How the fuck are we gonna get through another four years of this?

Datalounge will help us get through it OP. It will be a light to us, when all other lights go out.

i just actually cried tears.

Mary.

How the fuck are we going to live through this?

Mate, not to pile on but it’s going to be longer than that. The American judiciary is going to be FUCKED into oblivion. This is it, this was the turning point. Under fascist rule, the opposing party doesn’t win elections. Look for the reputations of high profile opposition to be ruined by disinformation. There’s going to be a major chilling effect on all aspects of American life.

And they will deliver the hate. That will keep the masses happy, for a while. But it’ll be 15 years before they figure out how hard they’ve been fucked and nobody will really remember what “democracy” was and entire generations will have never experienced it.

This was it. This was the moment. Go read Project 2025. It’s going to be swift not gradual or incremental. That way the courts won’t be able to deal with it.

Deportation of 12M people. My god.

Ugh. I feel so sick right now.

Gay men can have a gallows humor about things. It's those on DL who are not gay men who can't handle their emotions. I had already situated myself to be okay no matter who won and find the humor wherever it may be.

Is this really it? Is there no hope right now? I can't even believe it.

Expect more school shootings, more deaths because of refusal of care for pregnant women, just the worst ever scenario we could even imagine.

It will not be four years.

I want to die.

This is now the rest of our lives. There is no way to right this ship.

I sat down and cried just thinking about the Ukrainian people.. Our beautiful old flawed democracy dead.

I can't think of another 4 years of the fat orange and all the shit he and MuskOx are going to wreak upon our country.

If i didn't have adult children and a dog I love, I'd just check out at this point.

flame away, but I do care about the very few connections I have. what can we do at this point?

This is fucking horrible. How do so many people in our country agree with this maniac???

Fuck. I really can't believe this. Where do we go from here?

[quote]How the fuck are we gonna get through another four years of this?

I didn't know you posted on DL, Melania.

I had mentally prepared myself for this, while at the same time worked my tail-off for the Democratic Party and hoped with sweet hope Americans would reject Trump and Republicans.

I’m devastated and sad, not so much for me, but for younger Americans. I’ve lived a full life and fortunately I didn’t bring a child into this painful world.

i think we need to make a new country, branch off. this is fucking bullshit. i'm sick of living with the people who feel it's okay to live in a dictatorship.

I will smoke copious amounts of pot and masturbate.

[quote]I’m devastated and sad, not so much for me, but for younger Americans. I’ve lived a full life and fortunately I didn’t bring a child into this painful world.

I don't have kids. But, I'm saddened for the children of my friends and relatives. They are going to be in for a world of hurt.

[quote]How the fuck are we gonna get through another four years of this?

By observing his continuing cognitive degeneration magnified by global attention and incredulity.

I don't think Trump will serve a full term. He's in cognitive decline and he's obese. Shit will catch up to him and we will be stuck with Vance who likely be worse than Trump.

That's the worry, r19

It doesn’t matter if you live in a blue state. Bye bye gay marriage. Bye bye abortion. Bye bye anything Trump’s henchmen don’t like. For women and gays it will be like living in Afghanistan.

It's over.

We're over.

This won't be four years.

It's us now.

[quote] Datalounge will help us get through it OP. It will be a light to us, when all other lights go out.

Many of DL's threads helped me get through a lot of shit in my life from 2016-2020 in addition to Trump's first presidency and covid. The last few months of 2016 were shit for me as I lost my job prior to election.. I spent the last couple of months of 2016 house/pet sitting for a friend's parents while they were in another state taking care of an ill parent. I got a job offer in December 2016 for a remote job that I started in January 2017. 2017 was mostly an ok year for me personally. But, my aunt who I was very close to became ill towards the end of the year and passed away in early 2018. 2019 came and two close relatives were diagnosed with cancer. Many things going on politically during those years pissed me off, but the blue wave in 2018 gave me some hope. 2020 was a shit year for everyone. During those years DL brought up some laughs during an awards season and awards shows in addition to many threads I followed.

DL will be our only beacon of light.

I kind of feel like it’s bye bye to my family. We’ve kept a respectful distance the last 4 or 5 months, I know they all voted for Trump again - even my dumb niece who’s trying to start a family through IVF treatments - and I want nothing to do with them.

I have one nephew and two cousins who don’t support Trump. I’ll gladly stick with them and the rest of them can get fucked.

DL was there for me when i lost my job for over a year and a half and i watched Love Boat for 2 months straight during the holiday season.

I'll be there for you. I hope you will be there for me. You've been there for me a good 12 years now.

I'm sorry for all of us, though. I wanted more for us.

What the Fuck did these stupid people in America do?

I’m 63. I wonder if I should claim my social security now. I don’t have a mortgage but I do have some other debt.

They sent us back to the Middle Ages.

The thing is, it’s not just us. It’s the world. The only beacon of democracy now in the world is the EU and that’s wavering.

It’s not going to be a great century.

Maybe this is the end of us. We clearly don't get what humanity is about.

Perhaps we're actually looking at the end.

I don't want to be that person, but we can't get basic human rights inline. It might be the end since we refuse (as the largest economy) to actually care about the planet and its people as a whole.

I could be wrong, but we don't see to be progressing; we're regressing.

I wonder how Zelenskyy will survive. Now, maybe Ukrainians themselves will tell him to take a peace deal with Putin.

Unfortunately, if I were a Ukrainian, I’d be pretty desperate seeing the results of the US election.

[quote] I’m devastated and sad, not so much for me, but for younger Americans.

Too many of them, especially the men, came out for Fascism. Ruin their futures even more. Fuck climate change, keep that house, Don’t hire them.

[quote] I kind of feel like it’s bye bye to my family. We’ve kept a respectful distance the last 4 or 5 months, I know they all voted for Trump again - even my dumb niece who’s trying to start a family through IVF treatments - and I want nothing to do with them.

[quote]I have one nephew and two cousins who don’t support Trump. I’ll gladly stick with them and the rest of them can get fucked

If you want to cut off contact with Trump supporter relatives go for it. I no longer speak to the few Trump supporter relatives. They live in other states which lessens the likelihood of ever seeing them again. I cut off contact with Trump supporters who I have known from high school, college, and past jobs. My mother was a registered Republican (socially liberal Republican) but she never liked Trump and didn't vote for him in 2016 and she became a registered Democrat in 2018 . She voted for Biden in 2020 and Harris this cycle. My father passed away in 2023, but he was a Democrat and he hated Trump. My dad was a Vietnam veteran and in a weird way, I'm sort of glad that he's not here to see Trump in office again. It would have really pissed him off.

Brace yourselves, histrionics

foad r35 (if you're a trumpster)

Well said R3. And on top of everything else you've said - lets not forget that we gays are a major target of Project 2025. We got too uppity for them and now we're going to pay the price.

Wow. So if Twitter is any indication it looks like MAGA is going to gaslight their way through this by stating we have nothing to fear. They don’t think anything bad is going to happen, that the “left-wing” media misrepresented Trump and that he’s really a moderate who wants to unite the country.

At least that’s amusing. The U.S. is going to be like China.

Perhaps it's time for a civil war. we're all lazy, but this is really a good time to rally and decides we've FUCKING HAD IT ALREADY.

we did it in the past. when else could it be time to do it again but now? am i crazy? maybe. but you know what? it's time to put up or shut up.

They also don’t see the federal abortion ban coming and obviously know nothing about the impact of Dobbs on women.

I think a lot of the issues in this election were things people didn’t want to think about or confront so it was easy for them to ignore it and were probably tuned out altogether.

It’s almost funny to think how the union guys who voted for Trump just voted away any overtime pay they may have counted on. Because they won’t be getting overtime pay anymore thanks to Project 2025.

[quote]I wonder how Zelenskyy will survive. Now, maybe Ukrainians themselves will tell him to take a peace deal with Putin.

There will be peace negotiations as there are with any war. It's always a question of when.

Peace negotiations R41? Russia INVADED a sovereign country. What the fuck are you talking about. Peace negotiations would be Russia withdrawing from Ukraine and handing their land back.

My Trumpy sister in Ohio and me texting back and forth this morning.

[quote]Trump won! I'm happy, all candidates I voted for won. :)

[quote]I didn't vote for him. But enjoy. I just hope we have social security in 10 years.

[quote]I feel we will. I hope Trump gets the illegal aliens out so the money and benefits going to them gets funneled back to Social Security.

[quote]Let's not talk about politics. I never did with you guys when my preferred candidates won.

Fortunately her next text switched the subject to her cats. Otherwise it’s grey rock up to punch and delete. But get ready for unsolicited taunting.

I am on assistance and am worried about losing my benefits, Michigan is now all Repug. So sad and scary.

I'm worried about losing my healthcare.

[quote] It’s almost funny to think how the union guys who voted for Trump just voted away any overtime pay they may have counted on. Because they won’t be getting overtime pay anymore thanks to Project 2025

They will have meltdowns when there is no overtime pay.

When the 2025 holiday season arrives, the Teamsters who are UPS drivers and voted for Trump will bitching all over social media.

That’s okay, R47. They can be replaced by less skilled, lower paid workers. We plan on doing away with all regulatory hurdles on this.

Hey Trump voters — enjoy paying thousands of dollars for insulin, no copay free preventive tests, the return of preexisting conditions, no more student loan forgiveness, oh and most of all — if you’re straight no birth control because it WILL be banned. It’s beginning to look a lot like Christmas!

Some of female Trump voters who are married to martial cheaters might be pissed when their husbands' mistresses get pregnant and start hitting up their men for money to travel out of state for abortions.

Exactly, R50. And I just know my 59 year-old brother - who already had some of his toes amputated this year due to his diabetes and had three major surgeries to repair and re-route the vascularity in both his legs - I just know he voted for Trump. Good luck on those insulin prices and Medicaid, dummy!

He’ll they might even roll back gay marriage. There will be censorship of the press. Even sites like this one will be looked down upon by the right, and potentially shut down.

[quote]Hell they might even roll back gay marriage.

They have promised to do exactly that R53. AFTER they have removed all federal protections and anti-discrimination laws for gay people.

[quote] Gay men can have a gallows humor about things.

Maybe the older gay men, for whom HIV was a death sentence, and who witnessed the deaths of countless talented peers. Not sure about the younger generation.

Well, as older gay men, we never had any of these things anyway. So maybe we’ll cope better? It’s still heartbreaking.

r1, honestly, this is true. to be able to bitch about stuff like this here keeps my sanity

Looongtime lurker, first time poster here. I actually found this site around early 2020 while doing a google search for something related to the Golden Girls, and of course ended up here, and I was hooked. You guys got me through the 2020 election during those nerve-wracking days until it was finally called for Biden. My hope was that I could make my first post celebrating Kamala’s victory. Instead, my first post is to say how gutted I am. I thought I had mentally prepared myself for this outcome, but given my disbelief, rage, devastation, and complete shock, clearly I was deluding myself. Unfortunately, I don’t have much of a support system to lean on, and, even more unfortunately, most of my family are trumpers, so I’m feeling pretty alone. I guess one of my ways of coping with this complete tragedy is this site so I don’t feel so alone. That, and copious amounts of alcohol and xanax. Just want to say thank you for being here.

[quote] most of my family are trumpers, so I’m feeling pretty alone

You could certainly find something to talk about with them at the moment.

Sorry you are feeling alone, R58. Online spaces can be a good way to find community.

I’m sure quite a few people will opt for some Golden Girls comfort TV and nostalgia for a saner time over the next few years.

Hugs to you R58. Glad you posted. You're obviously thoughtful and articulate. Post more please! Don't be shy.

Perhaps Canada? Or Norway?

Thank you, R60 and R61. R60, thanks for the advice, I just put on GG on Hulu. I’m in a fog of despair right now and hopefully, they can provide some laughs. R59, as angry as I am with them, and I’m utterly furious, it wouldn’t be wise to have a discussion with them about this. After the 2016 election, I was so angry with them that I refused to speak with them for a long time, and we eventually reconciled. Then my sister passed away unexpectedly a few years ago, which left me completely devastated, and I’m still devastated. The thought of (figuratively) losing more family members is too much to take. For years, I have tried to convince them that they are supporting evil people who have horrible, hurtful policies, but nothing gets through, so at this point, we have an unspoken moratorium on political discussions (though we’ll see if that holds for Thanksgiving). I try to console myself with the fact that we live in a blue state so their votes don’t really matter. Additionally, my mother is pretty elderly, and I always wonder if the last time I speak with or see her will be my last, and I wouldn’t be able to handle the guilt if the last thing I said was that I can’t forgive her for supporting trump.

Lastly, I think I upvoted my own comment several times, thinking it was replying? Please forgive me while I figure out how to work this site.

