Josh Shapiro 2028

There's not going to be a fair, or even real, election in 2028.

Correct. We’re now in a banana republic.

That's my governor!!! I think Josh would make a great president

Yes, putting up a Jew after a black Asian woman is a great idea.

Governor Andy Beshear of Kentucky is another contender for 2028. He's shown he can win in Red America twice.

I like Beshear, too.

It may be a very, very long time before the US will be worth anything ever again. It's collapse is final.

Correct, R7. Rome fell tonight.

It will take more than four years to destroy America. We weathered the first Trump storm, we’ll get through this one too.

America is a failed experiment.

No R7. When rape and insurrection is normalized, we’re done.

It will be too late OP. You're operating with a mindset as if everything is cool and totally normal.

The entire structure of the US federal government is about to change at great speed.

r9, that is very optimistic at this point. If you didn't read about Project 2025, brush up. There will be absolutely no guardrails on trump this time..unless Biden uses his superpowers.

There will not be elections. He will just appoint someone.

USA = 1776 - 2024

You're clueless R9. Head in the sand and living in fairyland.

You fucks all said the same thing after 2016 and people like me were on here saying that we will survive. Then the Lord delivered us Mighty Joe Biden. I was telling you in 2017 on here that Joe would save us. I was the very first person. We survived him then, we’ll survive him now. And I’m telling you that Josh Shapiro is the more advanced version of Biden 2020.

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[quote] It will take more than four years to destroy America

The right has been working on it for decades. Trump et al Term 2 will deliver the dying blows.

You're totally clueless R17. Head in the sand and living in fairyland.

What do you think just happened? Are you incapable of critical thinking? You're fucking clueless and you'll be one of the first to be chewed up and spat out by what's coming.

Okay R20, you go ahead and lay down and die. Patriots will have work to do saving the remnants of this nation.

Josh needs work building his national profile.

[quote] America is a failed experiment.

It never recovered from 'The Sopranos' finale.

Genocide Josh!

Too soon! This relentless presidential campaign obsession has become pathological.

[Quote] The entire structure of the US federal government is about to change at great speed.

MARY!

You understand that, short of a violent coup with military support, Trump can’t change our system of government, correct?

That would require changes in law for some acts, or changes to the constitution for others.

For changes in law, do you think congresspeople want to pass laws reducing or ending social security, for instance? Yes, that would be very popular with the older voters that republicans rely on to win. 🤦🏻‍♂️

Meh. He leaves me cold.

If Shapiro is unable to secure additional funding for SEPTA and other mass transit agencies, his political future is DOA.

Who warms your seat up, R28? Gav?

Josh already took steps to fund SEPTA through July 2025, R29.

Governor Josh taking decisive action to help PA residents during this massive snowstorm

Shapiro suing Trump administration to unlock $1.2 billion in frozen PA federal funds.

Shapiro seems to be the only Democrat who has a functioning spine.

Et tu, Obama and Clinton?

I'm all for any Dem candidates with a spine to begin campaigning NOW!! Remember Trump has never ever stopped campaigning and this is how he took control of the narrative. He was everywhere all the time opening his yap

Fox is running negative stories about him almost daily. They know he’s the front runner at this point.

[QUOTE] I'm all for any Dem candidates with a spine to begin campaigning NOW!! Remember Trump has never ever stopped campaigning and this is how he took control of the narrative. He was everywhere all the time opening his yap

Trump didn’t have a job. Shapiro is the Governor of Pennsylvania and must be seen as putting that job first over running for president.

Nope, Any Beshear. Lots of Americans despise Jews. We need a white christian to run in 2028.

"Lots of Americans despise Jews."

Lots of Americans are stupid morons who voted for a convicted felon/con artist/grifter/thief/sexual pervert.

Your point?

r38 on Datalounge back in 2007: “Barack Hussein Obama? And he’s black? He can’t possibly win. We need a white Christian!!”

R38 is really living in a 90s kind of world if he thinks milquetoast Beshear is the answer. If you thought “Tampon Tim” was an insult…

We need someone who will kick some ass. That’s it.

