It's the Economy, stupid!

The aforementioned exit polls...

(lots more data in there, but I think the above question is the most telling.)

The economy? Stupid? Every time Republicans are in White House there is a recession.

This is strange to me because Republicans are allegedly pro-business...a billionaire has promised Americans an economic downturn IF TRUMP IS INSTALLED AGAIN.

Elon Musk asks voters to brace for economic 'hardship,' deep spending cuts in potential Trump Cabinet role

It's just stupid, nothing to do with the economy. Too much of the electorate is uneducated and gullible. A sizable portion is just full of hate. This country will be divided for the rest of my lifetime.

The early 1980s recession was a severe economic recession that affected much of the world between approximately the start of 1980 and 1982

The recession came at a bad time for banks because of a recent wave of deregulation.

The Depository Institutions Deregulation and Monetary Control Act of 1980 had phased out a number of restrictions on their financial practices, broadened their lending powers, and raised the deposit insurance limit from $40,000 to $100,000, which caused moral hazard.

Banks rushed into real estate lending, speculative lending, and other ventures as the economy soured.

The early 1990s recession describes the period of economic downturn affecting much of the Western world in the early 1990s. The impacts of the recession contributed in part to the 1992 U.S. presidential election victory of Bill Clinton over incumbent president George H. W. Bush.

R2 - you're discussing economic policy. That exit poll is asking a very personal question about how voters viewed their own family's economic situation now vs. 4 years ago. If that fucking Orange bastard wins, it will be because of that.

He could be on the verge of winning not just the Electoral college, but the god damn popular vote. He would not pull those numbers with just hardcore MAGA voters. Sure, that's a huge part of his base, but if he wins, it's because these voters felt their personal economy was better under Trump and that mattered more to them than Democratic institutionalism, abortion rights or hateful, racist rhetoric.

Maybe celebrities and country club Republicans like Liz Cheney were not the key to getting these voters on board.

Anyway, back to praying for a slim Kamala win. Somehow...???

I feel sick.

The Great Recession was a period of market decline in economies around the world that occurred from late 2007 to mid-2009.

At the time, the International Monetary Fund (IMF) concluded that it was the most severe economic and financial meltdown since the Great Depression.

Feelings aren't facts

How is a candidate who lost in 2016 and by a larger margin in 2020 gonna win. Strange

I didn't have a job in 2029. I was hired in 2022

If there wasn't so much else at stake, it would be amusing to think the deplorables will enjoy $2,00 a gallon gas, $1.00 a gallon milk and new Toyotas for $6,000.

R11??????? He didn’t lose in 2016. And lost by small electoral margins in 2020. It’s fkin Mexicans and black men. If he wins that will be the reason why.

He lost Teafake

Jesus Christ. You guys are so defensive. WHO are you trying to convince at this stage? The polls are closed. *I* know that Trumps economic policies will be a disaster. *I* know inflation is nearly back to normal levels and that economy is healthy -- especially when compared to other global economies. And *I* know that all Presidential administrations get too much credit and too much blame for the economy anyway. I'm not defending voting for Trump. But this willful disregard of what may shape up to be the primary reason that he (might) win is just so obtuse. If that's the way tonight goes, this will have to be a reckoning for the Democratic party.

We're gonna have to get out of our bubbles if we're going to win a national election. The majority of voters are not reading Axios and The Atlantic and discussing the nuances of policy. They're worrying about day-to-day economic issues and those, apparently, will trump (ahem) everything else.

It's true. You can't really run a campaign on social politics when people are struggling to afford to eat or put a roof over their head. It doesn't matter who started it or what the cause is. I think a lot of people in this country have felt financially backed into a corner and aren't seeing the bigger picture. You add the multi-faceted illegal immigration issue into the mix, and for most working-class Americans, any chance of a Kamala vote is a snowball's chance in hell, even if they agree with her on social issues.

R15 Big dummy wtf are you talking about. He lost in 2020 not 2016. that is what I stated big dummy. Perhaps you should reread my post big dummy.

You mean the only issue wasn't a woman's right to choose? We thought it was.

Liz Cheney is Dick Cheney's daughter. A hardline right-winger. Country club Republican? You just make shit up.

You lie. About everything.

Don't be obtuse, R20, you KNEW that "country club Republican" was shorthand for the pre-Trump old, world, wealthy, elite Republicans. Also, Dick Cheney is worth hundreds of millions. He and his family fit the description well. If the majority of Trump voters felt worse off economically in 2024 vs. 2020, they are not going to relate to some elite like Liz Cheney who, as her own last election showed, is irrelevant to the modern Republican party and to Republican-leaning independents.

YOU'RE LYING. Bush-Cheney paved the way for your Orange god

This election feels like a replay of 2004, when Bush got re-elected. You’ll note that no Republican defends that administration.

God, you are not capable of having a rational conversation, are you, R23? You clearly have reading comprehension issues. I'm not defending Trump and I'm sure has shit not defending Bush-Cheney. In fact, I may hate Bush even MORE for his weaponizing of homophobia to drive Republican turnout, HIS Federal Judicial appointments and the millions of innocent lives lost for his shameful war in Iraq. And, honestly, you can draw a throughline MUCH further back, all the way to Nixon's Southern Strategy through to Regan's brutal run on through to both Bush's. I AGREE, Trump's rise was enabled by those Republicans.

But, it is very clear that the hyperfocus on abortion and doing the RINO-Tours with Liz Cheney and Adam K (as hot as he may be) were not the right way to reach voters for whom their own personal economic situation (whether real or perceived) was going to trump all other issues. But, sure, hide your head in the sand while Trump might be on the verge of taking a second term and doing irreparable damage to our country for decades to come.

It’s inflation.

Newflash to OP: people lie in exit polls because they don't like to say "I voted for the white"

The issue was NOT inflation since inflation was as bad under Trump.. ALSO WAGES ROSE. What people liked about the Trump pandemic was being paid unemployment for not working. Why they would credit Trump with that when he was mostly concerned with letting businesses run PPP frauds is not clear, but that was only good time most twenty somethings have had.

What they really didn't care about was Trump adding $8 trillion to the national debt. They don't care if the economy collapses after they die, they just want America to borrow more and spend more so they don't have to pay taxes.

They also blamed Biden because the independent federal reserve raised interest rates beginning in 2020 that eventually led to a shut down in consumer credit. The credit card companies have been cracking down on people this year, which had a huge impact on how people felt about the economy.

Again there was a political motive behind the food companies raising prices, behind the fed raising interest rates: all of it was intended to cause pain to average folks so they would republican.

[quote] If she doesn't eek out a win,

Oh, [italic]eek.[/italic]

[quote] The issue was NOT inflation since inflation was as bad under Trump..

No it wasn’t.

Why is a foreign born welfare queen promising austerity measures against the US?