Biden she had no response. Unfortunately for her, Biden’s policies are unpopular.

by Anonymousreply 110November 6, 2024 1:44 PM

r110 Doubling the federal minimum wage, for starters. She had plenty of ideas, it's just that people couldn't look past immigration and inflation.

by Anonymousreply 111November 6, 2024 1:47 PM

The racist part is not being mad at those who voted for Trump. It's using that as an excuse to use horrible stereotypes and say things like OP did about Puerto Ricans "and all the other hispanics in this country". Which OP did in more than one post and others have alao done in this thread. Calling latinos the worst of names.

I said DL was better than tbis because I THOUGHT it was better than this. It seems some people harbor views just as bad as the extreme right, but normally hide them.

by Anonymousreply 112November 6, 2024 1:48 PM

[quote]The racist part is not being mad at those who voted for Trump.

Latinos voted for Trump, Rose.

by Anonymousreply 113November 6, 2024 1:50 PM

[quote]When they asked her how she’s be different from Biden she had no response. Unfortunately for her, Biden’s policies are unpopular.

This killed her. Biden was unpopular, and was synonymous with the high inflation and open border in most people's minds. She couldn't do anything to distance herself from him. She should have been screaming "I'm not Joe Biden" in every speech she gave. Having no response ready when asked what she would do differently was disastrous for her.

by Anonymousreply 114November 6, 2024 1:52 PM

Fucking little bitches.

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by Anonymousreply 115November 6, 2024 1:52 PM

Really, r113? They all did? Every last one did like OP wants to see deported?

"Trump won the support of 45% of Latino voters nationally compared with 53% for Harris, the NBC News Exit Poll found"

Hmm. Guess that isnt true at all!

by Anonymousreply 116November 6, 2024 1:54 PM

[quote]Really, [R113]? They all did? Every last one did like OP wants to see deported?

Most Latinos are not illegal immigrants who are subject to deportation. Many are US citizens who were born here like any other first generation Americans.

People are upset about the ones who don't follow the rules and sneak their way in, and then commit crimes and cause other problems.

by Anonymousreply 117November 6, 2024 1:58 PM

R94 I suspect the Haitians will be one of the first groups deported. Then African immigrants, then particular Latino groups. I fully expect legal immigrants (see: Haiti) will be part of this mass deportation effort too.

by Anonymousreply 118November 6, 2024 2:01 PM

People will soon find out that you can have low prices OR low immigration, but not both. And if they think corporations are going to raise wages in light of non-existent immigration or that white Americans will suddenly start driving buses, I have a bridge to sell them.

by Anonymousreply 119November 6, 2024 2:02 PM

R101 If you grew up with Latinos, you know that they separate themselves from new immigrants and call them hicks.

Growing up, the Hispanic kids who could only speak Spanish were not welcome by first generation US Hispanic kids.

Democrats have spent decades pushing this myth that everyone’s families are trying to get over and etc. It’s not true. Their nuclear families are here and they’ll go on vacation and visit their extended families in those countries. Grandmas house is in DR or PR and it’s a nice getaway.

by Anonymousreply 120November 6, 2024 2:05 PM

R112 you obviously do not read DL all that much or all that closely. DL is great because is so constantly mean and attacking. DL is famous for its attacks on trans, and calling for the mass death of those who oppose us.

by Anonymousreply 121November 6, 2024 2:06 PM

Trump no longer has to run for election, so it’s anyone’s guess what will motivate him. He can deport Latinos if he feels like it, since he doesn’t need their votes.

R119, low immigration and high prices is also likely to come with labor shortages. You’ll pay a lot, but will get poor service if you can get it.

by Anonymousreply 122November 6, 2024 2:06 PM

Did Trump deport all the latinos back in 2017-2021?

by Anonymousreply 123November 6, 2024 2:07 PM

[quote]Growing up, the Hispanic kids who could only speak Spanish were not welcome by first generation US Hispanic kids. Democrats have spent decades pushing this myth that everyone’s families are trying to get over and etc. It’s not true. Their nuclear families are here and they’ll go on vacation and visit their extended families in those countries. Grandmas house is in DR or PR and it’s a nice getaway.

So basically Latinos are the same as any other immigrant group. Democrats should learn to accept this.

by Anonymousreply 124November 6, 2024 2:08 PM

R119 That’s funny cause we have both high immigration and high prices right now.

There are low income US women being displaced in women’s shelters right now to make room for migrants.

I am a liberal and a registered Democrat and I voted for Harris but you can only rationalize logic because she got her ass kicked in electoral, popular vote, and the working class.

Something is wrong with the Democratic Party and it needs to be fixed.

by Anonymousreply 125November 6, 2024 2:09 PM

Yeah, Latinos hate each other, just as people do in the Balkans or in SE Asia. Every group thinks it's better than the other, with Cubans believing they're better than all of them combined. They hate illegal immigrants more than anyone else.

by Anonymousreply 126November 6, 2024 2:11 PM

[quote]Trump no longer has to run for election, so it’s anyone’s guess what will motivate him. He can deport Latinos if he feels like it, since he doesn’t need their votes.

I honestly think this second Dump Presidency might be pretty uneventful. He's lazy and low-energy and gets easily distracted, and he mainly ran to avoid prison. He doesn't have to run again, so his desire to accomplish anything will be minimal.

by Anonymousreply 127November 6, 2024 2:11 PM

Seems everyone forgot the Latino hierarchy and who hates who.