His BDE and booming voice are a turn-on. I would give him a blowjob.

I don't want a Jewish president sympathetic to thieving, land-grabbing Israel.

But you'll toletate the current Gentile president sympathetic to thieving, land-grabbing Israel?

Never happening. He became an international joke with his Obama voice and ripping off Obama speeches. His love of Israel makes him DOA and he had way too many skeletons which includes a dead body. No go.

R46 is the same damn poster floating around looking for Shapiro mentions so he can bring up those “skeletons” he supposedly has. If they’re in the closet, how do you know about them? 😂

[quote]But you'll tolertate the current Gentile president sympathetic to thieving, land-grabbing Israel?

R45. I want him gone too.

R44/R48: Trump plans on sticking around for 2028 (or his current proxy, Elmo).

If the matchup is between Trump and Shapiro, what will you do?

Stay home like so many voters did in November? Because that was such a winning strategy for them then. I'm sure I will work in 2028 as well.

Shapiro vs. Trump would be awesome. If Shapiro had the nom in 2024, Trump wouldn’t be president right now.

R46 is certifiable. Ignore her. The” connection” he’s alleging is ludicrous.

R49, let’s not hope it isn’t between Trump and Shapiro in 2028. Because I guarantee, if Dump is running in 2028, he’s running unopposed.

Shapiro IS happening.

It's going to be a Beshear/Shapiro ticket and they will win easily.

R49. It would be a tough vote, but I would reluctantly vote for Shapiro. I wouldn't never ever vote for Trump. Shapiro is more rational, and could hopefully be persuaded not to give away Palestinian land to the Israelis.

I don't vote for third party candidates who have no chance of winning or influencing the legislative or executive branches of government.

Dump will not run in 2028. Unless he and his lackeys on SCOTUS suspend the constitution.

R55. Agree.

Besides, SCOTUS can not do away with an Amendment to the Constitution, which is what the amendment says limiting a president to two terms only.

To add or delete an amendment to the Constitution, three-quarters of Congress must vote on the proposal AND three-quarters of the states must also vote on the proposal as well. A Constitutional amendment cannot just be voted on by the Supreme Court.

There won't be a democracy left in the USA by 2028, and Trump will be permanent dictator.

Trump may not make it another 4 years. Those hamberders will eventually catch up with him.

^^Let's hope Trump's fatal heart attack happens soon.

There will be dancing in the streets!

[quote] Nope, Any Beshear. Lots of Americans despise Jews. We need a white christian to run in 2028.

I agree, the candidate has to be a white Christian male who isn't too far left.

Trump dying would rid us of Trump but not Vance who is just as stupid but young and a President Vance would have momentum for a run in 28.

The problem is Vance has the personality of a mailbox. Without Trump, I don’t think he’ll go very far on his own.

Is it off-putting that he would never consider a serious, LTR with a goy?

[quote]It may be a very, very long time before the US will be worth anything ever again. It's collapse is final.

[quote]Correct, [R7]. Rome fell tonight.

No, this period is more akin to when the Roman Republic (509 BC - 27 BC) transitioned into the Roman Empire (27 BC -- 476 AD).

Thus, the decline is a long way off, but first there will be a Pax Americana!

No way this guy.

r63, he loves the EAGLES though

Republicans lose when Trump isn't on the ticket, and he'll never be on another ticket. None of the other Repubs can turn out low-propensity voters the way that Trump can.

Democrats are going to win the VA governor's race in November, and we are going to see a blue wave in the 2026 midterms. A Beshear/Shapiro ticked will win the WH in 2028.

R67 I hope you're right.

[quote]A Beshear/Shapiro ticked will win the WH in 2028.

Shapiro/Beshear.

Milquetoast Andy is VP material.

MAGA will go away once Trump is gone. It was always a cult of personality about him.

Proud Philly guy here - love Josh and would really like to see him in the White House. But honestly, after four more years of trump destroying our democracy and the very fabric of our country, I am not sure anyone will be able to repair all of that damage.

