Pennsylvania fucked us again

No, OP, much as this pains me to say it - the majority of American voters fucked you by falling for Trump’s bullshit. It’s not all on Pennsylvania.

Georgia at least came through four years ago. The others….eh.

Pennsylvania is a beautiful state.

There are larger issues at play.

They should know better. Too many farmers.

I hope Pennsylvania gets swallowed up by the New Madrid Fault.

And they can take the rest of the Midwest and South with them.

They can all burn in hell.

Will never patronize the dump.

I want to move.

[quote]I really hate that fucking state.

Totally agreed!

I've been trying to tell you guys about the depths of Trumpism in this shithole state.

Amish (or quasi-Amish) are some of the most hardcore MAGAs you'll ever meet, but I hoped the cities would carry the day

Sorry, and it’s true, OP. And we tried in philly, we really tried. I’m sincerely sorry.

I live in Philly but feel like moving to Jersey. He gained five points in the city. Ughh.

R12, hi from Jersey. The result here is even more drastic a shift than Philly.

Biden won NJ by 16 points in 2020. Last night, Harris won NJ by only 5 points. So, Trump did 11 points better this time in NJ. This is shocking. And yes - this time it's a NATIONAL problem. It is not accurate or honest to slice and dice and vilify one state only, just because of how the EC works.

I mean...we really can't blame it on the EC because she lost the popular vote. Hell, even Clinton won that.

Nahh, this is some nefarious, history repeating itself, world-ending bullshit. We can probably throw some racism and misogyny in the mix as well.

Ohio can also eat a shit 💩 sandwich. Voted for Trump and Bernie Moreno too.

[quote]And yes - this time it's a NATIONAL problem. It is not accurate or honest to slice and dice and vilify one state only, just because of how the EC works.

You're right of course and bless you for being the cool head and voice of reason, but it somehow makes me feel better to bash those in-bred Amish, sausage eating, beer swilling PA dolts for dragging down the country.

People are swayed by the social media propaganda they are exposed to everyday. I was hoping Pennsylvania was better than that, but they are not.

A candidate with 34 criminal felony convictions won.

There is some guy who is getting the credit for registering a huge number of Amish for Trump.

The internet was a mistake

I also think the Dems fucked us.

I remember when that proposition in California passed...proposition 30? Or 80? That everyone thought would not pass? And then it did and it turned out people were lying in the polls. That must have happened here too. The polls made it look closer than it is, so people were clearly lying.

Ohio just doesn't have enough people in the cities to win. Cleveland, AKron, Cincy, Toledo are just empty shells nowadays, so rural voters have the edge. Pennsylvania is different in that both daBurgh and Philadelphia are successful enough to offset the rural areas. But racism comes first to the Pennsylvanian.

they will soon die, alas. small towns in PA have been bleeding people over the past fifty years. and it is picking up as the remaining residents die off

r19 Why's everyone looking at me?

I feel so isolated. Neighbors, acquaintances and friends I never would have guessed would vote for Trump voted for him. I'll never view these people the same way again.

My home state, but I'll never forgive them this betrayal.

I may have to step foot on the grounds of PA one more time (when my father is buried) but after that, I will never return.

I guess the dems should have nominated such a shit burger for a candidate.

Pennsylvania....present at the birth of the nation, and one reason for its dissolution.

Pennsylvania voters react to another Donald Trump presidency

PA Latino voters react to Donald Trump winning the presidential election

Voters in battleground Pennsylvania react to Trump’s win

I'm boycotting everything Trump adjacent. If that means, skipping the Amish in Reading terminal for fucking Wegmans in Jersey, so be it.

^I was thinking this too; I've always taken a more sympathetic view of the Amish, but not anymore!

I'll never blow any horsehung young uncut Amish guys ever again!

The reporter at R30 is gay.

His name is Miguel Martinez-Valle, and he's cute!

Miguel at R35 is engaged to JD Vance?

[quote]I feel so isolated. Neighbors, acquaintances and friends I never would have guessed would vote for Trump voted for him. I'll never view these people the same way again.

Did you tell them how you voted? It would be interesting to know how they view you.

15 million Democrats didn’t vote in this election.

I'm sure the the majority of Puerto Ricans and other Latinos voted for Trump anyway.