White, as European as possible, elite Mexicans, Brazilians, Colombians, Argentines at the top. The former Cuban and Venezuelan oligarchs exiles from years ago are almost at the same level (but older and dying out).

Then they set the lower classes against each other. The Mexicans already here resent the Central Americans and Venezuelans coming through and making up bullshit political asylum claims when they just want welfare. ("Oooh, I lived around gangs in Honduras and my husband beat me!" No shit, bitch, I live near Liberty City.)

Everyone hates the Cubans on the upper level and the Puerto Ricans on the lower level because both get a free pass to Americaland. But the Cubans and the power then they they get the money, to quote a famous Cuban in film.

And at the very bottom, the Haitians. They really are a failed state, the people are kind and work their asses off, but they are surrounded by thieves and fiends.

The stupid, stupid Democrats though it was cool taking up the cause of the Boricuans, Haitains, and Central Americans. The rest to the middle-to-elite Latinos were like Brahmins encountering Dalits. The end.

by Anonymousreply 128November 6, 2024 2:13 PM

r125 Cheap labor is the lifeblood of the economy, especially in a deregulated turbo-capitalist one like the US. And no, low-income women aren't suddenly going to start fixing your toilet or cleaning your pool or picking fruit in California just because you close the border, get real.

by Anonymousreply 129November 6, 2024 2:13 PM

[quote]citizenship offers no protection—European jews

Not even for American citizens.

by Anonymousreply 130November 6, 2024 2:18 PM

[quote]And at the very bottom, the Haitians. They really are a failed state, the people are kind and work their asses off, but they are surrounded by thieves and fiends.

Why are Hatians even considered "Latino"? They're French-speaking people of mostly African descent.

by Anonymousreply 131November 6, 2024 2:20 PM

That's not true OP. They voted for Harris.

by Anonymousreply 132November 6, 2024 2:22 PM

R129 I just told you what was happening. American women, especially Hispanic and Black, are being displaced in urban women’s shelters to make room for migrants.

There is no room for destitute Americans in major cities right now who need shelters. Migrants have been a priority. I’m not talking about women becoming makes, I’m talking about single mothers who can’t even work right now because of their struggle and can’t get rooms in women’s shelters.

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by Anonymousreply 133November 6, 2024 2:24 PM

r131 I mean, more than half of Brazil originates in Africa as well and they're still called Latinos.

by Anonymousreply 134November 6, 2024 2:24 PM

Plumpy's not the one to worry about. As stated above, he's old, half-senile, essentially uninterested in actually running the country and only ran out of spite and the fact that he hates to be a loser. The danger is the cabinet he puts together. Trump will spend most of his time playing golf while Bannon and the other trolls wreak havoc.

by Anonymousreply 135November 6, 2024 2:24 PM

I meant to said maids in R133.

The fact that Americans are being kicked out and displaced to make room for migrants is why Trump won. He will stop this and why is it a bad thing?

Again, I hate Trump but wake up.

by Anonymousreply 136November 6, 2024 2:26 PM

r136 No one said it's a bad thing, I was just saying that prices will go up. That's it. If the majority is fine with that trade-off, then I'm fine with it as well.

by Anonymousreply 137November 6, 2024 2:28 PM

I blame the whole Latinx nonsense.

by Anonymousreply 138November 6, 2024 2:28 PM

Some fat Latino sack of shit has bombed our local NextDoor page with pro Trump messages.

He has to be the dumbest person to ever live. Trump's coming for him and his family first. But these dumb, uneducated sacks of shit are as dumb as our native, trashy hick sacks of shit.

by Anonymousreply 139November 6, 2024 2:30 PM

I blame the fags

by Anonymousreply 140November 6, 2024 2:30 PM

[quote]I blame the whole Latinx nonsense.

That didn't help either. More "liberal elites telling us what words we're allowed to use."

by Anonymousreply 141November 6, 2024 2:32 PM

The Latinx shit was dropped in 2020 already, Kamala's campaign didn't use it once.

by Anonymousreply 142November 6, 2024 2:34 PM

One wonders what all the rich white wimmins are going to do about housekeepers, landscapers and nannies now. They might have to actually pay a decent wage.

by Anonymousreply 143November 6, 2024 2:36 PM

Why blame? They voted in accordance with the law. They didn't do anything wrong. Disagreeable - sure. It may be more helpful to research what they see in Trump that our candidate was missing. And then maybe we can cater better to what they feel they need.

by Anonymousreply 144November 6, 2024 2:37 PM

Preach r140!

by Anonymousreply 145November 6, 2024 2:38 PM

[quote]It may be more helpful to research what they see in Trump that our candidate was missing. And then maybe we can cater better to what they feel they need.

In other words, a race to the bottom.

by Anonymousreply 146November 6, 2024 2:39 PM

In life you have tops and bottoms you have doms and subs you also have Dems and gop.

The Dems are seen as the woker, softer weaker , bottom. The gop not so much.

Fair or not

by Anonymousreply 147November 6, 2024 2:40 PM

[quote](the right does it too, but less)

The Hell they DO. Look at all of the shit that was talked buy Republican's during the campaign.

by Anonymousreply 148November 6, 2024 2:44 PM

DL, please do not lose your decency or humanity by allowing yourselves to get swept away in hatred like R7 has done.