R28 I wish I could. I'm only 60 though. Too young?

Sorry for being blunt in this post. Spoiler alert: you won't like what I'm about to say and if you're feeling particularly fragile this morning, which is understandable, you might want to move to the next post.

For me, I’m going when my subscription expires on the 21st. DL is too stubborn about what needs doing to be of any comfort in the next four years. I can just about stand the futile whining and complaining about what will happen, but the adamant refusal DL's hard to left to compromise is too much for anyone capable of critical thought to bear. Too many of you are as bad as the people you hate, you’re just blinded by your righteous progressivism, rather than a dead myth of the greatest nation on earth.

Any time anybody challenged you on your myth of greatness arrogance even DLers reverted instantly to the MAGA within. You wanted all the rights of being the world's biggest in so many things, but none of the responsibilities. You wanted nothing to do with humility, humanity, modesty or the shared. Easy qualities to mock, and do you ever. How many other nations have you mocked, most of which rank higher in quality of life than yours? American ignorance has fucked the whole world. It breaks my heart, for you guys and for everyone else. I'm sorry to kick you when you're down but you took us down too. I am sorry for you. And furious with you.

We.are.all.fucked. I hope you don't suffer too much in the future, which I fear won't just be four years. I don't know what's going to happen but I fear it, for you all and everybody. I am genuinely sorry for you, despite my anger. I cannot believe your country has done this.

Here is what I did-- I unsubscribed to every fucking PSYCHIC I subscribed to on Youtube-every one of them was WRONG AS FUCK, I have now ditched EVERY political channel minus 2 small ones with two guys that really grew to like.. The political world will not exist to me minus what I read here. There will be no more clicking on links to ANY channel/news source. I ditched my NYT subscription today.

This is not just 4 years- what we have done in this country is FOREVER...

I am dreading the tax implications that will hit us all in 2-3 years- I can barely make it as it is... And that's if I even have a job.

I am going to enjoy the holidays and watch films and LET THIS COUNTRY go---

I will be choosing friends more wisely and cutting out anyone who had anything to do with this dictator.

If I was watching the channels I watched every day NOW I would kill myself within 3 months.

I'm crying too, but its like mourning anyone- you adjust.

There will be some kind of revolt. Not just women this time. The late night comics will have material for four years - if Trump makes it that far, lol. All my family members who told me 'I understand your concerns, but nothing BAD happened the first time HE won' just don't get it. Their beloved grandsons will end up fighting stupid wars.

R67- I don't see any revolts. I see him dying, and we will be even worse off with Vance-

One thing I will not block out is the implementation of Project 2025-- I will deal with that as it comes....

I hate this - the weather this morning in New England is BEAUTIFUL.. It reminds me of 9/11 in many, many ways

Shit feels creepy. Just creepy

Sadly- these anti Trump channels like Meidas and Cohen will make BANK-- off of the next 4 years, while having TONS of material-- That is why I ditched them all last night and this morning.. They will not be making money off of me as the world implodes. I dont want or need any more information from them. It accomplishes nothing. I kept Glenn Kershner (sp) he was one of 2... I like him and he doesn't need the Youtube channel.

[quote]I unsubscribed to every fucking PSYCHIC I subscribed to on Youtube

Are you being facetious? I sincerely hope you are.

Just try to enjoy what you can

I'm just trying to look on the bright side in all this. Time flies and hoping 4 years will feel just that. And then, Trump and his MAGA cult this will just be an unpleasant memory forever, fingers crossed.

I love that Marianne lady from Australia because this place recommended her. She is the only psychic I kept my subscription to.. I sound like an airhead, but she is SO pro democracy and just a good person. She must be very upset this AM.. I am afraid to check her out. I am actually scared to death of Youtube at this moment and just cannot check it out.

There a few evil fucks from work who I HATE to begin with, at this moment one chick from TX is DEAD to me. This bitch is just vile from a human standpoint. So I am trying to erase the hatred in my heart. I can literally feel it in my heart and stomach.

Its just not good-

Last thing- I watched this lovely white haired lady going from door to door yesterday- She had to be 75- I know she was canvassing for Kamala. I cannot get her out of my head. She exuded kindness. She LIVED through all of these years- For some reason that is haunting me this AM. Actually-" crying as I type." LOL

Bad bad times my friends.. Just bad times..

R70- No- There were some cool ones with 100K followers that I did watch- like 5? Cash Peters was one...

I know I sound like an airhead. It doesnt matter now.

I follow one astrologer who predicted a Trump win and not because he’s a fan

FOUR YEARS -you wish. You must be a Trumper.

He's just like OJ getting away with murder.

[quote]Here is what I did-- I unsubscribed to every fucking PSYCHIC I subscribed to on Youtube-every one of them was WRONG AS FUCK.

I understand your pain, R66, but you genuinely made me laugh for a minute.

Thank you, DL. Everyone I know is just hiding out in kitten videos.

Trump and Covid returning at the same time with RFK jr BANNING vaccinations.

Welp, I am hopeful he won't make it 4 years.

Yeah, but Vance will be fucking worse.

He is white male entitlement falling upwards.

I hate him. I hope he chokes on Thiel’s rotten cocklet.

Aside from the policies, I don't want to continue to live in a population that's this divisive — and it's going to get worse. I live in a rural area (near a college) and these fucking Trump flags will never come down. I'm going to have to continue to stare at them every day. It's a cult. The resistance has some deep thinking to do. It also matters how Biden closes out his presidency.

R81, given his obvious physical and mental decline, I’d be surprised if he makes it a full year into his term, but that leaves us with President Vance, which would probably be an even nastier shitshow.

This can't be fixed. A majority of voters in this country support a man who made no secret of his immorality, inhumanity, contempt for the vulnerable, incoherent references, his egotism and arrogance off the charts.

Maybe it has to get very bad before it gets better but I'm not holding my breath. When Bush was elected for the second time I did what so many said they will do, I left the country. It had the desired effect and I was happy. No one was interested in the U.S. because they know there's nothing they can do about us.

But now, there's nowhere to go. The autocrats are everywhere and I'm old. I do live in California so that will have to be good enough, but the moral squalor is here, too. Sometimes when I pass all the churches in this town I'm wistful that I don't believe. And Jesus wept.

And the fact that Trump is so physically repulsive just adds another layer of grime over the future of this country.

R7 if that, then we get Vance .....

I really think unsubscribing to all psychics is the answer.

R83, this may not be too helpful, but is it possible to just not look at all the signs/flags? I live in a blue state, and this year there were far fewer trump signs than in 2016 and 2020. There were also many more Harris signs than there were for Biden, which I thought was an optimistic portent, which shows how wring I was. Anyway, once I became familiar with the houses that had trump signs, I’d drive by without even looking at them. I feel like actively ignoring them actually helped me not be so angry, though it may not help so much now that he won. Just a suggestion. Good luck, friend.

[quote] I really think unsubscribing to all psychics is the answer.

The Bible forbids divination and soothsaying. Just saying.

Unless there is another once in a century pandemic, every day will be a pure Trump day.

Just need to make sure Fox/OAN/Newsmax cover it all.

Hopefully, Dems have great success in the midterms and make inroads in both houses. I think we will be in a good position in 2028 with a male candidate like Josh Shapiro or Andy Beshear. The good news is that no Republican nominee will have anywhere near the appeal of Trump. Trump brings out voters like no one else. Latino and black men really like Trump, but it's specific to him.

I think you may be understating the fact a lot of men from unlikely backgrounds have been converted to thinking of themselves as Republican voters. Agree a more conventional candidate is probably a good thing, but it's got to be about the ideas.

[quote] There will be some kind of revolt.

There was a revolt, a revolt by the working class against the elites.

[quote]There was a revolt, a revolt by the working class against the elites.

The trolls have not gone home.

[quote] I think you may be understating the fact a lot of men from unlikely backgrounds have been converted to thinking of themselves as Republican voters.

Especially young men. I’m seeing a lot of videos today of young men basically coming out of the political closet, saying they have been hiding their views on campus but now cheering Trump’s win.

Whenever one party controls everything, it can only do downhill from there. They get the blame for every bad thing that happens. The public loves to build them up and then tear them down. If the economy goes south, Dems will rise to power again. It's always about the economy.

That assumes elections after the election.

So they overwhelmingly vote for the guy who inherited millions from his dad and who shits in a gold toilet. An anti-union loser who stiffs his workers and is funded by billionaires. TAKE THAT, ELITES!!

Hey Michigan, kiss all those Union jobs goodbye when Trump disband unions...and takes their cash...

Get angry. His last term brought about the #metoo movement. He's going to get in the same trouble as last time. He's a sociopath who lies, bullies and cheats. They'll be at least one impeachment attempt.

This is all about Trump, who is unfortunately very charismatic and a great retail politician. Just as it was all about Clinton and Obama as charismatic figures. There will be no lasting political shift. There never is. In 4 years, voters will be on to the next political star.

Trump won over first time voters by 9%

Repeat after me...Stolen Election!

Hey, it worked for them.

r38 I have made my twitter account private and unintalled the app of my mobile phone. Want to keep my options open incase things improve in the future so I haven't deactivmy account....yet. I barely tweet nowadays. Very rarely but I go on daily and observe. But I have increasingly enjoyed the twitter experience less and less since Musk took over and his astroturfing via playing with the algorithm so you are bombarded with tweets promoting his ideas and politics is way too much. Twitter is now like a sewer of extremism and quarrels. Very heated . I know if I kept the app on my phone the temptation to look at it every day and end up in a bad mood, pissed off and angry , depressed and heightened blood pressure is just too much. Other people I know who have quit twitter say it has been a real boost to their wellbeing and mental health. I'm only on day one but I'm going to stick with my plan. Viewer active issrs, less engagement will hit gobshite Musks bottom line if that's any comfort. Things are not going to improve on twitter anytime soon if ever and I believe it will end up financially fucked. It is now a tool for evil and I think leaving the platform is something many of us should consider.

[quote]I am on assistance and am worried about losing my benefits, Michigan is now all Repug. So sad and scary.

Michigan still has a Democratic governor, secretary of state and attorney general, and it grew the Democratic majority on its state supreme court yesterday. The battle for U.S. senator is yet be decided.

I understand feeling dejected, but let's keep some perspective.

We’ve all been living in fools paradise. To reward this criminal with a second and possibly endless presidency will prove to be the American Holocaust with Europe going to Putin.

Will Trump pull us out of NATO? He wanted to do it before, now with Defense Secretary Mike Flynn he'll do it. I'm sorry Europe, we failed you.

[quote]How the fuck are we gonna get through another four years of this?

With cavities, measles and polio, apparently.

Can we still get a smallpox vaccine anywhere? Yes, I’m serious.

I had one as a kid, but it’s going to make a comeback and I want to get one before they’re banned.

Not even a flu shot?

Yodeling with America's Sweetheart Susan Richardson!

Old TV show clips and escapism will help me get through this.

Europe are going to have to pull themselves together. The days of the U.S. being “too big to fail” as a democratic ally are OVER - and hopefully they’ve been planning for it. The U.S. is no longer a trusted ally and I’m sure this will be reflected in every relationship with a foreign power. There will be a complete alignment in the works order.

I’m casting around for something absorbing enough that escapism will work for me, too, R112.

If I can’t find anything I’m just going to nap all the time.

*re-alignment in the world order.

Is there a betting market open yet for how long before Trump dies?

[quote]Not even a flu shot?

You'll likely be able to get a flu shot (and other vaccines), but you'll have to pay out of pocket for it.

Far fewer people will get them as a result, making them less profitable for their manufacturers, who will eventually just stop making them.

I'd like to see Jack Smith slam, this week, everyone involved, everyone in the House and the Senate, with indictments. Sure they'll get pardoned and the indictments will go nowhere, but everyone will learn exactly what they did, exactly who trump sold national security secrets to, and the full truth about every single criminal and illegal thing that trump did..

I want that, and a unicorn.

R66 -- I did the exact same thing. The ones I thought were the most reliable were Cash and Maryann but this time they couldn't have been more wrong. Neither one of them have posted today and Cash usually posts on Wednesdays.

I saw that Dianne's Tarot posted an "update" so I watched it and it was downright comical how she blamed her viewers for believing her predictions and denied she'd predicted anything. "You heard what you wanted to hear." No, lady, you told people what they wanted to hear. Then she disabled the comments on a bunch of her posts where she had predicted things.

And for those who want to scold me for watching readers and so-called psychics, save it. It's something I've done since Trump's first go round and it helped sooth me even though I (mostly) didn't take it seriously.

