How the fuck are we gonna get through another four years of this?

Datalounge will help us get through it OP. It will be a light to us, when all other lights go out.

i just actually cried tears.

Mary.

How the fuck are we going to live through this?

Mate, not to pile on but it’s going to be longer than that. The American judiciary is going to be FUCKED into oblivion. This is it, this was the turning point. Under fascist rule, the opposing party doesn’t win elections. Look for the reputations of high profile opposition to be ruined by disinformation. There’s going to be a major chilling effect on all aspects of American life.

And they will deliver the hate. That will keep the masses happy, for a while. But it’ll be 15 years before they figure out how hard they’ve been fucked and nobody will really remember what “democracy” was and entire generations will have never experienced it.

This was it. This was the moment. Go read Project 2025. It’s going to be swift not gradual or incremental. That way the courts won’t be able to deal with it.

Deportation of 12M people. My god.

Ugh. I feel so sick right now.

Gay men can have a gallows humor about things. It's those on DL who are not gay men who can't handle their emotions. I had already situated myself to be okay no matter who won and find the humor wherever it may be.

Is this really it? Is there no hope right now? I can't even believe it.

Expect more school shootings, more deaths because of refusal of care for pregnant women, just the worst ever scenario we could even imagine.

It will not be four years.

I want to die.

This is now the rest of our lives. There is no way to right this ship.

I sat down and cried just thinking about the Ukrainian people.. Our beautiful old flawed democracy dead.

I can't think of another 4 years of the fat orange and all the shit he and MuskOx are going to wreak upon our country.

If i didn't have adult children and a dog I love, I'd just check out at this point.

flame away, but I do care about the very few connections I have. what can we do at this point?

This is fucking horrible. How do so many people in our country agree with this maniac???

Fuck. I really can't believe this. Where do we go from here?

[quote]How the fuck are we gonna get through another four years of this?

I didn't know you posted on DL, Melania.

I had mentally prepared myself for this, while at the same time worked my tail-off for the Democratic Party and hoped with sweet hope Americans would reject Trump and Republicans.

I’m devastated and sad, not so much for me, but for younger Americans. I’ve lived a full life and fortunately I didn’t bring a child into this painful world.

i think we need to make a new country, branch off. this is fucking bullshit. i'm sick of living with the people who feel it's okay to live in a dictatorship.

I will smoke copious amounts of pot and masturbate.

[quote]I’m devastated and sad, not so much for me, but for younger Americans. I’ve lived a full life and fortunately I didn’t bring a child into this painful world.

I don't have kids. But, I'm saddened for the children of my friends and relatives. They are going to be in for a world of hurt.

[quote]How the fuck are we gonna get through another four years of this?

By observing his continuing cognitive degeneration magnified by global attention and incredulity.

I don't think Trump will serve a full term. He's in cognitive decline and he's obese. Shit will catch up to him and we will be stuck with Vance who likely be worse than Trump.

That's the worry, r19

It doesn’t matter if you live in a blue state. Bye bye gay marriage. Bye bye abortion. Bye bye anything Trump’s henchmen don’t like. For women and gays it will be like living in Afghanistan.

It's over.

We're over.

This won't be four years.

It's us now.

[quote] Datalounge will help us get through it OP. It will be a light to us, when all other lights go out.

Many of DL's threads helped me get through a lot of shit in my life from 2016-2020 in addition to Trump's first presidency and covid. The last few months of 2016 were shit for me as I lost my job prior to election.. I spent the last couple of months of 2016 house/pet sitting for a friend's parents while they were in another state taking care of an ill parent. I got a job offer in December 2016 for a remote job that I started in January 2017. 2017 was mostly an ok year for me personally. But, my aunt who I was very close to became ill towards the end of the year and passed away in early 2018. 2019 came and two close relatives were diagnosed with cancer. Many things going on politically during those years pissed me off, but the blue wave in 2018 gave me some hope. 2020 was a shit year for everyone. During those years DL brought up some laughs during an awards season and awards shows in addition to many threads I followed.

DL will be our only beacon of light.

I kind of feel like it’s bye bye to my family. We’ve kept a respectful distance the last 4 or 5 months, I know they all voted for Trump again - even my dumb niece who’s trying to start a family through IVF treatments - and I want nothing to do with them.

I have one nephew and two cousins who don’t support Trump. I’ll gladly stick with them and the rest of them can get fucked.

DL was there for me when i lost my job for over a year and a half and i watched Love Boat for 2 months straight during the holiday season.

I'll be there for you. I hope you will be there for me. You've been there for me a good 12 years now.

I'm sorry for all of us, though. I wanted more for us.

What the Fuck did these stupid people in America do?

I’m 63. I wonder if I should claim my social security now. I don’t have a mortgage but I do have some other debt.

They sent us back to the Middle Ages.

The thing is, it’s not just us. It’s the world. The only beacon of democracy now in the world is the EU and that’s wavering.

It’s not going to be a great century.

Maybe this is the end of us. We clearly don't get what humanity is about.

Perhaps we're actually looking at the end.

I don't want to be that person, but we can't get basic human rights inline. It might be the end since we refuse (as the largest economy) to actually care about the planet and its people as a whole.

I could be wrong, but we don't see to be progressing; we're regressing.

I wonder how Zelenskyy will survive. Now, maybe Ukrainians themselves will tell him to take a peace deal with Putin.

