The Real Housewives of Beverly Hills Season 14 Trailer

From what I hear Dorit is the one who gets the bad girl edit. Sutton brings Jennifer Tilly to the table so she gets credit for that.

It took me ten minutes after watching this trailer to realize they dumped non-entity Crystal and her ugly leather pants.

I think Sutton is the perfect Housewife:

Filthy rich;

A tendency to have irrational reactions and breakdowns;

Likes to drink to excess;

A horrible dresser;

And. she always has some random biographical tidbit that makes the viewer say “WTF?!” (“Merce Cunnigham was my mentor and I have his ashes!” “I didn’t realize until I was divorced that I owned a baseball team!” “Jennifer Tilly is my BFF!”)

She’s also friendly with Gina from Orange County-Gina’s ex worked for Sutton’s ex.

I'll miss Man-Marie said no one ever.

R3 The biggest irony about Sutton is that she has absolutely no fashion taste, yet owns a clothing store.

R4 Whoever this new replacement is, she makes Man-Marie look like a petite flower.

Sutton has a weird shape and the clothes she wears do not look good on her.

R7 she has the typical anorexic body of an ageing Beverly Hills socialite. Funny to think Rinna brought her on the show. Everyone Rinna brought on ended up hating her and are no longer friends except maybe Eileen Davidson.

I miss Rinna's nonsense and Denise Richards.

R7, she has hot dog legs.

I miss Eileen.

Eileen doesn't need this show. She has a real job.

Eileen had class and kept Rinna in check; it’s like Rinna was worried she would never get invited back to DAYS if she was a cunt to Eileen.

Once she left Rinna became a monster. She needed to go; the glee on her face in that scene after Aspen, when Kyle and Kathy are discussing their fractured relationship, was repulsive.

I turned on Rinna when she started the rumor that Kim was a drug addict at deaths door.

R14 She's a slut pig! I wish I could shove this bunny up her boney ass!

Teddi and are divorcing. PLEASE respect their privacy.

Since I’m struggling again is Kyle going to steal my god-damned house again?

She's going to steal your grand babies!

Another season with these washed up hoes? Pass!

YOU HAVE A HOUSE?

Kyle was on Kelly and Mark this morning when they were doing their show from Palm Springs (Kyle probably drove over from the goddamn house she stole from Kim).

She said Maurice has moved out of the house and that she and Dorit aren't as close as they used to be after this season. She talked about her relationship with Kathy, which seems to be healing again.

I was kind of surprised that Kelly asked Kyle about the Morgan Wade rumors. Kyle did a pretty good song and dance and didn't address whether the rumors were true, which leads me to believe they are and that Kyle is livin' it up in dyke world these days. I wonder if she and Morgan will go the Dinah Shore invitational together.

The dumbing down of America continues.

[QUOTE] Sutton has a weird shape and the clothes she wears do not look good on her.

Egg with two toothpicks.

You see Maurizio? Kyle isn't the only one on an Ozempic journey.

And Sutton is shaped like Mr. Peanut.

R16 Apparently, Teddi was cheating on her husband with her horse trainer.

I wonder if philandering is part of the curriculum when you sign up for her life coaching sessions.

I am sure her lacklustre husband couldn't gather wet anymore. Women hate supporting a man, especially ambitious women with their own businesses.

We're on a slip'n'slide of stupidity, r22. Might as well lube up.

I love watching these hags

WHAT A WHORE

It’s interesting that Teddi and Tamra from OC do a podcast together and both of them are imploding.

Talk about a whoopsie daisy.

Is Teddi still starving people? It’s ironic considering her both loved sucking on chili dogs outside of the Tastee Freeze

How do Lisa and Harry pay their bills since she was fired from the show?

Harry bakes pies just like Mildred Pierce, r32.

R32. How does he pay his tricks?

Harry is bottling his sauce and selling it in supermarkets a la Bethenny.

It's named after his wife. Skinny Cunt Pasta Sauce.

Have you tried their chunky fibroid flavor R36? I hear it comes with an estrogen patch.

That’s why at the end of the day Kathy Hilton won.

I believe everything Lisa Rinna said about her.

“I saw the devil and it was Kathy Hilton”

However, she has forever money and status and is back on the show.

Lisa…does…not.

^ Trust me, Lisa was great TV and great for the Franchise. After a cooling off period, if she wanted to go back, she could go back. The network is greedy and doesn't care about the overall wellbeing of the cast. But Lisa is enjoying her fashion "IT" woman status, traveling to all the major shows all over the world and being photographed. She's probably also waiting a comparable enough villain to go up against. Once they have destabilized Kyle enough, where she is no longer powerful enough to pull cast strings by threatening to walk, Lisa will be back, if she wants to be.

And no, I am not LR OR her PR.

R39 are you Eileen D? I miss you most of all!

R40 HOW DARE YOU!

Camille Donatacci Grammer Meyer. Now there’s a woman who knows how to marry and divorce a rich man.

You lose, Dorit.

Season 1 entitled cunt Camille was the best. Then watching her get dumped by Kelsey and humbled was hilarious.

R43 He was pernicious.

R44 better than watching the morally corrupt, Faye Resnick!

Camille was such a cunt in season one that Kelsey, the adulterer who humiliated his wife on national TV, got the public’s sympathy.

Camille was on the cover of US or In Touch with the headline “The Most Hated Woman in America.”

All of these cunts are so tired. No one cares about Kyle or Dorit or Sutton. Fuck off you old cunts!

Camille danced on MTV and will never let you forget it

Camille was so snide about Faye being in Playboy…but HER nude pics were a lot more vulgar. I can’t find them now but I recall her sitting on something with her legs spread wide with her cunt lips flapping in the breeze.

Sitting spread eagled on a chimney pot.

Oddly enough, I have helped, worked with a lot of the Real housewives ladies - especially NYC and Beverly Hills, Atlanta. Camille was by far the nicest and most gracious of them all. I was expecting someone different and was very pleasantly surprised. Most of the women are actually very nice. I remember watching Sonja dote on her daughter and making sure she said "please" and "thank you." The only one who really lives up to her TV persona is Ramona. She is exactly as you'd expect, entitled and obnoxious, always wanting something for free, something extra.

R51 is your name Jill Zarin?

Well, I love Boz. She's genuine and has a sense of humor. I think she'll be fun. Jennifer Tilly is a nice addition but we don't need Kathy back. Dorit is still a big fake.

Erika was the only one who got the theme of surrealism. The rest looked like a bad episode of Project Runway.

[quote] Camille was by far the nicest and most gracious of them all.

Camille seems like an OK person. I wonder why Kelsey Grammer was so mean to her, during and after the divorce. She was lucky in that he was so hell-bent on marrying his new, flight attendant wife, that she ended up with a ton of money ($100 million or something like that).

Boz was more Met Gala but still looked stunning.

At R42, what the hell is going on with Camille's "hair." It looks so fake.

[quote] I turned on Rinna when she started the rumor that Kim was a drug addict at deaths door.

How do we know this rumor is untrue?

I loved Erika's dress too. Doris is trying to stay relevant, but she just going to come off as an unappealing asshole.

Also, I hope we get to see something authentic from Jennifer Tilly, who will always be an icon for Bullets Over Broadway. Right now, she's just Sutton's lapdog.

Jennifer Tilly’s house was quirky but looks expensive. Guess it’s that Chucky money.

Jennifer Tilly got a huge settlement from her ex-husband, Simpsons developer/showrunmer/executive producer Sam Simon. For years she got 1/3 of his Simpsona residual money. She also got money when he died.

“You say I’m not a real friend, you criticise me, and so now when I give PK commiserations on your divorce, I’m the bad guy? You were ignoring me, so why would I say anything to you? Why should I be criticised for being nice to PK? Make that make sense, Dorit. And by the way, fuck you for thinking that”.

Has it started?

The fake scene with Dorito driving with a cig dangling from her lips was iconic but not in a good way.

Dorit had to split from PeeKay in order to keep her diamond. Bitch doesn't have a storyline otherwise.

I don't believe they're really separated. I think it's for the show. Wouldn't be the first time those two have faked a storyline.