R7 is either experiencing a mental health crisis, or is a troll.

It’s better to finally understand that Latinos do not identify as Latinos. They identify as Americans, because this is exactly what they are, and they ALSO identify as conservatives because MANY are Evangelical Christians, who are more concerned about their own comforts than they are about social issues.

It’s time to stop viewing Latinos as the ‘other’. They’re the fastest growing population in this country and will absolutely call the shots from now on, just like the once majority whites did before.

White supremacists called it: The Jews will not replace us, while leaving out the part that Latinos WILL. Specifically Mexican Americans. There’s no irony here. It just is what it is and demographics were projected over 30 years ago.

If democrats want to win an election ever again, they’d better do better for those who are now our new majority.

by Anonymousreply 149November 6, 2024 2:47 PM

What about the Michigan Muslims? Are they safe?

by Anonymousreply 150November 6, 2024 3:04 PM

[quote] It’s time to stop viewing Latinos as the ‘other’. They’re the fastest growing population in this country and will absolutely call the shots from now on, just like the once majority whites did before.

Then we're fucked.

They are hardcore conservatives and worship dictators like the ones they escaped from in their own countries. They will poison America - indeed, they already have.

by Anonymousreply 151November 6, 2024 3:06 PM

r151 Yep, no values beyond religion and strongman rule. It's not a hyperbole to say that we woke up into a different country today.

by Anonymousreply 152November 6, 2024 3:09 PM

If loving Puerto Rican cock is wrong, I don't want to be right.

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by Anonymousreply 153November 6, 2024 3:09 PM

Can we finally get rid of the " woke" assholes?

by Anonymousreply 154November 6, 2024 3:10 PM

As a white man, I’m trying to see what’s in it for me, but I can’t think of anything.

by Anonymousreply 155November 6, 2024 3:13 PM

In some very important aspects that are specifically highlighting the LGBTQ community, you’re correct, R153.

There aren’t too many obviously closeted Latinos out there. They will push it away, down, into a place where no one else suspects a thing, marry women, have kids, & MAYBE hook up with men when the wife and kids go visit Abuelito & Abuelita, just like closeted white men have done for decades.

by Anonymousreply 156November 6, 2024 3:16 PM

R150 in the day or two before JD Vance became a laughing stock for fucking a couch he was seen as trumps attempted to creat a many decades long maga dynasty. And Vance picked to carry on.

That idea likely is back on the table. You may or may not punish your enemy but you try and take care of your supporters.

Some people will do really well under trump. And that will start with those who voted for him.

And watch Vance now become softer gentler less caustic. He is going to start going after the middle or the moderates..

by Anonymousreply 157November 6, 2024 3:16 PM

My post at R156 was meant for R151.

Apologies.

by Anonymousreply 158November 6, 2024 3:18 PM

Only the wealthy will do well under him.

by Anonymousreply 159November 6, 2024 3:20 PM

Jesus fucking God on a cracker!

I’m fucking DONE with being a decent human. DONE.

Fuck every last one of these dumb fuckers who voted for him.

Bow down before the one you serve, you’re going to get what you deserve.

by Anonymousreply 160November 6, 2024 3:21 PM
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by Anonymousreply 161November 6, 2024 3:22 PM

R149 Democrats have been pandering to Latinos for decades now. Obama was the Latino President, not the Black President. Trayvon Martin and the Charleston shooting and the rise of BLM happened during the Obama administration. People were angered Obama refused to go head on addressing the issues of racism in the US.

It wasn’t just Latinos, the exit polls showed “Other” were a large part of voters as well.

We know as soon as immigrants are empowered by the Democrats, they vote Republican.

And this is what we saw this election.

by Anonymousreply 162November 6, 2024 3:28 PM

Did Julian Castro have the nerve to deflect blame from Hispanic voters for Kamala's defeat to Joe Biden for 'not stepping down sooner' ? I could've sworn I just heard him say this on MSNBC. I could swear he just said that if Biden stepped away much earlier, it would have given Harris more of an opportunity to connect with voters. Is he serious ? This is Biden's fault and not the thousands of Hispanics who voted Trump back into office ?

by Anonymousreply 163November 6, 2024 3:32 PM

As soon as she picked Walz it was over.

by Anonymousreply 164November 6, 2024 3:33 PM

[quote] If democrats want to win an election ever again, they’d better do better for those who are now our new majority.

Why? Clearly you can be a complete selfish asshole and never do shit for anybody else and be wildly popular and get elected president. In fact, actually helping people just gets you hated and voted out.

If anything, democrats should promise to be complete fuckwads and then watch the votes come pouring in.

by Anonymousreply 165November 6, 2024 3:34 PM

[quote]Did Julian Castro have the nerve to deflect blame from Hispanic voters for Kamala's defeat to Joe Biden for 'not stepping down sooner' ? I could've sworn I just heard him say this on MSNBC.

Yes. he said that. He said that Biden put Harris in a terrible position, and Latinos shouldn't be blamed for that.

by Anonymousreply 166November 6, 2024 3:36 PM

How do you not see that men fear and loathe women and that nothing else was more important to his supporters than KEEPING WOMEN “IN THEIR PLACE?”

All this “how can this BE?” is ridiculous.

