3 days until the election. How are you feeling, my fellow DLers?

TWO days, you lyin' whore!

Sorry, r1!!

Now that that's out of DL's system ...

Kamala is 🔥

At least we'll have a president who's easy on the eyes, eh, EL?

I am justttttt on the cusp of being optimistic.

I can’t believe how quickly we filled that first thread!

This is very interesting:

R7 I agree with Amy Siskind - that’s kind of heartbreaking. What kind of a relationship are you in if you can’t tell your partner honestly who you’re voting for?

Doug Emhoff is one lucky person R4!

R7- I pray that this is true but I am also horrified what we have become as a country. For me it keeps coming back to how close this is, and should not be- the fact that this criminal and sociopath could even run, and now we have women having "back alley voting" -like abortions back in the day. Having to whisper their votes like some 3rd class citizen to keep their likely racist, homophobic, MAGA husband happy. We are disgusting creatures. If this guy fucking wins, I cannot fathom where this country will be in 2 years. This is the first time I think where I can see that nothing is what it seems, and what appears to be a high stakes election, really is signifying some truly alarming aspects of the state of humanity itself, much less politics. There are just TOO MANY people with minds from 1880.

We'll have a sparkling new president this time next week. 😊

Too many straight, WHITE NEN, r10.

Get it right. These straight, WHITE uneducated pricks are the reason we have that fat orange cunt and the entirety of the GQP.

They bask in their hate and ignorance. It’s a badge of honor to them to be the dumbest, most hateful and bigoted pieces of shit on the planet, all the whil screaming, “MURRICA!” And waving their dumb flags.

These pricks make me sick. If anyone should have to “prove” they belong in a civilized society, it’s these cuntflaps.

I've seen enough.

This is over. She's stayed steady but he's imploding, as are the people around them. From Trump in the last week we've seen island of floating garbage, blowing the microphone, rumblings about social security and medicare diminution, whether they like it or not, nine guns in her face and RFK Jr. fixing American health care. For me it's as much the visible chaotic collapse of the Trump campaign as the rise of the Harris campaign.

It's over. She's on the glide path, it's just a question of how the thing lands. I can't see a crash. His behaviour is so bad it now has to turn people away, not toward.

[quote]R7 I agree with Amy Siskind - that’s kind of heartbreaking. What kind of a relationship are you in if you can’t tell your partner honestly who you’re voting for?

I'm guessing these are the Evangelical Christian females who are in "traditional marriages" where they must do what their domineering husbands or fathers tell them to do. Obey their orders like a hostage. Wouldn't that be an awful way to live? There's a lot more of these people than we may realize. The Kamala campaign made an ad about this with Julia Roberts doing the voice over. Here it is at the link:

Totally agree with everything you've said R10! These are crazy times we live in.

It's been 3,419 days since Trump rode down that fucking escalator. Enough! Just... enough.

In Oregon we get our ballots in the mail. A MAGA wife would have no chance to vote differently than her husband.

And I feel like my lifespan has decreased by 3,419 days, r15.

[quote] This is over. She's stayed steady but he's imploding

I thought similarly (though cautiously) in 2016, but then Trump won by a hair. What gives me somewhat more confidence this year is the hard numbers from early voting, majorities of women voters, along with the continuing pressure of Dobbs. And no equivalent to the 11th-hour Comey letter—if anything, Trump's MSG rally and subsequent statements are his own Comey letter.

This time next week, we'll be saying Madame President Elect. But the question is, what kind of violence and chaos will we get from the orange turd?

Silver lining is November 26, his sentencing date in the NY case.

I hear you and all we can do is hope R18.

Kamala has been flawless. Win or lose - I will always remember that. I think she would be a spectacular President. I have hope.

I'm hearing Trump already has a President-Elect-In-Exile seal ready to go.

He just needed to dust it off, r21.

I am nauseously optimistic.

I might be totally wrong, but I think there won’t be the blowback we are thinking there will be from the Dumpers. His crowd at the rallies look pooped and done. I don’t think there is any enthusiasm for doing what happened on Jan. 6. And I think people like Mike Johnson will pay him lip service but will be glad he’s gone. He’s a loose cannon who has brought down the entire Repuke party with his antics. This will be especially true if Harris wins handily.

Who knows though…

I agree with R24 mostly. If anything happens, it will be isolated. I can't see another Jan 6. The MAGAs are tired and the Republicans in hiding will move swiftly to try to stamp out Trumpism. They will understand if there's a path back to the White House, Trumpism isn't it.

[quote]For the husband is the head of the wife, even as Christ is the head of the church: and he is the saviour of the body. Ephesians 5:23

R7 R8 Although it's mentioned, I think the underappreciated narrative of this election is subjugation of women vs. their independent agency. Of course is post-Roe, but it's more than that. The MAGA cultural hegemony really is establishing the Republic of Gilead. Women, including those who are in the Christo-Nationalist subculture, may well show what agency looks like... as they fill out their ballot.

Time to turn the page.

Pieces like these are doing NOTHING to quiet my anxiety.

We are going to win!

R27 I am disgusted by how fucking biased that rag has shown itself to be.

700 Americans? What a massive sample. Over 3 years? So, 2 years and 9 months before Kamala's surprise nomination..

After this election cycle, I will NEVER again subscribe to the NYT R27. Just like I would NEVER purchase a Tesla. They've forever ruined their brands. I know there's still some good reporters at NYT, but I don't want to reward their paper's bad behavior with my money.

I know we are are a-wishin' and hopin. But when I am brutally honest with myself I feel Trump will be re-elected.

I will comfort myself knowing that this is the worse that can happen to him. Trapped in dreary Washington in a relentless, high-pressure job at age 78. Without his former posse to delegate things to. He'll be inheriting a shaky economy and a very troubled world.

The Deplorables will suffer worse, as their blue collar McJobs disappear due to recession, inflation and a derelict President obsessed with revenge.

This ain't 2016.

R31 the economy is booming you dolt

[quote] He'll be destroying a robust economy

FIFY

R32 Have you been paying attention? Draconian tariffs, deporting immigrant workforce, disrupting the social safety net.... economists project a huge negative economic impact if Trump is elected and (with the Supreme Court's permissions) implement his plans with unchecked executive power.

R31 is the "It'll be fine if Trump wins" troll.

[quote] Get it right. These straight, WHITE uneducated pricks are the reason we have that fat orange cunt and the entirety of the GQP.

I am equally bothered by the JD Vances. The men with an elite education who are terminally online and feeding misogyny, homophobia and conspiracy to the uneducated. This gives them power and wealth but it destroys the country, the credibility of elite colleges, it impoverishes the rubes who buy the lies, it divides us further and, of course, it takes women back to the 1800s. It's so achingly cynical.

Aaaaand he just said he wouldn't mind if someone took a literal shot at the fake news. Says he has his bulletproof glass, they don't and he's okay with that.

Well....well....welll. All that water carried for him and he wants of you to leave his rallies in a body bag.

Please please sweet baby jesus make him lose.

I just hope it is a landslide win for Harris and the race doesn't get kicked to the Supreme Court. Cause we all know what they will do! Hopefully, not another 2000-Bush v. Gore!

I’m drunk at noon

[quote]Republicans in hiding will move swiftly to try to stamp out Trumpism

What on Earth makes you think that today's cowardly GQP will do [itlaic]anything[/italic] to get rid of Shitler? They've had literally a dozen opportunities ranging from Impeachment 1 to any of the half-dozen or so court cases in which he is liable to go to prison, and they've protected and coddled him at every opportunity. There is only one way for the country to rid itself of Trump, and even that promises more derangement and martyrdom for the MAGAts who are going [bold]nowhere.[/bold]

A whole hell of a lot better than I did when it was 12 days out. The Selzer poll in Iowa, combined with the implosion of the MSG rally and Shitler's campaign has done wonders for my mental state.

Eyes on the prize. We must win on Tuesday. Vote like she's down by 10.

I was worried earlier because the Republicans seemed so calm and confident, but something has shifted in them putting them into panic mode. So I'm feeling a little better. Now I'm just worried how the deplorables will react if it is a close election.

I may get some champagne.

As Churchill said - In victory, I deserve it; in defeat, I need it.

You aren't fooling anyone, r31.

Someone smarter than me please have Beverly Sutphin call Trump up to ask if she's through to The Cocksucker Residence!

The media has ALWAYS been the problem here, since 2016 (remember the breathless reporting and empty podiums while waiting for him to show up?). Trump is good for their bottom line. Joe Biden was not because we had competence, not chaos. Most people don't want to pay a nickel for news content, so they have to generate clicks with Trump content. What will they do once he goes away?

I’m with R41 and R42. A couple weeks ago I was more full of rising dread. Today I’m 90% optimistic and 10% worried..

Appreciating these threads.

Very scared but hopeful.

A lot of us are anxious and worried because we understand the stakes and love our country and democracy.

MAGAts are brain dead morons that see this as entertainment and owning the libs. I would otherwise feel sorry for them if they weren't so destructive to everyone else on the planet. So fuck them sideways with a rusty chainsaw.

[quote]And I think people like Mike Johnson will pay him lip service but will be glad he’s gone.

Too late. He and Rubio and Cruz and Graham and Haley and everyone who's lashed themselves to his mast over the last decade need to learn: EVERYTHING TRUMP TOUCHES DIES.

That's their legacy. Period. Not some bill they helped pass in 2009 or whatnot. The only thing people remember about the German politicians who supported Hitler is just that, not their vote on some civic matter in 1932.

I'm trying to be confident, but on the way home from Trader Joe's yesterday I stopped at a dive bar for a beer. (Actually, two beers.) I never go out to bars any more, much less during the day, but I just needed to take the edge off and I don't smoke copious amounts of pot, silly, so a bar it was.

What did you do, alone at the bar?

Kamala.needs to put every MAGAT politician on trial for insurrection.

[quote] Kamala needs to fire Merrick Garland on Day 1.

FIFY R53!

I feel confident because Trump has performed so poorly. Even Iowa is sick of that fat orange bitch.

If you hear pundits saying "it's too close to call" about some random red state on election night, you'll know it's over even before we get to the swing states.

I am so looking forward to next week's "National Exorcism Day!"

🎵"He's gone where the goblins go. Below, below, below, below ..."

I can't wait for Wolf Blitzer to give me my first: "And from Backwater County in Pennsylvania we see Harris taking an early lead. Now we want to remind you there are still 750 polls to report, but in this one, it's seven votes Harris and four votes for Trump. Gloria Borger, what does this tell us?"

Gloria: (in my fantasy) Well, nothing, stupid.

I don’t know if I am optimistic.

What I am, however, is so goddamn proud of everyone who swallowed their fears and fought as hard as they could.

No one more so than Kamala.

If we don’t win, it won’t be because we got complacent.

R59 how confident do you feel?

Reading this thread makes me feel better. Thanks.

R59 I am coming around to this thinking too.

I had been thinking that given Trump and his follower's shameless disregard for the constitution and our norms that if he won it might be the end of the Republic. The Supreme Court's baffling rightwing activism contributed to my concerns. The international authoritarian techbro submission to autocracy also problematic.

But I've seen Harris rise to the occasion, and I've seen so very many Americans respond to the challenge (polls showing Harris voters are "more enthusiastic" to vote than MAGA voters.) I think Harris will win. But if she doesn't I think America and Americans can fight against authoritarians. If Trump wins on Tuesday, the next chapter in the struggle for liberty will continue.