I think he’s irritated by her fussiness and stupidity, and she’s pissed that he doesn’t have the money he had 20 years ago because she’s only just realised he is a grifter.

[quote] Bitch doesn't have a storyline otherwise.

Agreed. But at least she'll always have a table at Buca di Beppo.

R69 Hi Vanderpump! We miss you!

Dorit will be making a play for Mauricio—she needs the money!

R71 she's a little "long in the tooth" for that perv

R71 Unless Dorit has a cock between her knees, Mauricio wouldn't be interested.

R73 we’ll that’s a rumor I haven’t ever heard!

R73 - Kathy Hilton

I needed these bitches right about now.

Sutton's party was a total shitshow.

I was quite surprised that they showed Dorito smoking... they usually hide those things. Production must hate her! What other housewives smoke?

They caught LVP smoking in season 4 when the cast ganged up on her.

Kim vapes.

On New York, we’ve seen LuAnn, Dorinda and Carole smoking.

It's the same story with Kyle as it was with Lisa. 'I didn't realize how manipulative she is...." rinse -- repeat. Dorito is literally a non-story friend of who somehow keeps getting a diamond.

In the previous seasons, Dorit had protection from the Fuck Force Five. She also would start one big fight with another cast member (last season it was Garcelle), and wear or say something stupid enough to carry her on for another season. The producers were also probably waiting for their financial house of cards to collapse.

Now-Rinna and Teddy are gone. Kyle is dealing with her own shit. Garcelle hates her (and by extension, Sutton). She needs this job and bas to do something to keep it. So please-welcome back to the stage, cunty season 7 Dorit.

[quote] They caught LVP smoking in season 4 when the cast ganged up on her.

Both she and Ken were smoking, IIRC. What a scene. They both looked completely defeated.

I must say I was impressed with Yolanda's figure in that episode. She was the only one wearing a bikini. The rest were wearing flowy cover-ups.

If anyone seemed like a smoker, it was DL fave Eileen Davidson!

So Kyle has admitted Morgan was her girlfriend? She dumped Mauricio and then Morgan dumped her. Touché bitch.

How dare you!

[quote] So Kyle has admitted Morgan was her girlfriend? She dumped Mauricio and then Morgan dumped her. Touché bitch.

She said that they’re not currently dating and not currently hanging out because the media made a big deal of it. However, she carefully didn’t admit whether nor not they dated last year. Very manipulative, wouldn’t you say.

KYLE YOU ATE HER PUSSY EVERYONE KNOWS IT! JESUS CHRIST!

She dumbed her husband for this girl?

[quote]we’ll that’s a rumor I haven’t ever heard

R74 that rumor was floating around way back when we first glimpses of trouble in paradise with the whole Lisa getting Brandi to bring the article in the car. The rumor on the street was he liked Trans hookers.

R88 the streets were talking!

So apparently Mo was actually a big ole Mo!

r89 trans women are women. If Mo liked to fuck them it does not make him gay. I loved that Kyle said she never questioned her sexuality until everyone else did. Umm yeah.

What did Kyle said about her sexuality?

Nothing coherent R91

[quote] The biggest irony about Sutton is that she has absolutely no fashion taste, yet owns a clothing store.

She's such a fucking liar!

R93 Speaking of no fashion taste, what the hell was that monstrosity with the giant bedazzled cross on the front that Sutton was wearing during her confessional?

R94, it was horrible.

R94 Almost as bad as Erika's silver outfit that looked like it had wings, as if she was going to jump out of a plane and freefly for a while.

R92 But what exactly?

R97 Essentially, she dodges. She doesn't acknowledge a relationship, but she doesn't deny it, either.

She says things like, "All this gossip has been very hard on my family."

Anyone notice how Dorit has pretty much lost whatever the fuck that accent of hers was?

R99 wouldn’t you if you were losing your goddamn house?!

Isn't Dorit Israeli? This would be interesting.

So it seems only Erika understands what surrealism is. Everybody else's outfits were definitely NOT surrealistic.

Boze's outfit was great, but that was Met Gala, not surreal. Even Sutton with her antlers was totally off the mark. Not surprised about Sutton, though, since she has no style or taste.

I was surprised Sutton didn’t understand surrealism. You’d think Merce Cunningham or the gay that helped set up the party would have told her about Dali or something.

R103 I love how Sutton is always trying to pass herself off as some haughty intellectual, when in reality, she's just a dumb yokel from the Carolinas who married well.

Even Kyle knew that Sutton was pronouncing “Dalí” incorrectly.

Sutton has no taste, no education (it seems), and no clue.

Sutton married very well which is interesting because she has the body shape of a deviled egg.

"Surreal" became a slang word in use during the Y2K era. Before that, people would say "unreal."

These dumb women probably didn't even know that surrealism was an art movement. They didn't even know to Google it.

It’s too bad the party wasn’t last season so Crystal could have condescendingly explained surrealism to everyone.

Have Crystal's husband and brother made it official yet?

Watching crystals brothers pretend meltdown over his ex fiancé was hilarious

R110, Very hilarious in the sense that the bitch is gay.

r91 She said that she NEVER questioned her sexuality until she saw all the online posts about her and Morgan and THAT made her question her sexuality.....so basically Nothing.

R112 That makes no sense. So she wasn't questioning her sexuality before that? Like when she was having sex with this woman? Morgan's ex gf said Morgan left her for Kyle

I'm glad Dorit is not holding back and turning against Kyle. Kyle really did try to manipulate her with those texts at the end of last season. And for Kyle to act like the joke Dorit made at Bravocon was offensive is just ridiculous.

The best part of the first episode was watching Dorit tearing down the highway with a fag dangling from her lips.

And no, I don't mean Pee Kay.

PK's hair transplant was so distracting Mo could not stop staring at it. I think he wanted to fuck it.

It was weird seeing Morgan with some old suburban lady. It looked like she worked for Kyle

Dorit is hanging with Rinna and Diana with Erika.

Kyle has been trying to hook up with Kevin Costner

[quote] Kyle has been trying to hook up with Kevin Costner

She thought he was "neat".

I actually thought Erika looked like she had gained some of the ozempic weight back. Her face didn’t look as gaunt as last season. Or maybe she had fillers injected to make her face fuller.

R121 I think she had fillers. Her body's still Ozempicized, but her face looks less wrinkly.

r32 Rinna has some acting credits this year. She works.

r51 Honestly people know when to be nice to staff/retail people but are nasty to people in their real life.

r113 A lot of bisexual women convince themselves all straight women have sex with women. So they think they are just being "naughty" or whatever. It is weird, but I think that is why she is confused. I can't tell you how many times I have had to tell bisexual women straight women don't fantasize about women.

I thought Kevin Costner was with Jewel now?

Kyle doesn’t want to fuck Kevin Costner

R123 I'm sure an Oscar awaits her for her stunning turn in "Mommie Meanest."

R128 hey if Eileen can win Emmys, maybe Rinna can win something.

Probably not the Oscar…but possibly a Gracie award

Rinna would love to get a Daytime Emmy. She would aggressively campaign for it.

r130 by campaign you mean fuck every voter...

Avi appears to have stolen Sutton’s Ozempic.

R132. At least he didn't steal her Goddamn house!

What was the floor covering at Sutton's party? It looked like cheap dark gray carpet. The setting was tacky, as were most of the costumes. As someone said above, Erika was about the only one who got it right. Not a real party, just a setting for bitch drama.

Boz is too sane right now.

Boz is the new Eileen Davidson. Too classy to go low but will make us laugh with her observations.

Does Bravo foot the bill for the cost of all these stupid parties these bitches throw?

R137. I don't think they have to. With the exception of Erika, these women are legit wealthy.

R138 But you know it wasn't Sutton's idea to have a "surrealism" party. She probably can't even spell the word.

I'm picturing the Bravo producers saying, "To kick off the season, let's do a theme party. Hey, surrealism! People will show up in all sorts of wacky outfits! It'll be great TV! Tell Sutton we wanna do it in her backyard and that we'll pay for everything."

Years ago there was a Bravo insider on here who said the women get a budget to host am event of their own each season, from what I ewcall.