Trump v Clinton Trump v Biden Trump v Harris

by Anonymousreply 167November 6, 2024 3:37 PM

I just wish women would stop being so eager to help out that whole process r167.

by Anonymousreply 168November 6, 2024 3:39 PM

Democrats have a huge Latino problem, and they better get this shit figured out. They can never win an election again when Republicans are getting 45% of the Latino vote, and especially the men. Maybe stop with the "black women are the backbone of our party" rhetoric. Actually stop with all the identity politics nonsense. Just tell us how you're going help people have more money in their pockets.

by Anonymousreply 169November 6, 2024 3:40 PM

[quote] Brown folks (Latinos and Indians) vote Republican to give them further proximity to whiteness.

[quote] The fact that you don't realize how racist that sounds is why latinos voted for Trump

I know it how it sounds and it’s true. Brown folks are the most snobbish and colourist out there.

Do you think the average Latino citizen feels much in common with Venezuelan gang members and Mexican peasants entering America undocumented? Their concerns are the same as everyone elses: the cost of living, gas prices and spiralling healthcare costs.

Do you think the average Indian small business owner or IT guy or finance bro has sympathy for how black folks live with institutional racism? Indians come from a very class oriented and culture and despise Africans.

by Anonymousreply 170November 6, 2024 3:59 PM

I just read an interview with sone of the illegal immigrants that Biden has given residency to in NYC. Many said that they would have voted for Trump.

Crazy- democrats need to get tough on immigration. We are seeing the same thing in canada with conservative Syrian immigrants supporting the Tories even though the liberals saved their asses. Religious nuttery over everything.

by Anonymousreply 171November 6, 2024 4:05 PM

R162, the numbers will bear out that the overwhelming majority of Latino votes for Trump came from Hispanics who were born & raised in the United States, going back several generations, all the way to present time.

by Anonymousreply 172November 6, 2024 4:07 PM

Trump is the US’s Bolsonaro/Orban. He should have never have been allowed to run after the insurrection but that is on the democrats

by Anonymousreply 173November 6, 2024 4:09 PM

No, that's on the Republican Supreme Court r173, who decided their party leader should be allowed to run no matter what the 14th Amendment said.

by Anonymousreply 174November 6, 2024 4:15 PM

Can we make sure that when the authoritarian fascists start rounding people up to send them to concentration camps, they bang on the doors of everyone complaining about "woke" first? Please and thank you.

by Anonymousreply 175November 6, 2024 4:23 PM

They're useful idiots for the Republican party.

by Anonymousreply 176November 6, 2024 4:25 PM

Where will the camps be?

by Anonymousreply 177November 6, 2024 4:29 PM

My Republican sister-in-law just called to “check in” which means coyly gloat.

At the end of the call it came out that the 100% Latino construction crew that’s doing a total renovation of their house didn’t show up for work today. She called the contractor and he said that it was a subcontractor and he couldn’t get in contact with them. The suggestion was that they are illegal aliens and were afraid to leave home for fear of being picked up and deported.

I’d hate it if her house wasn’t finished by Christmas and they had to spend the holiday in their rental apartment…

by Anonymousreply 178November 6, 2024 4:37 PM

Latino men voted about 47 for trump. White women about 44

by Anonymousreply 179November 6, 2024 4:38 PM

You would have called her and gloated too. You were probably gloating before the polls even closed.

by Anonymousreply 180November 6, 2024 4:40 PM

R179 That's UNEDUCATED White women, according to Sunny Hostin.

by Anonymousreply 181November 6, 2024 4:40 PM

Hope they all get deported.

Except for the really huge hung ones. And most of them are short, fat and stubby dicked.

by Anonymousreply 182November 6, 2024 4:40 PM

Despite what you hear about blacks voting for Kamala, they did not, they just didn't vote, they voted for Obama but not this time. The numbers you hear are the blacks who VOTED, the rest just didn't vote. They tell you to your face.

by Anonymousreply 183November 6, 2024 4:41 PM

R167 Polls show black women voted less this year than 2020 and black men stayed the same. Black men overwhelmingly have voted for the women party and the LGBT party and yet they are seen as the most homophobic and sexist group out of everyone.

Just FYI on that.

by Anonymousreply 184November 6, 2024 4:42 PM

R172 i would not be so sure.

Biden’s first mistake was to allow get rid of Trump’s remain in Mexico policy. Then the border was open, thouthands of Cubans enter illegally through the border via Nicaragua, then Venezuelans in large numbers.

Then, he created the CBP one and the parole program. These people were entitled to $900 per person monthly, Medicare and dental, everything covered. His mistake was to believe that Latinos were grateful people. They aren’t.

by Anonymousreply 185November 6, 2024 4:45 PM

[quote]And most of them are short, fat and stubby dicked.

Those are the ones who show up at my house each week to cut the grass and rake the leaves.

Just once - about twenty years ago - a tall, handsome, muscular Latino showed up on the truck with the owner. He knew how to flirt with me, as I just kept staring at him. One hot day he asked me if I minded if he took off his shirt while working - I encouraged him to do so, and was pleasantly surprised to see light hair on his chest and a treasure trail. I snuck him a $20 bill for doing that when I handed him a bottle of water, and he laughed and thanked me with a wink (the guy who owned the company didn't want anyone to tip the workers for some reason). That guy lasted about four or five weeks - then he moved to Florida. I couldn't wait for the truck to show up every Monday morning.

by Anonymousreply 186November 6, 2024 4:53 PM

R170 and his will Trump fix these problems?