[quote] Trump may not make it another 4 years.

You’ve been saying that since 2016.

[quote] Proud Philly guy here

No one who isn’t complete trash would be proud of coming from Philly.

Let's get a grip on what's happening now, and let the 2028 Horse Race begin in 2026 when it's supposed to.

The race has to begin now. Someone has to emerge as a leader on the D side.

[quote] Trump may not make it another 4 years.

[quote] You’ve been saying that since 2016.

Satan will eventually bring him home. Be patient. Then we rejoice.

I hope Debbie Dingell outlives Trump so she can mock his death like Trump did after her husband John died.

Shapiro gets the Trump admin to unfreeze billions in federal aid.

he's a cutie

[quote] Then the Lord delivered us Mighty Joe Biden. I was telling you in 2017 on here that Joe would save us. I was the very first person.

R17 How did he save us? We got Trump again. We couldn't get another Democrat elected after only four years of Biden. Don't you get it? People rejected Biden/Harris after one term.

I changed my mind on Shapiro. Too old. It must be a millennial.

Lori Shapiro needs a makeover. She should contact a cosmetic surgeon and starting to get some work done here and there in preparation for Josh's 2027 presidential run announcement.

Lori looks a dollar store version of Kathryn Hahn.

she looks like a dollar store Babs

[quote] I changed my mind on Shapiro. Too old. It must be a millennial.

The problem with millennial Dems is the mainstream media mostly focuses on Pete Buttigieg, AOC, and Jasmine Crockett. None of those three would win a general election for POTUS. Other millennial Dems and younger Gen X Dems are ignored by the media because they aren't attractive or they live in states that most people ignore. Melanie Stanbury is a younger Gen X Dem who is well spoken and has called out Trump and Musk quite a bit. But, people aren't going to clamor over her because she's from New Mexico and she's plain looking.

Gov Shapiro is going to PA Pride. 🇺🇸 🏳️‍🌈

If Shapiro doesn't deliver funding to SEPTA and other PA transit agencies by 6/30, both SEPTA and Shapiro's political career are toast.

When hasn’t Governor Shapiro delivered, R86?

Too bad he has no chance with the takeover by the Left-wing wackos, many of whom people are fans of here.

I adore Shapiro, but we NEED him in PA - he’s the only thing holding back the MAGA from ruining our state

Forget it, OP. The Democrats must really enjoy losing elections.

Maybe he can run for president of Israel.

R5 for the WIN! This thread is now officially closed. Squeaky clean Andy Beshear is the one.

Shapiro would have to renounce mutilation.

R85, I wish he would ride one of the floats shirtless.

I'm a PA native; lived here my whole life. I thank God for Governor Shapiro!

Harvey Milquetoast.

NEXT!

Too late now.

I haven't hear a peep out of him since the election. He better make some noise if we wants to be viable in 28

White-check. Straight-check. Male-check. Christian-next.

He's my governor. He's fine. Not really getting why everyone wants him to run.

Me neither, but that he sounds like Obama when he speaks

He's not going to win unless he favors regime change in Israel

[quote]I thank God for Governor Shapiro!

MARY!

He’s a great governor

So, what has he done that's so great?

Cause, outisde of PA, no one knows who the fuck he is, or cares.

Bland white guy middle of the road Dem.

NEXT!

I received my email today from Josh Shapiro asking for donations and support.

Shapiro supports genocidal Israel.

No fucking way anyone should support him.

R108’s viewpoint is held by a significant % of Dem voters and it is what will doom Shapiro’s chances. Fair or unfair, the Israel/Gaza atrocity is going to seriously handicap any Jewish American running for competitive elective office at this time and throughout the near future. See also Rahm Emanuel.

[QUOTE] He's not going to win unless he favors regime change in Israel

Of course he favors “regime change.” Just because you support Israel as a nation doesn’t mean you like Bibi. I don’t know any liberal American Jews who actually like Netanyahu. If they were living in Israel, they wouldn’t have voted for him.