As for Eileen Davidson-Kyle was asked this week on Watch What Happens Live which ex cast member she wanted back on the show, and she said Eileen. I notice whenever Andy or the Housewives bring up a former cast member, they eventually return to the show-that happened with Sheree, Tamra and Alexis.

I would love for Eileen to come back. Erika needs an ally and with Rinna gone, Eileen would fit well!

Doesn’t Kyle usually say Teddi is her first choice to come back?

If anyone needs to come back it is Brandi & Kim.

Brandi burned the Bravo bridge. Next stop: House of Villains.

Homewrecker Teddi’s husband originally suspected that she was dyking it up with Kyle, not fucking the horse trainer.

A staged burglary saved Dorit from being fired, and now she’s gotten another season from this “separation” and “feud” with Kyle. What’s next, a fake assassination attempt??

Let her go and bring back Eileen!

Kyle is a dyke

R147 She was with a man for decades

Watch Dorit at Sutton’s party and you will see that her nose makeup had rubbed off.

I guess it was snowing that night?

[quote] A staged burglary saved Dorit from being fired, and now she’s gotten another season from this “separation” and “feud” with Kyle. What’s next, a fake assassination attempt??

Maybe that’s why PK said her PTSD was getting obnoxious. Because it wasn’t PTSD but guilt.

It was weird that the burglars took bags Dorit was sick off and not her vintage designer clothing, not her priceless jewellery, not PK’s watch collection.

r147 Runs in the Family

And carefully left her phone at the front door gate R150

R149 is why I come back to Datalounge. It’s the kind of joke that only bitchy gay guys would get and understand…and I love that there is a space of this type of cuntery.

ESPECIALLY since I lost my god damn house!

I had read the reason why Boz went to so many major companies is because she was better at promoting herself rather than adding value to them.

I’m calling her now as the new non-evil, non-lizard Diana: rich, powerful, connected, ruthless.

Did anybody else think pot, meet kettle when Kathy said Mauricio had aged so much? Here you are looking like a close relative of the plastic surgery Cat Lady and you're trying to critique another person's looks. GTFOH.

Mauricio is fugly but his body looked good in those gym pics.

Mauricio got a little pudgy a few seasons back, but with the opportunity to freely chase new pussy, he's gone into full midlife-crisis mode by working out to up his fuckability. His body did look good, though.

Kathy reminds me of Caitlyn. They both seem like cunts too

It's hard to watch scatterbrained Kathy again after we were served a big serving of cunt Kathy a few seasons back.

If Erika’s life, which we never suspected, was built on a whole bunch of nothing, can you imagine how much Dorit’s life is built on? She owes us that big reveal after all of this time. It’s probably the reason why PK and here will never really separate - fear of the truth being revealed.

I’m sorry but a lama and a felt-wrapped tennis court do not a Surrealist party make. It even started in broad daylight. It was the party equivalent of one of Sutton’s outfits.

You gotta love/hate the way Dorit invents something new each season to keep her storyline from being as dull as dishwater. Did she get through one line of dialogue without saying PK and alcoholic in the same sentence? And poor PK. If you’re feeling emasculated dear, it may not be your drag queen wife. It may be that you’re hanging out with Boy George all the time.

So in the last episode, we learned Bozo is a former corporate executive who failed upward, ultimately got canned, wrote a motivational-type book, and is promoting herself as some kind of success story because she's now a pariah in the business world and can't get hired anywhere else.

I've worked with these people who are better at self promotion than the actual work. She'll be perfect on the Housewives.

Dorit brought up a good point that Kyle’s reason for being mad at her seems to constantly change. I have a feeling the real issue is that they were friends as part of a group (the faux force five) and as parts of two couples but that one on one they just don’t have much in common.

That was my takeaway from Boz as well. It seemed like she was presenting as a “success” when she was really a failure who made a lot of money from golden parachutes

Jeeezus F-ing Christ, Boz's house was hideous! From the horrendous wallpaper to the gawdy furniture to the tacky accessories, it was a nightmare of epic proportions.

And what the hell is up with those mounds of black yarn cascading from her head?

Boz is obviously a woman who doesn't understand the concept of "less is more."

R163 Boz reminds me of the worst boss I ever had.

He was hired as the Chief Risk Officer of our company, and from the start, he was belligerent, volatile, demeaning to others, and above all, incompetent. He was universally loathed and was gone from the company within less than two years.

I was mystified how someone like him could have ever been hired into such a high level position, so I looked him up on LinkedIn and discovered that he had had five jobs in the last 10 years at different companies. He never lasted more than two years at any place he went, and I'm sure he got generous separation packages at every company he squatted at.

Last I heard, he was going around the country holding seminars on how to be a success at business, much like Boz.

I give massive side eye to people with No Shoes policies who are not from Asia or the Middle East.

Especially when they present me with used slippers to wear.

R168 she sounds like Stedman 😭

R170. Who?

[quote] Jeeezus F-ing Christ, Boz's house was hideous! From the horrendous wallpaper to the gawdy furniture to the tacky accessories, it was a nightmare of epic proportions.

I thought the exact same thing. Just hideous!

Boz’s wig is exhausting to look at. I feel fatigued watching her. I wish they did a better job vetting the black women on the show. Garcelle has made a good fit even though her storylines are lacking. BUT you need characters like that. I just don’t understand why they have to shoehorn these two other black professionals in. And they’ve both been massive, big back girls. Just give me another star, a Holly Robinson Peete or an Aisha Taylor. Someone who’s been in the entertainment industry and has a stylist.

Holly Robinson Peete would be an excellent addition to RHOBH. I agree r173. Watching that shit on top of Boz’ head is exhausting.

Anyone's who has a job giving success seminars is a fraud. Can you imagine an actual successful person doing such nonsense?

R175 Yes, and looking at those poor fools in the audience who probably paid a significant amount of money to sit and listen to Bozo say things like, "Know your worth" and "Don't be afraid to embrace your full potential," knowing that when they leave and go home, nothing will change in their lives, but Bozo will get richer and furnish her house with more tacky shit.

The funny thing is genuinely sort is probably much more interesting than her phony self. Now that she’s separating from PK she could also tell some faking stories about him I bet

Dorit I mean auto correct doesn’t like her name

Yes, start with the fake break in story. Do you think PK put her up to it or, even worse, staged it without her knowing so he could make an insurance claim?

I don’t think Dorit knew about the break in. She’s like Erika-if the credit card is still working she doesn’t have to think about it.

Kyle is going to get fucked over by Mauricio if she doesn’t get an attorney, stat.

Dorit would never have put her children in danger. She may be a dingbat but she's not heartless.

I think she originally didn't know about it and did have ptsd BUT now suspects PK of being involved and that's why she's become so obnoxious to him.

Is Farrah, Kyle's oldest child and Mauricio's suspected paramour, still on the show?

I just found out Farrah broke off her engagement last year. Well, that makes sense now that Mauricio is free.

[quote]So in the last episode, we learned Bozo is a former corporate executive who failed upward, ultimately got canned

She's getting the typical first season edit: successful woman with the perfect life. It all seems too good to be true, because it is.

It's the same set-up as Yolanda Foster and Diana Jenkins, who appeared too fabulous and wealthy to be on Housewives. Until the veil dropped, and we learned that all was not as it appeared. Bozo needs the money to continue her lifestyle, since she can't get hired in the corporate world anymore. She lives in Hancock Park instead of the more exclusive neighborhoods, which is a sign that she doesn't have the kind of money that Sutton has.

I knew Farrah’s fiancé, I worked for his mother when he was 12. He was a little asshole.I had to have her paged at an airport once, so she could return to LA, the Beverly Hills PD arrested him for vandalizing property.

What veil dropped on Diana? She’s fucking loaded. But she’s also a hateful bitch—as seen through all of her single season.

Wasn’t Diana revealed as a hateful cunt that got bots to attack Garcelle and her children online? She definitely seemed racist, and her boyfriend seemed gay. She was a terrible fit.

It never was publicly revealed, r138–that said, Bravo did investigate and Garcelle claimed to have investigators looking into it, and she was canned-so presumably, it was found that she was involved (although it does sound like something Rinna would do, too).

Speaking of Diana and Rinna-they just spent a day hanging out with Erika and Dorit, which was then posted all over Instagram.