If they vote for racists then they do not mind being discriminated so white liberals should not care if they are marginalized or not

by Anonymousreply 187November 6, 2024 4:53 PM

R180, you don’t know me and don’t know what I would have done. I don’t gloat when I win because I am not a small-minded person who needs to make other people feel even worse when they lose.

However, when the decisions that people make which I think are wrong end up blowing up in their faces, I will not fail to point out the connection between their folly and the mess they have to deal with.

by Anonymousreply 188November 6, 2024 5:08 PM

OP is a lying dumbass.

First of all, he forgets that these latinos, for the most part aren’t 100% latinos, but they are the children/grandchildren/great-grandchildren of Latino people, as in, they are American born citizens like JLo ( I feel bad citing her as an example because she has always been a liberal democrat and she has just endorsed Kamala )

SO most latino IMMIGRANTS whether legal or illegal had nothing to do with this outcome because the majority cannot vote.

And yes, it’s true that Dump gained a lot of ground on the “latino field” and it’s true that sadly he’s a lot more popular with latinos now than he was in 2020, BUT

It’s also true that more than 60% of latinas voted for Harris and it’s also true that 53% of American latino men voted for Kamala Harris too.

While I do find it baffling and shocking that 45% of latino males voted for Trump, I also recognize that if this election had depended solely on Latino voters, yes, even latino males only, Kamala Harris would be the first elected female president of the USA right now, and not that clown.

MEANWHILE there are people on twitter saying that 69% of all white women voted for Trump, meaning, they are the ones who ho REALLY made that choice for the rest of Americans, but of course OP wouldn’t criticize his mother and aunts, and prefer to lash out on different minorities instead.

by Anonymousreply 189November 6, 2024 5:15 PM

r7 Yes. Call me a bigot, but I don't want immigration from latin america. Many of them are very racist and many vote republican even though republicans are anti immigrations. They also refuse to speak and learn English and are the only language group to be accommodated to the extremes even if they lived years and decades in the US.

by Anonymousreply 190November 6, 2024 5:17 PM

Also, this thread is FILLED with ignorant bullshit that are indiscernible from the crap that a REPUBLIKKKAN would write.

by Anonymousreply 191November 6, 2024 5:18 PM

[quote]They also refuse to speak and learn English and are the only language group to be accommodated to the extremes even if they lived years and decades in the US.

Meanwhile, Melania Trump can barely speak English.

by Anonymousreply 192November 6, 2024 5:19 PM

^^^^^^

I meant -R189, duh

by Anonymousreply 193November 6, 2024 5:19 PM

r169 When a group supports you at over 90% you have a right to point it out.

by Anonymousreply 194November 6, 2024 5:23 PM

What ads were they running to attract Latinos?

That they're being blamed and if they stop the border things will be better for them?

Latino Men, not Latino women, were the biggest change.

I can't understand anything any more.

by Anonymousreply 195November 6, 2024 5:32 PM

Well, we know Puerto Ricans don't mind Trump's make-up fetish. After all, they used to be glued to the screen when their astrologer was on!

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by Anonymousreply 196November 6, 2024 6:13 PM

R164 you are so right. Walz blew the debate with Vance, and Kamala's momentum was lost. Easy to nitpick now, she should have picked Shapiro and PA might have gone to her.

by Anonymousreply 197November 6, 2024 7:17 PM

61% of Latina women voted for Kamala Harris.

by Anonymousreply 198November 6, 2024 7:28 PM

The average American seems to have the same attitude towards Trump and Vance that many New Yorkers did to Giuliani when he was mayor--we may hate him as a person but he does a great job! Yeah, good luck with that.

by Anonymousreply 199November 6, 2024 7:28 PM

This was a referendum on the economy, and the incumbent party lost. She lost every battleground state. Picking Shapiro wouldn't have changed anything.

by Anonymousreply 200November 6, 2024 7:38 PM

I'm not turning on my cleaning lady, Carmen.

She's like family.

by Anonymousreply 201November 6, 2024 7:39 PM

R200 - an economy where price gouging pissed everyone off for years. They knew what they were doing.

by Anonymousreply 202November 6, 2024 7:39 PM

Middle class Latinos who are established in the US look at migrants the way middle class whites look at trailer park white trash. They don't consider them their brethren.

by Anonymousreply 203November 6, 2024 7:46 PM

And the H/W campaign KISSED SUS CULOS in the Lehigh Valley of PA! Multiple visits, plus Latino celebs!

Also in Philly, with Ricky Martin!

Now I'm glad Trump threw them paper towels and a recent rally guest called PR "garbage."

Because any Latino who voted for Trump IS garbage!

Besa my big Democratic culo next time, muchachos!

by Anonymousreply 204November 6, 2024 7:52 PM

Funny how all the DL trump threads don’t seem so funny today,

DL yesterday was like that Chicago Bears defender who spent his time cackling, waving at , and making fun of the opposition fans at the same time the pass was thrown.