In the recent book "Fight" about the 2024 election it suggests that he didn't want the VP slot but thought it would look bad to the party if he snubbed Kamala and didn't go through the interview process. So he agreed to meet her but people at the meeting were shocked by how arrogant he was and within 5 minutes of the interview beginning he was telling her what departments he wanted to be in charge of as VP. I guess we'll never know if that was his way of tanking the interview or if he's just an arrogant piece of work.

R109, that’s what I heard as well. He knew that his best shot at ‘28 or ‘32 was to just get some exciting 2024 buzz but not actually be Kamala Harris’s VP pick. He was right and he nailed it. But the Israel/Jewish piece will be a challenge for him now, fair or unfair.

R108: "regime change" refers to the forcible, coercive replacement of one government with another, often through military force. It's doublespeak: a euphemism for overthrowing a country's government. It involves a lot more than simply wanting to see Bibi replaced.

You get a sense that quite a few posters in this thread really dislike Shapiro. Until you realize that it's really just two, three trolls posting over and over and over here. Not that they bring anything noteworthy to the table, just negativity to create a lasting impression. Instead of driving me to other candidates, this behavior is driving me to moderated forums though.

[quote] Shapiro supports genocidal Israel. No fucking way anyone should support him.

Great sentiment! Wasn't that a major driver for people not to vote for Harris last year? Great move. Palestinians are probably super happy right now that you didn't vote for her.

Like a good sport, he showed up at dawn for Groundhog Day 2025:

No one can ever say why they like him. No one ever says what he's actually done that's noteworthy or beneficial. Just "I like Shapiro!" Or "he's great!" or "We love him in PA!" with zero context or reason.

Seems very forced. Very astroturfy.

And who would be paying us astroturfers, R115? Is it AIPAC? Or is Shapiro paying us personally from his supply of Jew Gold he keeps in a pouch?

When people were excited for Obama in 2007, what accomplishments could we point to that would’ve justified our enthusiasm? Or does this standard of needing to explain why we like a candidate only apply to Jews?

I wanted to like him, especially after he fixed the bridge -- but when I heard him speak, he seemed over-the-top arrogant.

But I guess he beats the hell outta Fetterman.

[quote] But the Israel/Jewish piece will be a challenge for him now, fair or unfair.

I like a lot of what he's said, as with Pritzker. But both are Jewish and in 2025 that is an area of concern in terms of electability. I wish it wasn't, they're both great, but it's the reality of where our country is right now.

Why is it an area of concern in terms of electability, R118? How did these men get elected governors of these huge states and why have they consistently enjoyed high approval ratings if it’s such a concern?

That’s baloney that he didn’t want to be VP. He’s just saving face. VPs usually become president.

Democrats will ever nominate a Jew.

[quote]And who would be paying us astroturfers, R115? Is it AIPAC?

Weird non-sequitur, R116. I have no idea if anyone is paying anyone, nothing in my post at R115 said anything about people being paid. I said it seems forced and astroturfy, meaning fake. Maybe you made that ridiculous leap because you're being paid? Over 20 of these posts are from you, and like I described, none mention a single actual reason why Shapiro should run for president.

[QUOTE] Democrats will never nominate a Jew.

In 2008 we had Clintonistas telling us Democrats would never nominate a candidate named Barack Hussein Obama and if they did, he was doomed to lose the general election. They were wrong then and you’re wrong now, R121.

After having a PoC and a Corrupt New Yorker I don't think "The people will never vote a [..] into office" works anymore. The exception would be misogyny. That still seems to be a viable deterrent.

Gavin Newsome, Josh Shapiro, Andy Beshear, all decent candidates. Don't overlook Chris Murphy who has been speaking out and kicking ass for months. And Corey Booker. Pete Buttigieg and Amy Klobuchar are also possibilities, although I would rather see Amy take over as Senate Majority Leader and tell Chuck Schumer to go sit down and STFU.

I could never see Klobuchar as president. But I wouldn't mind her trying the Senate leader.