R66 and R199, I did the same thing! And guess where I first learned about any of these YT psychics? That's right - right here on DL. If it weren't for DL, I would have never heard of any of them.

Well, their loss is YT animal videos' gain. Not that I don't already watch a shit ton of those!

WHEN DO THE TEARS STOP??

[quote]I'd like to see Jack Smith slam, this week, everyone involved, everyone in the House and the Senate, with indictments

He will pardon all of the insurrectionists of Jan 6 too

Sweetie..it won't be just four years..

Trump will never leave now, unless he passes away or Jaydine gets rid of him via the 25th Amendment.

And then that fat faced couch fucker will NEVER leave.

I have a little more empathy for the "apolitical" Russians now (not the ones who actively support Putin or the war, obviously). You get to a point where you simply feel powerless and you have to detach to preserve your mental health.

If the stock market responds as well as it did today, I’ll go to my happy place, reviewing my 401k balance.

[quote] Is there a betting market open yet for how long before Trump dies?

I don't think he will die anytime . But, we all know he's not in great health and has been looking shit lately. My prediction is that he will suffer a stroke that will leave him unable to talk and he will be wheelchair bound. JD will get rid him of via the 25th amendment.

I had a great aunt who verbally and physically abused her kids and other relatives. Most of her kids hated her. Only 2 (the youngest two) of her 8 kids kept in regular contact or visited regularly after they moved out of her house. When my great aunt was 74 she suffered a stroke, but her speech wasn't effected. She was overweight and didn't do well in rehab. She spent the last ten years of her life in a wheelchair and mostly homebound. My mom said living in a disabled body was karma for how my great aunt treated her kids and other relatives.

[quote]JD will get rid him of via the 25th amendment.

Usha will make a lovely First Lady. Can't wait to see her Vogue cover.

R118, I think the plan Jack Smith has - and has probably already prepared - are full, unredacted reports on both investigations with all the evidence to be released before Trump takes office with Garland’s sign off.

It’s the most he can do.

They don’t need the 25th amendment! They just need an open window! They’re not going to bother with anything constitutional. Then there’s no separation between them and Trump, they can be all like, “We’re carrying on his legacy!”

We’re in Russia now, not the U.S. That’s how they do things. And it’s going to be swift. Remember how the first 7 months of W’s administration was so quiet, nothing happened except there was that Chinese aircraft or whatever parked on a runway somewhere? And W went home to TX every weekend to rake leaves and the whole administration was up to nothing and then - BAM! 9/11 happened and they swung into action immediately with all these plans, 1,000s of pages of security legislation, etc.? It’s going to be like that only a lot sooner. I bet we won’t even see much of Trump. They’ll confiscate his phone, keep him behind closed doors, he’ll be allowed to make an appearance but no chopper talk, just from a distance and then - BAM! “We’re sorry to report Trump died today. Meet your new President - JD Vance.”

I give it 4 months.

Because the problem for Trump is that he wants to be liked. As they implement Project 2025 he won’t be fully impervious to criticisms and will try to soften the delivery. That’s why they’re going to remove him. They got what they wanted. They have a fully compliant, completely immoral VP in place who is ready to be rewarded with riches. They won’t need Trump getting in the way, fucking things up.

When Trump goes, that’s when we’ll know we’re really fucked.

Is Donnie going to get his tank parade?

R120 and R199--

That Linda Comanche Psychic is completely embarrassed-- YOU BITCHES recommended her too, so like. good little boy I followed DL's impeccable taste! I actually felt bad for her, and she came across like, well, a fraudster- She said she has already lost 500 subscribers, and I was like, SHIT that's right, I need to ditch you too. So I unsubscribed.

I am sticking with Mary Ann/Revealing Light because she is not a sheister and is truly a good lady.. She is going to be taking this very, very hard-

I read my posts about the psychic shit and I DO sound like a loon! But DL MADE ME!!!

Its all over folks. Time to appreciate the LITTLE things. Wine, a nice sweater... a warm breeze... Sunshine... A sunny January morning when the sun shines on the snow and the air is so crisp and filled with promise. I think this is the shit that we will take with us. This world does not seem so kind anymore and I dont think that anything will matter as much to lose going forward.

You all truly are some of the smartest and FUNNY people alive. I try to be "funny" all the time here sometimes it works and sometimes it bombs.. and sometimes I will be trolly just to read your nasty responses. You make me happy. My attempt at a Liza (Lizcha) thread was an out an out disaster. But just reading "How pathetic" makes me so happy.

I am at a loss and blogging at this point. I keep seeing all of those women at Howard University in my mind.. Its humbling. The thought of them makes my face flush. I am humbled and humiliated. I knew on 9/11 when I was 21 that the world was far crueler than I knew. And now I know this for sure.

r133 Because of the recent assassination attempts we are all focused on Trump being at risk of being taken out by a gunman etc but it's also possible that some one concerned at what kind of President Jd Vance would make might actually attempt to take him out instead? He could be equally at risk. I'm not condoning it but someone politically savvy who is a bit psycho/ unhinged and opposed to project 25 could go down that road seeing Vance as the bigger threat.

I’ll just repeat what I said to a friend the day after the 2016 election: “We better not have a crisis!” (Unfortunately we did have a crisis.)

Can Dark Brandon at least leave us some lovely parting gifts?

I feel relatively confident he won't last 4 years. I seriously doubt he'll last 2 years considering how seriously mentally impaired he already is.

So, r139?

Listen, JD Vance hates Trump's guts. If Trump dies or is taken out of office Vance will likely soften his stance considerably.

r141 What happens if the vice President dies in the US system? Does the President pick a new VP or does it can to the next in line ie the house speaker?

LMFAO, r141!

You sweet, naive summer child!

You realize who is behind Vance, right? That cunt Musk, Thiel, crypto scammers - if you think that couch fucking asshole will “soften” anything, you need to read project 2025.

Vance is ALL IN on that shit. He wrote the forward to it. The only thing that will get “soft” is the stock market, housing market, the bond market and the entire US economy.

I cannot watch Kamala's concession speech- I will kill myself-

One day, I will watch it- maybe on Christmas Eve to remind myself of the good in the world-

Current Stage of Grief: Ready to sit back and watch the people who voted for him enjoy Project 2025

Vance is a Christian Nationalist, tech fascist cunt. He is pure evil and believes in race science and hates democracy. He Musk, Thiel and others want to devalue the dollar and make billions on crypto.

America is toast.

I won’t be surprised if RFK Jr finds himself sidelined. He was a useful idiot for Trump and he can be cast aside.

I'm R119. There is no R199 yet. I just watched LindaG's latest out of curiosity. I've long thought she was full of it but she was also entertaining so I still watched her sometimes. She was very remorseful and she didn't scold her viewers.

The one who get more things wrong than all the rest of them put together ( I started making note of things he would predict and his record was abysmal) is Sterling.

Maryann does get things right. She predicted months ago that more would come out about Epstein and Trump right before the election and it did. But naturally it didn't go anywhere. She said in her latest more still would come out but...unfortunately she neglected to say it doesn't matter one bit because he has immunity now. Oh, I'm sure she'll be mortified, too. But when these people have ONE JOB and they get it 100% wrong...

From the DL Archives December 8th 1941

“ it’s over” “ surrender now” “ can I move to Canada” “ we are all doomed” ‘ oh Mary” “ it’s over just kill yourself” ‘ this is worse than worse” “oh god we are fucked” “ I told you this was going to happen” “I have bone spurs”

I’m R44 above with the Trumpy sister who texted to gloat. I just removed her as 25% designated beneficiary on all my investment and bank accounts if I die before her. My partner gets 100% and is instructed to advise her “for reasons which are well known to her.”

Rump ain’t gonna listen to RFK raspy crazy voice for any good length of time

In 1941 Roosevelt wasn't on Hitler's side.

I'm going to plow through all the books on the NY Time's "Best Books Of The Century" list. And unplug my TV.

The democrats had years to pass a national statutory law to protect gay marriage, equality act, and abortion and they choose not to.

R152 in 1941 Roosevelt was on Stalins side. And now in 2025 Trump will be on Putins side,

Stalin was fighting a legitimate war to defend against an invading Nazi Nascent "Empire". USSR became offensive battles when they managed to rally.

[quote] Hopefully, Dems have great success in the midterms and make inroads in both houses. I think we will be in a good position in 2028 with a male candidate like Josh Shapiro or Andy Beshear. The good news is that no Republican nominee will have anywhere near the appeal of Trump. Trump brings out voters like no one else. Latino and black men really like Trump, but it's specific to him.

Shapiro is Jewish. As long as the US has a sizable conservative Christian population, the chances of a Jewish person to be elected POTUS are very slim.

Best bet for 2028 is a white moderate Christian Democrat male. Beshear could be it.

^^^^ Not in 1939 when Stalin made a "secret agreement" to divide Poland with Germany(Hitler)^^^^

That is for R156

Try and get it all out today. Tomorrow move on. Start making plans on what you will do if they start implementing laws about things they will do to any LGBTQ people. If you lose rights, then remember you will eventually get them back. Don't fight it and remember it is a learning experience and think about what you can get out of it and how it can make you a better person. Great people emerged from going thru adversity.

Be careful who you trust. Do not be afraid. This will achieve nothing except to harm you physically. Things are not the same as they have ever been before and there are far more straight people on your side than ever before. Do not attract attention to yourself when outside or with a bunch of strangers. If it gets bad, places like DL will disappear so find those now you can talk to but make sure you can trust them. Remember that nothing lasts forever and eventually this will end too. DO NOT FEAR. It makes you not able to think clearly. It makes you make mistakes. It makes you stick out.

I have been on this board for years. I am an old straight female and I have been here long enough to know that you all have a strength that the rest of us don't have. You had to carry the burden of who you are without being able to share it for a length of time. You had to tell family and friends who you are. You have carried the weight of being ostracized because of who you are. Call on those strengths when need be to get you thru and remember that you have gotten thru using them before. You are never alone no matter how much you think you are.

I don't know about the next 4 years, but I did cancel my WaPo and NY Times digital subscriptions today.

I know that matters only to me and who gives a quark on a quark's ass? but it felt good.

Maybe I’m a fool but I’m not willing to throw in the towel and resign myself to a slice of white bread in a navy suit for the rest of my life. I’m so sad about what we’ll lose as a country by sending Kamala home. I have to believe that a woman or a gay man or a Jew or a Native American could eventually lead.

R160- Beautiful. Thank you-- I am copying and pasting this and emailing to myself--

It means alot-

[quote]The democrats had years to pass a national statutory law to protect gay marriage, equality act, and abortion and they choose not to.

The first of those three items actually did pass.

Not that the Republicans can't simply repeal it now.

When 2027 rolls around and the announcements for the party primaries start flowing in, the Democrats need to get behind moderate candidates from midwestern or southern states. California boys like Gavin Newsom and Eric Swalwell are smug asswipes who have zero chances of winning of a presidential race same with DL fave Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez. She is a smugster who should have been smacked down more by Nancy Pelosi in her early days in Congress.

If this country wasn't so fucking sexist women with military or intelligence backgrounds like Elissa Slotkin or Mikie Sherrill would be terrific female POTUS material. But, it won't happen for them.

[quote] He's just like OJ getting away with murder.

Yeah, OJ got away with murder. But, don't forget that he ended up serving time in a Nevada prison for stealing sports memorabilia. OJ was at least held accountable in criminal court for at least one crime that he committed. Trump is going to get away with everything.

R166 and that is the difference between winners and losers. The winners get away with shit. If the US had lost WW2 many USAF Generals realized they could be tried as war criminals.

But we won the war so it was the losers who went on trial. Losing sucks.

[quote] When 2027 rolls around and the announcements for the party primaries start flowing in, the Democrats need to get behind moderate candidates

Trump and his minions are lifers. No primaries or elections.

What happened to these suburban white women who were supposed to vote for Kamala Harris?

Trump has Ozempic wasting face now. I noticed.

I have done all I can. Donating, volunteering to take voters to polls, attending county meetings, canvassing. I am through. I am 73, so not that many years left . Too old to move to another country, unable to make the change. The decline of culture and this democracy is going to accelerate. I am going to withdraw into my immediate circle of influence. Life goes on.

Trump and Republicans will overstep their mandate and cause a backlash against them. It always happens when one party controls everything.

R172 Normally, I’d agree. But this is a cult. It will never die, unfortunately.

It's like the restraining order on Trump expired and we're all domestic violence victims having to be afraid every moment.

r174

Good analogy, Della.

If you want some scary stuff- Watch Steve Bannon's speech-

I will let you decide for yourself-

I can't watch Steve Bannon. Did he say they're going to go after everyone who didn't support Trump?