When we fight, we win.

On wednesday the only " job " he'll have.

I'll be playing this all month long after she wins.

I’ve been feeling positive since July. Agree, Kamala is 🔥. It’s like she lit a match to that POS.

[quote]Mike Johnson will pay him lip service

Pics please.

[quote]Pieces like these are doing NOTHING to quiet my anxiety.

Forget about it. It's the New York Times. It might as well be Fox News.

I'm extremely anxious. Feel as if I'm waiting to find out the results of a biopsy.

Yes, I've seen countless of tweets on all the early voting and the female/male ratio. I've seen the new Iowa poll. I've seen Trump's "it's going bad" comments.

Doesn't matter. Never underestimate the stupidity of the American people.

The MSG rally backlash and now the Iowa poll make me think Kamala will pull it off, and she'll be declared the president-elect sooner than Biden was in 2020.

Please R69 yes!

[quote]What did you do, alone at the bar?

Did the NYT Spelling Bee and read Datalounge on my phone, of course!

You are my kind of poster R71.

NYT still shamelessly changing headlines to make them even more pro Trump. I used to track these myself because I get up at 5 and the headline I'd see at 5 would be different to the on there at noon. I've cancelled by sub months ago. I know others have too. Yet, they persist with this BS.

I am utterly flabbergasted by the New York Times- beyond dismayed--

I linked in another thread but this video shows some wise repubs and why they are not voting for Trump again

Their comments are sad and scary reminder as to why this is so important

Well, r74, I watched that on the other thread and I gave to say that I was surprised to hear several of those people say that project 2025 scared them and they were worried about a dictatorship.

Quite a few also cited Vance as a negative for his flip flopping and lack of experience.

I’m glad something finally managed to break through to them. Sounds like they started paying attention to what he was saying instead of just laughing it off like they normally do.

You know things are bad when the fucking DRUDGE REPORT is more accurately covering Trump than the New York Times.

Elon gearing up for the Results and the lawsuits about the stolen election-

Drudge has been a never Trumper since 2015.

I accept the terms of Elmo's contract as stated in that tweet.

I hope there's someone with deep pockets who sues him when he reneges.

I think Harris will win both the popular vote & the EC, but I’m really worried about Speaker Johnson pulling some certification shenanigans so that the House of Representatives can install Trump as President. I don’t see how the country could tolerate that and yet I’m not sure what could be done.

[quote] Speaker Johnson pulling some certification shenanigans so that the House of Representatives can install Trump as President

He won't be Speaker. If Kamala takes the EC, there is 0 chance of the House staying red. It will be Speaker Jeffries, VP Harris, President Biden and good luck to Agent Orange.

As long as Kamala is still VP on the 6th, there’s very little Johnson can do to mess things up. If Biden dies there may be shenanigans as the new house member swearing in doesn’t start until mid-day Friday January the third.

I'm calm and hope to stay this way. I feel Kamala will win.

Look I agree we have a lot of stupid nasty venal unprincipled illogical voters in this country. But, having said that, we cannot ignore the role the mainstream media has played in normalizing him, sanitizing him, and covering up his lies. There used to be a time when the media would challenge a candidate in real time. And the ads would be called out for their misleading dishonest content. But now it's a fucking free for all, and the GOP has weaponized all the low information voters. You tell me what kind of a political party depends on lies and misleading voters, and in 2021 and right now plots and schemes to literally ignore and overthrow the will of the voters to install a convicted felon, an adjudicated rapist, and the man who conspires with our foreign adversaries, and instigated an insurrection? A political party that depends on election deniers and manipulation, intimidation, and bribery to enlist the involvement of members of Congress and other government officials who totally ignore their oath? It sickens me.

It’s really entirely the media’s fault by a long shot. Every prominent Republican was repulsed by Trump, and most were on the record in their opposition towards him during the 2016 primary. It’s genuinely scandalous that the ones who have remained steadfast in those beliefs about his unfitness and immorality number only in the dozens. What Trump has laid bare is the fact that politicians truly stand for nothing but personal power, wealth, and being the center of attention. The Republican Party today stands for nearly nothing of what it stood for a decade ago. “Conservative” is just a euphemism now — they’re for more government, less freedom, and an unbridled surveillance state.

I don’t doubt that democratic politicians are also craven and blindly ambitious, that they would follow the party line if bucking it meant being ostracized or voted out of office. Thankfully I can’t think of a charismatic figure waiting in the wings to bring that to bear on the D side. Hopefully I don’t live long enough to see a trump-like freak come along and enthrall / corrupt the Democratic Party. Because what has happened to the republicans is pitiable; each of them individually is an embarrassment and will go to their graves knowing as much.

His own VP called him America’s Hitler. lol

The polls are always wrong. If they call NC and GA early for Harris, it’s all over.

Tuesday feels like lifetimes away.

Why would you say an EC Harris win means zero chance the House stays red? NY always gives EC votes to Dems but enough House seats there went Repub to give them control.

No matter what, my fellow DLers, I will be here on Tuesday night, all night if needed, to live post the election results. Much like I've done over the past two decades I've been on the board.

We will get through this, and we will get through it together.

And at some point, we will all call each bother some variation of cunt / Boris / doomsayer / MAGA and/or MARY!

I already can’t look away from the constant coverage on CNN & MSNBC, even though it’s the same stuff over & over. It is kind of fun watching the orange fool melt down over the last few days. Momentum is definitely shifting to Kamala.

R90 I’ll be here Tues evening. I’m counting on you!

I can’t help but think that if TPTB had let Mighty Joe stay at the top of the ticket, we wouldn’t be in such a stressful nail-biter situation. A dump/joe rematch would have been signed, sealed, delivered a month ago. The American people declared their decision loud and clear four years ago and their preference between the two is today, as then, plainly obvious and decisive. Instead we’re here with an untested lady candidate in a complete toss-up race. Thanks, Pelosi.

I will be in and out on Tuesday. I’m working the polls in Ohio and it’s a long ass day.

We have to be there at 530am and don’t get to leave until around 9pm.

We set up the booths and tables the night before, but none of the equipment is out. That all gets done in the morning and the polls have to be open at 630am.

So I won’t be able to check in until lunch (whenever I get scheduled for that). I expect we will be slammed, which makes the day go much faster.

[quote]Instead we’re here with an untested lady candidate in a complete toss-up race.

She's a candidate, not a "lady candidate." You sound a bit MAGA around the edges.

If Harris carries North Carolina and Georgia she can afford to lose Michigan. She will need Arizona and Nevada, but I think she will have those. The reason Michigan worries me is because the Arab population, the largest in the United States outside the Middle East, is not in favor of Trump just because of the Palestine question alone. There is also a cultural bias against voting for a woman for President. And unfortunately a lot of Black and Latino men share that bias. The fact is the " Puerto Rico is an island of garbage," was a huge gift. It has given a big boost to Harris support among Latinos.

I think Trump’s reliance on getting the votes of those who don’t tend to vote (non-college educated males) will fail just like it did in 2020.

Males tend to be the least likely to actually vote while women tend to be the most likely. So much depends on whether white women, who always vote the GOP by a majority, vote for Kamala

R98, I was looking for a graph that would show percentage demos for women by race, but this comparison is interesting. It's dated August of '23.

I'd say with reproductive rights on the table and Trump stating he was going to protect women whether they like it or not, these numbers are probably no longer valid as I would think they'd skew even higher now. I know early voting says women were turning up at a higher rate than men, so I suppose we'll find out on Tues. There may just be a silent majority of women voters for Kamala.

Thank you r90!!

For all its fault, DL attracts some high-quality posters.

Thank you R95; you're doing the Lord's work! One (albeit minor) factor in Dems favor is that gas prices are currently somewhat low. Even though absolutely no president ever controls gas prices, high gas prices make people feel cranky and want to lash out - on top of the already high food prices. So I'm hopeful that even these small head winds make the undecided, the indifferent, the checked out voters decide that they'll give the good looking woman a chance and not a guy that looks like he escaped from the memory care wing of the local senior center.

It's probably due to the ending of daylight savings, but I woke up around 2:30 this morning and couldn't fall back to sleep. I am tempted to completely unplug today and just read books and walk around outside.

I don’t know what to do with myself. Been like this for several days. Not working at the moment but going to try to get some job searching tasks done today - even though I doubt anyone else is functioning much. I imagine we’re all just doing the bare minimum at the moment.

Today feels like a good day to stay home and eat junk good and watch movies.

I’m up. Watching the news recaps. Wondering how many cups of coffee I’ll go through today.

Oh!

I was just thinking: I am convinced that most MAGAs would rescind the 19th Amendment if it were possible to put it to a vote.

The past eight years have been beyond depressing in what they have revealed about the American electorate.

We're about to be unburdened from what has been. Or rather, unburdened from that orange has-been. Just one more day.

[quote]@NYTGuildTech – the union that powers the technology behind election coverage at The New York Times – has walked off the job in a ULP strike that threatens Election Day."

Thank you, r90.

and r95, a dispatch from the voting lines. Yay!

R95 you are a true DL hero. May you see many, many women on Tuesday.

r95 I worked the polls in Ohio for many years. It's probably changed a great deal over the years, but it is indeed a long day. (My first election was 2008.) Good luck! May I ask what county?

I feel better when I see stuff like this:

Really like r13's post

R112, it’s Hamilton County. The burbs, not downtown.

Bless you, R115. If I was American I'd be out with you, but to echo what's been said, us Brits are right behind our American Cousins in dearly wanting Dump gone. He's intensely detested over here too (and most other places).

I'm off Wednesday off so I can be up through the night with you all, in solidarity.

Well, the NYT won't be particularly missed, but imagine all of them wandering around feeling the world is cut off from them. Quite delightful.

Some morning smiles 1/2

[quote][R112], it’s Hamilton County. The burbs, not downtown.

That's Cincinnati, which as I recall is very conservative & very Catholic and just south of Middletown, home of creepy JD Vance. Not downtown, but not exactly friendly territory either. Stay safe R95

2/2.

[quote] a ULP strike that threatens Election Day

MARY!

Get ready to arrest the fuck out of this round of Trump election deniers.

It looks like I'll be glued to DL all day.

r121 They meant Election Day COVERAGE, but it got cut off.

[quote]I can’t help but think that if TPTB had let Mighty Joe stay at the top of the ticket, we wouldn’t be in such a stressful nail-biter situation. A dump/joe rematch would have been signed, sealed, delivered a month ago. The American people declared their decision loud and clear four years ago and their preference between the two is today, as then, plainly obvious and decisive. Instead we’re here with an untested lady candidate in a complete toss-up race. Thanks, Pelosi.

What a fucking idiot is R94, and how he stinks of disingenuity.. Referring to Biden as 'Joe' and 'Mighty Joe' as if they were chummy referring to Harris as a 'lady candidate,' blaming everything on 'TPTB,' bandying about 'the American people,' and completely oblivious to Biden's accelerated physical and mental deterioration.

'The American people' have shown their idiocy in the past in voting for this dangerous imbecile Trump and they will do again, in alarmingly significant numbers, and yet he wants us to think that a Biden victory was certain -- in the proverbial wet paper bag that Biden couldn't begin to poke his way out of in the first debate.

R94 was trying to be funny. See the ie at the bottom. Sarcasm can be hard to read and not every joke lands.