I love the way Bozo dresses

Boz’s gown at Sutton’s party wasn’t surreal, but it was spectacular.

Farrah is quite a story. She is the product of Kyle and her mother's gold-digging. Kyle got pregnant "on purpose" by an Indonesian man and Kyle's mother somehow got the idea was mega-rich. Turned out he wasn't and Kyle was forced to have the baby. Farrah has stated in a few interviews that her father does not speak English, Pretty sure Kyle does not speak Indonesian, yet somehow she got pregnant and engaged to him.

R166, have you seen Real Housewives of Dubai? She reminds me of Sara. She is the same kind of grifter.

[r55] Camille did well in the divorce to Kelsey but actually half that amount; $50 million and that “Tuscan style” monstrosity in Malibu and the place in Hawaii.

R194 I ended up better than the morally corrupt Faye Resnick!

R192, that's when I knew the things said about Big Kathy were true. We were introduced to Kyle's ex-husband in the earlier seasons and the fact that he couldn't speak English was brought up.

… she did have a face transplant!

R197 what is sad is she looked so much better before. As did Kyle. I was rewatching season 7 with Queen Eileen Davidson, and Kyle looked like a normal person.

Kyle really looked great, especially those first couple of seasons on the show, I don't know why she got all that plastic surgery, it makes her look harder and older. And her neck is definitely that of someone in their mid 50s. I was just watching Season 2 yesterday, the episode where her MAGA mother-in-law Estella gets a facelift. Kyle says "I wish we would all fight fair and put down the botox, fillers, etc...". And this is after she got her first nose job (prior to joining the show). Kyle has always been a hypocrite.

R199 And remember two seasons ago when Kyle got another nose job, claiming it had been broken while she was filming a scene for "Halloween Kills?"

Sure, Kyle.

Kyle’s nose jobs were great. I’m not sure about her facelifts but her nose jobs were great.

R198 Dorit originally looked like a sweet Jewish girl from Connecticut.

R200, she lies about everything. Yet is always telling others to be open and honest. I think Lisa Vanderpump's time on the show came to an appropriate end when she left (she was all played out by then), but I would love for her to come back on the show and make Kyle nervous.

“GOODBYE, KYLE!!”

I think Kyle’s nose jobs have been good. She needs to leave her lips alone. Kim’s nose job was also good. And I’m shocked it took her so long to get one. Now if someone could talk to Paris…

r196 you should read House of Hilton, which explores Big Kathy and her exploits. She ran through men, favoured the child who made the most money at the time and taught her daughters to marry rich. Just reading about Big Kathy and Kathy's behaviour when she got engaged to Rick Hilton is worth the price of the book

R205, I haven't read it but that's exactly what I was referring to in my post. I've read a lot about the book and Kyle's first marriage is Exhibit A on that one. Seriously, she married a man who couldn't even speak English, don't tell me she married him for his charm.

I think it says a lot that Farrah hasn't learned his language nor him some English. weird people.

Do they speak Spanish to each other?

Big Kathy at BEST was a sociopath. At worst- read the book. Its ALLEGED.

Kathy was a fucking monster.

Big Kathy reminds me of Mama Rose in Gypsy.

I guess that makes Kim Gypsy?

Big Kathy put screws in a hamburger patty she made for her stepdaughter. Crazy bitch.

All of her husbands were picked clean when she was done with them.

She also taught Paris how to suck dick.

House of Hilton is a fabulous book.

Was the defining problem for all of the Housewives after season 4 just Lisa Rinna?

She pushed Kim Richards off the show

She pushed Yolanda Foster off the show

She pushed Vanderpump off the show

She pushed Denise Richards off the show

She pushed Kathy Hilton off the show after season 12.

Yes r212. it became worse when Dorit, Kyle, Teddi and Erika banded together with her and called themselves the “Fox Force Five.” 🙄

Notice how every one of these women were either fan favorites, filthy rich, or both.

They would have run Sutton off if she hadn’t hitched herself to Garcelle, who drives them nuts because they are scared to go after her.

Rinna tried. “Harry is so offended that you didn’t thank him a second time for his sauce!”

TLDR version of Big Kathy. She favoured Kathy first - then Kim, then back to Kathy when she got engaged to Rick Hilton. Kim then got engaged to a billionaire and she was back to Kim. Kyle was never in the mix even when she was on TV and in the movie. She was worried when Kyle did not get a rich man like Kathy and Kim, she thought the Indonesian man was rich but oopsy.

R215. kyle has always come off as someone who was the least popular girl among the popular girls in high school.

R216 And has spent her entire adult life making every other “friend” pay for it.

It’s where “vile Kyle” came from

R217, you can see it in her relationship with Lisa Vanderpump. It was Kyle who actually started shit talking about Lisa first. According to Dana Wilkey and Taylor, Kyle would talk about Lisa a lot behind her back and try to instigate others to go after her. She would call her fake and other things. But, at the same time, she desperately craved her approval.

R219 What the fuck does Dana Pam know about me, anyway?

Mauricio and PK have clearly moved on. Dorit, hon, time to tell the kiddies.

R221 That whole not telling the kids thing is so stupid and misguided. It's only going to make the kids resentful of their parents when they finally do find out the truth, which will likely be from someone outside the family.

At least Dorit isn’t showing her kids photos of her with a pillow under her shirt and hoping her kids don’t find out she really used a surrogate.

R223 You're so pernicious.

Any time a post is signed by Camille I always chuckle.

They're milking three episodes out of Kyle and Dorit's big showdown at Kathy's ridiculous weekend. Why do we watch?

That place in Oceanside was kind of sad. Was that the best Kathy could do?

I'd rather have Rinna rather than Kathy back on the show.

I believe that resort is a Hyatt brand which is weird, couldn't she find a Hilton somewhere?

Same Kathy is a cunt too at least Rinna isn’t as phoney as her. And rinna would act a fool

Jennifer Tilly is worth an estimated $40 million? I never would have guessed. She's a great addition to the show.

She’s got that Simpsons money and at this point, I think she just does things she thinks will be fun, like RH, Celebrity Poker, Chucky..I have always liked her.

Simpsons money?

Never mind, I googled.

R151 Paris Hilton is gay? She had more dicks than have of the Dataloungers.

I don't watch every episode, but from what I've seen Dorit has gone even more insane and annoying. I know she's always been bad, but she's definitely a lot worse now.

R235. So has her hubby.

R232 Jennifer has Family Guy money, and she's actually made a fortune as a poker player. She was the first female celebrity to win the World Series of Poker bracelet.

R236, Dorit is in the right in her fight with Kyle. Kyle is completely full of shit, trying to make Dorit look like a bad friend when Kyle used her and discarded when it was convenient. Kyle attempting to do damage control with that text at the end of last season was pathetic, Dorit was so right to call her out on that.

Mauricio's shirtless gym pic didn't piss me off.

R237 That would make him gay, not her

has garbelle got her sauce has garbelle gots da saws!!

It is great to see Kyle get her just desserts after all the shit she's pulled.

I just rewatched the Season 2 reunion episodes. Kyle is so full of shit. During the season, she says to Taylor "maybe Lisa preys on the weak"--a messed up thing to say about someone who you call a friend--and then tries to pass it off as she wasn't talking about Lisa. And, of course, this is proceeded by Kyle saying "just be honest!". Seriously, at the reunion, she was telling Lisa that she wasn't actually referring to her when she said that. Which makes no sense because why else would she name Lisa in the first place?

I hope the toothless and homeless won’t be at risk now that Dorit and PK are divorcing.

The children are right to laugh at PK and Dorit. If I had them as parents, I would be embarrassed also

I am really enjoying seeing Dorit beat up on Kyle. She knows Kyle’s number.

Kathy was the reason Kyle married Mauricio. Kyle was engaged to Michael Tuck, a local LA news anchor was was much older than her at the time. Kathy invited Kyle to go on vacation with her and Rick and the new hot shot real estate agent, Mauricio in Mexico. After that vacation Kyle called off the engagement and was engaged to Mo. Never mind he needed a green card to stay in the US.