R177- Yes-- Please watch. I referenced above- way above- that I stayed subscribed to 2 small channels- This guy is one of them. He is great.

Please. watch it is important and this guy really does a good job describing what is coming.

Well, I just broke down and cried. Didn't happen in 2016. But this time....

I truly do not have the energy, the bandwidth, the strength to do this anymore.

There will be no more "May God protect our troops." They must be traumatized knowing who their next Commander and Chief will be.

I feel numb/dead inside. I suppose it is the shock though.

I just don't care anymore. I'll look out for myself and my cats. That is it.

Couldn't sleep last night. Was literally shaking, teeth chattering. My lil orangey boy was laying at my feet and I just gave him a few rubs and said thank you for being the one bright spot in my life.

R179, me, too.

I’ve started looking at moving to a blue state. I have a friend from Thailand who keeps telling me I should move there when I retire (which is going to be much sooner than I thought).

I’ve been waving her off, telling her I don’t want to leave, but now, yeah, I might have a serious talk about it.

r173, it is a cult that has been alive ever sine the creation of The southern Baptist Church, and the Post War Klan, the John Birch Society and The Heritage Foundation. It is the American malignancy that shifts, adjusts, multiplies and surges when the time is right.

Well, I watched the video and I liked the guy. Yes, it was extremely scary. But it was really not anything I wasn't already aware of. My question is how far are they going to drill down into the layers of Trump haters. Who will they go after first? Biden, Harris, Clinton, Schiff, Liz Cheney and Jack Smith are my guesses. But then what, Biden's cabinet? Other members of congress?

They definitely won't wait to start deporting people and they won't care if you're a citizen or.

CNN & MSNBC have big targets on their backs. Then organizations like the Meidas Touch Network, the Lincoln Project, Mueller, She Wrote network, etc.

How long will it take them to go after those of us who voted for Biden and Harris? I know they say nobody will know how you vote but if you live in a state where you register by party that's a big clue. I don't, but my area is very blue.

So how long have we got before they come after us? And how many of our fellow citizens will they mobilize against us?

R184- I agree with all but going after Blue Voters--

Its going to be Trump's unhinged cabinet that is going to be seeking revenge..

I cannot believe that this is even real..

[quote]If you lose rights, then remember you will eventually get them back. Don't fight it

Well, everyone has to do what they're most comfortable doing. But "don't fight it" sounds like terrible advice to me.

"Reagan won't lift a finger to help gay men dying of AIDS? Don't fight it."

We are not. There will be a massive change in this country that will either get us into WWIII or turn us into a flaming dumpster fire. It will be 50 years before anything will have a chance to change. It will be the dark ages for us.

I can't believe we're having this conversation either.

R187- Watch this- Its chilling.

His name is Bashar and he is a channeler-

Chilling.

Stop with the hocus pocus spamming nonsense. Fools.

Mike Davis, a Republican lawyer whom President-elect Donald Trump reportedly considers a candidate to serve as attorney general in his second administration, celebrated Trump’s election with some pugnacious and even disturbing rhetoric on Wednesday.

“Fuck unity,” declared Davis on X, formerly Twitter. “We have the votes. And they tried to kill Trump.”

In a follow-up post, Davis said the following: “Here’s my current mood: I want to drag their dead political bodies through the streets, burn them, and throw them off the wall. (Legally, politically, and financially, of course.)”

Noxzema, cocktails, Henry Mancini stereo albums, and the Datalounge Annual 1920s Office Xmas Party Guys & Gals Thread. 🥰

Who was the guy in that video supposed to be channeling? Considering what he was saying, the audience laughter was off-putting.

Channeling is where my skepticism really kicks in. Not that I take issue with his words because I think what he said is gonna happen one way or another no matter where they came from.

The U.S. has been very lucky. Maybe it’s all caught up to us. But think of what the rest of the world has had to live through in the 20th century alone. We may still get off pretty lightly by comparison.

"The American Experiment" has issued a finding-

We're fucked.

The Temptations had a big hit with the single "Ball of Confusion".

At one point one of the vocalist shouts, "And the only safe place to live will be on an Indian Reservation!"

Funny, I actually live on an Indian Reservation and all of a sudden, I don't feel safe.

It makes me doubt the existence of God. Yeah yeah I know. Not the God of conservative evangelicals but a God of goodness who may stand by and let humans fuck it up but is still waiting kindly for us to get it right. There is now something like a Wishmaster letting Trump and his ilk get whatever they want. We’re going backwards now.

[quote]When 2027 rolls around and the announcements for the party primaries start flowing in, the Democrats need to get behind moderate candidates from midwestern or southern states

The moderate, cozying up to Republicans is why we're in this mess. Kamala's approval ratings took a nosedive AFTER she started praising the Cheney's and talking about wanting to put a Republican in her cabinet. The lines got very blurred between Democrats and Republicans, and it gave red meat to the "uniparty" line. It was a HUGE mistake.

Trump has gotten as far as he has and has such a slavish devotion because his rabid, crazy supporters truly believe is an outsider to the two party system. I can't explain it, but that's the reason why he keeps maintaining such a HUGE, devoted fanbase. He's not one of "them".

Democrats would be wise to finally stop seeking approval from across the aisle and stick to the core principles of the party.

Agreed, r197.

Rethugs gonna rethug so stop trying to appease them and simply cunt punt them instead.

This country will be unrecognizable about six months.

Just invest in a S&P 500 index fund and join the game. It’s the only option.

I'm going to get through this by not giving a shit about anything or anyone that doesn't directly affect me.

Abuela got deported back to Mexico? Oh well.

Your job was eliminated so the oligarch owner can buy a new yacht? Too bad.

Your teenaged daughter got knocked and can't get an abortion? That's a shame.

You broke it, you buy it.

Kamala was killing it in the polls when she she first received the nomination. Her speech at the DNC was off putting in parts 'unleash lethal power' etc. Then she cozied up to the Republicans and not just any Republican but Liz Cheney. She alienated the base to chase nonexistent GOP voters who were ALWAYS going to vote for Trump. The insurrection should have been a dealbreaker for these folks but they have no conscience.

Also - couldn't she have had an Israeli who had lost a family member along with a Palestinian who had lost a family member at the DNC? The messaging on Gaza was horrible.

She also needed to separate herself from Biden. If she had just said " I respect Joe Biden but I disagree with his Humanitarian Parole Program she would have taken a lot of sting out of the immigrant argument,

I am horrified that Harris didn't win. MAGA are lying, despicable, sociopaths and they are also the de facto GOP now. I think that the Democrats need to learn to bring more than a feather to a knife fight.

CNN is about to do something on Musk. I turned the volume off. I am pulling back on media. I don't want to know how the sausage is made. Don't care about the transition, the Cabinet, won't watch the Inauguration. I don't want to know.

We'll sit back and watch Trump's fucked up mass deportation. That should be a massive freak show.

I’ve already killed two Trump supporters today. Headed to the landfill now.

“Yeah, dispatch, I think he murdered his parents. They’ve been fighting for weeks. They were arguing about the election. Last week he burned all of their signs.”

As long as it wasn’t premeditated, r204, it was in a fit of passion

The ratings for the DNC beat the RNC, she had massive crowds, huge ratings for the debate where she kicked his ass, lots of buzz whenever she appeared on a show. Then 15 million fewer votes than Biden and a low turnout. Where did the enthusiasm go?

Did Cheney really alienate the base so much that millions stayed home?

Or did millions vote for Trump without ever seeing one of his unhinged rallies or his dancing in place or his threats or his thirst for revenge? They voted for an idea of what they want a strong man to be rather than the reality

Of maybe I just need to accept that millions of people did hear his threats and desire for vengeance and didn’t care. Millions saw him in that hideous orange vest calling everyone trash and ran to polls.

A lot of Gen Z were influenced by the"both sides are bad" rhetoric of assholes like Chappell Roan and Greta Thunberg. I've seen a lot of that. Hope they are all fucking happy with what is to come.

One thing that gives me a tiny bit of joy is the thought that the fools who voted for Trump are going to suffer from what he does just like the rest of us. Maybe even more since I think most of them are less financially able to absorb the higher costs that are coming than the average gay man. I believe we still enjoy a higher average net worth than most of them.

I agree R209 even though I'm working class and will will suffer just as they do after fighting like hell to get Harris elected. The outcome of this will be that blue states will likely get richer and more progressive (and more expensive) while red states will look like Eastern Europe in 1987. Just imagine the deep south when they gut benefits, healthcare, housing, social security. So many of his core base are dependant on the government.

[quote] she had massive crowds

The massive crowd at the Beyonce rally was there to see Beyoncé. There’s no question about that.

[quote]Or did millions vote for Trump without ever seeing one of his unhinged rallies or his dancing in place or his threats or his thirst for revenge?

[quote]They voted for an idea of what they want a strong man to be rather than the reality

Rupert Murdoch learned, after paying $787M in fines for lying, that you do not have to lie.

Just filter only good stories about Republicans and bad stories about Democrats. And pound them.

When I was hearing that voters didn't know Harris after 3 years in office and that she was the "FAILED BORDER CZAR" it was news to me. Well, it wasn't new news to the viewers of the Fox/OAN/Newsmax/RT propaganda machine, who have been underreporting about the Biden Economy successes and over reporting errors.

And Republicans spent a hundred million bucks pummeling .6% of the Citizenry, but they really don't consider Transgender people citizens... or people. You know, like Blacks after the Civil War.

The best thing anybody can do as 2026 and 2028 get closer is, as things get worse, tell them: this is what everybody said would happen with Trump in the White House, so how's that working out for you?

Dump will not deport not one person. I’m here in Times Square where the migrants live free and easy. Fuck Dump for only aggravating and NEVER fixing not one fucking thing.

[quote] When I was hearing that voters didn't know Harris after 3 years in office and that she was the "FAILED BORDER CZAR" it was news to me.

You thought she was a successful border czar?? Wow.

He never built a border wall, so that gives me hope that his deportation camp talk was BS. Then again, the Supreme Court has given him immunity, so who knows

Social Security-

I know that Social Security was never a guarantee-- but as a 45 year old who is FUCKED without it, if my health permits I dont mind working until I die, but who the FUCK is going to hire a 70 year old? Should I try to get some state job when I am 60?

And all of this money that we all put into social security- it just evaporates?

This alone will turn this country into a slum within 20 years.

She was never a Border Czar.

But was she successful in negotiating the Bipartisan Border Security Bill, yes she was. Was she successful in coordinating information about causes and for immigrants from Central America? Yes she was. The Fox noise machine boosted her position to Czar and then derided her for a job she wasn't given. She was an information gatherer. And what the hell did Mike Pence do for four years? Not get killed in the last month of his term by his boss? I find that a difference in reporting, but propaganda be propaganda.

^ To hear Jaydine and Trump over the last couple of months, she was the most powerful VP in American history and ruined everything. I just can't get over how dumb and easily manipulated most Americans are.

[quote] She was never a Border Czar.

She was indeed a border czar, lower case. Whenever you see someone capitalize it, you know they are being disingenuous. “Border Czar”, capitalized, is not an official title.

Remember one thing. We still have lots of Federal Judges who can throw a wrench into most things they'll try if they're unconstitutional or just plain crazy. It's not like Trump is going to be able to issue an order one day to guy Social Security & Medicare/Medicaid. Congress will have to approve it first and there are still plenty republicans who won't go for that because they know it will mean the end of their political careers.

They don't understand that a VP's only job is to break ties in the Senate. And wait for the President to die.

I'd sentence these assholes to watch the entire run of The West Wing. I used to tell my American Government students that if they watched the entire West Wing and looked up everything they didn't understand, they wouldn't need to take an American Government class.

Palestinians in Gaza were asked who they preferred as POTUS and they said Harris. Yet Suzie in Philly who is shopping at Sephora wearing a Keffiyeh couldn't possibly vote for Harris.

During Trump's first term he ended all aid to the Palestinians and there was zero outrage from these folks. I was on Twitter at the time and it wasn't even mentioned.

These protestors are performative losers and their politics is 'own the libs' the same as their red pilled counterparts.

[quote] So many of his core base are dependant on the government.

The eternal, ignorant irony that will never change. Ever.

Federal judges who oppose Trump will be ignored at best. If they keep opposing him they’ll be executed.

Half the people I know who voted for Trump are on SSI.

Social Security is radioactive for any politician. No one who publicly suggests cutting it emerges unscathed. It’s a bridge too far for voters on both sides.

Just ask George W. That librarian he tried to put on the Supreme Court went over better than his plan to move SS money into the stock market.

Supplemental Security Income? Federal Welfare?

Or are you a simpleton who thinks the letters SSI stand for Social Security Income?

Please clarify.