Fuck the Amish for their puppy mills. That have no heat, electricity or vet care. Doodle breeding trash

[quote] But Pennsylvania is the cradle of American Democracy.

That’s Philadelphia, dear.

Actually, OP as in 2016 the deciding state was actually Wisconsin

[quote] But Pennsylvania is the cradle of American Democracy.

[quote] That’s Philadelphia, dear.

And Philadelphia is IN Pennsylvania.

DEAR.

Miss R41 clearly did not take a geography class

Pennsylvania = Philadelphia in the east; Pittsburgh in the west.

And...Alabama in the middle.

Unfortunately, so much of the rest of the country has become Alabama too. (And I don't mean economically; I mean attitude and culturally.)

When some people say "We're better than this," I say, "not we're not."

It turns out Bryan Kohberger is the archetypal Pennsylvanian man.

Stop blaming others. Look inside to see what we could have done differently and should do in the future.

OP, Ok look I don;'t like what happened with the election. I'm very afraid and have been upset for days. But you're seriously going to their level brotha... I guess that's just what's going to happen from now on. Awful post.

How much did she win Minnesota by?

R30 Not avilable in my country.

Pennsylfuckingvania can get swallowed up by a giant sinkhole, for all we care.

[quote]I'll never blow any horsehung young uncut Amish guys ever again!

I take it you never have, because the Amish are circumcised.

Baby Jesus was circumcised in the Bible.

It is baptism that they wait for kids to grow up to do on their own, also like Jesus in the Bible.

This happens after Rumspringa (ages 16-21) when young Amish get to explore "the real world" before they decide to commit.

[quote] And Philadelphia is IN Pennsylvania.

Pennsylvania is not the birth place of democracy, you moron. It’s specifically Philadelphia. Furthermore, Philadelphia does not resemble the rest of Pennsylvania.

Sometimes you get the Liberty Bell; sometimes you get the crack.

I am Pennsylvania born and bred and love my state.

But today I am thoroughly ashamed of our votes, local to state to federal. No Harris/Walz, no Casey, no Wild. Truly mystifying.

The groups that betrayed their own futures as well as those of the rest of us, were the most catered to, politely put: Latino men; and young voters. Hence, Walz and celebrities to Latino areas last week; Kamala to a college on Monday.

I have always before refuted and railed against the appellation "Pennsyltucky,"

But within me the bitter seeds of that reality are now fully planted.

Notwithstanding my post at r54, r16 is a moron.

Why not at a minimum spread the blame around? It's not like our Electoral votes alone kept Kamala from winning.

The Amish, quite the heterogeneous community, hate change and reject modernization. The Democrats personify both, culturally.

Where are you from, r46? I'm sure your state (or foreign country) has no murderers, so I'm curious.

R43, That's like saying New York State is the birthplace of Broadway.

Actually not ttrue. It's the republicans who force radical change.

WE already know the answer to that R47. Not accept the result and fight, fight, fight.

We could invade the capital and stop the certification of the election on Jan. 6 but do it properly this time.

No evidenceo f fraud? There wan't any last time but Trump apparently won big points for cojones by trying to overthrow the government.

[quote] Nahh, this is some nefarious, history repeating itself, world-ending bullshit. We can probably throw some racism and misogyny in the mix as well.

Maybe the Bible is right and Trump is the anti-Christ. The anti-Christ will deceive "people of faith."

Well he's done a hell of a job of it (pun intended).

Beware of false prophets.

It’s the voters who fucked us again.

It's too bad that more of Pennsylvania's maggots can't end up like James and Lisa Goy.

I don't think PA "fucked us," but I will readily admit that I do NOT get how the state's 300,000 Puerto Ricans voted for Dump after his "comedian" LITERALLY called it a garbage dump.

Also, many of the new Trump supporters are Hispanics, both in PA & elsewhere. Nearly half of all Hispanics in Texas voted for Trump. TEXAS! (In classic GOP fashion, they "got theirs," namely citizenship, and don't want to share. Sounds awfully familiar.)

R67 I wonder how many of the Hispanics who voted for Trump will be proud of their vote when Trump gets their family, friends and even themselves deported. It's not a matter of if now, but when.