Big Kathy was such a cunt. No wonder these bitches are fucked up. From House of Hilton:

“ Big Kathy also often pitted her daughters against one another. When Kyle eventually began generating more work than Kim and scored a key role at the age of eleven in the 1980 Disney family horror film Watcher in the Woods (starring a bored-to-death Bette Davis), big Kathy heaped praise on Kyle.

“She’d say about Kyle in front of Kim, ‘Well, this is my baby. This is my little sweetheart. Kyle’s working and what are you doing?’” recounts Sylvia Richards. “Big Kathy did this constantly to those kids. I don’t know what she thought—whether she was going to get more production out of them by doing that, or what. But I do know it was devastating to them. Looking back, I don’t know how anybody survived in that family.”

Kim would have been 15 and Kyle would have been 10 at the time.

r249, i'm actually Kyle isn't as messed up as Kathy or Kim. But she is also more boring and milquetoast. So I guess that's....sort of winning?

Big Kathy and the cheeseburger incident, from House of Hilton:

“One incident especially stands out. The Richardses had an Irish maid who was also the children’s loving nanny. She and Diane got along well, and on one occasion she telephoned Diane to say she knew a nice young man with whom Diane might want to go out.

“She was going to set me up on this date with this friend of hers,” says Diane, “and it inflamed Kathleen that Marie, who was this really nice person, was calling me. Kathleen said, ‘You don’t associate with the hired help!’ And she grabbed hold of my hair and started to pull me across the room, and my father just had to pull her off of me.”

The violent denouement came in the kitchen of the Richardses’ home when Kathleen served up a very special treat to her then-twentysomething stepdaughter—a snack consisting of a bun, chopped beef, American cheese, and one other ingredient that only Stephen King could have imagined as part of the recipe.

“Big Kathy just got angry at me one day, so she put a little screw in the cheeseburger she made for me,” says Diane. “She always told me I had pretty teeth and I guess “she wanted me to break them. I bit down on it. Fortunately, I didn’t hurt my teeth.”

The Richards sisters, taking care of their dying father. From House of Hilton:

“Sylvia Richards had accepted an invitation—one she would come to regret—to stay at Kim Richards’s home in suburban Calabasas. “Being at Kim’s was just beyond belief,” she asserts. “Her father is dying and he’s hurting and she would get drunk and jump on the bed, bring the kids in, and could care less. Because she was a little girl TV and movie star, she’d been doted on all her life and was very selfish. She thought whatever Kim wanted, that’s what should happen.”

Richards couldn’t take it anymore and told his wife he wanted to return to her daughter’s home in Las Vegas where he could have some peace and quiet as death neared, but Kim and Kyle demanded that he stay in California.

“This way,” maintains Sylvia Richards, “if they wanted to see him they didn’t have to travel very far. They were that selfish. One day we were in the room with Kenneth and he was telling Kim we were going to go home, and she flew at me, came at me with hands and fists, and physically attacked me. She was screaming that I was trying to take her father away. She called the “the security patrol and tried to get me removed from her house. She told me that Rick and Kathy were going to do things to me. I said, ‘Let ’em come on!’ It was a terrible mess. Ken wanted to go home and I was going to take him one way or another.” Kim finally consented and arranged for a plane to fly the Richardses to Las Vegas. The next morning, Ken Richards suffered a heart attack and was rehospitalized for a week. Shortly after he arrived back home, extremely weak, Kim showed up.

“It was midnight and she was drunk on her rear end and blubbering,” maintains Sylvia Richards. “She had two strangers bring her to our house in a pickup truck, and she didn’t know who those guys were. I refused to let her come in and wake up her father. Later, she told me she had gone to the Las Vegas Hilton and gambled all night.”

…. “Kenneth Richards died. The date was April 28, 1998. His daughters, Kim and Kyle, didn’t show up until after he was gone.

Meanwhile, someone at the hospice had notified the Hiltons in New York. While the widow was still in the room with her husband’s body—he would be cremated—Rick and Kathy telephoned.

“Rick is on the phone and Kathy is in hysterics in the background,” says Sylvia Richards, who has never forgotten the moment. “Rick says, ‘Kathy needs to talk to her dad.’ I said, ‘Rick, he’s gone.’ But he insisted. ‘She’s got to talk to him.’ Kathy got on the phone. ‘Oh, Dad, I love you so much and I miss you. You’ve done so much for me….’ I didn’t say anything. I just let her ramble. And I was thinking maybe somebody else was there besides Rick. I thought Kathy was putting on an act because she never gave a damn. She never showed him any love. If she loved him, she would have been there. None of them lifted a finger to help.”

Jennifer Tilly has Simpsons money, not Family Guy. She said it herself on the show this week.

I don’t really understand the fight between Kyle and Dorit. Kyle’s examples of Dorit being a bad friend are stupid and Dorit has no examples. The only thing Dorit has pointed to is Kyle’s text which she says was manipulative. But manipulative to what end? Presumably to silence Dorit. Except now Dorit is talking but she’s not fucking saying anything. What has Kyle done exactly? We still don’t know.

Teddi moved in with Kyle since they are both separated. They clearly wanted this from the beginning.

I think they show “own it” and tell the truth about their “friendship”

How long before Teddi and Kyle fuck, and Kyle recoils and runs to Instagram to announce that “I DON’T LIKE GIRLS!!”

I didn’t raise no fucking dyke Kyle, you’re strictly dickly unless you find some butch with money.

R254, that text was completely manipulative. Kyle basically blew her off all last season. And then, prior to the reunion, she's basically sending her a text to get her to shut up. She assumed Dorit would naively buy her BS "apology". But Dorit could see the writing on the wall. And then Kyle twisted that whole Bravocon joke Dorit made to be such an insult when she was sitting right next to Dorit and laughing. Kyle is just a user.

[quote] I don’t really understand the fight between Kyle and Dorit. Kyle’s examples of Dorit being a bad friend are stupid and Dorit has no examples. The only thing Dorit has pointed to is Kyle’s text which she says was manipulative. But manipulative to what end? Presumably to silence Dorit. Except now Dorit is talking but she’s not fucking saying anything. What has Kyle done exactly? We still don’t know.

Bear in mind, Dorit (and Erika) are women with not that many friends and of the cast they are the least talented at networking. The rest as actresses/models/restauranteurs/business operators network and make friends and acquaintances as a matter of professional necessity. Dorit and Erika only really did this via their husbands. Remember when Dorit was amazed that Crystal could have 14 ex-friends let alone friends?

Kyle is bubbly and thrives off attention, so she collects lots of female friends; relationship with Dorit was one of 2 dozen. For Dorit who is more introverted (and possibly on the spectrum, she misses obvious social clues obnoxiously and constantly) they were besties. Their conversations and interactions meant a lot more to Dorit; Kyle probably talks like that to the gardener.

All that aside - once Kyle was done with Mauricio, she was done with Dorit, possibly because she considered her part and parcel with PK who became May’s friend. And possibly because she didn’t ever like Dorit that much, because she immediately went on to publicly treat her like shit. Because going on Amazon Live and telling the world they weren’t that close is the behaviour of a bitch. Once Dorit did one thing that wasn’t kissing Kyle’s ass - trying to build a bridge between her and Kathy - she turned on her.

R259 is Kim Richards

R259, I remember that Lisa said that Kyle's attitude towards her changed when Mauricio sold Adreinne's home. I thought maybe that was BS at the time but what you are saying aligns with what she said. Also, there have been people on DL that claim they have met Kyle and it's always the same story. She is nice. TOO nice. Nice to the point where it seems like she wants to crawl into your asshole and stay there. She is very, very desperate for attention.

I think R259 is somewhat right. We've seen or heard about several of Kyle's close friends over the years (Faye, Lorene) and she mentioned last season that she texted with Teddi and Morgan every day. That's clearly not the kind of friendship she had with Dorit, which is why she didn't consider Dorit to be that close of a friend. Dorit, on the other hand, is in a co-dependent relationship with PK and probably has very few friends at all. So to Dorit, her relationship with Kyle was what she considered close.

I miss Kim this season. My friend and I always looked forward to her “extreme moments of lucidity” where she would be dead-on calling things out. Example: when she told Kyle that the only things LVP cared about in life were 1. Money 2. Giggy and 3. Ken in that order (I don’t think she even mentioned Pandora).