R126 she is already doing a lot to put some backbone into Schumer. He relies on her and she has a lot of respect on both sides of the aisle. She's a very hard worker. I think she's make a great Senate Majority Leader.

I think Shapiro is wonderful - as governor

If you can be wonderful as a Democratic Governor of a big state like Pennsylvania, a state which went for Trump twice and will again decide the 2028 election, then you can also be wonderful as President.

R129 they will make being Jewish an issue. They're good at it. Right now here in Georgia, I am watching commercials saying <"Tell John Ossoff not to cave in to the political bosses and to vote to support working families by voting for the "working Families Tax cuts bill" or else all the jobs will go to China! Don't let Ossoff vote against working families!" Now this is a total misrepresentation and a bunch of fucking lies. Of course this is the BBB that will blow up the deficit and give tax cuts to the wealthy. I hate them all so much! We need money to put ads on TV to counter these lies.

[quote] John Ossoff

Jon.

[quote] Gavin Newsome

Newsom.

I can't wait to see how Newsmax twists themselves into knots insisting that a jewish guy is anti-semitic

[quote] Gavin Newsome, Josh Shapiro, Andy Beshear, all decent candidates. Don't overlook Chris Murphy who has been speaking out and kicking ass for months. And Corey Booker. Pete Buttigieg and Amy Klobuchar are also possibilities

Whoever we nominate in 2028, it will need to be someone who can project the image of a fresh, charismatic outsider, not someone who screams "Washington insider" or "experienced politician." Josh Shapiro and Andy Beshear are probably the only ones in your list who can pull that off (and Beshear is questionable because he's sorely lacking in charisma). Senators like Murphy, Booker, and Klobuchar are political insiders who won't excite the masses.

[quote]Senators like Murphy, Booker, and Klobuchar are political insiders who won't excite the masses.

The fact that American voters still need to feel "excited" about a Democratic candidate after what will have been eight years of Trump is a joke and a disgrace.

Last week I spoke to my Dutch brother, who works as a medical researcher at an East Coast university. Even though he's nervous about his immediate future and career in the US (he has a green card), he said that maybe the Trump presidencies were "necessary" in order to make Americans aware for a generation of how easily the country can slide into authoritarianism.

[quote] The fact that American voters still need to feel "excited" about a Democratic candidate after what will have been eight years of Trump is a joke and a disgrace.

It may be a joke and a disgrace, but it's also reality. Voters might hate Trump, but they're not thrilled by the Democrats either. Every time we fool ourselves into thinking "What voters want this time is an experienced politician who really understands Washington," we're wrong. (Biden in 2020 may be an exception, but that was an unusual election because of COVID.) Being charismatic, a good communicator, and someone who is comfortable with social media and talking to podcasters now trumps issues and policies. Welcome to politics in the 2020s.

[quote]Whoever we nominate in 2028, it will need to be someone who can project the image of a fresh, charismatic outsider, not someone who screams "Washington insider" or "experienced politician."

It’s going to be AOC. Might as well accept that now.

Rudolph needs to powder that nose.

[quote] the Trump presidencies were "necessary" in order to make Americans aware for a generation of how easily the country can slide into authoritarianism.

I feel like we're already beyond this point. Democrats and independent voters were aware of this already in the last election, and voted accordingly. Republican voters don't seem to care about this question. It seems to be too theoretical to make it a point of discussion. Biden made it a point in his short campaign. People didn't care. Trump now bombs Iran, and people don't care about the breach of law. Due process is dismantled, and people don't care about it either as long as it only hits 'illegal immigrants who just came to US recently.'

People only seem to start caring when they are impacted themselves or immediate family. Otherwise, no, people don't care.

Still waiting for one of the Shapiro Stans to list out why Shapiro would be a great candidate.

Starting with, what has he accomplished in PA?

He’s gotten a lot of legislation passed with a divided Legislature, and maintains a high approval rating in a politically diverse swing state.