Premature victory dances can make the dancer look like a fool

by Anonymousreply 205November 6, 2024 7:55 PM

I think MOST (not all) people on DL were cautiously optimistic. 2016 scared a lot of us. And now, we have triple the reason to be scared moving forward. The future of the democratic party is becoming a more conservative party. That is the big lesson the national Dems will take from this debacle. Left wingers have always disparaged Democrats as being capitalist, anti-poor, etc. Well, they will get that and more. And we won't have a female president unless she comes from the Republican party first. Fucking Nimmy Rita.

by Anonymousreply 206November 6, 2024 7:59 PM

Nimtwata is never going to be President.

by Anonymousreply 207November 6, 2024 8:01 PM

[quote]In re: New Jersey. Like Staten Island and Long Island, its Italian-American population is heavily Republican. I've never figured out why unless it's the resentment of the "Democrats catering to the Blacks."

Italians are racist AF.

by Anonymousreply 208November 6, 2024 8:01 PM

Democrats haven't done anything for Blacks and Browns except create empty promises.

by Anonymousreply 209November 6, 2024 8:08 PM

R209 like the parole program for Latinos fleeing dictatorships ?

by Anonymousreply 210November 6, 2024 8:11 PM

R209 - and the Republicans have done what exactly for them?

by Anonymousreply 211November 6, 2024 8:12 PM

I beg to differ, r209.

by Anonymousreply 212November 6, 2024 8:20 PM

Fuck them! Fuck my fellow citizens and their voting preference! Fuuuuck theeeeeem!

by Anonymousreply 213November 6, 2024 8:27 PM

R213 now you know what it is like to be the sad kid in the corner at the high school dance that no one pays attention to.

Being a loser sucks. Enjoy the next 8 years.

by Anonymousreply 214November 6, 2024 8:32 PM

[quote] Too bad, as we otherwise get along fine, but I think a mixed political relationship in the coming years is going to be hugely problematic.

R84, maybe he'll be deported. One less problem.

by Anonymousreply 215November 6, 2024 8:45 PM

Yes. Unlike the white men who all voted for Kamala

by Anonymousreply 216November 6, 2024 8:51 PM

Too many Latinos think that they are the "new Italians", i.e. "whitish". change your name or marry someone with a non-spanish nae, and perhaps you can pass. that leaves all of their brown and blackish cousins in the dust.

by Anonymousreply 217November 6, 2024 8:52 PM

non immigranti hispanics have always voted republican. they are Americans first and Hispanics second. they never changed

by Anonymousreply 218November 6, 2024 8:53 PM

R214, By law, no President can serve more than 10 years. Trump has 6 left.

by Anonymousreply 219November 6, 2024 9:36 PM

[quote]Too many Latinos think that they are the "new Italians", i.e. "whitish".

Can you be anymore idiotic? Italians are "whitish"?? What does that mean?

AND BTW: many Hispanics are white too.

by Anonymousreply 220November 6, 2024 9:42 PM

R218 they want to feel “gringo”. It gives them a sense of superiority over the rest of inmigrants

by Anonymousreply 221November 6, 2024 9:56 PM

r192 How much accommodation do Slovakians get or demand??

by Anonymousreply 222November 6, 2024 10:00 PM

r220 Many latinos are white, but the vast majority of latin american immigrants are "mestizos/part indian and part white" from mexico or central america. They aren't white or look white. I guess that is changing with more immigrants from venezeula, etc. The white latinos are typically from cuba and puerto rico.

by Anonymousreply 223November 6, 2024 10:02 PM

"By law, no President can serve more than 10 years. Trump has 6 left."

I don't think R219 understands how a dictatorship functions.

The dictator decides how much time he has left. And when he decides to go, he decides who his successor will be. Then the legislature rubber stamps that decision.

See how that works?

by Anonymousreply 224November 6, 2024 10:14 PM

R219, the Constitution is trash now. Wipe your feet on it, it’s done.

As soon as they think they have the votes, they will hold a constitutional convention and get rid of the 19th amendment, and any amendment that says what the restrictions are on serving in the house or debate or as President.

That’s been that fucking federalist Society plan all along. And dumb pricks just voted to cede every right they currently enjoy.

by Anonymousreply 225November 6, 2024 10:16 PM

*Senate

by Anonymousreply 226November 6, 2024 10:17 PM

Stop trying to find a group to blame. This is Putin and Trump's fault only.

by Anonymousreply 227November 6, 2024 10:17 PM

Are you happy now about the fucking blown up children Uvalde? Their parents deserve all the pain, they are the main Latinos who vote Republican, and they are EVANGELICALS.

by Anonymousreply 228November 6, 2024 10:39 PM

R15-you are the man-great points sad but true…

by Anonymousreply 229November 6, 2024 10:39 PM

Latin men are insecure and narcissistic as fuck. I was raised by them. I’ve seen it for decades.

He says all the things they’re thinking.

And this election was always about why a bag of Ruffles costs five bucks now. Fuck your rights.

by Anonymousreply 230November 6, 2024 10:44 PM

Latinos believed all the disinformation provided by Trump world so they vote Trump. Whites hate blacks and browns so they vote Trump.

by Anonymousreply 231November 6, 2024 10:45 PM

OP I am from El Salvador and let me tell you this, Religion is one hell of a drug. Latinos are some of the worst educated people out there because they value Religion over almost anything else, there is no logic in their thinking just faith based guidance. There is also a big divide among Evangelicals and Conservative Catholics and more Liberal ones. The Evangelical ones are hardcore zealots, a big chunk of these voters saw that abortion was made illegal and they did everything in their power to keep it that way, the number of vans I see with the stupidest church names just means that a lot of them are being radicalized by their Church pastors, they need to be taxed..