Kim was also correct about everything she said at the Amsterdam Lunch from Hell. Although, I actually think that her infamous line “Let’s talk about the husband” was subtly directed at Kyle who, if you’ll recall, fled from the table, dramatically running by a fire to escape the lunch, leading with her hair.

R263, I think she said Pandora, dogs and Ken. She didn't even mention Lisa's son Max lol. At the season 3 reunion, she also said that Kyle and Lisa had a friendship that was way beyond anything the other women on the show had, I think that's true. They loved each other like sisters more than friends. Kyle clearly viewed Lisa in a similar way she viewed Kathy.

R256 Why would they fuck? Isn't Teddi straight?

You’re totally right, R264. I knew it was three things but couldn’t remember exactly what they were besides the dogs and Ken.

r259 Great analysis. Also, Kyle's whole life is in California. Her sisters, her daughters and friends. Whereas Dorit was (is?) very much a grifter fish out of water in Beverly Hills. Dorit "needs" Kyle way more than Kyle "needs" Dorit. Dorit very much saw Kyle as her entry into this new world. She also knew Kyle has producer-level power over the show.

R267, Kyle is always telling us about how California she is. Isn't every other tagline of hers "in MY town bla bla bla"?

Dorit came on as friend of Lisa. Lisa had to stand up for her as most of the cast could not stand her. Since Kyle and Lisa were close, Dorit naturally wormed her way in there. The cracks in Lisa and Kyle's friendship were there though. You can see the shock on Lisa's face when Kyle did not know who Nanny Kay was (Lisa's grandmother) when even Erika knew who Nanny Kay was. Remember they made a whole season about PK seeing Erika's pussy? With PK and Dorit calling Erila "inherently cold."

Well Kyle, I just took a huge fucking dump in front of Hermes on Rodeo in YOUR town!

[quote] Kyle clearly viewed Lisa in a similar way she viewed Kathy.

Kyle looks up to strong alpha women (Kathy, LVP, Faye, Bethenny, she even defended Diana’s pencil) and mothers slightly vulnerable, younger ones who worship her (Teddi, Morgan).

Dorit and Erika are too solitary, too odd, and not social enough to fit these categories because Kyle likes extroverts and powerful women (they also don’t look up to Kyle and consider her an uncool ugly duckling rather than a beloved sister). She also takes any sort of disagreement as disloyalty, hence the constant fighting with Kim and Kathy.

People who challenge her in any way or aren’t taken by her charms, are enemies (Crystal), frenemies (Sutton) or acquaintances who are too rich and too black to fight with (Adrienne, Garcelle).

[quote] Remember they made a whole season about PK seeing Erika's pussy? With PK and Dorit calling Erila "inherently cold."

He was right about her being inherently cold.

But remember when Erika said that PK approached her a a girlfriend at the World Cup Finals in Berlin (this would have been back in 2006) and asked if they were porn stars?

What a dude.

R271, it's funny you say all that. I remember a while ago, I saw a news segment on youtube where the two anchors were talking about who had the most wealth on Beverly Hills. Kyle came out on top (thanks to The Agency) and one of the news anchor says something like "if she's so rich, why is she always following Lisa around like a little dog?"

[quote] "if she's so rich, why is she always following Lisa around like a little dog?"

Because Kyle doesn’t feel rich. Kyle feels like Kim Richards’ less talented, less cute, chubby little brunette sister a teen marriage to an Indonesian non-prince.

That's what their mother always said, R274

R269 Oh, shut up and get me a Belvedere soda with three squeezed lemons, served in a short glass, carcass out.

There always has to be a fat housewife and try as she might, Kyle could never successfully transition away from that.

Also…trading in carbs for Teddi’s vagina won’t help matters!

Is she still fucking her horse guy?

[quote]Mauricio and PK have clearly moved on.

They have their pick of countless hot, young women in LA. Why would they want to stay with a nagging, middle-aged woman, who they no longer find sexually desirable and only wants to spend money.

I want to order a drink one day and specify “carcass out” to see the bartender’s reaction.

Did Dorit and Mauricio have an affair?

R279 I told you you would never fulfill him, bitch.

All you Kyle haters really reach for examples of her misdeeds. She's fine.

I loved Dorit walking into the house, seeing a black woman, and saying, "My girl!"

After seeing the clip of that guy accusing Kyle of trying to “make Teddi happen,” it makes more sense that she’s now saying Eileen is the cast member she’d like back. Saying Teddi would just be feeding the trolls.

If Mauricio and Dorit were fucking, Kyle would have broadcast it everywhere. She would do it in the hopes that it would be Scandoval 2.0 and she could get Bic commercials and a gig singing at the Macy’s Thanksgiving Day Parade, like Ariana Madix.

She would make sure we all knew she was WRONGED.

Mauricio likes Dorit as the cute Jewish lady in the cast he can flirt with.

But he would not put up with her needy beta shit.

He wants younger women.

It's weird how we haven't seen a glimpse of Kim Richards, even though both of her sisters are on this season.

R287 A 5150 hold tends to limit one's availability to participate in a TV show.

Try as I might, I cannot dislike Kyle. I like her. There I said it. I don't find her manipulative or annoying. I do like that out of the all the franchises she is really the OG because she has never been put on pause and she has been there from the beginning.

R273, I don't think the Agency was a thing from the beginning of Kyle and Lisa's relationship. Just like with Kathy, I think Kyle began to grow more of a backbone with Lisa once she started to make more money. I think she put up with a lot of Lisa's shit because of her possible use to Mauricio and his growing business. Lisa was very wealthy. But once Kyle became her equal and eventually surpassed her, that friendship fell apart very quickly because she was of no real use to her. Very Beverly Hills.

R288, I thought you were joking but, nope, that really did happen in September. That's so sad, she seemed like she was in a much better place last year.

R289, of all the OG women on the different franchises, Kyle is by far the weakest and it's not even close. Compare her to the likes of Nene, Teresa, Vikki, etc. and she looks really, really lame.

R291 The weakest and the most insecure. It burns off of her. I almost feel bad for her but she’s really loathsome.

I like laughing at Teddi but that’s it

R292, exactly, you can SMELL it off her. I remember seeing clips years ago of Kyle being interviewed about Paris Hilton. Kyle, of course, tried to bank off of Paris's new found fame in the 00s and did anything she could to get interviewed as much as possible about her. She was always referred to as "Paris's Aunt" in interviews. Nobdoy gave a shit about her name lol.

R291, I was not saying she was the strongest. I am saying that out of ANY of the Housewives Franchises, she is the only original Housewife left and she has never been put on pause. She has been featured in every single season - after Nene was long fired, long after Teressa was in jail and released, out of all of them. That in and of itself is a lesson in longevity. Whatever her crazy, kooky chemistry is, it is obviously working for her when it comes to Housewives. And I have never minded her. She isn't that exciting, but to be honest I think there would be a huge hole in in the show if she was no longer there. She is that franchise.

Kyle, to me, is the same Housewives archetype as Heather Gay and Jill Zarin - naturally beta and genuinely invested in the politics of female relationships; obsessed with reinforcing her self-conception that she is her franchise’s version of the nice/relatable girl next door; obviously insecure about her looks

r279 Mo might have his pick.PK? what hot young woman is dying to fuck a penniless fat old man clinging to his hairline and his 14 minutes of fame ticking away?

She's still scissoring that tattooed country chick. She hangs around her family.

Sounds like PK is in some sad furnished apartment. Jennifer Tilly spoke for us all, I feel, when she pointed out how expensive the Bel Air Hotel is, basically hinting that it is unlikely that PK was actually living there.

PK has a lot more hair this season.

R300 you can thank us!

Kyle actually had some acting experience, which helped her during filming. She's also non-confrontational, so she "gets along" with the bosses. Kathy was always the one that Bravo wanted for RHoBH. They finally got Kathy after 10 years or so.

My issue with Kyle bitching about Dorit saying Kathy was her favorite Richards sister is Kyle not apologizing for slapping the shot out of Doritos hand and that was her making light of the situation. Well now my favorite sister is Kathy because this bish spilled a shot all over my $10k outfit

^ R303, don't be too concerned about it. Kyle doesn't really like Dorit, she is just coming up with excuses caught on camera to not like her. I mean they are work colleagues and they went on couple's dates.