Girls, girls, we're all cunts on edge.

Aw, thanks, r116! I completely understand. I’ve been pulling for the UK since Brexit and keep thinking you all will pull out of that morass sooner rather than later.

Yes, Cincinnati is a lot more conservative than I would like. The Catholic thing is mostly the west side, from what I understand.

Disclaimer- I am not a native to the city. I grew up on a farm in rural Ohio. Everything I know about Cincinnati, I’ve had to learn from living here and what the natives have told me.

Anyway, we only have about 5 or 6 thousand registered voters in the precincts our location serves. Mostly white, older voters with a 60-70% turnout on Election Day. I have no way to know how many in our precincts voted early or by mail.

We don’t anticipate trouble. We may get one or two assholes (men, in every past incident) shouting about what acceptable ID is. They vote for that shit but think THEY shouldn’t have to show acceptable ID to vote.

Anyway, I know most of the people working the polls with me. We’ve done it for a few years together, so we should be fine.

But getting up at 430 am will suck majorly. And not in a good way.

Haha very true R128. I was here starting new threads for the 2020 election when it was all quiet out! Happy to be here and nothing compared to the work you and others are putting in for the fight.

First polls open in Vermont at 5 a.m.!

I interpreted r94 as saying that a Biden/Trump match would have had a decisive result, which would be better for the country than a 50/50 split.

[quote]Girls, girls, we're all cunts on edge.

And the tension about the election is making it twice as bad!

Wake me when it’s over

I need to get out of the house.

I’m going to see if my favorite fuck buddy wants to smoke some pot and have sex for hours and completely ignore the news on election night.

enormous rally in philly today

A Democratic lawmaker has a MAGA costume in their office in case there is another Jan. 6.

R137 that’s so fucking stupid. There can’t be another J6 because Trump doesn’t run the Executive Branch or national mall. Biden can shut down any attempt to host a rally and given Trump’s dwindling crowd sizes, he would struggle to muster up a mob for round 2. Too many (actually too few) of them caught a federal charge over 2020.

If he loses and we win back the House, he’s cooked!

The current Speaker isn’t going to allow the lax policing that happened in 2021. There will be no repeat.

[quote]Looking for an early bellwether? Watch Virginia. If it's called before 8 PM ET, we're looking at a very good night. Between 8 PM and midnight, hold on to your hats. If it's still in question and hasn't been called by midnight, Harris is in trouble.

A good bellwether will also be how quickly Trump declares his victory. The earlier he does it, the better the end result will be for Kamala.

The last bellwether county is Clallam County in Washington. There were 19 bellwether counties before the 2020 election, but for reasons that are still unknown, 18 of the 19 predicted Trump would win. Only Clallam went with Biden.

Likely

Does anyone have a clear sense or recollection which of the battleground states tend to be faster or slower in reporting on election night?

PA will be last

[quote]Neither Donald Trump nor Kamala Harris appears to be running away with the contest here. In dozens of interviews across this lush slice of the Olympic Peninsula, support for the two was just about evenly split. Events that once might have given someone pause or pried loose a shaky partisan or two — the attempted assassination of Trump, Harris’ strong debate performance — have evidently passed with nary a ripple.

Sounds like DL:

[quote]Voters weren’t just dug into their positions. Many couldn’t fathom how anyone could possibly think any differently.

Here's a thread about that, r144.

Nah, VA always freaks me out. It starts producing results early... and almost always shows "unexpected" Republican totals... and it looks like "oh no! VA might go red!!" and then Fairfax country comes in later and Dems win it by 4-5%

Fully expecting the heavens to open and the sky to be as blue as on 9/11 when the election is called for Kamala. We deserve this. After nine long years, we deserve this so much.

Let's be CNN on election night:

"I'm Wolf Blitzer and with one out of 329 polls reporting, Donald Trump has a commanding lead of 72 to 33 but we want to remind you, there are still 329 polls still to report across the state.... "

r150 I don't want to steal your idea, but "Let's be CNN on election night" really does call for its own thread. I need some levity during this nerve-racking wait!

Expect the calls for her to pardon Trump to start a second or two after the election is called.

If anyone asks her press secretary about a pardon for Trump, the answer will be “I really don’t care, do you?”

She can't pardon Trump in the NY case. It is state, not federal. How many times do I have to say this?

No one said anything about the NY case. The Chutkan one will be far worse for him, sentencing-wise.

He's not getting a day of jail time in NY, he doesn't need a pardon for that one.

If he ever is convicted of anything and sentenced substantially, I hope no one pardons him. The message must be sent. No one is above the law.

Except who the Supreme Court puts above it, of course.

I dunno, I’d rather chance club fed than a state prison.

The NY case is the only one in which he's been convicted. He could die before the others go forward, which would make the pardon talk irrelevant. But I take your point that the punditry class will be going on and on and on about pardoning him (because the media needs Dump for clicks and ratings to prop up their failing business).

He's not going to die anytime soon. He basically has nothing to do but golf starting Tuesday, and his parents lived forever.

[quote]He basically has nothing to do but golf starting Tuesday, and his parents lived forever.

Why does God hate America?

I haven't been following the House or Senate races. Is there a chance we could loose one or both of those? It sure would be nice to have the President, Senate and House all Democrat, for a change.

House almost definitely yes, Senate likely no. Tester fucked it in Montana.

New Marist poll Harris 51% Trump 47%

Outside of MOE

[quote]“In new PBS @NewsHour poll, Harris is at 45% among white voters here at the close – this is better than either Obama or Biden’s performance on their way to winning a majority. When all the votes are counted Harris’ majority will be slightly better than Obama 2012 and Biden 2020”

R161, you know why. 🫤

Guys- Why do 1/2 of these sound like Trump will win easily, and the other like Kamala will win- easily.

This has to be over soon.

What kind of world can even concieve of this orange PIG getting this level of votes.

We are basically cavemen.

I think we're all changing our minds moment to moment, r167, based on the latest thing we read. We're all losing it, me included.

R164 what is MOE?

R169 Margin of Error, I'm guessing.

[quote] what is MOE?

Moe Howard (born Moses Horwitz)

Last stops

MOE = Margin of Error

R168- YES!!!!! Based on the newscycle of the day I go from PUMPED and SO POSITIVE to hopeless and defeated- Today it is the latter

So much of this is the media fucking with us- I am nearly positive of this.

Trump's interview with ABC news yesterday makes it sound like their internal polling is NOT showing this is theirs, at all-

He really is losing it and he is showing his cards-

STROKE! STROKE! STROKE! STROKE! STROKE! STROKE! STROKE! STROKE! STROKE! STROKE! STROKE!

[quote]He's not going to die anytime soon. He basically has nothing to do but golf starting Tuesday, and his parents lived forever.

That's no guarantee of Trump's longevity. Three of his four siblings are already dead.

I'll never understand it. A charming, intelligent, pretty, funny, experienced, humane woman versus a giant belligerent, bronzer-spackled, smelly, rage-filled tub of goo, and they're TIED. Even if I live forever, it will never be enough time to accept this.

Never underestimate the power of sexism, r177.

The energy is with Kamala!! She's peaking at exactly the right time.

HIlarious to watch Trump give speeches to half-filled rooms.

After working retail on and off over the years, I’m more inclined to go with our old standby of “people are nuts”.

R174, He's threatening to unleash violence if he doesn't win.

We're ready for it!

[quote] [R7] I agree with Amy Siskind - that’s kind of heartbreaking. What kind of a relationship are you in if you can’t tell your partner honestly who you’re voting for?

Couples fight over things far less important and consequential than Presidential elections. You gotta pick your battles.

[quote]A charming, intelligent, pretty, funny, experienced, humane woman

Sexist, if benign compared to most sexism.

If Kamala wins big, I don't think there's going to be much violence other than isolated incidents (which we're already seeing). And when she wins big, I don't see fat cunt Ginni Thomas and the Heritage Foundation putting up the cash to bus/fly in MAGAts from Flyoverstan to riot for loser Trump.

Dee and Dan Plorable will slink back to their trailers, but we'll never hear the end of their online tough talk and claims of rigging/cheating.

I had no idea Harris was lusted after by lesbians on LChat way back in 2018:

I'm started to get serious anxiety. I have been trying to distract myself with work, but I can't stop obsessively checking the news.

^ Those lezzies have good taste! 👍

We're all going to be FINE!!!!! There will be no second Trump Presidency. None. Stick a fork in his disgustingly filthy ass he is done!

[quote]“Michigan Secretary of State Jocelyn Benson says unofficial election results are expected by midday Wednesday — much earlier than in 2020. 3.2 million voters in the state have cast ballots so far. That’s 44% of all active registered voters which, Benson says, indicates the state is on pace for a high-turnout election.”

Is the conventional wisdom that high turnout favors Democrats still valid?

Imagine how weird it must be for a future president to vote for themselves. Like, just seeing your own name on that ballot. A total mindfuck, I'm sure. Especially when yours is the first female name in the history of your country.

r190 YES! Now more than ever.

[quote] Especially when yours is the first female name in the history of your country

Excuse me?

Trump sees the same thing everyone else sees, that it’s a 50/50 race and could lose, or win.

r193 Oh god, I totally forgot about her. But you know what I mean, one who actually WILL win.

[quote] Like, just seeing your own name on that ballot.

I’m sure there were a lot of guys named George Bush and William Clinton across the country who saw their name on the ballot. Barack Obamas, not so much.

Haha R195. I thought H would have been a great President. Can anyone tell me if Biden planned to run in 2016, or if he reluctantly came forward for 2020 to vanquish Dump?

In 2016, I told my friends I was sure Trump would win.

In 2020, I was sure it would be Biden.

This year, I am convinced Kamala will win. It won't be a landslide, but she'll win.

Let's hope the Dutch Oracle is right again, bitches!!

R190 R192 I think the traditional take that "high turnout" helps Dems is no longer true. 2022 is where the switch was clearly documented. In the old days (20 years ago) the "low propensity" voters were by and large non-college, middle and lower-middle class... and those demographics favored Dems. Repubs were statistically much more dependable voters.... college educated etc.

In the switch post Tea Party/Trump/MAGA the low propensity voters (white, non-college, working class) are proportionately Trump voters... the high propensity voters (white, educated, suburban) and now Dem voters. "High turnout" elections now favor Repubs. In 2022 the expected "red wave" fizzled, in part, because off cycle elections have a lower turnout, and that favored Dems (in addition to the heightened engagement of man over the repeal of Roe).

John Ralston has predicted Kamala will win Nevada.

🔵 Kamala Harris - 49%

🔴 Donald Trump - 48%

R197 Biden didn’t run in 2016 because his son Beau had died the previous year and he wasn’t mentally or emotionally in a place to do so. Had he run, he almost certainly would have beaten the Orange Menace.

Hopeful but getting mentally prepared for the worst. America rarely passes up an opportunity to let me down. Even though I don't have kids, I suppose it is like having a child who just doesn't live up to its potential. It could be so much better but it is what it is.

R200 Not true.

John Ralston's prediction: Harris, 48.5 percent; Trump 48.2 percent; others and None of These Candidates, 3.3 percent.

So basically he's predicting "too close to call".

[quote]Trump says he could lose: ‘Bad things could happen’

Trump's definition of "bad" is vastly different from mine.

