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After their son came out, this religious conservative couple went into a closet of their own

As soon as Greg McDonald Jr. saw his parents, he knew he was in trouble. His father stood waiting for him with his arms folded and his brow furrowed. Beside him was Greg’s mother, her eyes red and puffy.

“Quick, pretend you’re interested in me,” Greg Jr. told his friend Betsy as he steered the speedboat toward the dock at his parents’ riverfront home outside Grand Rapids, Michigan.

Greg Jr. had just taken a group of friends out for a rollicking boat ride. It was late in the summer of 2001, and he was about to head off to his first year of college. In just a few weeks the 17-year-old thought he’d be free.

But while Greg Jr. was away his father, a conservative Christian, had checked his computer’s search history. He’d heard stories of young men being corrupted by the internet and had discovered his son’s secret: visits to gay porn sites.

As Greg Jr. stepped off the boat with his friends, his father looked sternly at the group. “You need to leave,” he said to the other teens.

Once they were alone, the father turned toward his son.

“Are you—?” he asked.

“Yes, I am,” Greg Jr. said, cutting his father off as he walked past his parents toward their house.

“You could be an axe murderer, and we would always love you,” his father called out after him. “But we need to get you fixed.”

You may think you know what happened next. Greg Jr. prayed to God for deliverance. Pastors condemned him. Church members shunned him. Longtime friends disappeared, and he wrestled with shame because he felt like he had failed God and disobeyed the Bible.

But that’s not what happened to Greg Jr. That’s what happened to his parents, Greg Sr. and Lynn McDonald.

Their son’s admission would send the McDonalds on a journey that forced them to make agonizing choices about their faith and family. They would be thrust into the middle of a hidden crisis afflicting the conservative Christian community. And how they responded to their son’s admission would mushroom into a scandal — one that prompted two of the most prominent evangelical pastors in America to publicly question each other’s faith.

What triggered all these events was one fateful decision: After their son came out, the McDonalds went into their own closet.

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by Anonymousreply 37November 5, 2024 10:03 PM

[quote] Greg Jr. refused to be “fixed.”

[quote] A Christian counselor once asked him, “Don’t you want to go to heaven?”

[quote] “Not if you’re there,” Greg Jr. said.

Lol. Well that was bitchy!

by Anonymousreply 1November 3, 2024 4:06 PM

This part was amazing.

It's funny how his parents were supposedly the "Christians" in name, but their son was the one who portrayed those values in DEED.

[quote] She and Greg Sr. had remained closeted for more than a decade, struggling with shame, after they learned their son’s secret. But in 2013, she faced another battle: She was diagnosed with breast cancer.

[quote] “I had to put on my big girl pants and get through this,” Lynn says.

[quote] What followed was months of chemotherapy, multiple surgeries and her hair falling out in clumps. She spent much of her time in bed and barely had enough energy to move. Her husband stood by her, but another person soon appeared at her bedside: Greg Jr.

[quote] Their son was now 29 and living in Chicago after attending DePaul and the Fashion Institute of Technology in New York City. At Greg Jr.’s invitation, his parents moved briefly into his Chicago condo. He washed his mother’s laundry and tucked her in at night. He took her shopping and purchased stylish caps and scarves to cover her hair loss.

[quote] Lynn began thinking of the years she had spent raising her son in a home where he was afraid to be himself. The years she spent quoting scriptures at him that condemned his homosexuality. But here he was, showing her compassion. Instead of anger, he was embodying Christ’s example — loving those who had scorned him.

by Anonymousreply 2November 3, 2024 4:12 PM

Does the woman in OP's photo work at HOOTERS ? My heavens - the bazoomers on her !

by Anonymousreply 3November 3, 2024 4:14 PM

The Lord has given her much - -

by Anonymousreply 4November 3, 2024 4:16 PM

News flash: some women have big tits.

by Anonymousreply 5November 3, 2024 4:20 PM

[quote]Their son was now 29 and living in Chicago after attending DePaul and the Fashion Institute of Technology in New York City.

Someone's going to have the snazziest death shroud in the neighborhood.

by Anonymousreply 6November 3, 2024 4:20 PM

R5 Those aren't classified as 'big'. Those are gigantic.

by Anonymousreply 7November 3, 2024 4:23 PM

[quote] Stanley then proceeded to defend the conference, and the McDonalds. He said North Point wasn’t backtracking on its belief that biblical marriage is between a man and woman. But he argued that evangelicals must deal with what was happening to LGBTQ+ children in their churches because “86%” of LGBTQ+ people in the US grow up in church, “but they leave at twice the rate of straight people.”

[quote] Stanley cited the McDonalds’ relationship with their son, and the isolation faced by many LGBTQ+ youth in the evangelical world. He also distanced his church from Mohler’s brand of Christianity.

[quote] “Bottom line, that version of Christianity draws lines. And Jesus drew circles,” Stanley said. “He drew circles so large and included so many people in his circle that it consistently made religious leaders nervous.”

This is an interesting conversation to be had.