Kyle also got mad at Dorit for "interjecting" herself at one of the reunions between her and Kathy. And she still has not let it go.

This "feud" between Kyle and Dorit is pretty lame and boring.

Can we talk instead about how Bozo is the female version of Michael Clarke Duncan and how she looks like an absolute gargantuan when she stands next to midget Kyle?

I think Bozo is going to give Sutton a run for her money this season when it comes to horrific fashion taste and style.

What the fuck was that yellow monstrosity she wore to dinner? She looked like Tweety Bird after having survived Chernobyl.

At least this season is no longer about Sutton and her esophagus problems!

Oh, you think so, do you?

I am learning all the tricks of the trade of lifetime anorexics. I love when Sutton walked in and saw all the donuts piled up and the first thing she says is "Oh, someone ate the one that I wanted..." None of those women had touched the donuts yet.

R310 LOL! You're right! I just went back and watched that part. No one had eaten a donut yet.

R311 I'll eat the donuts! I'll eat the entire damn tower of 'em!

"Ladies, we have the best seat in the house for your dinner tonight! Enjoy being on display on the corner as cars roar by and pedestrians waddle past."

Why do the trips that Kathy “organizes “ always feature a 3 1/2 star chain hotel?

I've never thought of Oceanside as a luxury resort area.

I always assume Kathy is promoting something. Surprised no one was offered a shot of her tequila~

[quote]Why do the trips that Kathy “organizes “ always feature a 3 1/2 star chain hotel?

Could it be a case of Cheap Bitch?

Rich bitches can be cheap too.

R317 Kathy herself said she was delivering the ladies' suitcases personally so she didn't have to pay for shipping.

I've always found that the people with the most money are the ones most resistant to giving it up.

R307 The problem with Boz is that she's way too big physically to being wearing such bright, garish colors. They just accentuate how huge she is and make her look like a fire breathing dragon ready to stomp through the city.

She needs more muted colors and clean, simple lines.

The best part of the last episode was watching Sutton's assistant roll his eyes when she said she can't be seen twice in the same outfit.

He was probably thinking, "Bitch, you have no taste and your biggest worry is wearing the same ugly outfit twice?"

Had Sutton consumed food yet this season?

R322 I would if I had a functioning esophagus.

[quote] Kyle doesn't really like Dorit, she is just coming up with excuses caught on camera to not like her.

Dorit is a LOT.

Kathy Hilton is notoriously cheap. She has yard sales where they advertises on insta, charge an entry fee and then you can shop on their lawn and in their house, I saw one insta influencer who bought several of Paris's old outfits.

Special guest star cunty CAMILLE next week!

[QUOTE] Kathy Hilton is notoriously cheap. She has yard sales where they advertises on insta, charge an entry fee

Jenna Lyons charged an entry fee for her garage sale. She said that it’s actually pretty standard when celebs throw them.

R327 The last person I'd ever buy used shit from is Jenna Lyons, what with all her diseases and afflictions and skin conditions.

Yes, it would be awful to catch Jenna's non-communicable genetic disorder.

R328 probably doesn’t know how HIV is transmitted.

R329 I caught Morton’s Neuroma from Dorothy in 1985

Last night's episode was boring. But how exciting can things get in Oceanside?

Boz has GOT to get a decent wardrobe.

I can't with Boz's ugly star tattoo between her sagging tits.

Why Oceanside? Carlsbad/La Costa are so much nicer and just down the road.

R333 Why does she want to draw attention to that Triangle of Sadness?

Was Scaggs wearing a scrunchie headband the after show?

Oceanside. Meh.

WTF? Who lived here?

Can we all agree everything Dorit is doing is to get a storyline because they need the money.

r338 as opposed to every other season?

Tom Girardi’s victims must have been thrilled watching Erika take delivery of a new Porsche

I'm not entirely sure Boz isn't smuggling fentanyl in that hair of hers.

R341 I think she was doing coke in the bathroom.

R342 Pfft, who wasn't...although Elliot Mintz apparent lack in partaking was quite a surprise. Although he probably does his bumps in the privy by himself. He's not trying to give any of those idiots actual dirt.

Dorit and PK's home is supposedly in foreclosure and up for sale.

Dorit handling those wads of cash PK would give her to shop with was laugh out loud funny.

R344 Maybe Jennifer Tilly will Dorit live in the one of the many houses she doesn't occupy.

Pee Kay can move into Mauricio's bachelor pad.

R346 so you calling him Pee Kay is amazing

r340 it's a lease, a Taycan EV as far as I could tell so she can probably write it off taking delivery on the show as a business expense.

Can you imagine the absolute misery of having to pretend you live a certain lifestyle? I mean Erika is broke. Everyone one knows Erika is broke. Erika talks about how broke she is. I am sure Housewives is her biggest check of the year. What do you think she gets, 350K maybe? Yet she STILL has to lease a Porsche. For what? Because that is so Beverly Hills? Her bags are rentals at this point as well I am sure. She had a shit load, but they are all dated at this point. And she is carrying Fendi and Bottega. Not bad, but it's not Hermes that all the girls salivate over. The gag is Erika KNOWS good shit, unlike the other girls who just know when something is expensive. Can you imagine the torture of knowing good shit and not being able to afford it anymore?

Anyway, Erika IS Blue Jasmine. Pretty soon she'll have that one Hermes Belt, that one Chanel Jacket, that one Birkin (I hope she at least got to keep one). at 50+ years her trophy wife days are over.

It’s still a bad look r348. We all know she’s broke. Maybe lease something a little less outrageous, like a BMW 4 series convertible or something?

Or take a Land Rover, they give to the Housewives on Bravo to drive.

R349 How can you earn $350K per season and be broke?

By insisting on leasing Porsches and tons of other terrible decisions that lead to you living well beyond your means. Her salary goes into keeping up appearances. Notice we haven’t seen her severely paired down Glam Squad installing her ponytails once this season. It breaks my heart imagining those long bony fingers, that used to wear Panthère de Cartier rings, wrapped around a toilet brush in that hut of a home off the highway.

Dorit called the paps to film her walking out of the building that contains Mauricio’s apartment.

^ Sounds like she is taking a page out of the early Kardashians when Kim made sure she was filmed walking into the same hotel Britney Spears was hiding out in. She hid inside for a while and then left. Next day the papers said she and Britney had dinner together. That raised Kim’s celebrity quotient.

R351 I did it for several years!

R351 is easy. 350K a year in LA is middle class. Erika is actually smart doing it on TV. The glam, the lease, all of it can be written off as a business expense, reducing her income and tax liability. She is not that old and used up. I mean if Nene Leaks can maintain a lifestyle, Erika Jayne can too. I am sure she gets offers all the time for other bad reality shows like fox's special forces (Denise Richards will be on that). She was good on Y&R, they should bring her back. Despite what people think she still does have a decent catalogue of dance hits which should bring in some residuals. She is clear of any lawsuits going after her wages, so I would assume she is not flexing as hard on TV to appear demure and mindful. It's not like broke Jenna Lyons who "borrowed" a 300K Bently and said it was hers.

R356 I wanna hear more about Jenna Lyons.

So she really is broke?

R356 Yes, $350K won't get you the Vanderpump lifestyle in LA, but it's enough to live quite comfortably without going broke.

r357 it would appear she aint as rich as she puts off. The Bently on the show she claimed was her new car was just a loaner. She sold off a shit ton of her clothes.

[quote] Despite what people think she still does have a decent catalogue of dance hits which should bring in some residuals.

Unfortunately in this day and age, the way the music industry is, it would be pennies.

[quote] It's not like broke Jenna Lyons who "borrowed" a 300K Bently and said it was hers.

Didn’t Karen Huger do the same thing on an early season of Potomac? That woman is insane.

r360 Yeah she showed up dressed like speed racer in a Jaguar F-Type sports car.

Dorit told the LAPD that the thieves were “black men”.

So why were the guys who were caught white Jews?

That’s funny r362 I could have sworn it was some Puerto Rican guy

The pic at R362 is showing a seriously distorted face. She needs to stop before she turns herself into a Zolciak.