Unfortunately, if I were a Ukrainian, I’d be pretty desperate seeing the results of the US election.

[quote] I’m devastated and sad, not so much for me, but for younger Americans.

Too many of them, especially the men, came out for Fascism. Ruin their futures even more. Fuck climate change, keep that house, Don’t hire them.

[quote] I kind of feel like it’s bye bye to my family. We’ve kept a respectful distance the last 4 or 5 months, I know they all voted for Trump again - even my dumb niece who’s trying to start a family through IVF treatments - and I want nothing to do with them.

[quote]I have one nephew and two cousins who don’t support Trump. I’ll gladly stick with them and the rest of them can get fucked

If you want to cut off contact with Trump supporter relatives go for it. I no longer speak to the few Trump supporter relatives. They live in other states which lessens the likelihood of ever seeing them again. I cut off contact with Trump supporters who I have known from high school, college, and past jobs. My mother was a registered Republican (socially liberal Republican) but she never liked Trump and didn't vote for him in 2016 and she became a registered Democrat in 2018 . She voted for Biden in 2020 and Harris this cycle. My father passed away in 2023, but he was a Democrat and he hated Trump. My dad was a Vietnam veteran and in a weird way, I'm sort of glad that he's not here to see Trump in office again. It would have really pissed him off.

Brace yourselves, histrionics

foad r35 (if you're a trumpster)

Well said R3. And on top of everything else you've said - lets not forget that we gays are a major target of Project 2025. We got too uppity for them and now we're going to pay the price.

Wow. So if Twitter is any indication it looks like MAGA is going to gaslight their way through this by stating we have nothing to fear. They don’t think anything bad is going to happen, that the “left-wing” media misrepresented Trump and that he’s really a moderate who wants to unite the country.

At least that’s amusing. The U.S. is going to be like China.

Perhaps it's time for a civil war. we're all lazy, but this is really a good time to rally and decides we've FUCKING HAD IT ALREADY.

we did it in the past. when else could it be time to do it again but now? am i crazy? maybe. but you know what? it's time to put up or shut up.

They also don’t see the federal abortion ban coming and obviously know nothing about the impact of Dobbs on women.

I think a lot of the issues in this election were things people didn’t want to think about or confront so it was easy for them to ignore it and were probably tuned out altogether.

It’s almost funny to think how the union guys who voted for Trump just voted away any overtime pay they may have counted on. Because they won’t be getting overtime pay anymore thanks to Project 2025.

[quote]I wonder how Zelenskyy will survive. Now, maybe Ukrainians themselves will tell him to take a peace deal with Putin.

There will be peace negotiations as there are with any war. It's always a question of when.

Peace negotiations R41? Russia INVADED a sovereign country. What the fuck are you talking about. Peace negotiations would be Russia withdrawing from Ukraine and handing their land back.

My Trumpy sister in Ohio and me texting back and forth this morning.

[quote]Trump won! I'm happy, all candidates I voted for won. :)

[quote]I didn't vote for him. But enjoy. I just hope we have social security in 10 years.

[quote]I feel we will. I hope Trump gets the illegal aliens out so the money and benefits going to them gets funneled back to Social Security.

[quote]Let's not talk about politics. I never did with you guys when my preferred candidates won.

Fortunately her next text switched the subject to her cats. Otherwise it’s grey rock up to punch and delete. But get ready for unsolicited taunting.

I am on assistance and am worried about losing my benefits, Michigan is now all Repug. So sad and scary.

I'm worried about losing my healthcare.

[quote] It’s almost funny to think how the union guys who voted for Trump just voted away any overtime pay they may have counted on. Because they won’t be getting overtime pay anymore thanks to Project 2025

They will have meltdowns when there is no overtime pay.

When the 2025 holiday season arrives, the Teamsters who are UPS drivers and voted for Trump will bitching all over social media.

That’s okay, R47. They can be replaced by less skilled, lower paid workers. We plan on doing away with all regulatory hurdles on this.

Hey Trump voters — enjoy paying thousands of dollars for insulin, no copay free preventive tests, the return of preexisting conditions, no more student loan forgiveness, oh and most of all — if you’re straight no birth control because it WILL be banned. It’s beginning to look a lot like Christmas!

Some of female Trump voters who are married to martial cheaters might be pissed when their husbands' mistresses get pregnant and start hitting up their men for money to travel out of state for abortions.

Exactly, R50. And I just know my 59 year-old brother - who already had some of his toes amputated this year due to his diabetes and had three major surgeries to repair and re-route the vascularity in both his legs - I just know he voted for Trump. Good luck on those insulin prices and Medicaid, dummy!

He’ll they might even roll back gay marriage. There will be censorship of the press. Even sites like this one will be looked down upon by the right, and potentially shut down.

[quote]Hell they might even roll back gay marriage.

They have promised to do exactly that R53. AFTER they have removed all federal protections and anti-discrimination laws for gay people.

[quote] Gay men can have a gallows humor about things.

Maybe the older gay men, for whom HIV was a death sentence, and who witnessed the deaths of countless talented peers. Not sure about the younger generation.