[quote]Shapiro's most recent public approval ratings resemble those of a candidate who'll cruise to reelection, said Berwood Yost, a pollster and director of the Center for Opinion Research at Franklin and Marshall College.

Scandal-free, too

That's nice.

Not very specific, but....

Nice.

Not sure how those vague attributes propel him into the WH but...who knows?

He also has Big Dick Alpha energy.

R145

Oh, my sides!!!!

[quote] Being charismatic, a good communicator, and someone who is comfortable with social media and talking to podcasters now trumps issues and policies. Welcome to politics in the 2020s.

Add to that, most people get the news (if they read it at all) from Facebook, Fox News and other crap; decent newspapers are all but gone, so being able to convey complex info in the simplest, smoothest way possible for the absolute dumbest people is the way you have to go!

Antisemitism in America is at its highest point since the KKK reigned in the 1920s. I don't know what you people are smoking that makes you believe there's even the slightest chance in hell of this happening, but I'd sure love a hit.

It won't matter who we run. The Republicans have mastered messaging. They have a collusive legacy Media on their side. They lie, sow fear, divide, and do it with complete impunity. Any Democrat who gets into the race will do it on the defensive. They have mapped out strategies and test marketed messages in the so=called "off years." Point of fact is that they never stop campaigning. They also have powerful lobbying groups like Big Pharma, and energy to promote their positions at all time. They have tested language too. Which words and phrases get the kind of reaction they want? These are the things we have to overcome. Because the Republicans have proven repeatedly, that you can run a literal piece of shit for POTUS and win if you have the right message, the collusive support of the media, and unlimited amounts of dark money to throw at it.

[quote]he said that maybe the Trump presidencies were "necessary" in order to make Americans aware for a generation of how easily the country can slide into authoritarianism.

There was a psychic I scrolled past on TikTok who said the same thing. She said she wasn't going to choose sides, but the Trump presidencies happened "cosmically" so people could realize how fragile everything actually is and maybe, for once, start voting with this knowledge. If everything could be destroyed this easily, then maybe it wasn't built correctly in the first place.

Well, if the psychic on TikTok said it....

AKA Marianne Williamson?

Gavin vs Josh?

R113. Of course I voted for Harris in 2024.

Amy Klobuchar is not a viable presidential candidate.

R155 Exactly. She is not "warm" enough.

She could make an excellent Senate Majority Leader. Her balls are MUCH bigger than fucking Chuck the Cuck Schumer.

She'd be a very good Senate Majority/Minority leader.

That old fuck Schumer needs to go first. I’m sure he plans to be Senate leader until he’s 95.

[quote] Scandal-free, too

That’s not true. One involves a dead body.

[quote] Add to that, most people get the news (if they read it at all) from Facebook

Facebook? What year is this?

Not sure the Dems want to run a Jew considering the current global climate. And I couldn’t blame them.

did they ever convict the criminal who tried to burn down his house?

Seig, Heil!!! to the nazi pig fucker @R161.

R161, do you pay attention to anything?!

[quote]did they ever convict the criminal who tried to burn down his house?

There hasn’t been a trial yet.

The fire occurred at the Governor’s Mansion, owned by the State. Not at Shapiro’s personal home.

"his house" in where he and his family dwell.

"...Republicans have proven repeatedly, that you can run a literal piece of shit for POTUS and win if you have the right message, the collusive support of the media, and unlimited amounts of dark money to throw at it."

Even if you run a literal piece of shit for POTUS, you still have to have a large segment the population willing to vote for said POS.

In America we have a large contingency of faux Christians/faux patriots who pay lip service to democracy, but in reality want a fascist dictatorship like the one we have now here in the US.