[quote] That librarian he tried to put on the Supreme Court

Harriet Meiers R227. She was his work wife before Condi.

R227 that was then. This is now. As bad as republicans were back then, they’re much worse now.

They don’t have to worry about elections anymore.

Nothing will happen to them when they destroy Social Security. Trump’s minions will love it. They think he’s perfect no matter what.

Oh, and if you want to designate Social Security Retirement Income, the correct acronym is NOT SSI but SSRI.

SSRI is what most Americans receive monthly after age 65 and is what most people generally call Social Security.

Glad I live in a blue state. Only thing, a lot of red asshole tourists visit and fuck-up the vibe.

I'm looking forward to all of those jobs in the Tyson chicken houses opening up once Trump deports the brown people! What should my first day of work outfit be?

Something to blend in with chicken blood& guts!

[quote]Dump will not deport not one person. I’m here in Times Square where the migrants live free and easy. Fuck Dump for only aggravating and NEVER fixing not one fucking thing.

What does Trump have to do with migrants in Times Square?

Stephen Miller will absolutely deport this time and it will be on camera and so many people will revel in the cruelty.

Why do you think it matters if you live in a blue state?

R237, foreign policy and trade disasters affect everyone.

I guess CA and NY and MA would put up a legal battle but I do not know what they would do if Trump takes away Temp protection and suddenly there are millions of people illegal overnight. Many of them with jobs, leases, car notes, kids in school. Nightmare.

Texas and Florida will be happy to participate in deportations.

[quote] Stephen Miller will absolutely deport this time and it will be on camera and so many people will revel in the cruelty.

There’s no way that the repatriations won’t be humane. Courts would block it otherwise. They will probably attempt to extricate people and get them on a plane as quickly as possible to minimize any ill effect of immigration enforcement. Of course people will be happy to see existing law followed and the transgressors no longer allowed to get away with breaking it.

[quote] Texas and Florida will be happy to participate in deportations.

Who will pick the oranges in Florida? I guess we can expect a carton of OJ to cost $20.

The real problem with the deportation plans is that once a government builds a lot of deportation centers and establishes a huge internal security force it starts looking at other people it might want to lock up.

R242, it will take all four years and then some to round up the illegals. There will be no room for anyone else.

[quote] How the fuck are we gonna get through another four years of this?

We can kill Nazis, that's how.

I said this when Cro-Marge was going hard against Mayorkas--her family will get the construction contracts to build the camps.

To the victor goeth the spoils.

And also, R242, we don’t really have the man power to deport on such a large scale so if they attempt it, there’s a good chance non-immigrants, etc. will get mixed up in cull.

And, we you note, other targeted individuals can just disappear.

R237 California is planning to protect itself against the orange red rotten empire the same we did in his last "term."

I no longer think of myself as an American. America is broken. As an elder I'm not sure I will live to see it fixed.

In my mind I've joined the "California Resistance" and will support my state in fighting back against rightwing tyranny.

The blue states should form a NATO like entity to resist the stupidity of Orange Hitler's enforcers.

I condole with progressives who live in red states. There is nothing more frustrating the company of ignorant righteous religious bigots. Mu mother was raised by a fundy grandmother and was emotionally abused. My meek mom was a raging feminist inside while outwardly a genteel lady.

More resistance underway.

[quote]I said this when Cro-Marge was going hard against Mayorkas--her family will get the construction contracts to build the camps.

Is it a publicly traded company? I want to make some motherfucking money!

Yeah, I’ve been looking to retire early and move north to Minnesota. I no longer trust Michigan to remain blue.

[quote] I’ve been looking to retire early and move north to Minnesota. I no longer trust Michigan to remain blue.

In Minnesota, Trump got 44.92% in 2016, 45.28% in 2020, 46.8% in 2024. We’ll see Minnesota go at least purple in our lifetime.

That makes me want Kamala to follow Gavin. CA Resistance indeed and if a bunch of billionaires move to Austin so be it. Don't let the door hit ya.

A coworker just told me that his 2 gen z nephews voted for Trump because he is going to abolish income tax - oy! They gleefully told him we'll go back to tariffs only just like 1913. I bet that message was shared around the manospehere and brought out some bros. Bros who make 50K but think no income tax will make them hustler millionaires.

The only silver lining I can find is that he is going to be loathed in '26 and '28 when he doesn't do this. Or, heaven forbid if he does do it and we have chaos. I still worry that we'll run the most standard white man we can find like Andy who will win because Trump is a disaster but then lose again in '32. We need to be bold and we need to up our communication and media game.

^ Dumbass Americans who think they can pay no taxes but still have all kinds of government services. They're about to find out that doesn't work.

Let me Google that for you, R231. The link below is what I meant. Sorry I ruffled your purple feathers.

[quote] Dumbass Americans who think they can pay no taxes but still have all kinds of government services. They're about to find out that doesn't work.

In the U.S., the game is to get someone else to pay the taxes, or have the government borrow the money, and still collect the benefits. It works.

R253 I understand current CA Attorney General Rob Bonta has aspirations to run for governor when Newsom has timed out.

He's would also be a popular choice. It would be a tough race if Harris jumped back in.

[quote] Texas and Florida will be happy to participate in deportations.

Yup, Abbott and DeSantis will both feel like Trump has given them a never ending Christmas gift.

R196 ok asshole give me your address. I have a boatload of disease, drought, pestilence, floods, fires, and freezing rain I am going to unload on you.

Read the Bible I am a bad ass not some simpering pussy. Show a little fucking respect.

And quit making fun of some of my best supporters .

You have been warned and btw hope to see you on Sunday.

Just a FYI, Bob Brady (Penna. Democratic chairman) just took a shot at Kamala Harris& her campaign staff about the concert on Monday night& how her national campaign staff treated the Philly Democratic city staff.

Kamala's staff attacked back of course. In another call, my co-worker from DC tells me that Ken Paxton (Texas state Attorney general) is mentioned on the list to be dtrump's Attorney General in his new Administration.

Florida is already struggling due to Deathsantis passing that law about illegals. A lot of them left and the construction industry went dead.

If they start doing that, they’ll never get their homes fixed from the next hurricane, nor will any fruit/vegetables get picked.

But, hey! “Own the libs!” “Build a wall!” “Deport them!” Right? Right? That’s what you wanted. Choke on it.

Perhaps it's delusional, but I honestly feel shockingly calm and serene about all of this. Not shocked. Not angry. Not sad. Not glad. But what I want most now, though, is a calm, pragmatic, mature and wiser Democratic Party. I trust that there will be plenty of occasions where it's absolutely necessary to stand up and fight Trump and the magats, but it wont be every every time he opens his mouth. Screaming at level 100 volume for four years is just going to fatigue everyone. And we did that already anyway.

To R248, its going to be"1 Giant shitshow" when Gavin meets dtrump again. Newsom is smart& California has the 5th largest global economy in the world.

The Supreme Court LOVES to enforce "State Law rules" but with the new dtrump Administration& whoever the AG going to be after 01-21-25. It should be fun!!

[quote] Perhaps it's delusional, but I honestly feel shockingly calm and serene about all of this. Not shocked. Not angry. Not sad. Not glad. But what I want most now, though, is a calm, pragmatic, mature and wiser Democratic Party.

It’s not delusional. I feel the same way and did so also before the election. However, being an independent, and therefore not zealously loyal to a political party, I can see the problems that both sides have. I want both parties to be calm, pragmatic, mature, and wiser.

R262, R264, same here

I too was shocked and upset, but nothing like 2016. We've been through this before and yes, it will be painful. But this is the gang that can't shoot straight. They'll fuck things up in record time and Democrats will have to clean up the mess like we always do.

No they won’t. The Dems will never be in office again because there will be no elections. It will be like Succession.

R267 no it’s going to be more like the Tudors. Although there will be elections but the stronger, tougher, meaner, dirtier , GOP will have set the field so that it’s possible that no one posting on DL will ever live to see a Dem president again.

And all these DL fortune tellers that say they can see the future accurately and tell us exactly how bad Trump will do——where the fuck where you last week before the election, because my guess is that DL should be just about the absolute last place that anyone could believe that any of us know anything at all about what is going happen in the future.

We have proven our total incompetence let’s not pretend we all of a sudden got smarter, Last week at this time we were talking about a Harris win and trump going to jail. Instead we got steam rolled.

One day at a time.... La La La La La

Hope democrats learn to burst out of this identity bubble. Msnbc controbites to that. Just watched a segment on gucking Joy Reid praising trans and black women who won thwir seats. This type of talk is thw type of bs which leads to Dems lost

Blow up your TV

Throw away your paper

r263, he needs to stock up on rakes.

We'll get through the next four years by becoming smarter, tougher, more informed and more realistic. We will win again.

November 2064 Fox news at 11

After decades without a chance the Democratic Party has finally won the presidency. Fulfilling a prophecy from R257 decades ago,

When asked after the remarked win why the Dems finally broke thru The Leader said——“ the good straight white legal people have spoken——God Bless America “

Fox News correction —-We Believe in Accuracy

That was R275

For those who voted for Trump, stayed at home, voted for a third party candidate or left the top of the ticket blank...

^ Yeah there will be no resistance this time. There will be no marchers or protestors. He will not get a chance to turn the military on them and broadcast it on Fox to the delight of old rural white people because they won't show up. His deportations will be met with 'bye bitch, you're finding out' He won't be able to deport 11 million people so Miller with will end birthright citizenship and revoke temporary protection status to inflict misery. If Latino men are pulled out of the house in their boxers, I think people who voted for Kamala will watch that shit on a loop, grinning like cats with a bowl of cream.

I’m toying with the idea of starting a “Fuck Around, Find Out” account on social media. Just to ask people if the leopards mentioned how their faces taste.

R280 I would say go for it. I remember there was some twitter account called Trump Regrets which started back in 2017. I have no idea if it's still up.

[quote] I’m toying with the idea of starting a “Fuck Around, Find Out” account on social media

Online I’m seeing that used by both sides. Both sides think the other side fucked around and is now going to find out. Unfortunately for the Democrats, the Republicans now have the power to make the Democratic side find out.

It’s not 4 years, OP. It’s the rest of your lifetime. I have been working since I was 16 and I’m now 63. I will have to work until I die in order to survive what Project 2025 has planned. So far I’ve worked 47 years and will probably have to work 20 more. So potentially 67 years of working. I paid into SS my whole life and now probably won’t get it or Medicare. How will I afford hearing aids, hip replacements, elder care if I don’t work? The question will be who wants to have an 80 year old working for them.

How do you feel about doing day laborer work, R283?

I can handle a hoe r284.

MAGA is about to find out how tariffs actually work first hand.

It’s best to just plan for yourself and the new world order.

Buy index funds, keep your mouth shut and ignore all politics. Maybe keep a MAGA hat in your closet just in case.

Technically, he can have any dissenter gunned down with no consequences. Who wants to deal with that?

Stop trying to revive democracy. It flatlined this week. Great civilizations fall all the time.

The survivors will be the ones that prepare accordingly and not like silly, naive children. This isn’t “Star Wars.” There’s no hero coming to save anyone.

I’ll probably buy an American flag magnet for my car.

[quote] I’ll probably buy an American flag magnet for my car.

I’m downloading Lee Greenwood’s Greatest Hits and subscribing to “Juggs.”

You can’t be too careful.

[quote] I’ll probably buy an American flag magnet for my car.

Going along to get along can be a successful strategy.

Ah, the Bezos approach? It works out so well to appease authoritarians before they even ask.

This is going to be harder than I thought. My first time out in public since Tuesday and I truly wanted to destroy every one I saw. Just done with humanity.

The supermarket had a guy with a smiley face sign- Literally at the entrance (NOT a begger, like who is normally out there) Just a guy with a smiley face--- I could not even see the "good" in that poor doofus who is just trying to make people happy..

I am more horrified than I thought..

R292 I had a similar experience last night. I was stopped at the light outside Wendy's. There was a big fat family sitting in the window stuffing their faces and I just thought 'I hate people!!!'

R293- I am looking at people silently judging them- THIS COCKSUCKER voted for this TREASONIST (I call everyone cocksucker- it has no gay connotation for me- its just a great word-)

And that's NOT GOOD...

And these very few houses in my neck of the woods that still have the multiple Trump Signs/Women For Trump signs. I truly , truly HATE THEM.

I opened my window and flipped them off. Its my new thing.

And this is NH-- And my town truly was 70/30 for Kamala- And I remember every home- and that made me feel good- That most of my town is good people....But this is going to change us all I think- in a multitude of ways

lol r289, r290. Thanks for the needed comic relief.

