Jon Stewart defends racist comedian at Trump rally

Disappointing.

Its always been a shame that Jon Stewart has ever had a platform. I've never found him anything but pretentious. His 'too cool for school' posturing is just tiresome. Its easy to be an unconvincing contrarian. That's his schtick.

If Harris wins, I hope she refuses to appear on The Daily Show or any other platform featuring Jon Stewart

A boo for Halloween.

I can’t imagine The Daily Show getting ratings any higher than his failed Apple show.

Oddly enough I was just reading this comment and I realized that it applies to Stewart here

It's a Gen X thing. Gen X is just like that, no matter which side of the aisle they are on. "Those irony-loving Gen X weirdos pride themselves on how little they take anything seriously, Trump included. Generation Daria.

But when you see it come out of someone else’s mouth, it hits a lot different. The image of this cocky little pipsqueak being that nasty made them feel as gross as Trump should."

That was why the Puerto Rican thing broke through. Because the person who said it was a Millennial. It's like if you're sixteen and drinking and smoking weed but you're horrified when your ten year old brother starts doing it.

Oh look. Another Trump thread.

He got full of himself after 9/11 and became difficult to watch. He takes himself way too seriously and thinks he should be the arbiter of how people should think and feel.

So now we hate Jon Stewart?

I have no problem with insult comics or anything of the sort. The fact is it wasn’t a comedy fest. It was a goddamn Nazi rally!

R6 Sorry, why are we still shitting on Gen X? Not you, R6 but that post you linked, and there was a thread about ragging on Gen X for loving Trump...I am a 51 year old Gen X and I have been so anti-Trump that I was mortified from the second he descended the golden escelator nine years ago and I have never stopped being horrified and appalled by him. And before that, I loathed him so much, I can safely say that I have never watched a single episode of The Apprentice in my life. I had no idea it had gone out for fifteen seasons. My BS detector has had his number this entire time. Where as my 74 year old mother hopped on the Trump escalator, going up, and it has pretty much ruined our relationship. So, is it the older end of the Gen X? Am I on the younger end? Do I just run with the cool crowd? I simply cannot relate to being lumped into this Gen X = Trump category, and I take offense to it, considering the degree of visceral fight/flight I have felt about him pretty much my entire life.

No mention of the fact that Trump and his buddies only otherize brown people.

Puerto Rico is sick of being treated like crap by Trump. This is just the nail in the coffin

Stewart has been very good in recent weeks. And speaking usefully to a viewing audience who isn't glued to cable news etc. I understand his perspective... and a roast comic is going to say offensive things by definition. There are two central problems to Stewart's position on this:

1. At a roast the expectation is to hear offensive things. The very nature of the event is that folks give "permission" for the offense to happen. This was a rally focusing on hate of immigrants. In order to elect a US President. No Puerto Rican American gave any "permission" for the racist offensive comments, "jokes"...

2. A roast comedian's jokes that we laugh at... should be funny in addition to offensive. Nothing in the routine was witty or funny.

So, in conclusion, Stewart is wrong. Very wrong.

Did he forgive the watermelon joke? Not sure why that is not in the national dialog?

Seems like we skipped that part.

You guys should watch the full show. He made lots of great points about the MSG rally. Of course I am disappointed that he wasn’t hard on this comedian but he was right on everything else

I thought I was going crazy this election cycle. I would try to watch the Jon Stewart Daily Show stuff, for nostalgia's sake, and he was irritating the hell out of me. I couldn't tell if I was overreacting but he seemed to be doing "both sides" take downs, and it felt like he was normalizing Trump in the process. It was upsetting to watch, so I stopped.

Jon Stewart is the Bill Maher of Gen X. He belongs in a garbage can.

the comedian has a point. Have you ever been to Puerto Rico?

Anita in West Side Story had a point. "Puerto Rico you ugly island. Island of tropic diseases..."

I've been. It's gorgeous

R18 Oh, certainly. PR is a horrible place.

r19=George Chikaris

I've only been to San Juan. Maybe I missed the good parts.