Well, as older gay men, we never had any of these things anyway. So maybe we’ll cope better? It’s still heartbreaking.

r1, honestly, this is true. to be able to bitch about stuff like this here keeps my sanity

Looongtime lurker, first time poster here. I actually found this site around early 2020 while doing a google search for something related to the Golden Girls, and of course ended up here, and I was hooked. You guys got me through the 2020 election during those nerve-wracking days until it was finally called for Biden. My hope was that I could make my first post celebrating Kamala’s victory. Instead, my first post is to say how gutted I am. I thought I had mentally prepared myself for this outcome, but given my disbelief, rage, devastation, and complete shock, clearly I was deluding myself. Unfortunately, I don’t have much of a support system to lean on, and, even more unfortunately, most of my family are trumpers, so I’m feeling pretty alone. I guess one of my ways of coping with this complete tragedy is this site so I don’t feel so alone. That, and copious amounts of alcohol and xanax. Just want to say thank you for being here.

[quote] most of my family are trumpers, so I’m feeling pretty alone

You could certainly find something to talk about with them at the moment.

Sorry you are feeling alone, R58. Online spaces can be a good way to find community.

I’m sure quite a few people will opt for some Golden Girls comfort TV and nostalgia for a saner time over the next few years.

Hugs to you R58. Glad you posted. You're obviously thoughtful and articulate. Post more please! Don't be shy.

Perhaps Canada? Or Norway?

Thank you, R60 and R61. R60, thanks for the advice, I just put on GG on Hulu. I’m in a fog of despair right now and hopefully, they can provide some laughs. R59, as angry as I am with them, and I’m utterly furious, it wouldn’t be wise to have a discussion with them about this. After the 2016 election, I was so angry with them that I refused to speak with them for a long time, and we eventually reconciled. Then my sister passed away unexpectedly a few years ago, which left me completely devastated, and I’m still devastated. The thought of (figuratively) losing more family members is too much to take. For years, I have tried to convince them that they are supporting evil people who have horrible, hurtful policies, but nothing gets through, so at this point, we have an unspoken moratorium on political discussions (though we’ll see if that holds for Thanksgiving). I try to console myself with the fact that we live in a blue state so their votes don’t really matter. Additionally, my mother is pretty elderly, and I always wonder if the last time I speak with or see her will be my last, and I wouldn’t be able to handle the guilt if the last thing I said was that I can’t forgive her for supporting trump.

Lastly, I think I upvoted my own comment several times, thinking it was replying? Please forgive me while I figure out how to work this site.

R28 I wish I could. I'm only 60 though. Too young?

Sorry for being blunt in this post. Spoiler alert: you won't like what I'm about to say and if you're feeling particularly fragile this morning, which is understandable, you might want to move to the next post.

For me, I’m going when my subscription expires on the 21st. DL is too stubborn about what needs doing to be of any comfort in the next four years. I can just about stand the futile whining and complaining about what will happen, but the adamant refusal DL's hard to left to compromise is too much for anyone capable of critical thought to bear. Too many of you are as bad as the people you hate, you’re just blinded by your righteous progressivism, rather than a dead myth of the greatest nation on earth.

Any time anybody challenged you on your myth of greatness arrogance even DLers reverted instantly to the MAGA within. You wanted all the rights of being the world's biggest in so many things, but none of the responsibilities. You wanted nothing to do with humility, humanity, modesty or the shared. Easy qualities to mock, and do you ever. How many other nations have you mocked, most of which rank higher in quality of life than yours? American ignorance has fucked the whole world. It breaks my heart, for you guys and for everyone else. I'm sorry to kick you when you're down but you took us down too. I am sorry for you. And furious with you.

We.are.all.fucked. I hope you don't suffer too much in the future, which I fear won't just be four years. I don't know what's going to happen but I fear it, for you all and everybody. I am genuinely sorry for you, despite my anger. I cannot believe your country has done this.

Here is what I did-- I unsubscribed to every fucking PSYCHIC I subscribed to on Youtube-every one of them was WRONG AS FUCK, I have now ditched EVERY political channel minus 2 small ones with two guys that really grew to like.. The political world will not exist to me minus what I read here. There will be no more clicking on links to ANY channel/news source. I ditched my NYT subscription today.

This is not just 4 years- what we have done in this country is FOREVER...

I am dreading the tax implications that will hit us all in 2-3 years- I can barely make it as it is... And that's if I even have a job.

I am going to enjoy the holidays and watch films and LET THIS COUNTRY go---

I will be choosing friends more wisely and cutting out anyone who had anything to do with this dictator.

If I was watching the channels I watched every day NOW I would kill myself within 3 months.

I'm crying too, but its like mourning anyone- you adjust.

There will be some kind of revolt. Not just women this time. The late night comics will have material for four years - if Trump makes it that far, lol. All my family members who told me 'I understand your concerns, but nothing BAD happened the first time HE won' just don't get it. Their beloved grandsons will end up fighting stupid wars.

R67- I don't see any revolts. I see him dying, and we will be even worse off with Vance-

One thing I will not block out is the implementation of Project 2025-- I will deal with that as it comes....

I hate this - the weather this morning in New England is BEAUTIFUL.. It reminds me of 9/11 in many, many ways

Shit feels creepy. Just creepy

Sadly- these anti Trump channels like Meidas and Cohen will make BANK-- off of the next 4 years, while having TONS of material-- That is why I ditched them all last night and this morning.. They will not be making money off of me as the world implodes. I dont want or need any more information from them. It accomplishes nothing. I kept Glenn Kershner (sp) he was one of 2... I like him and he doesn't need the Youtube channel.