We live in such an angry, aggrieved society now. That's who voted Trump: angry, aggrieved people who have no joy or optimism in their lives. They, like their Orange Idol, are constantly whining, constantly finding fault and complaining, they see their reflection in him and that's why he resonates. They resented the HELL out of Kamala Harris, Tim Walz and their optimistic, upbeat campaign. That much is crystal clear to me now, in the fallout. The more happy our side got, with our candidates and their positive messaging, the more entrenched they got for Trump.

It's like Tom Nichols said the other night on the Bulwark vlogcast: you go to speak to these "Middle Americans", who are driving big cars, have expensive homes with tons of equity in them, have a decent life. And they are -miserable-, they find no joy in it, they think America sucks because eggs cost $4.50 a carton and the kid at Starbucks has a nose ring and an attitude. They find grievance in EVERYTHING, and blame everyone for their unease. Never looking internally at themselves.

Trump gives them a boogeyman to blame and allows them to feel all their nasty misery, without guilt.

[quote] They find grievance in EVERYTHING, and blame everyone for their unease. Never looking internally at themselves.

Are you sure you’re not speaking of people on DL? That’s a pretty good definition.

Best to find a lesbian for a beard-purse relationship. Start practicing cunnilingus in case they want you to prove it.

Secret police will need more proof so grab some Adam Sandler DVDs and book a trip to Dollywood. Only PBR in the fridge. And put an old Pamela Anderson poster on the wall.

well sure r296, that defines a portion of posters here. Always has (I've been here a long time). Never said it didn't include us. But it certainly seems to be a major mindset of the diehard Trump voter these days, it goes a certain way to explain why so many voted for a total loser. That was my point.

What will the republican pols do when their mistresses get knocked up?

R298 a portion?

If DL is anything at all its grievances 24/7. This place is nothing but bitching , complaining about others , wishing for the death of others, hate and grievances .

It’s what makes this place as interesting. as it is.

I guess I can get through it stinko, by my pool

Whatever r300, you may be right. But we're not Trumpers here. I was making an observation specifically about that voting group, not analyzing our posting demo on this board.

Old school Philly Dem boss Bob Brady was mentioned upthread, here is a link to a fuller article about his complaints about the Harris campaign and her handling of the Philly-regional precinct bosses. Sounds like she mistakenly thought she didn't need to pay homage - it's the old adage, all politics is local.

He also was widely quoted as saying that the pre-Election Night outdoor rally downtown upset a lot of locals and commuters, since it shut down busy streets for hours. Not a way to encourage voters, by pissing them off and irritating them the night before a busy Election Day.

[quote] What will the republican pols do when their mistresses get knocked up?

The favored gays who don’t “disappear” will marry them and raise the bastard in some trailer park in Kentucky. Keep silent and you’ll be rewarded with a yearly bucket of KFC.

My feeling is fuck it. The public who voted for Trump can take responsibility for his actions. I will stay informed and engaged but I am not going to give him any space in my head.

Maybe when he's sworn in and takes the oath, a lightning bolt will strike him. I remember when a previous pope died, a lightning bolt hit the vatican so strange shit can happen.

[quote] Ah, the Bezos approach? It works out so well to appease authoritarians before they even ask.

You got that right. Best of luck to the resistance.

Musk negotiating with Trump is a national security issue. People need to wake up fast because they are the new boss lords with no guardrails.

If by "people" you mean us, I think we're plenty awake to the castastrophe that's about to unfold. But it's out of our control now.

It’s over. Everyone needs to stop pretending.

We’re Venezuela now.

Look out for yourself. Democratic do-gooders are officially the world’s losers.

The United States of China-Russia awaits your relatives.

Be happy you won’t have to see it.

I’m going to do my best resist Stockholm Syndrome.

I broke up with my boyfriend.

Bradley Cooper came out. Said I could begin to want a wife.

I condole America

Pod Save America Host Says Biden’s Internal Polling Showed Trump Winning 400 Electoral Votes

Just grey rock the whole fucking shit show, in unison. No reaction to anything will enrage them.

So if Trump (in theory) got 400... that leaves Biden with 138.

So, CA: 55, Il. 19, NY, 28, NY, 4, VT, 3 CT, 7, Mass 11, DE 3, Maryland, 10, DC, 3, NJ, 14, RI 4. That's 161. Which of these would he lose?

We will manage-We will manage by way of Stockholm Syndrome: Feelings of trust or AFFECTION? for the hostage taker.OMG.

[quote] No reaction to anything will enrage them.

I agree with this.

Repugs live for liberals noticing them and reacting to them. That's why they can't leave liberal spaces alone. That's why Truth Social is just another website. It's all of them just talking to each other.

R318, four states that Harris won by 5% or less are Minnesota, New Hampshire, New Jersey, and Virginia, but that’s only 41 votes.

Remember one thing, when you think things will never get better you'll always be surprised when they do. And another thing you can count on is how rapidly Trump and his new administration will fuck things up massively and turn millions of his voters against him. They're not even remotely capable to carrying out their so-called 'project 2125". There will be nothing but massive infighting, people dropping out, getting fired and sabotaging their plans secretly. In his first term he at least did pick several people who were accomplished. This term he's going to try and install nothing but gophers, yes men, and nitwits. You don't seriously think these people (if they even get through Congressional approval) will be able to get much of anything done, do you. Plus the courts are going to put a stop to a ton of their bullshit plans.

I fully imagine by the mid-terms people will be so sick of all the bullshit they'll kick many of the republicans out of the House and we'll retake it.

[quote] Repugs live for liberals noticing them and reacting to them.

Isn’t that why Democrats and Republicans post incendiary things on social media, to get both their own and the other side to react?

[quote] You don't seriously think these people (if they even get through Congressional approval) will be able to get much of anything done, do you. Plus the courts are going to put a stop to a ton of their bullshit plans.

Seriously? That's the conclusion you draw from what just happened?

They don't want "anything done".

If there is one thing this election taught, it's that Trump and his cabal will get EVERYTHING they want. And they didn't have to force that. The majority of American voters gave them a gigantic permission slip.

And they'll get away with a sub-sub-sub level of governing performance.

And it's laughable that you think the Court will put a stop to anything. Trump owns, because Americans just willingly gave it to him, the federal judiciary.

We've stepped out of the old world. It's gone. This new one is in charge. Yes, they'll fuck it up. But if you think Americans will hold Trump and his cabal accountable, I've got a US Capitol building to sell you.

Trump has always been all talk and no action. I expect nothing less of him now. Especially once he finds out just how difficult it's going to be to deport millions of people as fast as he claims he's going to. AIN'T A'GONNA HAPPEN FOLKS!!

[quote] If there is one thing this election taught, it's that Trump and his cabal will get EVERYTHING they want.

It depends on what they can get into a reconciliation bill. Right now is when Democrats on Capitol Hill are giving a multitude of thanks to whatever they pray to for them being unsuccessful in the last Congress in abolishing the filibuster.

R326, you really think John Thune or John Cornyn or whoever the Republicans pick to succeed McConnell isn't already laying the groundwork with their caucus to end the filibuster in January? If there's any chance that the filibuster will be an obstacle to them passing all of the horrible things they want, it will quickly become a quaint artifact of a much gentler time in American history.

[quote] you really think John Thune or John Cornyn or whoever the Republicans pick to succeed McConnell isn't already laying the groundwork with their caucus to end the filibuster in January?

I thought people said they would be busy building concentration camps. Do they have time to do anything else?

I don't think the Senate will be the ones building the camps. But they at least have to pass the legislation that provides the funding for them. Anything that prevents them from doing that will be dispensed with quickly.

Also, I'm pretty sure they can multi-task (when they want to).

[quote] you really think John Thune or John Cornyn or whoever the Republicans pick to succeed McConnell isn't already laying the groundwork with their caucus to end the filibuster in January?

Just as there was with the Democrats there will be just enough Republicans who won't support a repeal. Starting with McConnell, who, even as Leader, resisted Trump's strong-arm measure in the first administration.

[quote] Just as there was with the Democrats there will be just enough Republicans who won't support a repeal.

More than just enough. I think people will agree that the Republicans look at things like this long term, and so how it would affect them when they are in the minority, whereas Democrats for the most part don’t do delayed gratification.

I think I'll rewatch Once Upon a Time in Hollywood and pretend that I'm the Dicaprio character with the flame thrower aimed at Trump.

[quote] Remember one thing, when you think things will never get better you'll always be surprised when they do.

🤣

I thought Cornyn was no fan of Trump, if not a critic. Loomer was ranting about them today. Mad that Hawley was backing Cornyn for leader. There was a post. It was this:

JUST IN:

Senator Josh Hawley @HawleyMO is supporting Trump hater John Cornyn @JohnCornyn in the race for Senate GOP leader.

Cornyn’s top strategist called Donald Trump a “psychopath”, and Cornyn said Trump can’t win in 2024.

The only MAGA choice for Senate GOP leader is @SenRickScott

Hunger Games! This caught my eye:

There is not much the Pentagon can do to pre-emptively shield the force from a potential abuse of power by a commander in chief. Defense Department lawyers can and do make recommendations to military leaders on the legality of orders, but there is no real legal safeguard that would prevent Trump from deploying American soldiers to police US streets.

Man up, OP. Are you a man or a mouse? Toughen up.

[Quote]Gay men can have a gallows humor about things. It's those on DL who are not gay men who can't handle their emotions

The actual gay men - and some of the lezzies- on here are tough as nails. The whining comes from the fruit flies who have inserted themselves, and the bisexuality and the mentally unstable.

You go fight. I’ll be moving to a more safe and friendly region. Like rural Mexico.

The lezzies here do NOT play. They will read and gather all us bitches, and get us together.

Bonnie Mace would tell us where to go and how to get there as well.

R334

Cornyn show these flashes of normalcy about once every few years or so.

Best case scenario - Trump dies soon or has to be removed via 25th amendment, Vance becomes the most unpopular leader ever and the people revolt. He doesn't have the charisma or cult following to get away with 1% of Dump's bullshit.

Worst case scenario

Trump lays the ground work and america loves it, America loves the economy, the restrictions on trans, the restrictions on porn, the restrictions on unsafe high risk sex, the attacks on elites, the etc etc etc etc.

We thought Biden would win we though Harris would win we think Trump will fail.. so far our forecasting is shit,

It’s not impossible that the majority of Americans will think that this America First was over due and works, The maga gays will do well though. They will be held up as the “normal gay” guys that voted for us.

Remember history. Hitler was a very popular German leader, right until he stared to,lose the war. The majority of Germans supported and loved Hitler and his policies..

We could be in for decades of conservative rule, And trump is not going to fight any major wars by choice.

I have no idea what’s actually going to happen and no one else on DL does either,

I fear R342's scenario is more plausible and likely than Trump and Republicans getting vomited up quickly.

The only hope is Trump tanks the economy and blows up inflation again with his tariffs. Other than that, I wouldn't be surprised if a lot of the country really enjoys the way things go. And remember, it's not just Trump. They're lining up on the hard right to make America great again.

Rick Scott (age 71) has been pretty clear that he wants to dismantle Social Security. I fear for how much Republicans will overreach if they win the House.

I swear to you- YOUNG MEN are going to be the key demo going forward--- After really OPENING MY EYES and looking into this- these idiots are DUMB AS FUCK and came out in full force... HOWEVER.....

I think these guys are (and Gen Z and Millennials) GOT FUCKED in this world- I am 45.

Wages do not pay enough in most areas- especially BLUE areas for these kids to even save for a down payment for a house. They KNOW that the American dream is dead, and they are done. For every 1 rich CUNT that I know- I know one doofy surfer guy who's daddy just bought him a 2 million dollar house that will be worth 3 million in 1-2 years (this area is insane) I know 10 kids living in their parent's basement at 27, 28...

Nothing will change unless these kids are somehow welcomed to the party... And even then, I think we have signed a 20+year deal with the devil- if not forever.

The Washington Post says Republicans first target for retribution is Jack Smith. Does anyone subscribe and can share what they are planning to do with him?

He’ll just go back to The Hague

He should get the hell out of the Divided States of America.

R346 read it fir yourself —easily done. He loses his special counsel post and moves on. That’s it.

Trump will at a minimum get the IRS to audit Jack Smith and try to get him fired. Like he did with Jim Comey and Andrew McCabe.

I am worried about that GOP will require everyone to upload his ID when you sub a porno site.

The WaPo story just says the Gym Jordan and some other Trumper are gunning for Smith and have sent a letter demanding the preservation of all records. It says two or three separate hearings are inevitable and that where the Justice Department has previously acted to protect the integrity of investigations, this Justice Department would co-operate enthusiastically as in Trump's Justice Department. The only interesting wrinkle (to me) was the assertion Democrats would take advantage of multilple hearings to visit in depth the findings against Trump and that at no point have even the Trumpers proposed that Smith did anything criminal.... they seek mostly to prove it was a purely political and therefore corrupt investigation.