Damn, what happened to Jon Stewart over the years.

He bought his own bullshit, R23.

Look at this shithole.

Do people really go around perceiving each other as belonging to a particular nicknamed generation and judging them in this way? It seems really brain-dead to me. "Oh, he's a Millennial, so when he says something offensive, it just hits worse than if an Xer says it," or whatever the argument is. They make life way too fucking complicated. Why don't they just learn to judge someone's words and actions for what they are?

r26 Eh you tried

Hear, hear R26

I read it was Lurch Trump’s idea to have the comedian work the Hitler rally. If true can you imagine what a shit head that trump kid is?

[quote] Do people really go around perceiving each other as belonging to a particular nicknamed generation and judging them in this way? It seems really brain-dead to me.

I generally agree, but Jon Stewart is 15-20 years younger than Bill Maher and seems to be auditioning to replace him as the "edgy contrarian."

So Jon Stewart has decided to be the Jimmy Fallon of 2024. Boy bye. Is he voting Trump? I don’t understand why he needed to weigh in. It just normalizes it. Something must be going on.

Don’t these people have enough money! Their egos won’t let them walk away.

[quote] "Those irony-loving Gen X weirdos pride themselves on how little they take anything seriously, Trump included.

And then they wonder why nobody takes them seriously and just dismisses them? I mean if your whole attitude is "I don't care, I don't take anything seriously" why wouldn't you be skipped over in favor of somebody who does?

It is time to cancel Jon Stewart. This is the last straw. He totally missed the point of what a racist rally this was.

The whole anti-PC thing is so tired and worn out. The well has gone dry.

R35, this so-called 'comedian' made a series of vile, racist jokes about multiple groups of people at a *Presidential rally*. This wasn't just some comedy roast in a stand-up club. It violated basic standards of decency. And there were other speakers who made vile comments about Kamala Harris, calling her a prostitute and other disgusting things. This is not just about being PC. It is about basic standards of decency and morality for the Presidency of the United States.

R36 I think you misread my post but love that energy. For anybody who was not voted early; I suggest you go while it’s slower because the lines will be long on Election Day.

Tony Hinchcliffe is actually pretty funny and most of the jokes at the roasts during the past 3 years (including all the ann coulter jokes) were written by him and were HILARIOUS. I only watched some of his own stand up. It just wasn't that funny and I turned it off, but it wasn't racist. It was just boring and not that funny

But the statements he made at the rally were just stupid and racist. They weren't jokes. Even most of the audience was shocked. You could see it in their faces. Some people even booed. But of course, many cheered. He knew his audience were a bunch of low IQ scumbags and he didn't even bother to write clever jokes. He just made stupid statements that a 9 year old MAGA child could have come up with

SHAME ON JON STEWART. He obviously didn't listen to the stupid shit Tony said at the rally. Comedians are stupid people. Many think themselves and other comedians have the right to say anything and no one should be allowed to complain. They are very much like MAGAts in that respect. It's sad to realize Jon is the same way. Again, SHAME ON JON STEWART and the stupid racist MAGAt tony hinchcliffe

R36, pretty soon someone will call Kamala Harris , the N word and then the floodgates will be open.

Trump desperately wants to normalize openly calling black people the N word

[quote]Those irony-loving Gen X weirdos pride themselves on how little they take anything seriously, Trump included

That has to be one of the stupidest things I've ever heard. Most Gen Xers are not this way. I don't know any adults this age who "pride themselves on how little they take anything seriously". And you know that. Most anti-trump people are Gen X age. Just STFU

R33, you sound stupid. You do understand that Gen X people were born between 1965 to 1980? Right? Are you telling us that people don't take 40 to 64 year olds seriously?

Political humor has never been Tony Hinchcliffe's strong suit. Even when he appears on Joe Rogan, and the conversation turns to politics (mostly steered by Rogan), you can tell how uncomfortable he gets because he's tragically ill-informed and not invested. Picking him to open a political rally was stupid from the Trump campaign, which may have cost them the election.