[quote]I unsubscribed to every fucking PSYCHIC I subscribed to on Youtube

Are you being facetious? I sincerely hope you are.

Just try to enjoy what you can

I'm just trying to look on the bright side in all this. Time flies and hoping 4 years will feel just that. And then, Trump and his MAGA cult this will just be an unpleasant memory forever, fingers crossed.

I love that Marianne lady from Australia because this place recommended her. She is the only psychic I kept my subscription to.. I sound like an airhead, but she is SO pro democracy and just a good person. She must be very upset this AM.. I am afraid to check her out. I am actually scared to death of Youtube at this moment and just cannot check it out.

There a few evil fucks from work who I HATE to begin with, at this moment one chick from TX is DEAD to me. This bitch is just vile from a human standpoint. So I am trying to erase the hatred in my heart. I can literally feel it in my heart and stomach.

Its just not good-

Last thing- I watched this lovely white haired lady going from door to door yesterday- She had to be 75- I know she was canvassing for Kamala. I cannot get her out of my head. She exuded kindness. She LIVED through all of these years- For some reason that is haunting me this AM. Actually-" crying as I type." LOL

Bad bad times my friends.. Just bad times..

R70- No- There were some cool ones with 100K followers that I did watch- like 5? Cash Peters was one...

I know I sound like an airhead. It doesnt matter now.

I follow one astrologer who predicted a Trump win and not because he’s a fan

FOUR YEARS -you wish. You must be a Trumper.

He's just like OJ getting away with murder.

[quote]Here is what I did-- I unsubscribed to every fucking PSYCHIC I subscribed to on Youtube-every one of them was WRONG AS FUCK.

I understand your pain, R66, but you genuinely made me laugh for a minute.

Thank you, DL. Everyone I know is just hiding out in kitten videos.

Trump and Covid returning at the same time with RFK jr BANNING vaccinations.

Welp, I am hopeful he won't make it 4 years.

Yeah, but Vance will be fucking worse.

He is white male entitlement falling upwards.

I hate him. I hope he chokes on Thiel’s rotten cocklet.

Aside from the policies, I don't want to continue to live in a population that's this divisive — and it's going to get worse. I live in a rural area (near a college) and these fucking Trump flags will never come down. I'm going to have to continue to stare at them every day. It's a cult. The resistance has some deep thinking to do. It also matters how Biden closes out his presidency.

R81, given his obvious physical and mental decline, I’d be surprised if he makes it a full year into his term, but that leaves us with President Vance, which would probably be an even nastier shitshow.

This can't be fixed. A majority of voters in this country support a man who made no secret of his immorality, inhumanity, contempt for the vulnerable, incoherent references, his egotism and arrogance off the charts.

Maybe it has to get very bad before it gets better but I'm not holding my breath. When Bush was elected for the second time I did what so many said they will do, I left the country. It had the desired effect and I was happy. No one was interested in the U.S. because they know there's nothing they can do about us.

But now, there's nowhere to go. The autocrats are everywhere and I'm old. I do live in California so that will have to be good enough, but the moral squalor is here, too. Sometimes when I pass all the churches in this town I'm wistful that I don't believe. And Jesus wept.

And the fact that Trump is so physically repulsive just adds another layer of grime over the future of this country.

R7 if that, then we get Vance .....

I really think unsubscribing to all psychics is the answer.

R83, this may not be too helpful, but is it possible to just not look at all the signs/flags? I live in a blue state, and this year there were far fewer trump signs than in 2016 and 2020. There were also many more Harris signs than there were for Biden, which I thought was an optimistic portent, which shows how wring I was. Anyway, once I became familiar with the houses that had trump signs, I’d drive by without even looking at them. I feel like actively ignoring them actually helped me not be so angry, though it may not help so much now that he won. Just a suggestion. Good luck, friend.

[quote] I really think unsubscribing to all psychics is the answer.

The Bible forbids divination and soothsaying. Just saying.

Unless there is another once in a century pandemic, every day will be a pure Trump day.

Just need to make sure Fox/OAN/Newsmax cover it all.

Hopefully, Dems have great success in the midterms and make inroads in both houses. I think we will be in a good position in 2028 with a male candidate like Josh Shapiro or Andy Beshear. The good news is that no Republican nominee will have anywhere near the appeal of Trump. Trump brings out voters like no one else. Latino and black men really like Trump, but it's specific to him.

I think you may be understating the fact a lot of men from unlikely backgrounds have been converted to thinking of themselves as Republican voters. Agree a more conventional candidate is probably a good thing, but it's got to be about the ideas.

[quote] There will be some kind of revolt.

There was a revolt, a revolt by the working class against the elites.

[quote]There was a revolt, a revolt by the working class against the elites.

The trolls have not gone home.

[quote] I think you may be understating the fact a lot of men from unlikely backgrounds have been converted to thinking of themselves as Republican voters.

Especially young men. I’m seeing a lot of videos today of young men basically coming out of the political closet, saying they have been hiding their views on campus but now cheering Trump’s win.

Whenever one party controls everything, it can only do downhill from there. They get the blame for every bad thing that happens. The public loves to build them up and then tear them down. If the economy goes south, Dems will rise to power again. It's always about the economy.

That assumes elections after the election.

So they overwhelmingly vote for the guy who inherited millions from his dad and who shits in a gold toilet. An anti-union loser who stiffs his workers and is funded by billionaires. TAKE THAT, ELITES!!