Were we this nervous on Election Eve in 2008 and 2012? I honestly don’t remember. Of course now we know McCain and Romney are choir boys compared to Orange but back then, the thought of either one of them in the White House gave me the hives.

I'm going out on a limb to say we will know the winner Tuesday night and it won't be Trump.

R205, I’m feeling more agita about this one than any other. All the reasons others here have been describing for months.

What gives me hope most of all is two things:

(1) the significant gender difference in who’s motivated to vote and why, and

(2) the Harris campaign’s “ground game” in each battleground state is BIG and they are doing superb work compared to the sloppy, mercenary or barely existent work on the Trump side.

This is so nerve-wracking though. Looking forward to everyone’s company in here tomorrow night. I’ll be here 10pm-2am eastern.

I'm hoping that the big takeaway from this election, aside from Trump getting his fat ass handed to him, will be, "Why did the polls get it so wrong?"

Remember, r204, bad things happen in philadelphia

We are nervous now because 2016 caught us all by surprise. We don’t trust polls anymore and still have PTSD from that night.

Maybe because the polls were right in 2016?

The one thing the polls couldn't take in consideration when releasing their findings was the the last minute voter interference that took place in the 2016 election.

Please, don't let tis election go to the Supreme Court to decide.... please!

Yes, we were just as anxious in 2008 because of the PUMAs, if you remember.

Plus, a black man running against a decorated war veteran.

That being said, most of us weren’t terrified of a McCain presidency. He may have been a Republican, but he wasn’t a fascist, Putin loving cunt.

A word from Bernie Sanders:

Well, this gave me a much needed laugh.

If Jill Stein fucks this up again, Biden should send her to Gitmo as a Russian agent.

Guys, we've got this. Just another 36 to 48 hours and we'll have a pretty good idea of who wins. I'm feeling very good about the House and Presidential races right now, very positive, based on all of the information I've read and synthesized over the past 2 days.

The Senate is another story, but I've got my fingers crossed for a miracle there. If Allred can pull off a win against Cruz in TX, and we can pick up another red seat, then we're set.

I’ve been banned from Twitter but if someone could look up Auntie Tiffa (TifaAuntie?) and post the video of her/a woman with pots and pans on her body, I would appreciate it. It’s pretty bizarre and hilarious.

If the Senate stays Republican, do we think they’ll refuse to replace a Supreme Court Judge if a spot becomes available?

r220 Yes, obviously.

Also, no spot other than maybe Sotomayor (diabetes) will become available under Kamala, even if she serves two terms. The reds will sooner die on the bench than allow themselves to be replaced by a Dem president.

Kamala will win, I can feel it in the air.

[quote] post the video of her/a woman with pots and pans on her body

Although it’s an exhibition of mental illness, I know many here will see themselves in it.

R220 Not to get ahead of ourselves, but given that the Supreme Court has decided that the President can do anything she wants with no legal repercussions, wouldn't it be fun it Harris just ordered the military to go in and jail Alito and Thomas and threaten Roberts with jail if he didn't cooperate with appointing two replacement justices.

[quote] If the Senate stays Republican, do we think they’ll refuse to replace a Supreme Court Judge if a spot becomes available?

I think they are more likely to vote them down if the nominee is not at least a centrist, like Sandra Day O’Connor. I don’t think they would hold it, unless it were the fourth year.

R224 From your lips to God's ears!

Rick Wilson - live w/gossip about the Trump campaign.

Ok,made a post that didn't go through.

Basically, if she wins, Sotomayor will step downand that's it. If he wins, enough will step down to mean that he will have picked a majority of the Supreme Court. Last time that happened was Eisenhower. Those were very different times...

R227 Well, that cheered me right up.

If my bronze "daddy" wins, he'll receive the best rim job ever!

If he loses, hopefully not, I will take to my fainting couch with my smelling salts and Jack Daniels.

r227 is amazing. Thank you!

Is it too soon to request Kamala's image to be added to Mt. Rushmore? Getting rid of Dump is worthy of that. Or hell, give her her own mountain.

Collins and Murkowski might side with the Democrats on SCOTUS appointments and that thanks to Turtle a simple majority is enough.

I'm off drinking (* at home) of late and have kinda lost the desire to drink entirely, but may need to get a bottle of something for tomorrow night. And maybe the next several nights depending

I'm supporting Puerto Rican community by hiring a succession of rentboys until the polls close.

And when the poles are close, I whisper: They disrespect you, vote Harris.

[quote] I'm supporting Puerto Rican community by hiring a succession of rentboys until the polls close.

Now that’s a position I could support.

I'm thinking about what Kamala will wear to the Inaugural Ball. She doesn't seem to favor dresses or skirts so maybe a sparkly suit.

I just took an edible.

I'm getting good and stoned tonight.

I saw the phrase "nauseously optimistic" online. That sums it up.

I've seen some videos of people being asked if they plan to vote for Trump. One woman seemed quite affronted by the question, she replied "No, of course not. He's a convicted felon." That make me feel good, I'm sure she's not the only one of that sentiment.

I'm feeling restless. I'm anxious for a Madam President, let's go!

Leave it to Miss Viola Davis to make me cry.

No matter what happens, I love you all, and I’m so proud of you.

The Times's Michelle Goldberg put it well:

[quote] This awful liminal period is like waiting for the results of a biopsy, and it’s hard to reason clearly about the future until there’s a prognosis.

I feel like if I never hear the word "complacent" again, it'll be too soon. That word has not been applicable at any time during Kamala's campaign, yet people have been warning against "getting complacent" nonstop. Complacency is self-satisfaction, smugness, satisfaction with the way things are and no interest in changing it. In reality, we all know this has been a nail-biter from the word "go," and there's been very, very little to be satisfied with. If we were complacent, it would mean we were satisfied with Kamala being up by a small amount within the margin of error.

We can also stop stop saying things like, "Vote like your life depends upon it." Either you vote or you don't, and you should, but you can only do it once. There's no super-intense method of voting that makes your vote count extra, nor is it like playing a slot machine repeatedly until you hit the jackpot.

Yes, I am one worn-out, bitchy vocabulary troll. I am also a grammar troll if called to serve. I cannot control Trump or MAGA or the media, so I work out my frustrations defending the English language. Sad!

Don't get complacent! Keep voting and voting! :D

Kamala, Tim, Doug and Gwen left it ALL on the field.

I think the candidates’ spouses on both sides could have done more.

I'm drunk already. Got two 30-packs of Natural Light to get me to Wednesday night (hopefully).

[quote] Got two 30-packs of Natural Light

How much change from your $20 did you get?

I have voted early because I haven’t felt like getting presentable and leaving the house. I’m going to bathe tomorrow and go to my polling location to vote.

R247, dude! At least drink something decent and no pisswater!

Why do you hate yourself? Damn, son!

R244, I got sick of the constant warnings against complacency four years ago. At times it felt less like a call to action and more like scolding others for not becoming neurotic messes.

I'd also like to add that if Kamala wins tomorrow, there is no need for people to remind us that we have to remain vigilant because of Donald Trump. DataLoungers sometimes act as if Trump is going to hide in our closets, jump out and say "Boo!" if we don't remain on constant high alert.

He will file frivolous lawsuits, delay, distract and try numerous dirty tricks. But it will be the job of the executive branch, the justice department and the legal team at the DNC to stop him, and I am confident that they will do the right thing (even milquetoast Merrick). No amount of worrying or hand-wringing by individual DataLounge posters will have any effect.

I'm stoned as fuck.

Watching this:

R248, I'll have you know that one Natural Light 30-pack costs over $20! Well, I never!

R252 "... the game is tied, just a few minutes left, but WE'VE GOT THE BALL...Wisconsin get out there and win this thing for America!!"

Glenn Greenwald's pouty brand of truculence has gotten poutier and more truculent over the last few days.

Which also gives me hope.

I'm not ashamed to say I will probably cry if Kamala doesn't win. BUT SHE WILL WIN! So it will be smiles all around.

This priest sums it up simply--

I will cry if she does win, r256. Bawl.

My optimism spiked with the Iowa poll, but I'm now feeling pessimistic. Pennsylvania looks now like a reach. So Harris's pathway becomes more narrow. And I just don't see her picking up both North Carolina & Georgia to make up for the loss. Arizona has long seemed her toughest state, so winning just one of the southern states won't be enough.

I like seeing a lot of men at her events. She's got the women.

[quote]I don’t doubt that democratic politicians are also craven and blindly ambitious, that they would follow the party line if bucking it meant being ostracized or voted out of office. -R85

Oh please. First, Democrats are like cats, and we all know you can't herd them. As Will Rogers said, "I’m not a member of any organized political party…. I’m a Democrat."

Second, this is the first time in my life — and I'm 60 — that the Democrats were in array from the moment Biden walked on to the debate stage and it became crystal clear he would lose. I think we owe the survival of democracy to Nancy Pelosi, who marshalled this plan through the party so effectively that it's just plain stunning. This election will be written about and studied for decades.

Third, if you actually think that the party doesn't police itself and ostracize (and sometimes too much), I'd like to introduce you to Al Franken, Anthony Weiner (sorry to include him), Alan Grayson, Howard Dean...

PA seems like a reach??? WTF- I cannot keep up from post to post!!!

I'm willing to say I'm stupid Wednesday, but Florida.

I am having flashbacks to 2016. I was so confident Clinton would win.

DL, please, talk me down.

Kamala will win. Think positively, send those thoughts out into the universe.

R263- WHAT THE FUCK do you mean. Everyone here over 55 needs to. sign off- You all are making less and less sense-

But I want to know WTF is wrong in PA-

R264, Dems have been ANYTHING but complacent since that night.

Polls are shit and turn off the tv (or binge a show, any show). She's got this.

Thanks r267 / r268

No pessimism, R259. The Selzer poll was a bellwether. She revealed the hidden vote that other pollsters have not seen, probably because of some bias but more likely due to the fact that most pollsters have not figured out how to poll with any degree of accuracy and are weighing some factors incorrectly. They don't understand how pissed off women over 65 are about Dobbs despite the 22 midterms and the fact that when abortion has been on the ballot anywhere, it's gone for women's rights, even in red states. Women know abortion is on the ballot just as much as the names listed in the POTUS box.

Further, Shitler's surprise victory in 2016 was due to late-breaking voters. Thanks to Tony Hinchcliffe's Puerto Rico-is-garbage "joke", Hispanics have flipped to Kamala. Olberman quoted a poll in FL (I think) that two weeks ago had Hispanics for DonOld by 49 to 41; post MSG Nazi rally, it flipped to Kamala 82-13. Before the rally, the Harris campaign said that late breaking voters were going 2 to 1 for her; since, it's just exploded. Between them, Haitians, abortion [italic]and[/italic] marijuana on the ballot, I'm with R263. And if Florida is called for Harris tomorrow night, it's over. And I don't think FL is the first or only state that the PR remarks will impact; it might give her the votes needed to solidify GA, NC and NV (although I think she's ahead in NV and NC as it is).

Post your predictions

And let's not forget the 620.000 Hispanics (at least 120k are Puerto Rican) in Pennsylvania.

I feel that she will lose AZ and GA. That is all I know..

I am very iffy about NV--- I should possibly swap GA AND NV

I feel that NC is hers--

R271 That map is media horse race BS. She will get a lot more of the swing states.

r271, the last poll of NE District 2 shows a +4 race, so the GOP could win and make it a 269-269 tie.