These faux Christians/faux patriots hate freedom for themselves and others, and want somebody else to make every decision in life for them because thinking is difficult and it hurts

R168, I agree with you up to a point. There is always that core base of assholes, and that is where they start out from. So hypothetically, maybe 37% of the electorate. But they have to find the other 14 %. What I have been saying is that the Republicans have become experts at studying voter behavior and know how to manipulate people to vote against their own interests and we are seeing huge examples of this right now in real time. All those voters who became convinced that gangs of immigrants were destroying communities, and voted for Trump and are now crying and consumed with fear of ICE because "I didn't think he meant me!" Or the people who truly believed he would deal with inflation "on day one" and lower the price of eggs. We shake our heads at their stupidity, but Republicans have weaponized "low information voters" and exploited their fear, exploited divisions, and outright lied to them, and it worked. It's what they do.

Big Shapiro fan here! The radical left of the Democratic party will oppose him because of his support of Israel. They're stupid if they do. It will pay into Republican hands.

Shapiro is a strong centrist. That's what the party needs to win back the White House.

I’d like to Shapiro in a primary race up against AOC. Let’s see whether a strong moderate or an enthusiastic young progressive can better turn out the voters?

[quote] Not sure the Dems want to run a Jew considering the current global climate.

Dems won’t run a Jew because they hate Jews now. Shapiro is a self-avowed Zionist which makes him DOA within the party.

[quote] I’d like to Shapiro in a primary race up against AOC.

lol. Get ready for President Eric Trump.

[quote] Not sure the Dems want to run ...

... with anyone really. Whatever the candidate is, Democrats will find a perceived flaw in their existence just for being. And the official reasoning will be that X is "not electable". Remember when Obama was great but not electable? And Biden was fine but too mainstream? (And too old. OK, I give you this one)

Stupid thing is - in the end he can be a radical left or radical right or just a dumbass, as long he "tells it like it is". Substance is not really a core value voters go for. Feeling is everything.

[quote] The radical left of the Democratic party will oppose him because of his support of Israel.

And they would be correct to do so.

The radical left's disdain for support of Israel caused a lot of Democratic voters to stay home last November. I hope they are pleased with the outcome.

Supporting Israel is fine. Supporting the genocidal actions of the rightwing Netanyahu government is not fine. Josh Shapiro loves Israel but I guarantee that, like nearly all other Democrats, he despises Benjamin Netanyahu.

If Shapiro can’t make that distinction, then he can stay in Harrisburg.

I am sure he can make that distinction. I am not sure that Russian or Republicans trolls will make it easy on him to communicate the distinction though. You know that the troll system and uneducated users will not allow intricate reasoning.

He’s a great governor.

He’s a good communicator. As good as Bootyjudge.

[quote]Governor Andy Beshear of Kentucky is another contender for 2028. He's shown he can win in Red America twice.

Unfortunately, Andy Beshear does not come across well on TV. He has the classic deer-in-the-headlights look, and even though his answers are right on target, Americans want someone who has a good TV personality. Buttigieg, Shapiro, and Newsom are much better in this area. Even Trump, in his demented craziness, has a strong TV personality.

Blink, Andy, blink!!

Beshear is more of a dullard than Al Gore.

That face has Veep written all over it.

This issue is going to be very difficult for Shapiro to navigate.

R185 you are assuming that this issue still persists in 2028. If the issue is resolved before October it won't be an issue in November anymore because people don't remember shit.

[quote] Unfortunately, Andy Beshear does not come across well on TV. He has the classic deer-in-the-headlights look, and even though his answers are right on target, Americans want someone who has a good TV personality.

I tend to agree. In terms of charisma, Beshear ranks pretty close to Jeb Bush, imo. Not a good position to win because nowadays charisma is really all you need to win.

R186 The genocide happening in Gaza isn't going to magically disappear in 3 years...

Nobody gives a shit about the Tranny "genocide" any more, and nobody is going to give a shit about Palestinians in 3 years either.

Or, those silly Jews who allowed themselves to be slaughtered 80 years ago!!!

Old news!!!!

Right now as we play the same tired game of "who can win,?" the Republicans are thinking and strategizing about the wedge issues they can manufacture to divide us, scare us, and manipulate us. And in every state there will be something on the ballot that mobilizes the base. We have to get in front of the issues not play defense. We need to be dreaming up strategies to beat t hem at their own game.