My mother has been in the USA for 35 Years barely speaks English and is just a resident, if she were to get her citizenship and vote she would vote for Dems since their Immigration policies have allowed her to stay and live in the country, however if she didn't have that Im sure she would vote conservative.....she has a hard time accepting me and I kind of have a love/hate relationship with her.

Now imagine other Latinos...My neighbor and his wife are Mexicans.... but they refuse to admit that they're Mexican because they were born here... lol.... they are hardcore Trump supporters, he is a retired cop and she is a retired nurse who have 3 grown adults my age or older who are hardcore Trumpers too, their daughter even married a white Cop...one of their sons is also apparently really homophobic. Lastly one of the most vocal Trumpers I picked up in my Uber/Lyft days was a loudmouth Trump loving Argentinian asshole...the things he was saying about other Latinos and Latin America was sad, you would think you were speaking to a white guy.

by Anonymousreply 232November 6, 2024 10:49 PM

Watch grocery cost continue to rise under Trump

by Anonymousreply 233November 6, 2024 10:49 PM

r232 If they are born in the USA then they aren't mexican. Not everyone engages in identity politics.

by Anonymousreply 234November 6, 2024 10:51 PM

Sick to death of white males like myself blaming other people for rightwing political choices when the truth of the matter is, the lions share of votes to Trump was us — white males.

Oh but “blame Latino males.” Sure buddy.

by Anonymousreply 235November 6, 2024 10:55 PM

R224, Since I responded to a post that mentioned a specific 8 years, not "FOREVER," I figured the poster didn't know the "Presidential term limits" part of the Constitution.

I'm 75. I think I can define "dictatorship" as well as you. With examples.

by Anonymousreply 236November 6, 2024 10:55 PM

Latinos, Blacks

by Anonymousreply 237November 6, 2024 10:55 PM

R234 Isn't gender identification identity politics too? Why is it ok to firmly state there are only two genders but not call someone who had Mexican Parents a Mexican? What will the proper nomenclature be? How would you describe said person?

by Anonymousreply 238November 6, 2024 10:58 PM

We should be mostly blaming the 15 million people that didn't vote this cycle...we need to see what the breakdown of that was...

by Anonymousreply 239November 6, 2024 11:01 PM

[quote] My neighbor and his wife are Mexicans.... but they refuse to admit that they're Mexican because they were born here... lol....

That is so pathetically sad. You should make fun of them every chance you get.

by Anonymousreply 240November 6, 2024 11:08 PM

R235, white males are at least voting for another white male. What's a Hispanic male's excuse?

by Anonymousreply 241November 6, 2024 11:17 PM

R241 You under estimate the misogyny and machismo of straight religious latinos...

by Anonymousreply 242November 6, 2024 11:22 PM

Thank you, R235.

by Anonymousreply 243November 6, 2024 11:33 PM

No, I don't underestimate it. I just don't make excuses for it, like r235, and others do. If anything, foreign and minority males suffer more in an autocratic regime, because they are considered invaders and useless.

by Anonymousreply 244November 6, 2024 11:34 PM

The Cubans are now asking Trump for legal status. They have a l-220A which doesn’t give them any status. They are begging to be granted parole to stay in the US. They are claiming that they are afraid that they can deported and that they are fleeing persecution, which is a lie. One year after they get their parole approved they travel to Cuba again.

Republican politicians are now trying to get them the parole they want.

These Cubans entered through the border during the Biden administration illegally. They were granted parole but some where not and were given l-220a status instead.

by Anonymousreply 245November 6, 2024 11:38 PM

R242, EXACTLY what a Latino community leader in Allentown, PA, just said to MSNBC [Note: The Lehigh Valley is an easy 90 minutes due West of NYC. That is why Lehigh University in Bethlehem was also shown last night.]. Latino men simply would not vote for a woman.

by Anonymousreply 246November 6, 2024 11:42 PM

Rev. Al Sharpton was on Morning Joe, and he came right out and said it.

Black men and Hispanic men can be VERY misogynistic.

They saw a woman - a woman who is both black and Indian - and said NOPE.

That's what it came down to, for many of them. And Rev. Al called them out on it.

by Anonymousreply 247November 6, 2024 11:51 PM

[Quote] [R235], white males are at least voting for another white male. What's a Hispanic male's excuse?

That’s the most fucking idiotic thing I’ve ever heard.

by Anonymousreply 248November 6, 2024 11:53 PM

They're stupid, ignorant, low IQ, devoutly religious, extremely socially conservative and have a very low opinion of women. Gays? It goes without saying. A lot of machismo and "traditional values" bullshit. They're the same as white evangelical rednecks except they're brown and speak Spanish instead of English. Otherwise they're cut from the same cloth.

by Anonymousreply 249November 6, 2024 11:56 PM

Just by sheer numbers, fewer people voted in 2024, less for Trump than in 2020 and much less for Harris than for Biden, Almost 30 million less. Blame them.

by Anonymousreply 250November 6, 2024 11:56 PM

[quote] Brown folks are the most snobbish and colourist out there.