Hey Michigan, kiss all those Union jobs goodbye when Trump disband unions...and takes their cash...

Get angry. His last term brought about the #metoo movement. He's going to get in the same trouble as last time. He's a sociopath who lies, bullies and cheats. They'll be at least one impeachment attempt.

This is all about Trump, who is unfortunately very charismatic and a great retail politician. Just as it was all about Clinton and Obama as charismatic figures. There will be no lasting political shift. There never is. In 4 years, voters will be on to the next political star.

Trump won over first time voters by 9%

Repeat after me...Stolen Election!

Hey, it worked for them.

r38 I have made my twitter account private and unintalled the app of my mobile phone. Want to keep my options open incase things improve in the future so I haven't deactivmy account....yet. I barely tweet nowadays. Very rarely but I go on daily and observe. But I have increasingly enjoyed the twitter experience less and less since Musk took over and his astroturfing via playing with the algorithm so you are bombarded with tweets promoting his ideas and politics is way too much. Twitter is now like a sewer of extremism and quarrels. Very heated . I know if I kept the app on my phone the temptation to look at it every day and end up in a bad mood, pissed off and angry , depressed and heightened blood pressure is just too much. Other people I know who have quit twitter say it has been a real boost to their wellbeing and mental health. I'm only on day one but I'm going to stick with my plan. Viewer active issrs, less engagement will hit gobshite Musks bottom line if that's any comfort. Things are not going to improve on twitter anytime soon if ever and I believe it will end up financially fucked. It is now a tool for evil and I think leaving the platform is something many of us should consider.

[quote]I am on assistance and am worried about losing my benefits, Michigan is now all Repug. So sad and scary.

Michigan still has a Democratic governor, secretary of state and attorney general, and it grew the Democratic majority on its state supreme court yesterday. The battle for U.S. senator is yet be decided.

I understand feeling dejected, but let's keep some perspective.

We’ve all been living in fools paradise. To reward this criminal with a second and possibly endless presidency will prove to be the American Holocaust with Europe going to Putin.

Will Trump pull us out of NATO? He wanted to do it before, now with Defense Secretary Mike Flynn he'll do it. I'm sorry Europe, we failed you.

[quote]How the fuck are we gonna get through another four years of this?

With cavities, measles and polio, apparently.

Can we still get a smallpox vaccine anywhere? Yes, I’m serious.

I had one as a kid, but it’s going to make a comeback and I want to get one before they’re banned.

Not even a flu shot?

Yodeling with America's Sweetheart Susan Richardson!

Old TV show clips and escapism will help me get through this.

Europe are going to have to pull themselves together. The days of the U.S. being “too big to fail” as a democratic ally are OVER - and hopefully they’ve been planning for it. The U.S. is no longer a trusted ally and I’m sure this will be reflected in every relationship with a foreign power. There will be a complete alignment in the works order.

I’m casting around for something absorbing enough that escapism will work for me, too, R112.

If I can’t find anything I’m just going to nap all the time.

*re-alignment in the world order.

Is there a betting market open yet for how long before Trump dies?

[quote]Not even a flu shot?

You'll likely be able to get a flu shot (and other vaccines), but you'll have to pay out of pocket for it.

Far fewer people will get them as a result, making them less profitable for their manufacturers, who will eventually just stop making them.

I'd like to see Jack Smith slam, this week, everyone involved, everyone in the House and the Senate, with indictments. Sure they'll get pardoned and the indictments will go nowhere, but everyone will learn exactly what they did, exactly who trump sold national security secrets to, and the full truth about every single criminal and illegal thing that trump did..

I want that, and a unicorn.

R66 -- I did the exact same thing. The ones I thought were the most reliable were Cash and Maryann but this time they couldn't have been more wrong. Neither one of them have posted today and Cash usually posts on Wednesdays.

I saw that Dianne's Tarot posted an "update" so I watched it and it was downright comical how she blamed her viewers for believing her predictions and denied she'd predicted anything. "You heard what you wanted to hear." No, lady, you told people what they wanted to hear. Then she disabled the comments on a bunch of her posts where she had predicted things.

And for those who want to scold me for watching readers and so-called psychics, save it. It's something I've done since Trump's first go round and it helped sooth me even though I (mostly) didn't take it seriously.

R66 and R199, I did the same thing! And guess where I first learned about any of these YT psychics? That's right - right here on DL. If it weren't for DL, I would have never heard of any of them.

Well, their loss is YT animal videos' gain. Not that I don't already watch a shit ton of those!

WHEN DO THE TEARS STOP??

[quote]I'd like to see Jack Smith slam, this week, everyone involved, everyone in the House and the Senate, with indictments

He will pardon all of the insurrectionists of Jan 6 too

Sweetie..it won't be just four years..

Trump will never leave now, unless he passes away or Jaydine gets rid of him via the 25th Amendment.

And then that fat faced couch fucker will NEVER leave.

I have a little more empathy for the "apolitical" Russians now (not the ones who actively support Putin or the war, obviously). You get to a point where you simply feel powerless and you have to detach to preserve your mental health.

If the stock market responds as well as it did today, I’ll go to my happy place, reviewing my 401k balance.

[quote] Is there a betting market open yet for how long before Trump dies?