[quote] Why did the McDonalds attract such withering criticism? The debate over homosexuality in the church is not new. Why was their public support for their son and other families like theirs so infuriating to many conservative Christians?

[quote] Gushee, the Christian ethicist, has a theory.

[quote] “They chose love over dogma,” he says. “The whole premise of their ministry is, ‘We’re not trying to tell you how to interpret scripture. But the bottom line is, love your child, stay in a relationship with them and go on the journey with them.’”

Exactly.

by Anonymousreply 8November 3, 2024 4:28 PM

[quote] By this time Greg Jr. had moved away to attend DePaul University in Chicago. He and his parents barely spoke. He rebuffed their attempts to cite scripture. Their occasional visits were so strained that their son avoided being alone with them and surrounded himself with friends.

Greg Jr. and his friends...

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by Anonymousreply 9November 3, 2024 4:31 PM

There are no gods. Religion is just fear of death; it all deals with not really dying.

by Anonymousreply 10November 3, 2024 4:36 PM

I'm sorry to say it, but the dad is SO much hotter than the son!

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by Anonymousreply 11November 3, 2024 4:40 PM

Yes - fairy tale religion is about the promise of eternal life, and that you will see your loved ones again on the “other side.”

It’s a baby blanket, essentially.

by Anonymousreply 12November 3, 2024 4:41 PM

You can’t argue with god that’s why it is so useful. Don’t try and let the Christian’s worry about it.

by Anonymousreply 13November 3, 2024 4:47 PM

People in civilized countries find these stories incredible.

by Anonymousreply 14November 3, 2024 4:51 PM

R11, I couldn’t disagree more.

by Anonymousreply 15November 3, 2024 4:52 PM

Good Lord R11 did the son get cancer too and lose his hair?

by Anonymousreply 16November 3, 2024 5:54 PM

[Quote] After their son came out, this religious conservative couple went into a closet of their own

Oh my god, they went into the closet the moment he was born? How did they know he was gay??? Did his little peepee get hard when the doctor held him?????

by Anonymousreply 17November 3, 2024 5:57 PM

Does the dad have any idea that gay men will be perving over him?

by Anonymousreply 18November 3, 2024 6:11 PM

[quote]R16 Good Lord [R11] did the son get cancer too and lose his hair?

And why are the knees of his pants all worn though ? !

by Anonymousreply 19November 3, 2024 6:18 PM

He was cuter younger. I lost interest.

by Anonymousreply 20November 3, 2024 6:30 PM

R11, I thought so, too.

And why is a 40-year-old man still referring to himself as "Jr."? And why is a 40-year-old man wearing ripped jeans?

Besides my two, snarky questions, their story is beautiful. Love how welcoming they became to Greg, his husband, his friends (Shout out to the lesbian bartender), and that poor Polish waif.

by Anonymousreply 21November 3, 2024 6:39 PM

I knew that bartender.

by Anonymousreply 22November 3, 2024 6:46 PM

That little bartender girl was me.

by Anonymousreply 23November 3, 2024 7:42 PM

Mom doesn’t have bug boobs— she’s just overweight.

by Anonymousreply 24November 3, 2024 8:20 PM

It's just the fabric, makes them tatas look yuge.

by Anonymousreply 25November 3, 2024 8:24 PM

Tune in Tokyo!

by Anonymousreply 26November 3, 2024 8:36 PM

R19,

Sucking off the church choir.

by Anonymousreply 27November 3, 2024 8:37 PM

What happened to the cute son in R9?

by Anonymousreply 28November 3, 2024 9:13 PM

They sure had to do a lot of mental gymnastics to get their son back into their lives. But, it shows that they love the son and I'm sure that means everything to the son.

by Anonymousreply 29November 3, 2024 9:32 PM

[quote] Mom doesn’t have bug boobs

by Anonymousreply 30November 4, 2024 2:03 PM

A surprisingly good article from CNN. Thanks, OP.

by Anonymousreply 31November 4, 2024 2:35 PM

[quote]People in civilized countries find these stories incredible.

So do most Americans.

by Anonymousreply 32November 5, 2024 9:37 PM

Religious fundies need to stop living their lives by a book of Bronze Age fairy tales and join the 21st Century.

by Anonymousreply 33November 5, 2024 9:38 PM

The son is hot. Both in his early college age photo and with that stache at the end.

But seriously.....I'm glad the parents came around. I'm not very religious but....acceptance and love seems to be what Christ was all about.

by Anonymousreply 34November 5, 2024 9:46 PM

[quote]Religious fundies need to stop living their lives by a book of Bronze Age fairy tales and join the 21st Century.

Religious fundies don't believe a word of what they profess, based on their support of a presidential candidate who gleefully violates every one of the Ten Commandments pretty much daily.

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by Anonymousreply 35November 5, 2024 9:50 PM

r35 they pick and choose, it's all about justifying their own bigotry.

by Anonymousreply 36November 5, 2024 9:52 PM

These to Christians are stupid miserable nasty cunts. Fuck them. Such navel gazers.

by Anonymousreply 37November 5, 2024 10:03 PM
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