Listen up Marys!

I am very tempted to spend the day watching my favorite movies and eating junk food and not reading the news at all. It's rainy in Chicago anyway, a perfect day to stay home and hunker down.

I have a ton of work that's piled up, but I fear my concertation and will these next two days will be nonexistent.

Thanks, Captain Obvious!

Yes we know OP. Around 11 pm he will declare victory - or perhaps earlier. Nobody is going to fall for it except the MAGA cult.

I love the story as to how the Gore staff looked at the returns coming in during their election night and started to do the We Won happy dance.

While a bit premature it was a snappy and happy dance.

^They did win. That election was stolen.

Kamala’s campaign anticipates this and they will be on it with counter-messaging. It won’t penetrate Fox News but they’ll have to learn it the hard way like they did in 2012.

(btw 2012 was when the pollsters all said it was tied, and then Obama defeated Romney by 3+ points)

Who can forget Karl Rove's 2012 meltdown?

R7, wow, Megyn Kelly was so less wacko MAGA back then. She really turned ugly on the inside in recent years.

Always fun to roll that clip and watch Karl Rove going “yabbut blurp blurp” in the face of reality cascading all around him.

r8 she was certainly less anorexic in 2012

The good news is, he did it in 2020 already and he was the incumbent then. People are now used to it, so it won't come as a shock and won't have any effect whatsoever.

Check your memory, R4; it was the opposite. Gore called Bush to concede the election based on Bush's early lead in FL, but then as the Gore votes from Miami-Dade came in the networks moved FL from the Republican to the undecided column, and Gore called Bush to retract his concession, to Bush's intense annoyance.

Bush, of course, then got the presidency from the Supreme Court (thanks, Sandy!) and went on to create a disastrous war and crash the economy.

And the whole saga of course culminating in Bush's lawyers becoming Supreme Court justices eventually.

We can all agree Gore did not win. No one who knows anything about history could claim that Gore won. Just as only a moron could claim that Trump won in 2020.

R8 I don't even get why she's so MAGA now when he was so vile to her after she chaired a debate back in 2020.

I mean, I do get why, because she's always courted the right wing nutters, but even so.

I actually think privately she's not as right wing as her public persona; it's all about money.

[quote] We can all agree Gore did not win.

He would have won the Electoral College (by just a few hundred votes in FL) if the Supreme Court hadn't arbitrarily stopped the Florida recount. Not sure what your point is, except to validate Bush v Gore.

R1 reading the news on Election Day is always a waste of time. Nothing worth seeing will happen until 7:30, really 8pm when NC and PA polls close.

Also, who gives a shit if he announces he won. What democratic do you know, that’s going to be waiting for Trump to call this for us? The thread is dumb as hell. We will wait for the networks and polling experts to call it.

No one ever waits for the candidates to call it first.

r16 I'm more thinking about watching the news to follow potential MAGA shenanigans at polling locations. I worked the polls for several years and I fear there will be problems tomorrow.

R15 I think only morons go around celebrating a loss with the battle cry that we at least won the popular vote.

The only important question is who is sworn in as the winner.

No one gives a shit about who won the popular vote except for some’of the losers.

And constantly complaining that it’s unfair that the losers also have to win the EC is like complaining that you would have won a match if the final score did not count.

Yes, he will at around 10:30. He'll shuffle across the conference room, ask the journalists their undivided attention, and as he starts to open his anus mouth, the chyron of one channel will call North Carolina for Harris while the chyron of another will call Iowa for Harris.

People will be weirded out but that's what weird people do to regular people. And at the end of the presser, he'll be asked if he wants to react to the news that NC and IA have been called for Harris.

R19, regardless of the validity of your point (such as it is), where did I mention the popular vote? Bush won in 2000 solely by virtue of a highly dubious ruling by the Supreme Court, not by the Electoral College per se, which Gore would have won if the vote count had been completed.

[quote]We can all agree Gore did not win. No one who knows anything about history could claim that Gore won. Just as only a moron could claim that Trump won in 2020.

NOPE! The election counting of the votes was STOPPED by the courts. Bush is the who asked the Supreme Court to step in which they did. The actual count would have shown Gore to have been the winner if that didn't happen. And to prove their bias, their ruling was a one time decision that they said cannot be used again on any other case. Totally out of character from most Supreme Court decisions.

2000 was crazy. It was all dependent upon Florida and Florida was literally a statistical tie. A tiny, tiny fraction of 1%.

And it’s a cautionary tale: if a similar thing were to happen today, there is zero doubt that the Supreme Court majority would use the full scope of its power to make Trump our next President.