I don't think he will die anytime . But, we all know he's not in great health and has been looking shit lately. My prediction is that he will suffer a stroke that will leave him unable to talk and he will be wheelchair bound. JD will get rid him of via the 25th amendment.

I had a great aunt who verbally and physically abused her kids and other relatives. Most of her kids hated her. Only 2 (the youngest two) of her 8 kids kept in regular contact or visited regularly after they moved out of her house. When my great aunt was 74 she suffered a stroke, but her speech wasn't effected. She was overweight and didn't do well in rehab. She spent the last ten years of her life in a wheelchair and mostly homebound. My mom said living in a disabled body was karma for how my great aunt treated her kids and other relatives.

[quote]JD will get rid him of via the 25th amendment.

Usha will make a lovely First Lady. Can't wait to see her Vogue cover.

R118, I think the plan Jack Smith has - and has probably already prepared - are full, unredacted reports on both investigations with all the evidence to be released before Trump takes office with Garland’s sign off.

It’s the most he can do.

They don’t need the 25th amendment! They just need an open window! They’re not going to bother with anything constitutional. Then there’s no separation between them and Trump, they can be all like, “We’re carrying on his legacy!”

We’re in Russia now, not the U.S. That’s how they do things. And it’s going to be swift. Remember how the first 7 months of W’s administration was so quiet, nothing happened except there was that Chinese aircraft or whatever parked on a runway somewhere? And W went home to TX every weekend to rake leaves and the whole administration was up to nothing and then - BAM! 9/11 happened and they swung into action immediately with all these plans, 1,000s of pages of security legislation, etc.? It’s going to be like that only a lot sooner. I bet we won’t even see much of Trump. They’ll confiscate his phone, keep him behind closed doors, he’ll be allowed to make an appearance but no chopper talk, just from a distance and then - BAM! “We’re sorry to report Trump died today. Meet your new President - JD Vance.”

I give it 4 months.

Because the problem for Trump is that he wants to be liked. As they implement Project 2025 he won’t be fully impervious to criticisms and will try to soften the delivery. That’s why they’re going to remove him. They got what they wanted. They have a fully compliant, completely immoral VP in place who is ready to be rewarded with riches. They won’t need Trump getting in the way, fucking things up.

When Trump goes, that’s when we’ll know we’re really fucked.

Is Donnie going to get his tank parade?

R120 and R199--

That Linda Comanche Psychic is completely embarrassed-- YOU BITCHES recommended her too, so like. good little boy I followed DL's impeccable taste! I actually felt bad for her, and she came across like, well, a fraudster- She said she has already lost 500 subscribers, and I was like, SHIT that's right, I need to ditch you too. So I unsubscribed.

I am sticking with Mary Ann/Revealing Light because she is not a sheister and is truly a good lady.. She is going to be taking this very, very hard-

I read my posts about the psychic shit and I DO sound like a loon! But DL MADE ME!!!

Its all over folks. Time to appreciate the LITTLE things. Wine, a nice sweater... a warm breeze... Sunshine... A sunny January morning when the sun shines on the snow and the air is so crisp and filled with promise. I think this is the shit that we will take with us. This world does not seem so kind anymore and I dont think that anything will matter as much to lose going forward.

You all truly are some of the smartest and FUNNY people alive. I try to be "funny" all the time here sometimes it works and sometimes it bombs.. and sometimes I will be trolly just to read your nasty responses. You make me happy. My attempt at a Liza (Lizcha) thread was an out an out disaster. But just reading "How pathetic" makes me so happy.

I am at a loss and blogging at this point. I keep seeing all of those women at Howard University in my mind.. Its humbling. The thought of them makes my face flush. I am humbled and humiliated. I knew on 9/11 when I was 21 that the world was far crueler than I knew. And now I know this for sure.

r133 Because of the recent assassination attempts we are all focused on Trump being at risk of being taken out by a gunman etc but it's also possible that some one concerned at what kind of President Jd Vance would make might actually attempt to take him out instead? He could be equally at risk. I'm not condoning it but someone politically savvy who is a bit psycho/ unhinged and opposed to project 25 could go down that road seeing Vance as the bigger threat.

I’ll just repeat what I said to a friend the day after the 2016 election: “We better not have a crisis!” (Unfortunately we did have a crisis.)

Can Dark Brandon at least leave us some lovely parting gifts?

I feel relatively confident he won't last 4 years. I seriously doubt he'll last 2 years considering how seriously mentally impaired he already is.

So, r139?

Listen, JD Vance hates Trump's guts. If Trump dies or is taken out of office Vance will likely soften his stance considerably.

r141 What happens if the vice President dies in the US system? Does the President pick a new VP or does it can to the next in line ie the house speaker?

LMFAO, r141!

You sweet, naive summer child!

You realize who is behind Vance, right? That cunt Musk, Thiel, crypto scammers - if you think that couch fucking asshole will “soften” anything, you need to read project 2025.

Vance is ALL IN on that shit. He wrote the forward to it. The only thing that will get “soft” is the stock market, housing market, the bond market and the entire US economy.

I cannot watch Kamala's concession speech- I will kill myself-

One day, I will watch it- maybe on Christmas Eve to remind myself of the good in the world-

Current Stage of Grief: Ready to sit back and watch the people who voted for him enjoy Project 2025

Vance is a Christian Nationalist, tech fascist cunt. He is pure evil and believes in race science and hates democracy. He Musk, Thiel and others want to devalue the dollar and make billions on crypto.