Still, if it was me, I'd leave the country too.

They are going to copy the whole authoritarian playbook from Russia, with all that entails. Dump has been given carte blanche to do whatever he wants without consequences.

R350 he doesn’t have to fire him. He leaves when the investigation is over….which is now…wrapping it up girvdusmisssl by Akan.

No firing necessary. Is out of a job with dismissal of the case.

Maybe there will be a special counsel to investigate the special counsel. That could be irony.

No irony there. It’s Lookinglass meets the Law.

The time has come,' the Walrus said,

To talk of many things:

Of shoes — and ships — and sealing-wax —

Of cabbages — and kings —

[quote] Trump will at a minimum get the IRS to audit Jack Smith

There’s a lot less fishing that the government can do against an individual than it can with someone in the business world. For example, there’s a long list of agencies that the Biden administration has used against Musk. Musk no doubt hopes the new administration will curb that.

R353 Russia? No. Think China and North Korea. Russia is a chaotic mess, but China and North Korean dictatorships are tightly functioning, and those leaders have complete totalitarian control over their populations. All that's missing is the Christian theocracy slant. Once the incoming regime begins to legislate via religious zealotry, they'll quickly be able to establish and implement Christianity-based laws, federally and locally.

R359, the U.S. may be many things, but it will never be “tightly functioning” It lacks the cultural and ethnic uniformity for that.

Nothing about Dump's first term or his 2024 campaign suggests that any of the people around him can pull off anything other than a chaotic mess.

I plan to continue on as usual living day to day and enjoying the peaceful tranquility of retirement. Should things get Hinky (as they probably will) I will adjust accordingly and deal with what comes. I live in a rural area of central VA (South of C-ville) and most in the area are live and let live and are pretty decent people. No real neighbors to speak of (I'm on 5 acres) with the adjoining acreage farmland.

Taking a break from the MSM will be beneficial for me since I can't control what others think or do. I can stream anything so I can bypass the usual information silo but still stay informed - or not.

This forum and the folks on DL are a beacon of light and general goodness sharing thoughts and information which I am grateful for.

We will keep being us no matter what and help those who need it when we can.

Thanks DL!

Just a reminder...

[quote] What will the republican pols do when their mistresses get knocked up?

They will pay for travel expenses for the mistresses to travel to states that still offer abortions. I bet some Texas Republicans have already paid for their mistresses plane tickets to New Mexico and the cash for the abortions.

R353 China is in economic chaos —our 2008 is their 2024…the central government is throwing hundreds of billions to local governments…and it isn’t working. It won’t work. Same to individual investors and homeowners.

Now that’s irony: their mortgage crisis will make Trump look better & act more effectively towards their economy.

Is South Cuntville an incorporated city or town, or just a census-designated place?

R365 was meant for r359

[quote]This forum and the folks on DL are a beacon of light and general goodness sharing thoughts and information which I am grateful for. We will keep being us no matter what and help those who need it when we can.

Wow, if that's true, your real life must really suck.

R360 - of course it's not, at least not yet. What I was trying to get across is that the type of controlled society that the GOP want with the incoming Chrisitan dictatorship is very similar to what is currently in place with governments in China and North Korea. Those governmental structures offer the GOP a working template to study and aspire to for their desired Chrisitan theocracy.

I will get through this by laughing at every school shooting and woman dying because she can’t get an abortion.

American made its choices clear. fuck it.

[Quote] I am worried about that GOP will require everyone to upload his ID when you sub a porno site.

Of course. And maybe even DL.

But interestingly not X, which has tons of porn

R365 - the economic chaos does not really affect the already wealthy and those at the top in China. It only affects the population under totalitarian control.

[Quote] The Washington Post says Republicans first target for retribution is Jack Smith. Does anyone subscribe and can share what they are planning to do with him?

He’ll resign before the next administration starts. Sure, they’ll call him up to the Hill to grill him publicly and try to embarrass him but maybe he’ll just reveal all he found

R372 you are 100% wrong.

At every level, their national wealth depends on real estate /financial services.

Read. The more you know

R286 The only person I feel sorry for is the woman's husband and the company president who knew how tariffs work. The MAGA employees at the company will be whining once it's closer to Christmas and they don't have the extra money to buy Stanleys for their Karen wives or video game consoles for their brats.

Vice President Musk (or Co-President?) has already told the cult that inflation will get worse under Trump’s tariffs at least in the short term (which could be years). My feeling is that Trump will be a despised failure pretty quickly in 2025.

[quote] Nothing about Dump's first term or his 2024 campaign suggests that any of the people around him can pull off anything other than a chaotic mess.

I would agree, except that I think his new female chief of staff will be a lot more effective than any of his male ones were.

R375 you do know that the quoted tweet is a faked meme circulating everywhere —if not, the obviously stilted text and story would let you know it’s not reliable. Hmmm, jeez.

R377 and it helps ...ever so little… that she’s the most pragmatic Trumper in his orbit.

It may be giggles and curls with Susie now, but she will be fired or quit within six months like all the others.

I don't get the point of videos like R278 which to me amount to nothing more than childish temper tantrums.

Yes the percentage of white women and men (along with Latinos) who voted for Trump should be called out. But it's now also fuck those who supported Harris, contributed to her campaign, and voted for her as well?

Let's just alienate everyone while we're at it!!

But then I see she works in Hollywood. Enough said.

[quote] I would agree, except that I think his new female chief of staff will be a lot more effective than any of his male ones were.

Drama will probably happen once she doesn't do something that Musk, Thiel, or RFK Jr want her to do.

Poor JD —he is being sidelined in ways Mike Pence and Kamala Harris never dared dream of …

[quote] Sure, they’ll call him up to the Hill to grill him publicly and try to embarrass him but maybe he’ll just reveal all he found

There’s two different views about that possible reveal. Democrats’ view is “Yes! This reveal, not the hundreds before, will be the one that finally affects Trump and embarrasses him and the Republicans!”. The Republicans’ view about the possibility of a reveal is “So?”

America will also shrug its shoulders at anything the Special Counsel reveals. Americans are sick of hearing all the illegal and crazy things Trump as down already

[quote] How the fuck are we gonna get through another four years of this?

I won't survive it.

Suze:

Spouse, Lanny Wiles (m. 1985; div. 2017)​

Closeted lesbian: 2017-present

Pat Summerall’s daughter!

The spirit of Pat Summerall will guide her and the country.

We could do worse at this point 🤷🏻‍♂️

He was good at what he did

R374 - ok. sure. You know everything about it, I guess.

R380 yep. Women selected for the new administration will only be granted the facade of power and influence. In reality, they'll be subservient to the men and their decisions.

No r391 I never claimed that. But your post betrayed a lack of information. Let that be a comfort to you.

R390 you don’t like women too much, do you? That is poorly-made observation.

For R392^^

you don’t like women too much, do you? That is poorly-made observation.

Just do your own thing-as you wait for the late night knock on your door from the Tump SS ‘’Sir get your coat and come with us’’ escorted to black van by thugs with automatic weapons-the end.

R395 - I respect, admire, and adore many women but history has plenty of evidence of women in positions of "power" being tolerated, placated, or dismissed with an attitude from men in power that amounts to, "ok, little lady. Thanks for your input." Wealthy women fare better, of course, but in reality it's only their money that matters. This is an even stronger current running through most religions. The patriarchy has a robust desire for self-preservation and has succeeded for centuries because of it.

[quote] Just do your own thing-as you wait for the late night knock on your door from the Tump SS ‘’Sir get your coat and come with us’’ escorted to black van by thugs with automatic weapons-the end.

Since that experience happened to Roger Stone and others, I would think that the GOP would be more sensitive to allowing that to happen in the future.

R390 your misogyny is showing

R397 you misogyny showing

I expect we're all gonna die!

My tips:

1) Turn off 24 Hour Cable News

2) Don't get caught up in all the 'can you believe what Trump is doing or is planning to do' talk and threads on here and other places.

3) If innocent people get deported, just say, not my problem

4) If some woman dies because she was denied healthcare, just say, not my problem

5) If a person of color (you pick the color) gets unfairly targeted by the police, beaten up, or shot, just say, not my problem

6) If someone asks you to march, phone bank, donate, or just otherwise participate in some silly protest, just say, not my problem

7) OP, you care about you. Fuck everyone else. That was the message of this election. Enjoy you, OP.

Trump: “Susie can you get us some diet cokes and then leave and shut the door?”

R400 sure, whatever you say. Go on trusting, babylove. Must be cosy to be so naive. Good luck to you.

R403, exactly. Same script, different decade.

I’m pretty confident of your misogyny. Please continue…

R402- I am following this actually-

I am still following some very small YT channels now- I ditched those greedy Medias Cunt brothers and that Ben Tyler three named dude- Done with their bullshit headlines and them making hundreds of thousands off of trump and our misery- but truly doing NOTHING to help people-

This gentleman has a nice channel- a great Minnesota accent- he is a former pastor, and hates Trump- but he bring a lovely spiritual vibe to it, and I like him very much- it brings me some peace.

R406, Glad you're confident about something because you're certainly blind to societal patterns throughout history.

Not blind to you.

R351, that already exists here in Texas. I can no longer access X-hamster or other porn sites, without uploading my Texas DL. I can use TOR browser to circumvent (for right now,, anyway) . I fucking hate these nazi magats

r410, you only need a VPN. You can pick Canada as your region and the porn will flow.

I will be curious to see if this Trump 2.0 administration will be more organized, or just as chaotic as the first one and the recent campaign (which let's face it, was a complete shit show). It should be clear in just a couple of weeks or months how they are conducting themselves. Trump actually could coast through this second term (since he will never see a courtroom again) but I doubt he can restrain himself. His whole management style is to pit people against one another and force all decisions to come from him - it's chaotic and inefficient). Plus at his advanced age and declining cognitive ability, it will be a complete zoo unless it's properly managed. It's already creepy how Elon Musk has inserted himself as a co-leader.

[quote]Trump actually could coast through this second term (since he will never see a courtroom again) but I doubt he can restrain himself.

It's going to depend on how much he allows others to make the hiring decisions. Almost all the people he hired were terrible. Even the people in the administration who are now anti-Trump were terrible. John Bolton is the first one that pops into my head, but there are many, many others.

Someone is bound to clash with Musk. Staff turnovers will happen like they did the last time.

Trump has been very quiet the last few days, which seems very strange and out of character. I would've expected him to be on TV nonstop, gloating and taking about how great things are now. What is he up to? Or has he finally stroked out? 🙏🙏🙏

He’s doing his armchair attacks, including a long post attacking Gavin Newsom.

Someone probably took his phone away, lest he start gloating and give away the entire scam they’re running.

Besides, Melon and couch fucker are the ones who will REALLY run the show. The orange traitor is just to keep the cult engaged

A Look at the 2024 Elections

First we have to look at unadjusted exit polls for the election. This was extremely difficult to find. They were answering every question except who people voted for. Insanity. I finally found the answer on the site of a newspaper with the name Economist in it. It said:

The final unadjusted exit poll for the night showed that Kamala Harris is winning the election by 4 points.

What was the final result? Trump won by 2.6 points! That’s a 6.6 point anomaly between exit polls and results. Oh and by the way, a 2.6 point win is not a blowout or a landslide. Are you guys high? A landslide is the 1972 election where George McGovern lost by 24 points.

We already have a problem, assuming the exit polls are accurate. The national exit polls were off by 6.6 full points from the final tally. Statistically I would say that that’s extremely unlikely.

They’re not supposed to deviate more than a 2.5 point margin of error. Over 50 states, 1-2 states might be outside the 2.5 point MOE. Most results will be within the margin. For the national exit poll to be not only outside of the margin of error but by that much strains credulity.

I would like someone to give me a statistic for how likely a poll is to go off like that. I don’t believe that prior to 2000, any exit poll was off by that much.

Next we need to look at each individual state and see how far the exit polls were off from the vote. Some cases were clearly anomalous. Ted Cruz was up by 1-2 points and he won by 10 points.

Rick Scott was up by a point or two and he won by 12 points. Ruben Gallegos is only beating Kari Lake by 1 point and he was up by 13 points in polls.

Now lets look at how many votes we are talking about here. That’s about 11 million voters. There are 15 million missing Democratic voters and there is an 11 million vote anomaly between exit polls and results.

Surely a lot of Democrats sat at home, but did 15 million of them sit home? That 11 million anomaly explains a lot of the missing voters right there.