Tony's an insult comic in the Lisa Lampanelli tradition and soars when he's roasting celebrities. He was dumb to use that same approach by punching down regular people at a fucking political rally.

[quote] Most Gen Xers are not this way. I don't know any adults this age who "pride themselves on how little they take anything seriously".

Gen X bragging about how little they care and how too cool they are is endemic all over the internet the last few years. It's all over Tik Tok and Facebook and Reddit, not to mention here. Let's not act disingenuous.

[quote] Most anti-trump people are Gen X age.

Trump’s highest level of support comes from GenX. Unfortunately, we are the cohort of Ted Cruz and Kristi Noem.

[quote] Harris has majority support among GenZ/Millennials (53%), Baby Boomers (53%), and the Silent/Greatest Generation (52%). Trump (53%) has majority support among GenX.

That tracks, R44. I'd rather much more deal with 70 and 80 year olds right now than the current 50 and 60 year olds. Those are some real assholes.

Was Stewart being sarcastic or ironic? This seems very out of character for him.

So many of you are condemning Stewart without watching the show. He unequivocally slams Trump and supports Harris. Stop with the bandwagoning.

R47, even if Stewart is anti-Trump, he still missed the plot here. He should not have given ANY cover to the vile filth spewed out at the Nazi Rally.

Here are his comments at 5.15.

I mean...I don't mind offensive humor whether it be racist, homophobic, misogynistic, etc. The one condition I have is that it's actually funny.

I think the Joe Rogan comedians of today focus more on offense and less on humor.

[quote]Was Stewart being sarcastic or ironic? This seems very out of character for him.

Where have you been all year?

Stewart made it his mission to denigrate Biden ever since he re-joined The Daily Show.

Context is all. Orange is not a light and funny topic. It's wearying. 10 years of orange crap.

Stewart just said that the man was funny and cited his previous gigs ( Brady Roast), etc. , and that what could anyone expect from a roast comedian? In the long run, Hinchcliffe might be the very thing that brings a victory to Harris.

Comedians see themselves as underdogs and have a cult-like loyalty to each other, which is why Stewart defends these turds, feeding into delusions that their ancient, unoriginal jokes about homos and dark-skinned people are on par with the anti-establishment brilliance of Lenny Bruce or George Carlin.

Comedians always defend other comedians under attack for being offensive.

It’s a union rule.

Disgusting-this is him saving his ass if dump wins

This thread (like Biden's comments last night about "garbage") distracts from the more important issues and news that can determine who wins this election. Some general comments about this thread:

1. Stewart was very anti-Biden since he returned. It wasn't "both sides" stuff, he just thought Biden was too old and couldn't beat Trump. Since Harris took the lead, he (and the show... the other comedians on the nights Stewart isn't on) has been effective and wickedly incisive about the danger of Trump.

2. Gen X is a generational cohort that has embodied "post-modernism" - cynical and self-referential. They are quintessential slackers yet also are full of grievance about how they feel left out of what their culture has for "others"... in short, there is fertile ground for the kind of anger and distrust (and speculation about conspiracies) that grows Trumpism. It's not surprising they are the one cohort where the majority support Trump.

3. Related to pt. 2 - the MAGA movement would not be possible with out the dismantling of faith in institutions that happened in "the 60s"... an analysis too big for this thread. Sorry. I digress.

Watch The Daily Show if you haven't recently. All of it seems really effective and important attacks on the MAGA insanity.

I’ve never paid attention to him. He doesn’t look very funny.

To paraphrase a comment on the other thread about this: I dont think Jon Stewart is a racist, he just thinks racist jokes are funny. All comics do. BUT I dont think Stewart would find Hinchcliff funny if he made a joke about Stewarts beloved veterans and 9/11 first responders.

So if this guy made just as offensive a joke, but about Jews, would Stewart be okay with it too?

[quote]So if this guy made just as offensive a joke, but about Jews, would Stewart be okay with it too?

He did!

Stewart is scum.