America is toast.

I won’t be surprised if RFK Jr finds himself sidelined. He was a useful idiot for Trump and he can be cast aside.

I'm R119. There is no R199 yet. I just watched LindaG's latest out of curiosity. I've long thought she was full of it but she was also entertaining so I still watched her sometimes. She was very remorseful and she didn't scold her viewers.

The one who get more things wrong than all the rest of them put together ( I started making note of things he would predict and his record was abysmal) is Sterling.

Maryann does get things right. She predicted months ago that more would come out about Epstein and Trump right before the election and it did. But naturally it didn't go anywhere. She said in her latest more still would come out but...unfortunately she neglected to say it doesn't matter one bit because he has immunity now. Oh, I'm sure she'll be mortified, too. But when these people have ONE JOB and they get it 100% wrong...

From the DL Archives December 8th 1941

“ it’s over” “ surrender now” “ can I move to Canada” “ we are all doomed” ‘ oh Mary” “ it’s over just kill yourself” ‘ this is worse than worse” “oh god we are fucked” “ I told you this was going to happen” “I have bone spurs”

I’m R44 above with the Trumpy sister who texted to gloat. I just removed her as 25% designated beneficiary on all my investment and bank accounts if I die before her. My partner gets 100% and is instructed to advise her “for reasons which are well known to her.”

Rump ain’t gonna listen to RFK raspy crazy voice for any good length of time

In 1941 Roosevelt wasn't on Hitler's side.

I'm going to plow through all the books on the NY Time's "Best Books Of The Century" list. And unplug my TV.

The democrats had years to pass a national statutory law to protect gay marriage, equality act, and abortion and they choose not to.

R152 in 1941 Roosevelt was on Stalins side. And now in 2025 Trump will be on Putins side,

Stalin was fighting a legitimate war to defend against an invading Nazi Nascent "Empire". USSR became offensive battles when they managed to rally.

[quote] Hopefully, Dems have great success in the midterms and make inroads in both houses. I think we will be in a good position in 2028 with a male candidate like Josh Shapiro or Andy Beshear. The good news is that no Republican nominee will have anywhere near the appeal of Trump. Trump brings out voters like no one else. Latino and black men really like Trump, but it's specific to him.

Shapiro is Jewish. As long as the US has a sizable conservative Christian population, the chances of a Jewish person to be elected POTUS are very slim.

Best bet for 2028 is a white moderate Christian Democrat male. Beshear could be it.

^^^^ Not in 1939 when Stalin made a "secret agreement" to divide Poland with Germany(Hitler)^^^^

That is for R156

Try and get it all out today. Tomorrow move on. Start making plans on what you will do if they start implementing laws about things they will do to any LGBTQ people. If you lose rights, then remember you will eventually get them back. Don't fight it and remember it is a learning experience and think about what you can get out of it and how it can make you a better person. Great people emerged from going thru adversity.

Be careful who you trust. Do not be afraid. This will achieve nothing except to harm you physically. Things are not the same as they have ever been before and there are far more straight people on your side than ever before. Do not attract attention to yourself when outside or with a bunch of strangers. If it gets bad, places like DL will disappear so find those now you can talk to but make sure you can trust them. Remember that nothing lasts forever and eventually this will end too. DO NOT FEAR. It makes you not able to think clearly. It makes you make mistakes. It makes you stick out.

I have been on this board for years. I am an old straight female and I have been here long enough to know that you all have a strength that the rest of us don't have. You had to carry the burden of who you are without being able to share it for a length of time. You had to tell family and friends who you are. You have carried the weight of being ostracized because of who you are. Call on those strengths when need be to get you thru and remember that you have gotten thru using them before. You are never alone no matter how much you think you are.

I don't know about the next 4 years, but I did cancel my WaPo and NY Times digital subscriptions today.

I know that matters only to me and who gives a quark on a quark's ass? but it felt good.

Maybe I’m a fool but I’m not willing to throw in the towel and resign myself to a slice of white bread in a navy suit for the rest of my life. I’m so sad about what we’ll lose as a country by sending Kamala home. I have to believe that a woman or a gay man or a Jew or a Native American could eventually lead.

R160- Beautiful. Thank you-- I am copying and pasting this and emailing to myself--

It means alot-

[quote]The democrats had years to pass a national statutory law to protect gay marriage, equality act, and abortion and they choose not to.

The first of those three items actually did pass.

Not that the Republicans can't simply repeal it now.

When 2027 rolls around and the announcements for the party primaries start flowing in, the Democrats need to get behind moderate candidates from midwestern or southern states. California boys like Gavin Newsom and Eric Swalwell are smug asswipes who have zero chances of winning of a presidential race same with DL fave Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez. She is a smugster who should have been smacked down more by Nancy Pelosi in her early days in Congress.

If this country wasn't so fucking sexist women with military or intelligence backgrounds like Elissa Slotkin or Mikie Sherrill would be terrific female POTUS material. But, it won't happen for them.

[quote] He's just like OJ getting away with murder.

Yeah, OJ got away with murder. But, don't forget that he ended up serving time in a Nevada prison for stealing sports memorabilia. OJ was at least held accountable in criminal court for at least one crime that he committed. Trump is going to get away with everything.

R166 and that is the difference between winners and losers. The winners get away with shit. If the US had lost WW2 many USAF Generals realized they could be tried as war criminals.