[quote] Do you think the average Latino citizen feels much in common with Venezuelan gang members and Mexican peasants entering America undocumented? Their concerns are the same as everyone elses: the cost of living, gas prices and spiralling healthcare costs.

[quote] Do you think the average Indian small business owner or IT guy or finance bro has sympathy for how black folks live with institutional racism? Indians come from a very class oriented and culture and despise Africans.

Funny you mention this.

I was watching a YouTube video yesterday (just by accident because I thought the guys were cute), about three 18 year olds taking a trip to Europe.

They live in North Carolina, and it was just them getting excited to take a trip to Europe over this past Summer.

What shocked the fuck out of me is when they were recording the cab driver who took them to the airport.

They were just talking about nothing important, when the HISPANIC cab driver came out and said that he doesn't like black people because they're lazy.

I was shocked, and it seems the boys were shocked too, because of course that's not very p.c. in today's world.

They giggled a bit, but probably because what else are they supposed to do when you hear a Hispanic cab driver say racist things about black people.

My point being, this is probably another reason why Latinos didn't vote for Kamala. They're just fucking racist.

It was awkward.

Watch for yourself.

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by Anonymousreply 251November 6, 2024 11:57 PM

[Quote] No, I don't underestimate it. I just don't make excuses for it, like [R235], and others do.

R244: fuck those Latinos! 46% of them voted for Trump!

Me: um, you are white, like me. 57% of us voted for Trump.

R244: STOP MAKING EXCUSES FOR THEM!!!

by Anonymousreply 252November 7, 2024 12:01 AM

I wouldn’t be at all surprised if OP and the other anti-Latino posters in this thread are Defacto using this as a wedge issue.

by Anonymousreply 253November 7, 2024 12:02 AM

R248 most Latinos are oblivious to the concept and experience of white supremacy’s racism. The concept of race is almost nonexistent specially to those of Central America. One of the reasons for this is that in reality most Americans are not racists or they have not come across any case of racism toward them.

by Anonymousreply 254November 7, 2024 12:03 AM

Latinos also hate the escalating violence in American cities caused by blacks. The street violence, the smash and grab shoplifting, etc. They don't think enough has been done about it.

by Anonymousreply 255November 7, 2024 12:10 AM

I beez blatino!!!! 🌯 🫏 🌮

by Anonymousreply 256November 7, 2024 12:12 AM

My once largely Italian-American town is now easily 25% Hispanic.

These people WORK. So many have successful businesses. Roofing, landscaping, construction, asphalt, farm workers, eatery owners etc. They're peaceful, family oriented, they're Catholic Church goers. They're not much different from the Italian immigrants who precedeed them.

I never get the impression that they feel any difference between themselves and white people.

One thing for sure: they don't have the loser victim complex the Left expects them to have

by Anonymousreply 257November 7, 2024 12:13 AM

[quote] Latinos also hate the escalating violence in American cities caused by blacks. The street violence, the smash and grab shoplifting, etc. They don't think enough has been done about it.

Maybe they should focus on the gangs of Latinos beating up cops in Times Square in the middle of New York City.

Or the gang members in Denver killing people in apartment buildings.

Physician, HEAL THYSELF!

by Anonymousreply 258November 7, 2024 12:13 AM

Democrats need to blame themselves for this loss. They paid no attention to the two issues driving people to vote for a change...the high price of groceries, the high cost of living (the economy) and immigration control.

Biden was never a popular president (to me he did all the right things),. The people around him knew that he had cognitively failed. The failure was shockingly on display when he debated. And then he took too long to set down.

There was no primary whatsoever. Kamala Harris was anointed the candidate. As a VP she had early mistakes on immigration and border security.

Harris never laid out her plans for the economy. She never distanced herself from Biden's policies or defined her own. She was inextricably linked to him. And at a time of inflation, the public blames the incumbent.

It was not just one group who gave the White House once again to that convicted felon. His popularity increased across many groups with the notable exception of Black women.

Finally, Sanders is right. It should come as no surprise that the working class abandoned the Democrats. The Democrats abandoned the working class.

by Anonymousreply 259November 7, 2024 12:14 AM

A bag of Doritos costs $5. It was $3 five years ago.

That was the election.

by Anonymousreply 260November 7, 2024 12:16 AM

R264 racism for latinos is not the same as racist for blacks. It has nothing to do with the toxic co dependency white and black americans have had in the past, not the pent up seething resentment of 300 plus years.

by Anonymousreply 261November 7, 2024 12:31 AM

True r261. Latinos couldn't give two fucks about slavery, the legacy of slavery, Jim Crow etc. It's not relevant to them.

by Anonymousreply 262November 7, 2024 12:34 AM

R159 the problem is that the right media have brainwashed them to believe that that is communism and Marxism.

by Anonymousreply 263November 7, 2024 12:41 AM

Care to continue, r259, and present the argument how Republicans have NOT "abandoned the working class"?

We'll all wait.

by Anonymousreply 264November 7, 2024 12:50 AM

Just listen to this Trump supporting asshole in LA.

Always ethnic, always male.

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by Anonymousreply 265November 7, 2024 12:54 AM

Latinos are sick of illegal immigration.

by Anonymousreply 266November 7, 2024 1:11 AM

R266 = Irony

by Anonymousreply 267November 7, 2024 1:34 AM
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