Lots and lots and lots of Gen X are hoping praying and VOTING FOR KAMALA HARRIS

I think Stewart was saying, “hey, this is an insult comedian, what did you expect?” I have a feeling he didn’t watch the whole bit, which is pretty horrifying.

Of course this unknown comic is now famous, so maybe he knows what he’s doing.

[quote]So many of you are condemning Stewart without watching the show. He unequivocally slams Trump and supports Harris.

No, he doesn't. Stewart both-sides issues to the point that he's unwatchable.

Jon Stewart lost all credibility when he abandoned [italic]The Daily Show[/italic] in the run-up to the 2016 election. He and Colbert had their stupid rally in DC, drawing in millions, and then did absolutely nothing to capitalize on it. He egged DonOld to run, thinking it would be just shits and giggles and he had no chance of winning... then Stewart got bored and decided to retire (rather than build a team to host TDS, alleviating the pressure on Stewart to be "on" every night) and walked away from what was the most influential news program on air. TDS was where people from 18 to 34 were getting their news; they don't read newspapers, watch cable, or frankly, pay much attention to politics in general. An invitation to any politician to appear on TDS was golden, prized well beyond any invitation to appear on cable or the Sunday political shows because it mainlined right into Gen Z bloodstreams.

And then Hillary lost by 90,000 votes spread across three states... all of which have major universities and colleges where TDS was extraordinarily popular. If Jon Stewart had been on the air and told his audience to vote, the trajectory of this nation and the world would have been considerably better. All Stewart had to do was stick it out for another 6 months.

And he's done nothing to earn any grace since he abandoned the country in our time of need, and belittling Biden over his age while not saying a word about Mango Mussolini exhibiting the same and worse is just diarrhea icing on a shit cake. I can't forgive him.

^ Well said.

Well said from here too! Stewart used to be so sexy/cute in his day but now-“Well- being a Christian woman I can’t say it’’

I used to love Stewart. Now I think he's just a tool of whoever wants to hire him. He needs fame or he's no one.

It’s just so easy for rich people to be casual about Trump.

R67, that is beyond ridiculous. He’s always been extremely liberal. And he didn’t need game, he walked away from it. He came back just for this nutso of an election.

Btw, I have the OP blocked, and I block MAGATs. Make what you will of that.

R68 wins the thread!

Stewart isn't in any way casual about Trump, which you would know if you watched his show. But you don't. You're bandwagoning. Whatever, guys. Keep eating your own.

[quote]Jon Stewart is 15-20 years younger than Bill Maher

Maher is 68, Stewart is 61. He's not even a Gen Xer, he's a boomer.

I can’t believe Jon Stewart was at the Trump rally. OP, think he went to the rally knowing that the guy would need to be defended?

61 is Gen X

We’ve already had multiple threads on Stewart playing the both sides shit. He trashed Biden repeatedly for being brain dead. Enough gaslighting.

[quote]61 is Gen X

Close, but no cigar.

[quote]Joe Rogan Says He Warned Tony Hinchcliffe About That Puerto Rico Joke: ‘That’s Gonna Get You Stabbed’

Yes; Joe really thinks Puerto Ricans are violent thugs who carry switchblades, always looking for trouble — like the Sharks in “West Side Story.”

[quote]It’s just so easy for rich people to be casual about Trump.

R68, exactly. As you said, they have nothing to lose and nothing to fear, so it's easier for them to face the prospect of another Trump presidency.

R78 On the other hand, Elon has a message for the poors…

Would he think that a crude joke about Jews perishing during the Holocaust was also funny? I sure hope not.

R69 you’re a very bad man-you smell like trump ass.

He's a cunt! Like most men his age.

Of course. This old fuck is trying and dying to stay relevant or controversial or ANYTHING!

We will fuck your ass up, Mr. Jon Stewart

Hal Sparks laying out the truth.

Jon can suck it.

Good for Hal Sparks calling phony baloney Jon Stewart.

Jordan Klepper should be the one hosting The Daily Show.

BINGO!