Is anyone watching Rachel Maddow right now talking about Putin’s alliance with Trump & Musk? It’s shocking, and as usual she has the facts, but it’s too late to get much traction now. Isn’t it? She also mentioned Epstein, but I haven’t seen much about that anywhere else.

R270 - I don't want to give too much to Tony - he'll blow that out of proportion for attention the rest of his life. The whole rally at MSG was a shit show.

People act like he turned the entire PR population - they were going to vote for Kamala in larger numbers anyway. What that stunt did was pull the few percentages away and added in some undecideds or non-voters. But it's not massive.

Is it enough to tip things? Yes, but Kamala had the advantage all along. You can't lose women, blacks, Latinos, South Asians, gays/lesbians, trans and expect to win.

It’s like MAGA voters don’t want any real information. They have this ideal leader in their minds that is basically a fantasy and they’ve attached it to Trump. They close their eyes & plug their ears if anyone presents anything that would expose the reality. Do you think they will look back one day and wonder how they were so deceived?

After a few insomniac nights in a row, I feel greedy enough this evening to not just beg the universe for a Harris victory no matter how narrow.

Make it fucking DECISIVE.

[quote]It’s like MAGA voters don’t want any real information. They have this ideal leader in their minds that is basically a fantasy and they’ve attached it to Trump. They close their eyes & plug their ears if anyone presents anything that would expose the reality.

Probably the best description I've heard of the MAGA cult since 2015.

Joe Rogan has endorsed Trump this evening, but it seems like that is really too late to have significant impact.

Apparently the rally in philly is STILL GOING ON

R282 Shapiro speaking now. Harris coming soon.

Yikes! Riding me bike now

[quote]Apparently the rally in philly is STILL GOING ON

Considering Harris is not scheduled to speak until 11pm, I would hope so.

Guys- you need a laugh. I cannot breathe--

[quote]Joe Rogan has endorsed Trump this evening, but it seems like that is really too late to have significant impact.

His interview with Elon Musk dropped 5 hours ago, so far 2,796,380 views and the numbers keep spinning.

R281, interesting — it seems Rogan waited til tonight to bury his endorsement in all the noise, but still avoid the MAGA wrath he’d get if he didn’t do it at all. Not exactly an alpha move.

I'm going to bed, bitches.

It's going to be a long day tomorrow.

[quote] Joe Rogan has endorsed Trump this evening, but it seems like that is really too late to have significant impact.

Of course it will have no impact at this late stage, but as usual he wants it both ways....

Trump loses he can say, 'But I endorsed him so it's not my fault you bros didn't vote.' Trump wins, it's because of his endorsement.

He's a dumb fucking hack bro.

We forget that the first election that a lot of MAGAt remembers is Reagan's 84 total landslide and they yearn for the decisiveness that election gave the country (and are willing to eat that shit pie if it brings them that comfort). The question in that election between Dole, who was honest and told the American people he'd raise their taxes, and Reagan who lied and said he wouldn't, is so simplistic in its nature yet so powerful; it showed (probably not for the first time, but nevertheless) that [italic]some[/italic] Americans prefer lies to truth, fantasy to fact. And Republicans leveraged it increasingly; there is a through-line from Newt Gingrich's politics of personal destruction to the Tea Party to MAGAts and Shitler, who turned it into a cult.

And yes, they're in for some eye-opening results that will take them some time to believe.

If Kamala doesn't win it will be proof that there are more dumb Americans than smart ones.

Is there any popular public figure whose politics are as inconsistent and incohesive, and therefore as hard to take seriously, as Joe Rogan's? Recall that he fawned over Bernie Sanders in his interview with him and agreed with virtually everything he said, and subsequently flipped to Trump.

Anyone who would be "moved" by a Rogan endorsement was 1) already voting for Trump, or 2) not voting.

Will a couple get off the couch and vote for Trump because of it? Sure, a couple. Will it make a difference? Nah, not at all. Does it peg Rogan as a douche and when Harris win will many folks pull away from his Trump stink? Yep.

Accounting for everything, if Harris wins, it was a dumb ass move. He doesn't help Trump but he could well hurt himself.

Kind of odd that him and Elon are best buds, considering Rogan's first big break in pdocasting was how he constantly said the moon landing was fake.

[quote]they yearn for the decisiveness that election gave the country

There are people who don't wish we had decisive elections? These barely winning in the Electoral College elections haven't been great for the country.

I don't know that I see it as weak or dumb. Yes, he is trying to have it both ways by endorsing the cheeto at such a late hour, but it's probably more for $$$ reasons. He doesn't lose any of his crazy fan boys this way. The ones who lean Harris will excuse it as too late to have mattered and his Trump fans will be glad he did it at all.

[quote]Anyone who would be "moved" by a Rogan endorsement was 1) already voting for Trump, or 2) not voting.

Well, there's also the category of the low propensity voters who usually don't vote and need some impetus to do it.

R293 - all of these guys have a long trajectory arc - like Morton Downey, Jr, Glenn Beck, Tucker Carlson, Alex Jones - but I have a feeling Joe is on the down slide from his peak.

It's a really pussy move - and he calls people pussies all the time - to endorse the night before the election.

He's just a loud, laughing, flip-flopping ape. The worst of New Jersey. The one thing that may keep him going is his inconsistency and this false 'i don't know anything - don't listen to me - I'm just listening to information'.

The popular vote should rule.

[quote] The question in that election between Dole, who was honest and told the American people he'd raise their taxes

You mean Mondale.

That's the thing; we haven't had any "barely won the EC" elections since the Bush years. The swing states tend to move together. Shitler got 304 to 227; Biden got 306 to 232. Obama got 332 to ROmney's 206 and 365 to McCain's McCain's 173.

What hasn't been great for the country is that Republicans can't accept that the Democrats have won, including a Black man and hopefully tomorrow, a Black woman.

And yes, you're correct, R301. Regan made a mockery of Mondale.

Joe Rogan looks awful. He's aged considerably in the last year. I wonder what that's about. His face is now this odd combo of bloat and facial wasting.

I've purchased my alcohol for tomorrow. I will be drinking either in celebration or despair. But my heart leans more toward celebration. I'll be stuck at work so no bar fun. Though I find it more heart-warming to celebrate with the crowd. I'll raise my spiked tea virtually with the rest of you!! Let's do this.

I'm so glad I'm retired. If I was still working and found out that any of my coworkers were voting for Trump, I probably would have been fired as I would have voiced my opposition strenuously.

I’m loaded with benzos that I brought back from Mexico. And I will be smoking copious amounts of pot.

I have my therapist tomorrow. I don’t know what we’ll talk about.

Meanwhile, if you’ll forgive me for being a huge nerd:

Let them come. There is one dwarf in Moria who still draws breath.

Thanks for pissing on our party, concern troll at R259.

R306 what's your sense of the swing states?

My guess is that the swing states are swinging hard for R306.

Even if Kamalla defies gravity and wins tomorrow, I will never forgive the Dem apparatchiks for the way they cast Mighty Joe aside like an old orphaned shoe you ditch in the back of the closet. The most impactful presIdent since FDR, the most unifying and de-escalatory public figure since Oprah or Mandela. And Pelosi had her henchman kneecap him out of pure self interest and long-simmering malice. Joe would’ve once again consolidated an enormous coalition of sane, democracy-minded patriots champing at the bit to rid us of Trump for once and for all.

Unfortunately, this is just where we are — neck and neck between Trump and an untested one-term lady senator. Regardless of how terribly things go tomorrow, history will look back with shame and embarrassment over the ouster of Mighty Joe.

Let's just look at the numbers. Biden won by 7 million votes, and 306 to 232 in the electoral college - including GA, NV, WI, MI and PA.

Those same people will vote for Kamala PLUS we have Republicans who can't vote for Trump anymore, more motivated women (particularly young women) voters, and several hundred thousand fewer Trump voters who died during the pandemic.

This was BEFORE Jan 6th, before Dobbs decision, before the MSG Nazi Rally, before all of Trump's court cases.

Do you guys really think he has picked up MORE voters since then? He's lost people - the MAGAs are just loud and they aren't going to change their votes.

The polls have been wrong for several election cycles now.

Are all of you going to watch the returns tomorrow night? I don't know if I have the stomach for it. I still have PTSD from 2016. I almost want to go to bed early and then tune in Wednesday morning to see where the race is at. Of course, if she has a great night, then I'll kick myself for missing out on all the excitement. I don't know what to do.

[quote]I almost want to go to bed early and then tune in Wednesday morning to see where the race is at.

Everyone, please make sure you don't post any election spoilers on Tuesday so that r312 will be able to be surprised on Wednesday.

R310, I love Joe. I actually used to see him on the Acela when he was a senator. Great guy, great to talk to, always by himself with the newspaper and his documents. I was DEVASTATED when he bombed the debate, and very angry at the move to get him removed from the ticket. I cancelled my newspaper subscriptions (Fuck you NYT) and was as depressed as I’ve ever been. Joe was a great president who brought this country back from the brink.

But I also saw that Joe was no longer himself. He was greatly diminished even from the State of the Union. I do believe his health—although once robust—is now sadly frail. This move had to be done. It was terrible circumstances, but even I could see that Joe has lost a step, and it’s just going to get worse.

Kamala has sparked interest, hope and something new. I hope she wins, it will be great for the spirit of America.

This Harris campaign has been masterful. I don’t know if she will win, but she should. When you listen to her and him, it’s really hard to believe there is any question.

r97 As a Michigander I really don't know which direction my state is going tomorrow. It really could go either way. But, I'm apologizing in advance just in case. 😬

I agree r315. But there is a huge contingent of Americans who want Trump in office and they are fired up as well.

This is something I can’t comprehend.

2016 I can kind of understand. But after the Access Hollywood tape, caging of children, Muslim ban, withholding relief from Puerto Rico, fucked up Covid response, quid pro quo on aid to Ukraine, election fraud, January 6 insurrection, stacking the scotus to kill roe, and the E Jean verdict?

What is wrong with these people?

Anyway, I digress. I don’t have a lot of confidence in America anymore. I wouldn’t be surprised if Trump is able to slither back into office. Not one bit.

You’re not a Michiganer, lying Defacto at r317.

[quote]As a Michigander I really don't know which direction my state is going tomorrow.

What was the yard sign situation there?

I went to bed at about 2 am the night of the 2020 election. It looked like Joe was going to lose and I was very dejected. When I woke up they had declared a couple states for him and it was like the sun came out. Then he won. Saint Joseph of Scranton.

lol r320!

[quote]You’re not a Michiganer, lying Defacto at [R317].

At least r317 spelled it correctly.

Based on his poorly attended rallies, it feels like MAGA has given up on Trump. Elon will have wasted all those millions trying to buy votes.

I hope she wins most of the swing states so the cries of “cheating!” will fall on deaf ears. May prison and death come swiftly for the disgusting Donald Trump.

r320 On 8 Mile/Base Line right off of Haggerty, I saw a couple of Harris/Walz signs on the Novi side and on the Northville side I saw a couple Harris/Walz signs as well as a Trump/Vance sign. I don't recall ever seeing Trump signs in 2016 or 2020 in this area. That's Oakland (Novi) and Wayne (Northville) counties.

In Washtenaw, which is extremely blue, I've only seen a few Harris/Walz signs off of Packard and Golfside. There are a lot of Progressives and college students in Washtenaw because of U of M and EMU.