The thing to remember about Texas is that a small portion of Texans vote than in any other state. This is an old thing going to back to the day when feudal political bosses along the Rio Grande had absolute control over who votes and who doesn't. If you look at the vote totals for Florida and Texas you will see that Florida always casts many more votes than Texas even thought Texas has 8 million more residents. Part of that is because Floridians are older, but mostly it's because in Texas, right-wing politicians have paid people to threaten people into not voting along the Mexican border, and they have been able to get away with this for generations even after such practices ended in most of the South due to civil rights enforcement. We are still not seeing the real voice of the people in Texas becasue in a way their political system still operates in the nineteen forties.

Like most of the US today Pennsylvanians get most of their calories from corn or animals fattened on corn. In olden time wheat was the most important part of the diet. So it is not surprising that Pennsylvanians have taken on the cruelty and taste for oligarchy, slavery and human sacrifice that characterized the Aztecs, the Southern US, and other societies founded on corn.

[quote] Like most of the US today Pennsylvanians get most of their calories from corn or animals fattened on corn. In olden time wheat was the most important part of the diet. So it is not surprising that Pennsylvanians have taken on the cruelty and taste for oligarchy, slavery and human sacrifice that characterized the Aztecs, the Southern US, and other societies founded on corn.

Yes, the connection between the two is clear as crystal, as is the MRI of where your brain should be.

[quote] The thing to remember about Texas is that a small portion of Texans vote than in any other state.

Also remember that only citizens can vote.

[quote]The thing to remember about Texas is that a small portion of Texans vote than in any other state. This is an old thing going to back to the day when feudal political bosses along the Rio Grande had absolute control over who votes and who doesn't ... Part of that is because Floridians are older, but mostly it's because in Texas, right-wing politicians have paid people to threaten people into not voting along the Mexican border.

"Feudal political bosses"?? WTF?!? It's not ye olde England, cupcake.

Texas admittedly has far too low voter turnout, but this isn't the explanation for it, and I say that as a native who still lives there. Nobody has been "paying people not to vote" along the border. That's both absurd and readily refuted by the per-county results for most elections. Are you even familiar with Texas? Its only two cities of size near the border, El Paso & Laredo, have barely a million residents combined in a state with 30 million. The border itself has never been a deciding factor, nor was Texas even particularly "right-wing" prior to modern times. The vast majority of counties along the border are huge in land mass but have some of the smallest per-capita populations in the mainland US.

[quote]We are still not seeing the real voice of the people in Texas becasue in a way their political system still operates in the nineteen forties.

It's extremely disturbing that you're doing the EXACT same shit as Trump: spreading bullshit conspiracy theories. In both cases they have at least the veneer of accuracy, but that's what makes them even more pernicious. There are plenty of reasons we're not hearing the real voice of Texas, but again, you're barking up a VERY wrong tree. Texas has by far the largest percentage of undocumented immigrants, and they obviously can't vote. It's had a Republican supermajority for 30 years, and at least until Trump came along, you might be surprised how many Democrats didn't even bother voting since the outcomes were a foregone conclusion.

Further, you've clearly forgotten (if you ever knew in the first place) that it's been less than 20 years since Hispanics were a prime *Republican* demographic in Texas. Bush 43 spoke fluent Spanish FFS! He also explicitly tried to *appeal* to South Texans, not alienate them, and while Trump has clearly conned them yet again, that shit won't work forever. Partisan gerrymandering has been a mainstay of Texas politics for eons, and that deters people from voting as well. The last election in 2022 was the first time since 2000 that I was even ABLE to vote for my candidate of choice in the general: Greg Casar, a far-leftie progressive.

And "the same political system" since the '40s? Seriously? It had 1/5th of its current population, and nearly its entire industry was centered on oil & cattle. Nowadays it's one of the most prominent technology centers on the PLANET. This is absurd as well as insulting.

[quote]So it is not surprising that Pennsylvanians have taken on the cruelty and taste for oligarchy, slavery and human sacrifice that characterized the Aztecs, the Southern US, and other societies founded on corn.

Lemme guess: this is your delusional handiwork as well?

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Perhaps the fracking water from all the wells will kill thousands in PA, trashy hillbillies too in the west, they nedd to die.

I don't understand how anyone, let alone Puerto Ricans could vote for him after Maria.

Yep, what will the Amish and Pensyltucky trailer trash think when Trump lets the fracking industry run wild there? Enjoy your fetal abnormalities and well water that catches on fire, assholes!