But we won the war so it was the losers who went on trial. Losing sucks.

[quote] When 2027 rolls around and the announcements for the party primaries start flowing in, the Democrats need to get behind moderate candidates

Trump and his minions are lifers. No primaries or elections.

What happened to these suburban white women who were supposed to vote for Kamala Harris?

Trump has Ozempic wasting face now. I noticed.

I have done all I can. Donating, volunteering to take voters to polls, attending county meetings, canvassing. I am through. I am 73, so not that many years left . Too old to move to another country, unable to make the change. The decline of culture and this democracy is going to accelerate. I am going to withdraw into my immediate circle of influence. Life goes on.

Trump and Republicans will overstep their mandate and cause a backlash against them. It always happens when one party controls everything.

R172 Normally, I’d agree. But this is a cult. It will never die, unfortunately.

It's like the restraining order on Trump expired and we're all domestic violence victims having to be afraid every moment.

r174

Good analogy, Della.

If you want some scary stuff- Watch Steve Bannon's speech-

I will let you decide for yourself-

I can't watch Steve Bannon. Did he say they're going to go after everyone who didn't support Trump?

R177- Yes-- Please watch. I referenced above- way above- that I stayed subscribed to 2 small channels- This guy is one of them. He is great.

Please. watch it is important and this guy really does a good job describing what is coming.

Well, I just broke down and cried. Didn't happen in 2016. But this time....

I truly do not have the energy, the bandwidth, the strength to do this anymore.

There will be no more "May God protect our troops." They must be traumatized knowing who their next Commander and Chief will be.

I feel numb/dead inside. I suppose it is the shock though.

I just don't care anymore. I'll look out for myself and my cats. That is it.

Couldn't sleep last night. Was literally shaking, teeth chattering. My lil orangey boy was laying at my feet and I just gave him a few rubs and said thank you for being the one bright spot in my life.

R179, me, too.

I’ve started looking at moving to a blue state. I have a friend from Thailand who keeps telling me I should move there when I retire (which is going to be much sooner than I thought).

I’ve been waving her off, telling her I don’t want to leave, but now, yeah, I might have a serious talk about it.

r173, it is a cult that has been alive ever sine the creation of The southern Baptist Church, and the Post War Klan, the John Birch Society and The Heritage Foundation. It is the American malignancy that shifts, adjusts, multiplies and surges when the time is right.

Well, I watched the video and I liked the guy. Yes, it was extremely scary. But it was really not anything I wasn't already aware of. My question is how far are they going to drill down into the layers of Trump haters. Who will they go after first? Biden, Harris, Clinton, Schiff, Liz Cheney and Jack Smith are my guesses. But then what, Biden's cabinet? Other members of congress?

They definitely won't wait to start deporting people and they won't care if you're a citizen or.

CNN & MSNBC have big targets on their backs. Then organizations like the Meidas Touch Network, the Lincoln Project, Mueller, She Wrote network, etc.

How long will it take them to go after those of us who voted for Biden and Harris? I know they say nobody will know how you vote but if you live in a state where you register by party that's a big clue. I don't, but my area is very blue.

So how long have we got before they come after us? And how many of our fellow citizens will they mobilize against us?

R184- I agree with all but going after Blue Voters--

Its going to be Trump's unhinged cabinet that is going to be seeking revenge..

I cannot believe that this is even real..

[quote]If you lose rights, then remember you will eventually get them back. Don't fight it

Well, everyone has to do what they're most comfortable doing. But "don't fight it" sounds like terrible advice to me.

"Reagan won't lift a finger to help gay men dying of AIDS? Don't fight it."

We are not. There will be a massive change in this country that will either get us into WWIII or turn us into a flaming dumpster fire. It will be 50 years before anything will have a chance to change. It will be the dark ages for us.

I can't believe we're having this conversation either.

R187- Watch this- Its chilling.

His name is Bashar and he is a channeler-

Chilling.

Stop with the hocus pocus spamming nonsense. Fools.

Mike Davis, a Republican lawyer whom President-elect Donald Trump reportedly considers a candidate to serve as attorney general in his second administration, celebrated Trump’s election with some pugnacious and even disturbing rhetoric on Wednesday.

“Fuck unity,” declared Davis on X, formerly Twitter. “We have the votes. And they tried to kill Trump.”

In a follow-up post, Davis said the following: “Here’s my current mood: I want to drag their dead political bodies through the streets, burn them, and throw them off the wall. (Legally, politically, and financially, of course.)”

Noxzema, cocktails, Henry Mancini stereo albums, and the Datalounge Annual 1920s Office Xmas Party Guys & Gals Thread. 🥰

Who was the guy in that video supposed to be channeling? Considering what he was saying, the audience laughter was off-putting.

Channeling is where my skepticism really kicks in. Not that I take issue with his words because I think what he said is gonna happen one way or another no matter where they came from.

The U.S. has been very lucky. Maybe it’s all caught up to us. But think of what the rest of the world has had to live through in the 20th century alone. We may still get off pretty lightly by comparison.

"The American Experiment" has issued a finding-

We're fucked.

The Temptations had a big hit with the single "Ball of Confusion".

At one point one of the vocalist shouts, "And the only safe place to live will be on an Indian Reservation!"

Funny, I actually live on an Indian Reservation and all of a sudden, I don't feel safe.