And then there's this nonsense.

(Like I said, I'm apologizing in advance just in case)

Who votes for a guy who calls his female opponent stupid & low IQ & trash & everything but doo-doo-head! WHET the gentlemanly “my opponent is just wrong, or naive, or confused”?

Never mind - stupid question. He could probably throw shit at his audience and they’d keep cheering.

R318 - those who are fired up for Trump are the same ones who voted for him in 2020. It's just his loud obnoxious base.

He has done nothing to appeal to get more voters - instead he's lost voters, particularly R's after Jan 6th.

The media has made this into a photo finish once again for clicks and views. They've sane-washed him. They cover him only to show both sides.

It doesn't mean there is more support. The only weak arguments they have are inflation and the border. Those assholes are not reachable - but that's not the majority of Americans.

Dixville Notch is in!

Thus dawns the last day of Trumpism.

If Turd had 3 more weeks to put his foot in his mouth I believe his polls would plummet. He seems to be sundowning, and growing more angry and resentful. Just this past week or so: Puerto Rican garbage, "retarded Biden", orally copulating a microphone, Jeffrey Epstein's best friend and almost falling down.

But we're out of time. The rest of his mental decline will be visible only from the White House or Mag-a-Lardo.

Anyone who votes for Trump is unamerican. Get out.

Speaking of Dixville Notch, Dartmouth Poll shows Harris leading Trump in NH by 28 points, 62% to 34%.

Well, he’s up past his bedtime tonight for his final rally. He can still say more stupid stuff.

This is the day our collective 2016 PTSD gets cured for good, gurlfriends.

From your lips to God’s ears, R334.

R318 What is wrong with these people?

I might know the answer, and as implausible as it sounds, they don't know about a lot of that. They live in a Fox news bubble of Propaganda where the important stories about Trump that we all here know by heart, are either "spun", or missing crucial details, or not reported on at all.

My brother lives in Florida and voted for Trump twice. We grew up in a strongly Democrat Liberal family, but he's mostly been apolitical Watches only sports. He's been married to a woman for 30 years who's Republican - (we didn't even know she was Republican. I don't think he did when he married her).

He's not allowed to watch any other news station. He's told to avoid the NYT and Wapo. He only knows about Hillary's emails and Hunter Biden's dick.

And the occasional real story he does hear, he's told it's "fake news" by his wife. Totally clueless.

That's what we're dealing with in this country.

I’m looking forward to Wednesday, the beginning of the 2028 campaign.

Dixville Notch tied 3-3.

[quote]He's been married to a woman for 30 years who's Republican - (we didn't even know she was Republican. I don't think he did when he married her). He's not allowed to watch any other news station. He's told to avoid the NYT and Wapo. He only knows about Hillary's emails and Hunter Biden's dick. And the occasional real story he does hear, he's told it's "fake news" by his wife. Totally clueless.

Is she part of that secret women vote someone here keeps mentioning?

Three of those only moved to DN in 2020. And of course Bill Clinton got obliterated there both times.

Honestly, a second spent talking about that place is a second too much.

[Quote] At least [R317] spelled it correctly.

Of course you did, Defacto, because you wanted to appear authentic so you looked it up.

Dixville Notch unanimously voted for Biden last time. On the other hand, it voted in the GOP primary this time, so 3-3 can be interpreted by both sides to mean whatever they want. But the real truth is that it's six fucking votes and completely meaningless. Just something for the media to talk about since the results that matter won't be in until tonight.

I expose myself to one Republican-leaning source just to assure myself of not being in the much-dreaded bubble. And that’s been enough to leave me with much dread. So if Trump does win, although obviously devastated for myself, the country & the world, I won’t be as shell shocked as I was in ‘16. On the other hand, a Harris win would be even so much sweeter.

Are the six people in Dixville Notch all related?

CNN's Dana Bash:

"I'm being told that Megyn Kelly just announced that she's gonna be speaking at Donald Trump's last rally. Megyn Kelly of 'blood coming out of her whatever' fame. That's an interesting turn of events."

Megyn Kelly is endorsing Trump because saving Ukraine from Putin's crutches isn't nearly as important an issue as boys playing on girls' soccer teams.

[quote]"I'm being told that Megyn Kelly just announced that she's gonna be speaking at Donald Trump's last rally. Megyn Kelly of 'blood coming out of her whatever' fame. That's an interesting turn of events."

Will she be wearing plastic garbage bags again? Really the most appropriate outfit for Megyn Kelly, who's never been anything but complete trash.

It's nearly 5am and I am off to open the polls in the burbs of Hamilton county, Ohio.

Long ass day today. I will check in with any news at lunch.

Has anyone started an "official" thread yet for today? I will post there if so.

Hang on, my pretties!

You're doing God's work, r348. Thank you.

I'll never forget working the polls in Ohio when Obama won in 2008. By the time I got home, it was late, and I was exhausted. And then when they called it for Obama and he made that famous victory speech in Grant Park, I was bawling.

Rainy day in Chicago.

Come join us in the official Election Day thread!

R319, shut the fuck up.

mao, there's no need to apologize for your state. Besides, I have a good feeling about Michigan.

Have any of you bitches taken the day off?

What R352 said.

R340 otoh really is smerdyakov.

[quote][R340] otoh really is smerdyakov.

I really don't know how to interpret you coming at me like that on election day of all days, other than to just say I've been here for twenty years and wasn't nasty to you once. So get fucked, I guess.

Feeling a bit insecure this morning. I hope Harris’ win isn’t just a lot of hype.

Still a believer but…just want this to move forward now.

It’s because MAGA is so confident. But nothing shakes them.

I think we all still have residual trauma from 2026.

*2016

Is anyone else worried about civil unrest from the MAGAs?

R340 I am so sorry! I meant R310. R310 really is Smerdyakov.

[quote]Come join us in the official Election Day thread!

A link might have been nice.

Here's Laura Benanti as Melania voting for Kamala Mamala. Some humor to lighten your anxiety.

Reports of longer than usual lines of voters across Indiana.

[quote]Unfortunately, this is just where we are — neck and neck between Trump and an untested one-term lady senator.

Who's been vice president for four years, you sexist dumbass.

Also, in what way exactly was Trump "tested" before he got elected?

Well, there was that cognitive test.

WHICH HE FUCKING ACED!

[quote]Imagine being in a town of 6 eligible voters and you find out 3 of your neighbors are Nazis? Oof

Thankfully very little news of DeJoy fucking with the postal service this time around.

I’m feeling twitchy as hell. 11pm cannot come soon enough.

R310 must’ve been trolling, it’s hard to take a “Biden shoulda stayed” argument at all seriously. The one recent time they rolled Biden out to help, he fumble-spoke about garbage and the Trump/Fox world pounced on it.

r364 If Indiana turns blue then maybe there's hope for Oklahoma and Louisiana?

r330 I wonder if he will attend Jimmy Carters funeral if he dies soon after Kamala wins or if he will be feeling too sore, angry and rejected?

I can't see hm attending any former president's funeral ever again after today, to be honest. He'll be too butthurt to concern himself with any remaining decency and tradition.

I just donated another $100 to her campaign

r373 I suspect your right. Did he attend Rosalynn Carters funeral last year?

r375 No, though Melania did.

Long lines in Berks County, PA. Rural voters out in force. 😬

The day has arrived!

Just shook Dan Goldman’s hand at the LIRR station!

Even if the Senate is lost and nothing gets done over the next four years, a Kamala win will still be totally worth it. I just hope there's no rematch in 2028, we can't keep doing this!

Dump will be either dead or in a state of serious cognitive decline by 2028 r380.

As soon as he loses -- again -- the GOP will find a way to drop him.

Cool ElderLez! r379. Goldman oughta be impressed and honored to shake your hand!

I've got on "Soundscapes", the Meditation Muzak of my Spectrum Cable access/

I can't start today with MSNBC or CNN. I'm too wound-up.

After house chores, I'm thinking of going to a recovery activity and a movie.

Or, spend time sitting in silence on a pew at my local Roman Catholic Church.

Ahh Della, you are too sweet. I’m just happy it’s a huge deadline today at work to take my mind off of the election. (Although I will be checking in at lunch) May it be a good day for all of us.

Smoooches, Doll

I just put up a few Christmas lights. I may watch a Hallmark movie or two today.

Christ, look at this long line at UPenn. Why would anyone put themselves through that when you could just vote early?

Good luck, bitches.

Early voting that isn’t by mail in Pennsylvania is kind of a mess.

[quote] I just put up a few Christmas lights. I may watch a Hallmark movie or two today.

Excellent suggestion, r385. I too enjoy the therapeutic value of the soothing sameness of Hallmark and Lifetime Christmas movies.

Election Day morning.....very hopeful and almost certain about the outcome.

Drown it 💙

I just took a shit

JFC look at this. Trump really does believe the sycophants he is surrounded by and lives in an alternate reality.

There's another video pre-debate when he was being set up.

TIME TO TAKE OUT THE TRASH PEOPLE!

Trump is going down!!!

Clip of Trump with his sycophants after the Kamala debate came out just now. You can see how he's hopelessly trapped in his own little information bubble.

what do the polls say? swing states?

This might feel like the longest day in the history of the United States.

[quote] what do the polls say? swing states?

What does a person awakening from a two year coma say?

[quote] This might feel like the longest day in the history of the United States.

Then I’ll see you on the beach.

Not THIS beach R399?

[quote] Then I’ll see you on the beach.

Kamala is the wind beneath my wings.

I'm thinking of catching an early matinee of Conclave and grabbing a pizza before settling in for the evening. I just can't watch MSNBC all day long when nobody knows anything yet.

I’m debating whether to vote in the morning or the afternoon, trying to go when the lines are smaller. I’ll bathe now for either possibility.

I turned on PBS and watching NHK News wanting some perspective. They were showing a documentary, 72 hours in the life of a convenience store in a small, isolated town in winter. It’s the town’s only store. (Lots of prepared meals which look very interesting). Several residents were interviewed and we saw their workplaces. It snowed the entire time and was below -10°C. It was a blissfully mundane little documentary and for a few minutes I forgot our desperate situation.

I'm going to watch PBS later too R404. I love Amna Nawaz. Every time I hear her speaking, calmness descends on me. I think their election panel start at 7 pm.

Hello DLers! Welcome to Election Day, aka the Day We've Been Waiting for Since 11/8/2016.

I'm hunkered down in my office, keeping one eye on work and one on DL and the news sites. It's gonna be a long day, everyone needs to take care and check in here if they need a boost.

Glad to see Poll Troll back online, and Della, Torta and VOTN all here with us across various threads. Keep calm and carry on, as they say!

I don't want to be a MARY!!! but I am really damn grateful for the lot of you.

R407- Eat shit

You wouldn't piss on me if I was on fire in the middle of the street!!!

One thing I don't hear talked about enough by the media is the ground game. All the focus is on what issues and endorsements will lead to better turnout for each side, but little mention of how the differences there will matter. . Assuming the polls are accurate, the ground game will matter even more than usual. And from my understanding, she beats him significantly in this area. Lots more organization on her side. He has put his faith in some hired people that may just take his campaign money and run rather than actually run it well. But we will see soon enough.

[quote]Long lines in Berks County, PA. Rural voters out in force.