And once again the polls versus results showed that all dramatic anomalies were in favor of Republicans, and we have yet another red shift like we’ve been experiencing since 2000.

Weren’t early exit polls already showing Trump ahead? I’m not sure. We really need to look into this.

I bet he's really exhausted--remember the last weeks of the campaign when he was falling asleep and canceling interviews? Please let it be sad last days for Diaper Donnie.

Conclusion: Analysis shows that there is a 6.6 point anomaly between the national exit poll and the final result. This is far outside of the margin of error which would be unlikely to be broken in a national poll anyway.

It is so far outside the margin of error that it strains credulity. There is no solid evidence of Republican voter fraud yet again as they’ve been doing for 24 years now, but there are certainly grounds for suspicion.

Much more work needs to be done before we can draw any conclusions, but the suspicious result means a careful examination to look for fraud is mandatory.

Hey dummy, there are several million votes to be counted. Gus margin will not be that large. Catch a clue.

You’re working off of incomplete numbers. And we won’t have through exit poll data for months.

Let’s be the soundtrack

R421. Bellevue is waiting to check you in. Nuts!

There is no such thing as unadjusted exit polls for the election

[quote]I bet he's really exhausted--remember the last weeks of the campaign when he was falling asleep and canceling interviews? Please let it be sad last days for Diaper Donnie.

As Biden showed, a person can be president without speaking or being seen very often. That will be a big difference from the campaign. He'll probably send Vice-President Vance places to speak for him.

Trump has been almost silent since he won the election, and it feels like the calm before the storm. I wonder what Kamala is up to now. She has been away except for her concession speech, which I thought was lovely.

R427 It’s that Susie Wiles. She must have a good mindfuck game. “Oh but you don’t want to lose, what did dad tell you about losing?”

[quote]Someone is bound to clash with Musk. Staff turnovers will happen like they did the last time

Someone? it will be everyone in the WH. And not just clashing with Musk: there's Wiles, Steve "Just Got Outta Jail" Bannon, Steven Miller, Junior Mint, Peter Thiel, KellyAnne (yes, she'll be back), Dana White, Loomer, and an entire new cast of crazies.

I think this is what upsets me about this election outcome more than anything: we had 4 years of relative calm in the WH under Biden, run by professional adults who had their shit together and never did anything to embarrass us on the National or Interational stage. That's all about to change! In just a few months we'll be back to the rage, chaos, and public backstabbing that were hallmarks of the glorious Trump 1st term. Good Times!

The opposite r426. Trump only exists in front of a crowd of acolytes and worshipers. You make him sound like somebody who gives a flying fuck about policy and governing and making anything better. He never has.

Vance on the other hand has ideas and causes. They all suck, but he has them. If anybody is going to stay in the background getting shit done, it'll be him.

[quote]As Biden showed, a person can be president without speaking or being seen very often.

And how did it work out for him? He never spoke or explained, and had the crazy opposition out there every week hammering at him, framing his work for him. At the end of the day, the general electorate had little idea about what Biden's WH had achieved, or how smoothly they ran things in difficult times. He had a low 40% approval rating, no thanks to Trump and the far-right's constant hammering of him.

You CAN'T be president without being seen or speaking often, is the key takeaway here.

[quote] I wonder what Kamala is up to now.

She's probably going from crying, to calm, to sadness, to decompressing, to anger, you name it.

She is experiencing the entire gamut of human emotions, and numbness, if there is any mercy in this world.

She made mistakes. But I respect the hell out of her. I was proud to vote for her.

I'm out for good. I'll no longer invest in any political battles. I surrender to the reality of this new world that has no place for me and many others

Since America voted for another four years of low-life garbage and vulgarity, R432, Kamala should be interviewed fully uncensored to say how she really feels about president-elect Neck Pussy and his Couch Fucking veep. She'll still be viewed as a better person than they ever will be, so let the frustration and anger flow.

Kara Swisher on CNN today said that Musk won't last long. Trump will get jealous as Musk overreaches. Musk and Trump both want to be #1. I could see it. That's good.

r433.

I have to believe she’ll write a book. I’d be very interested in reading it.

MAGA will make their star into a GOD-He can do no wrong no matter what he does.I have abandoned all media.Not going to listen to the play by play of a mad man.

Elon will also find out pretty quickly that he is not a God king and can't just decree that entire parts of the United States government are immediately disbanded. This ketamine addicted nutcase won't last long.

That is just my opinion, but go ahead and call me Pollyanna.

Guess I'll have to wait 4 more years before I try to address my drinking problem.

I hope they all kill each other.

Like within the first week or so.

Would sure solve a myriad of problems.

Susie’s gonna run through a wall. How long is she going to gatekeep him?

And keep in mind that many of his staff and lawyers from before have been indicted, convicted and/or dis-barred. It'll happen again.

[quote]Trump has been very quiet the last few days, which seems very strange and out of character.

Partly the exhaustion of a stupid cognitively declining old man. The scent of battle and obsession with Winning by any means got him over the line.

But now part of him has to be thinking: 'Christ, I'm the greatest comeback kid in the history of world politics, everyone says so. But now I've actually got to do the goddamned job again for at least another four years, some say I should do it forever. And for sure I need to set aside enough time for golf.'

Of course Trump's intoxication with power again and love of chaos will energise him for a while. But fading mental and physical health, egotistical overreaching, and conflicts at the top table will visibly take their toll as he lumbers into his eighties. It's to be hoped that sixty-eight million voters will be watching every false move, and criticising publicly, vigorously and often as he declines, as Trump himself was constantly wont to do.

[quote] It'll happen again.

Really, r441?

#442 nails it. The balloons and confetti are being swept up and Trump is saying, "Who can I delegate this job out to now?'. I expect a 2 month victory tour. He loves applause; it tells him all the evil things he's done to people were justified.

+1 with r444.

You nailed it r442

‘’Pay no attention to the man behind the curtain’’

I don’t care what he does.I did my best.We now live in North Korea.

One thing we all know is Donald Trump will cut a bitch before letting someone else take a miniscule amount of attention away from him. Elon Musk will end up regretting his decision to support a man so selfish that he'd throw his family under the bus if it would benefit him. Trump would not hesitate using the government to go after Musk's companies, either. Some have to learn the hard way.

Very good points R448 Hope all that happens.

It gives me some comfort knowing that none of the New England states elected him. I'm still shocked at the outcome, it doesn't make sense to me.

I am worried.I’m also watching what I post on DL and other platforms. TRUMP/MAGA will soon be everywhere and infiltrating all internet sites.

[quote] TRUMP/MAGA will soon be everywhere and infiltrating all internet sites.

They don't have the intelligence to figure out how to do that, R451. Besides, a fair number of them also go to their own adult sites. But if you want to fold a week after the election and live in subservience and fear, go ahead.

I hope Trump reverses all that student loan forgiveness. That should change some hearts and minds.

I'm looking forward to the repeal of the Affordable Care Act, so it can be replaced with the much improved "concepts of a plan."

If nothing else r453 it will show college students the real world cost of voting for the Trump Cult, or not voting at all.

[quote] I hope Trump reverses all that student loan forgiveness. That should change some hearts and minds.

I doubt that the people receiving the student loan bailout voted for him. The people who did vote for him would probably cheer the reversal since they received no assistance with their other kinds of debt balances.

Well I suspect a lot of people who voted for Trump had huge PPP loans forgiven r456.

But honestly, I think what we really need is a wider discussion about this massive debt society we've created. Where pretty much everyone is supposed to have big debts, first for college, than for mortgages, maybe credit cards, and then huge medical debt. And that's the norm and the goal.

It’s to keep us working until we drop dead, then pass the debt onto our children.

If we have time to think, we have time to plan and build guillotines.

And sharpen pikes.

He will eat you

NOTHING MATTERS ANYMORE

What r460 said

[quote] There are a lot of stops on the railroad line to bad, before you get to Hitler station.

Agree r432

I’m exhausted and no longer care about it all. I only care and worry for the people I love. Other than that fuck it

As so many in the Trump foreign policy orbit have, like JD Vance. made the argument that Ukraine is diverting US interests from the real concern, that of Taiwan, David Frum makes the following analogy before reaching his conclusion:

[quote] You owe a big debt to the bank. And you want to reassure the bank that you can pay. So you default on the electric bill, you default on the cable bill, you default on the child support & you horde your money to show the bank that you can pay them. And the bank's gonna say, "You're a deadbeat. ... All those other defaults, you're gonna default on us." To defend Taiwan, the US needs partnerships. It cannot do it by itself. And it will not do it... The United States security guarantee to Taiwan only works if there's a large coalition of allies. And the coalition of allies are gonna say, "How do you treat your other allies? You defaulted on Ukraine. Your word is no good. We're not taking your word for anything." The United States keeps the peace without fighting because its credit is good. And Donald Trump is a deadbeat & his word is no good. And the Chinese will figure that out real fast.

Next stop, Taipei! All aboard!

It's the 2 months of waiting and not knowing that messes with me. Will this be the end? Will it be an immediate shitshow and a revolt? Will it be a nothing burger? WTF knows, we have to wait until January 20th.

I'm not going to watch the news anymore beginning right before Trump falsely utters another oath of office.

I do want to see what the Dems do while still in power.

I’m ignoring him ABD the complicit media from here on out.

I will throw myself into home improvement projects and my woodworking hobby.

‘’The Trump administration couldn’t dissolve gay marriage-there are laws in place’’

[quote]Stephen Miller will absolutely deport this time and it will be on camera and so many people will revel in the cruelty.

"Miller, who served as a senior adviser to Trump during his first administration and has been a leading advocate for more restrictive immigration policy, is expected to take on an expanded role in the president-elect’s second term."

The Miller news was a gut punch but shouldn't be. Of course he is. This is what is coming, people. I gotta figure out how stay away from online and media. It's going to happen whether I know about it or not.

Start by leaving DL.

R472, yep. My subscription expires soon. And I'll go. Some people find the anger comforting here, for me it is very draining. So, onward. Man, I will read all those books after all...

[quote] Half the people I know who voted for Trump are on SSI

My friend's mentally ill step-brother is on SSI and voted for Trump. I have known my friend and her family for 25 years. I was middle school when I met my friend and her step- brother is 4 years older than us. At the time, we became friends her step-brother had been released from a mental hospital due to severe schizophrenia and bipolar. He never finished high school because he had been in and out of hospitals. Doctors advised the family that he get on SSI. He never worked as a teenager so nothing was paid into the system so there was no way he would get SSDI. The step-brother has always considered himself a patriotic Republican because his father was also a Republican. The sad thing related to that was the father has never wanted him to live with him and so it fell on my friend's step mom and dad for housing. My friend worked on Obama's campaign in 2008 during gap period between her undergrad degree and going to grad school. Her step-brother constantly argued with her during that time. He bought into a lot into the Obama birther crap so years later when Trump came into politics he easily bought into the other shit Trump was spewing.

I also worked in case management for a home healthcare company where most of my client load was people with disabilities. I have also volunteered for disability non-profits for many years as well. I have known some people on SSI because they never worked or didn't work enough to get SSDI prior to becoming disabled. There were some on SSDI who are/were ok financially because they were married or had other types of family support. In some there were people who had long enough work histories prior to being disabled that they had access to 401ks, pensions, or IRAs which gave them a bit more financial cushion. I know or have known some people on SSDI that have financial struggles because the amounts they are getting aren't enough to cover all their expenses and or they had work histories (prior to disability) of bouncing between jobs which didn't allow them to pay into/invest enough into sources such as pensions 401ks and some of these people are single (never married) or divorced. The ones I know or knew with financial struggles and who aren't married usually live or lived with parents or family members.

About a dozen of the people I know besides my friend's step brother who are SSI and SSDI are Trump supporters. But, the only one who will survive cuts to SSDI is a paraplegic woman whose husband works a white collar job and also gets money via trust fund. The other ones on SSI or SSDI will struggle more and it will put a strain on their families who aren't upper middle class or wealthy. My friend's step-mom and dad constantly worry about what will happen with her step-brother after they pass away. The step-brother's father as I mentioned above doesn't him in his house. My friend, her siblings, and step-siblings do not get along at all with their Trumpster step-brother/brother.

I left case management in 2014, but continued doing volunteer work with disability non-profits in part because I made some close friendships in those organizations and most people do appreciate the organizations and the help they get. One organization that I volunteer with is a brain injury organization. They are hosting a Zoom meeting tomorrow night so admins and volunteers can start making plans to assist the clients who are at most risk of losing SSI or SSDI. I talked on Saturday night with one friend who is a lawyer who volunteers at the same organization and she is already dreading the next four years because she knows that she's not going to be able to help everyone.

Get a blog, bitch!