Isn't the south part of Berks now very developed and suburban though? An extension of the Philly exurbs, one might say. Didn't that county go for Biden in 2020?

Miz Lindz with the menz:

[quote] “I feel good about it, but I am nervous”

She’ll be fine in the meantime. A few extra drinkypoos will help calm her nerves. 🥃 🍸 🍹 🍾 🍺

Hello whores!

Hi Dutchie! Good to see another longtimer on here today.

Very red eyes @ R411. Looks like Mizz Lindz is already drunk and knows that the Titanic is going down.

You're not thinking of Bucks County, are you?

Who will Lindsey latch onto next? He’s like a remora fish.

Well Hello! Welcome to mae election! 💋💯🇺🇸🕶👙💡 I proudly casted my vote fro President Trump!

Bucks County is the more suburban Philly county....but Berks is home to Reading, Wyomissing and other exurbs (within 40-45 miles of Philly). Hasn't it trended towards a purple hue in recent years?

Dreams of a blue Florida over already. I wish Dems stopped with this fantasy, it's not happening.

thanks, r418. I don't think I really understood what an exurb is.

Florida, Florida, Florida elections were ruined by the Bushes & the Supremes with Bush v Gore. Rick “Medicare Fraud” Scott is their Senator after being another corrupt Republican Governor. It’s hopeless.

I also realised the other day I don't understand what an exurb is and probably never will, so you're not alone.

r419, that breakdown is the voting by party lines, and not the actual vote tally. If 10 to 15% of the registered Repubs who voted switched over to Harris this year, we still have ourselves a race.

(Yes I'm aware that's a longshot scenario).

My polling site in Brooklyn was very crowded this morning, but I was in and out in less than 20 minutes.

There were lots of poll workers keeping things moving, and there were more stations available to fill out ballots.

Before I went in, I saw a woman encouraging a little girl to rip a flyer off of a lamp pole while the woman filmed. The confused kid asked “why?” and the woman replied, “IT’S TRUMP!”

[quote]Thankfully very little news of DeJoy fucking with the postal service this time around.

I spoke with my mailman a couple of weeks ago and asked him (again, had the same convo 4 years ago) about ballots and being delivered on time, and he again assured me that the rank and file are well aware of DeJoy's effort to slow down election mail and they are having none of it. He says that when they pick up a ballot from a household mail box, they tuck it into one of their totes separate from the rest of the mail and they get handed off first and manually sorted to go directly to one of the many county election offices. They're doing everything they can to ensure that mail ballots get delivered asap in spite of DeJoy's efforts.

That’s encouraging.

I voted early in person but I know women who want to vote in person today for Harris. That’s the way I felt about voting for Obama in 2008. The polling place had a great vibe, everyone was smiling, bringing their kids.

I am suddenly getting errors messages on DL threads.

Uh oh.

DL, DON'T FAIL ME NOW!!!

Had my teeth cleaned this morning and the office is run by four women, who all voted for Kamala in person today after having mailed their ballots in 2020.

I need to get out of the house.

Unsung heroes, r425! Thanks for letting us know.

R419, Florida has 1 million more registered Republicans than Democrats, so the graph showing that there are more returned Republican ballots is not as meaningful in the context of this election.

To wit, how do Puerto Ricans in Florida register to vote? Among the 2.8 million Hispanics overall, only slightly more D than R with "no affiliation" coming in a close third. I know they're not a solid block, but when you have the polling switch from 49-41 Trump to 82-15 Harris after the MSG Nazi rally, it won't be reflected in party [italic]registration.[/italic]

Further, we all know that the retirees in The Villages are predominantly Republican, yet they've had numerous Harris events and Democrats in their midst say this is the first year they've felt comfortable putting lawn signs out and openly talking about their choice.

And finally, polling says that senior women are pissed off, fired up, and voting. They know Trump took their daughters' and granddaughters' rights away, and they are voting accordingly.

I'm not giving up hope despite knowing that it is a long shot. Florida is still Florida. Trump was gaining ground among Hispanics in Florida, but I can't see that trend continuing given the garbage comment on top of his mass deportation plans that will directly impact Hispanics in dramatic ways. The shift over the last 4 years in voter registration numbers doesn't bode well, but we are living through the worst election of our lives.

I couldn't post for 48 hours this weekend, r427. I thought it was an election related restriction,but it turns out it was just me. Too much karma(?). I don't really know what that means, but maybe I was posting too much or got too many up votes, so it looked suspicious.

r432 No, some psycho ganged up on you and FF'd you into a timeout. It's been happening a lot lately.

What's them tea leaves saying at this juncture in time? We haven't had an update in ages.

Wow, r433. Same thing happened to me on Instagram late last week! I guess I'm pissing off all the right people.

Berks County is home to Reading, PA (pronounced Red-ing), which is mostly Puerto Rican now (shout-out to my best biker buddy in Reading, Guillermo!) and decidedly [bold]not[/bold] rural. But there are rural areas in Berks County and they will go red for sure. BTW, Berks is the county where Taylor Swift grew up.

Dauphin County will go Dem -- Harrisburg is a majority black city, so don't count them out. But again, everything else in Dauphin County is rural, so...

And I wouldn't count on the UPenn kids voting for Kamala. A current presidential candidate (who shall remain nameless) went there, remember? Plus, the majority of those kids' parents have all kinds of money, so there's that.

I just got back from voting and the polls were busy. I hope they all voted for Kamala.

[quote]Indiana Senator Mike Braun sends out texts reading, "Voting records are public--your friends, neighbors, and family will know if you stood with Trump when it mattered most."

Lol.

r438 he's probably trying to scare women in abusive relationships into voting for Dump

Unfortunately Georgia will be red

R440 I’m not so sure. Yes, I know what the polls have been saying, but I wouldn’t count GA out.

R436, we are actually appalled and disgusted he went to Penn.

MAGA freaking out over Nevada numbers right now.

Yeah - the graph at R419 shows a large percentage of NPA - no party affiliation. These are people who never voted before or are independents.

I believe many of them are voting for Kamala. The reason why people choose NPA is because the fucked-up state of Florida PUBLISHES your party affiliation online.

That definitely does not mean that there are more Trump votes.

It only shows who voted by their previous party affiliation. VERY misleading.

I don’t think so, R440.

^^^ I bet!!

Sorry -- that was for the Penn alum @ R442.

I just came home from voting. It was an hour from start to finish. A weird thing I saw was that in the line in front of me, it was easily 2/3 to 3/4 men. I guess men like to vote on Election Day instead of voting early.

Ugh he's speaking right now and repeating all the same lies about the border, illegal murders roaming the country, rigged voting machines, illegals voting, him having a substantial lead. Slurry. No makeup. Looks shit.

Same thing happened to me this weekend, R432! I assumed that some psycho (as R433 says) FFed me repeatedly, but I have no idea why. My posts aren't all that inflammatory, just run-of-the-mill Democratic stuff.

What state and general area, r448/

[quote]And I wouldn't count on the UPenn kids voting for Kamala. A current presidential candidate (who shall remain nameless) went there, remember? Plus, the majority of those kids' parents have all kinds of money, so there's that.

Ivy League students are going to vote heavily for Harris.

And yes, UPenn is an Ivy League university.

Hubby just pointed out one interesting fact about Florida registrations: DeathSentence has been extremely busy purging voter rolls going back years. The state reports [bold]active[/bold] registrations, too, so that might be deceptive in terms of the actual numbers of voters. And I cannot find a definition of "active" on the state's voter website, so who knows what that even means. Someone who voted in the last 2 years? 4 years? Some criteria pulled from Rhonda's ass?

I just hope everyone gets a chance to vote and not deal with long lines and fuckery.

I get that people 'like the process' of going and voting in-person, but the long lines and the disruption just doesn't seem worth it.

R452 - not so sure about Dartmouth students, who are decidedly the conservative Ivy Leaguers.

Oh, yeah, Dartmouth, I forgot they're Ivy.

I've watching Leave Her to Heaven to distract myself.

I HATE THE COMMERCIALS HERE IN LA JOLLA& SAN DIEGO AREAS!

I told the Republican local officials today "Do you think Adam Schiff is going to lose"?

They laughed.

R457 - "Tim Gunderson is a liar" - LOL. "Tim Gunderson isn't a liar!" I think it's going to be a blue sweep in SD, like in previous elections.

And Tim Gunderson IS a liar.

[quote]Talking to reporters in Palm Beach, Trump was asked how he voted on Florida’s abortion ballot measure, which would make abortion legal until a fetus becomes viable.

[quote]“Just stop talking about that,” Trump responded.

Philadelphia is already at 71.3% of 2020 turnout and they still have 8 hours of voting left to go.

Harris wins Guam.

R460- Is that GOOD?Its almost 1 o'cock.

It’s really good for Pennsylvania as it’s the state we need to win most.

What time do we think Dump will make a speech declaring himself the winner?

R464- The MINUTE results from red states start coming in, he will get the ball rolling

I saw Trump answering questions after voting. Very low energy. Bragged that Melania’s book was #1 on the NYT best seller list. It’s #6.

When there's even a whiff of a red mirage somewhere, r464.

Leave Her to Heaven is surely one of the most beautiful films ever shot.

Checking at lunch as promised

We have been balls out since 630am. It was slammin for the first hour, then slowed down to a steady stream all day.

No real assholes, several confused voters and two voters in their fucking FIFTIES who have never voted before. Omg. They certainly fit the " profile" of the traitor's crowd, but I have no way to know .

Anyway, no scares, just mostly confusion and weird shit issues. I don't have much time, so I will explain in detail after I get home around 9pm tonight.

Still feeling good. Turnout is good.

R466 And Melania standing silently nearby wearing huge sunglasses. Weirdos.

David Archuleta posted a photo showing he has voted in Tennessee today!

R469 bless you. My hat is off!

Where the fuck has everyone disappeared to?

The other thread(s).

Lunch r473. And to the polls.

I've been here, switching between CNN livestream, a few Twitter feeds, DL and office work. The latter is of course suffering today.

I live in azure blue Brooklyn but here is something curious. Whenever I've voted before, there hasn't been much of line and I'd breeze in and out within 20 minutes. OMG, now, the line is out the building and wraps around the block. I have NEVER seen like this.

People are out in force.

Which thread(s) are currently most active?

[quote] Where the fuck has everyone disappeared to?

It’s no longer three days until the election.

A couple of my coworkers and I stood on a freeway overpass in Austin this morning with an American flag and several “VOTE!” signs. We got great responses, including a motorcycle cop who flashed his lights and did that weird honk/siren they do when they go through an intersection.

This evening, as we’ve done for every big election (national or statewide, like when Beto ran for governor) since 2008, a bunch of old friends and I gather at an old bar near the UT campus. Big Democratic hangout and all the TVs are outside and tuned to MSNBC and CNN. The moment Ohio was called for Obama in 2008 is still one of the most thrilling moments I’ve ever experienced and it was so wonderful to be with a few close friends and hundreds of like-minded people. Hope to get that feeling again tonight!! 💙

r479 I am in Chicago, and if they call the election for Kamala tonight -- and please, please, please let that happen -- I hope there are celebrations in the streets. I'll be there.

Holy Fuck

I hope what I just heard , from a very good source , who would know, isn’t correct because if true it is just terrible news. This is just unbelievable and at this late hour,

keep watching the news today or tomorrow.

How are you feeling about the election?

You better be jesting with that post, r481.

[quote]I hope what I just heard , from a very good source , who would know, isn’t correct because if true it is just terrible news.

Fuck off r481. You fool no one.

Yesterday was horrible; I was so stressed out I shouldn't have been driving (flinching and jerking the wheel at shadows). I had to have a blood draw and the phlebotomist said I was "jumpy."

Killed most of a bottle of wine before bed and got nine hours, but woke up feeling drained (not hung over).

This has really gotten to me. Julianne Moore, seriously. You bitches help me hang on.

If R481 spontaneously explodes, I will be the first to TASTE THEIR BLOOD!!!

EAT SHIT R481!!

A JD Vance joke, courtesy of Popbitch.

What do hillbillies do for Halloween?

Pump kin.

Hey we are all stressed a little levity is not out of order, yes a lame joke. Now don’t you feel a lot better?

How do I feel?

On the edge of glory!!!

R481, your post makes no sense. "At this late hour"?Huh? Any bad news about Harris (or Trump, for that matter) is too late to change any votes. How can "at this late hour" be anything to freak out about? Sounds like you're trolling.

[quote]"Voter turnout is extremely high,” said Philadelphia Democratic Party Chairman Robert Brady, the former congressman. “I’ve been doing elections for 50 years chair and I’ve been chairman for 40 years and now it’s the highest we’ve ever seen for this point."

I think the thing that we need to watch for tomorrow - if Harris comes up with a reasonably certain win tonight - is violence at ballot-counting centers in places like Detroit, Philly and Milwaukee. Remember the MAGAs banging on the windows of the counting center in downtown Detroit, in 2020? Screaming about fraud? I worry that this year, they won't be content with just hanging around outside.

I hope and pray no one is hurt but I just don't believe that will be the case this year. I also worry that, if any counting centers are breached, and ballots compromised or destroyed, Trump will use it to throw everything up to SCOTUS or the House to decide, and thereby "install" him as Pres. Long shot I know, but you all know he and his followers won't go away quietly.

I have so much nervous energy, I'm washing my fucking baseboards.

My house is clean and ready whatever the result.

I may just go workout again.

Apparently Georgia is going to be releasing approximately 80% of their total vote (all of the early vote and mail-in received thus far) within the first hour of polls closing.

Raffensperger estimates 5.3M people will vote in Georgia this year, up from 4.9M in 2020.

If you need to expend a bit more energy, r492, you can always come over and wash my fucking baseboards.

Is it too soon to feel hopeful? Because DAMN IT, I am starting to feel hopeful.

R496, I am starting to feel kinda hopeful. Against my better judgement.

I don't do baseboards but I've jerked off three time today.

[quote] Raffensperger estimates 5.3M people will vote in Georgia this year, up from 4.9M in 2020.

I guess the efforts to get low propensity voters to the polls was effective.

I’m feeling a bit queasy, I think I’m coming down with something. It could just be nerves.

America is currently in the process of eliminating a most foul orange package that's been festering in its guts for nine long years now. It's gonna be painful and the stench will be ungodly, but also ungodly will be the relief felt afterwards.

R499, get some ginger chews,

[quote]I’m feeling a bit queasy, I think I’m coming down with something. It could just be nerves.

I'd suggest what I plan on doing once work is done.

I'm going to smoke copious amounts of pot.

If we went to Georgetown, we’d be taken care of.

r502 I smoked copious amounts of pot on election night in 2020 and regretted it. I was having multiple panic attacks that Trump would win.

That bust of Harris in the photo at r503 looks more like Gene Simmons than Kamala. I had to do a double take!

I have never been on the "fake Melania" train and dismissed it as BlueAnon nonsense. But this is not fucking Melania. Doesn't even move like her!

[quote][R502] I smoked copious amounts of pot on election night in 2020 and regretted it. I was having multiple panic attacks that Trump would win.

I also brought Mexican Valium back from my cruise. I don't mind sharing.

That's creepy r506. She is also too smiley and relaxed, for real Melania.

You may be onto something....

Lordy, I hope she wins.

It's so close I can taste it.

Good morning Americans! 7.20 am Wednesday morning here. Good luck today. We are all watching - all tv stations are covering election live and a lot of us are watching. We are all counting on you and Australians overwhelmingly hope for a Kamala victory and sanity. Sending strength and love.

This is how Australians would vote in your presidential election:

67% Kamala.

33% Fuckhead.

It's been a miraculous few months since Joe handed the baton to Kamala. The donations, support, polls and good feelings. If she loses well, she has nothing to be ashamed of.

The people who didn't vote- or voted for Trump- will not get much. The 'owning the libtards' glow will fade, winter will rush in and they'll have the same old problems in their fucked-up lives.

And we'll make Trump's 4 years in office a living hell.

Rats.... ship...

Trump 46% of the popular vote.

This image has been going around again.

R506, for the first time ever, same.

Except why parade her so close to scrutiny?

(And if it is her can you imagine Trump: Honey, maybe could you take off the sunglasses inside, for the cameras? Let them see your beautiful face? Melanie: NO!)

That's crazy R512. Trump media will be absolutely worthless tomorrow. LOL!

I'm with KamalHER!

How funny would it be if the election is called and Trump is just like "Fuck it, I tried, best of luck to her. Peace out!"

I'm very close to canceling my subscription to the NYTimes.

Wordle's not that hard.

[quote]She is also too smiley and relaxed, for real Melania.

Yeah, that woman doesn't look like she wants to murder Trump. Can't be Melanie.

That means she wouldn't even show up for him on election day.

PA Dem party leaders say they expect PA results by Wednesday night. 😑

First exit polls coming out in a few minutes.

*Or not. Wrong time zones, sorry.

This thread looks like it'll max out in a few hours... there is an "OFFICIAL ELECTION THREAD 2024" that is highly active and will probably spawn a sequel or two. Here:

Thank you r525!

DL, refresh my memory. When in 2016 did it start to look bad for Clinton?

When Florida results came in. And Florida counts fast.

Thanks r528

[quote] When Florida results came in. And Florida counts fast.

Pennsylvania and other states should learn how to do it as quickly. Pennsylvanians should be ashamed that whole countries using paper ballots can count faster than them.

This is the worst gender reveal in history. Just tell us it’s a girl and be done with it.

Refresh my memory... was it thought she'd carry Florida or did he blow it out and it was the margin that spooked? I remember as FLA. came in feeling uneasy and thinking something was wrong but damned if I can remember the exact trigger.

R532, do any of your medications list brain fog as a side effect?

Trump took FL by a smallish margin in 2016, she was expected to perhaps take it since I believe Obama took it in prior elections. The main trigger point of the night was when they showed NH being so close (Clinton did take it), and then afterwards it became clear that Trump had MI and PA in the bag. That's when she called to concede to him.

I remember Virginia being close as well, which was causing concern because Tim Kaine was actually on the ticket. What a horrible, horrible night.

If I'm ever looking for ineffective snark, R533, I'll let you know. You're the kind of poster who makes choice so important for women.

The fake wife in sunglasses is cherry, what a loser!

R533 is a troll, thankfully they should all disappear by Wednesday.

[quote]I need to get out of the house.

I do too, so I'm about to take a walk to the liquor store.

[quote]I do too, so I'm about to take a walk to the liquor store.

Fuck the liquor store. I just did a bump of ketamine.

Are your initial EM R540?

Clinton had a great ground operation in Florida and Trump had none so yeah Florida was the turning point in 2016.

Checking in again from the polls. We are over 50% turnout just in person. Word is Hamilton county is 53% total turnout as of two hours ago with two hours yet to go.

Everyone is calm, patient and no disturbances.

[quote] Raffensperger estimates 5.3M people will vote in Georgia this year, up from 4.9M in 2020.

I don't find that reassuring.

I do. Women are angry.

Yeah, ElderLez, but it's been the accepted wisdom of late that a larger turnout benefits Trump. That he needs to bring out his low propensity young male voters.

R545 Where on earth are you getting that from?

From following this campaign cycle very closely, R546. It's been pretty well accepted that Democrats did so well in the post-Dobbs midterm & special elections because those elections mostly drew from high-propensity, educated voters. In the past, it was understood that Democrats did better the higher the turnout. Per, the political professionals, that no longer applies. Another sign of the Great Realignment.

[quote] Yeah, ElderLez, but it's been the accepted wisdom of late that a larger turnout benefits Trump. That he needs to bring out his low propensity young male voters.

Johnny Rapid voted in Georgia, but he doesn’t indicate who he voted for.

My vibe is the night will look bad initially-- especially if we lose either NC or GA-- I remember how bad it looked for Biden in 2020- very late , like midnight,,,

I feel that I will bow out tonight around 10:30 NOT matter what a just pray for the best

This really brings out every fear and neurosis you even had in your life--

We are a fucked up word to come this close to obliteration.. So sad.

^^ fucking HELL -NO MATTER WHAT/ AND JUST PRAY FOR THE BEST

I find that most of the accepted wisdom of late has been coming from men.

^ Well, the Times has bought into the new-found theory about high turnout elections.

"Stalked by my Husband's Ex" on Lifetime Channel is what I'm watching.

I've lost the mental and emotional stamina to watch MSNBC and CNN right now.

You and me both, r553.

I'm watching I Love Lucy.

We just got out of our polling location about 39 minutes ago in Hamilton County Ohio.

We had nearly 60% turnout just today. Not sure how many early voted or voted by mail.

We had people from different fucking counties show up and want to vote and then be perplexed that they couldn’t vote at this location. All white males.

It was a long day, but we had no incidents of assholery. Just dumb or weird shit. Mostly people showing up who wanted to vote in this precinct but were registered in other counties (3 people that came to my table in just 1 hour), people who had moved but didn’t change their address with the BOE so they had to vote provisionally and fill out the address change thing. We had at least two show up that didn’t register to vote in time for this election (young males again).

The voting location manager told us that he clocked our check in times as 30 - 45 seconds, so nobody had to wait in line more than 10 minutes to get their ballot.

We did have issues with two of the three scanners fucking up about 30 minutes after we opened. Not sure why, but it got fixed within 20 minutes of them going down.

Now I’m tired and thirsty. But I will stay with you all for a few more hours.

Thanks for the update, r555!

r555, I adore you.

FWIW, we are also an early pickup for the BOE so they can start posting results for the networks.

So any Cincinnati numbers you see start coming in are from our voting location and probably a few other smaller burbs in the outer limits.

Suicidal.

R497 at least we know who to blame and why.

[quote] We had people from different fucking counties show up........ All white males

[quote] (young males again).

If this wasn't a sign :)

I'm opptimistic! Surely the electorate knowing what they know of Donald Trump would never entrust their country to him again. Plus the women of America would never allow it.

American Democracy got fucked by the voters!!

GOD help us all!!

Too fucking late asshole

Thanks God, you could have told the latinos that they were fucking themselves out of the USA.

Sorry to break this to you but the Latinos work hard. They are coming after the elitists first then the queers.

They're going to get DEPORTED. Dtrump& company do not care if they are citizens or not, they all look alike.

Well we could play that family favorite game “which dem will be charged with a federal crime first?” I include the Never Trumpers as Dems in this version of the game.

[quote] Well we could play that family favorite game “which dem will be charged with a federal crime first?” I include the Never Trumpers as Dems in this version of the game.

Can you please first confirm those rules?

Nightmare state

Nightmare state