Dorit’s nose job turned her from suburbanite to attractive. She doesn’t need anything else done.

How was that guy the one who stole from Dorit? They say he used open houses to steal, but Dorit's was broken into during the night? At least that is what the camera footage showed. (what they aired on RHOBH, two hooded guys breaking in and you can hear Dorit telling them "don't hurt my babies."

Or was that staged and what really happened was the two white guys stole their shit staging a fake open house and Dorit made up the whole PTSD story?

I think Dorit thought the robbery was real at the time, but PK arranged it and was in on it.

For some reason he thought his prattling wife would be stoic about it , and not make the robbery her storyline for multiple seasons on the show.

If cast members even doubt you, there is something fake about the whole situation. I don't think Garcelle is a mean-spirited person. She can go after someone in a bunch of ways without needing to lie about them. And she knows the power of saying something on TV for an audience. For her to say "Dorit still has all her jewelry.." That statement alone speaks volumes about what most people in the inner circle probably believe about the home invasion.

It speaks volumes that PK and Ken and Lisa Vanderpump were friends forever, longer than he knew Dorit, yet he dumped them in favor of Dorit who used the whole Puppygate storyline to her advantage. Teddy was all in on using it to out Dorit until Kyle stepped in and made Teddy turn on Lisa. I truly think Kyle thought it would blow over not realizing calling your friend a liar would end a friendship. GOODBYE KYLE.

What does PK do now for a living? Last I heard, he was living in London selling real estate. I'm not sure that he's even Boy George's manager anymore.

It was amazing that the damn puppy thing ended the show for all intent and purposes

The show never recovered from LVP leaving

The way I understand that stupid dog story that led to LVP’s exit-Teddi and LVP agreed to out Dorit for dumping that dog in a pound.

Teddi told Kyle about the plan, and Kyle got Teddi, Erika and Rinna together, and they decided to turn the tables on LVP-this was all happening while Lisa was grieving the suicide of her brother and death of her mother. Those five-or as they call themselves, The Fox Force Five-were awful to Lisa. I think when Lisa mentioned grieving to Kyle, Kyle said “we all have problems Lisa.”

For whatever reason, the producers were keen on this idea to get LVP off the show (probably for budgetary reasons), and as a result, protected Erika and Dorit. During that season the cast took a trip to the Bahamas, and Dorit was chased around the resort swimming pool by one of PK and Dorit’s unpaid vendors, demanding payment. This season also saw the first rumblings of financial malpractice by Tom Girardi, and they kept it off the show as well.

Yes, Lisa was so busy grieving yet somehow she still had time to cook up a scheme with Teddi to make Dorit look bad. LVP was conniving from day one. Remember her trying to get Brandi to bring the magazines about Mo’s affair on their group trip? Or trying to encourage Rinna to say on camera that Kyle had also doubted YoYo’s illness? LVP got exactly what she deserved. The number of people who are fooled by her British accent into thinking she’s not trash is astounding to me.

Totally agree r374, LVP is very conniving, and she hates women-watch Vanderpump Rules and see how she gives men passes for horrible behavior. And she did encourage Rinna and Brandi to do her dirty work. I never bought her rekindled friendship with Kyle, either-she’s just an old English madam with no taste and a fat ass.

But Kyle and Company didn’t do themselves any favors by at least pretending to care about her losses-they’re just bad actresses. Those five never read the room-you have to be subtle to get rid of a fab favorite. They fucked up again the next season with Denise, when they railroaded her off the show.

R373 LVP was right to out Dorit for dumping Lucy Lucy Apple Juicy in a killer shelter. It’s disgusting.

I think Dorit is legitimately stupid - she didn’t understand a reference to horses being sent to the glue factory, she relied on PK for business advice to both tacky Beverly Beach and the wedding dress line, she is addicted to shopping in spite of her only income being RHOBH. And she sent a dog to a kill shelter.

Dorit didn’t drop the dog off at a shelter. She gave it to another family and they dropped it off at a shelter. LVP knew that but leaked stories to make Dorit bad. And let’s not forget the dog attacked Dorit and the new family, which is how it ended up in a shelter in the first place.

Didn’t Kim’s Dog almost eat her?

No, cunt!

That was a vicious rumor spread by a pernicious ho.

I am a sweet PITTIE!

The fights on these shows are never about the topic at hand-they’re about actions they can’t discuss on camera as it would jeopardize the illusion that this is reality.

For example, it isn’t coincidental that LVP’s fight with Brandi and the cast in season four coincided with the premiere of Vanderpump Rules and her constant efforts to bring the Real Housewives into Sur; and her fight with Teddi and Dorit coincides with her attempt to get another show going about Vanderpump Dogs.

Kathy said that Kim is doing well after a recent setback in her sobriety, and all three sisters will be spending Christmas together. Christmas Eve and Christmas Day will be split between Paris's house and either Kathy or Kyle's house.

Kyle Richards previously told People that she is known for her “legendary” Christmas feast. “My family loves my turkey and my mashed potatoes. I’m very good at cooking, I must say,” she dished.

Kyle Richards revealed that she leaves the dessert prep to Kim. “So here’s the thing: I’m known for making the best holiday dinner. I really am,” she told Vulture in an interview. “And Kim, my sister, is the one who makes the best dessert. She’s famous for her fudge. So I’m always like, ‘Don’t forget your fudge!’ She makes unbelievable fudge. So she’s the one who makes the best dessert.”

Kim used to host Christmas until Kyle stole her goddamn house.

LVP, Kim and Taylor are what made Beverly Hills interesting. The show is really not interesting without those three.

As if fat hog Kathy Hilton cook’s anything herself. These people are clueless.

R371, I don't know what PK is doing specifically, but I did just find this Channel 4 (UK) Selling Super Houses programme that he hosted/starred in in 2023. I live in the UK, but I had never heard of it until now. Having said that, I don't watch much TV so wouldn't have seen promo adverts or anything. It certainly didn't generate conversational buzz.

In case those of you in the US are geo-blocked from the Channel 4 site, here's the synopsis of PK's show (looks dire):

21 August 2023 London-born property magnate Paul Kemsley, nicknamed PK, has returned from Beverly Hills to London with one mission in mind – to take over the capital’s super prime property market with the help of some new agents.

In Selling Super Houses, eight aspiring agents compete for the job of a lifetime – showcasing and selling super prime properties for PK, at his exclusive independent property agency.

Viewers are promised multi-million-pound luxe properties and cutthroat competition in this groundbreaking super prime property series.

Episode 1 - Tuesday 29 August 9pm, Channel 4

Meet Paul Kemsley (nicknamed PK), serial entrepreneur and property mogul. He’s returning to the UK from LA, after 13 years and setting up a new super prime property division in London.

Eight hopefuls are being given the opportunity to compete for the job of a lifetime - a role as a super prime real estate agent within premier London property agency, RIB. Each week they’ll face property-based challenges to test their skills – all set in the super prime world of high-end luxe listings.

This week's challenge is to host an open house event at one of the agency's most exclusive properties, worth a huge £20million.

First impressions count, and the trainees must show they’ve got what it takes to make it in this industry. Which of them will rise to the challenge and which will buckle under the pressure? And most importantly, can any of them secure a sale?

Episode 2 - Tuesday 5 September 9 10pm, Channel 4

Last week the eight aspiring super prime estate agents hosted their first open house event in one of the agency’s most exclusive and high-end properties.

After mixed results, PK decides to give all eight hopefuls a second chance to prove themselves in this week's challenge – conducting a house tour at a celebrity mansion.

Unbeknown to the trainees, the owner of the mansion in Hampstead is music legend Boy George and he’s got some very interesting house rules that all the trainees must abide by...

To top the challenge off, PK’s wife Dorit Kemsley – a Real Housewife of Beverley Hills – has flown over to join Boy George in the judging of the house tours and after some tough feedback, the first trainee is asked to leave the competition.

Episode 3 - Tuesday 12 September 10:15pm, Channel 4

Last week, the first trainee left the competition. This week PK piles on the pressure with a huge marketing task – to produce a video tour, particulars and high spec presentation on two super prime houses.

Tensions mount as the trainees feel the strain of the task and disagreements hinder the final product, resulting in a losing team.

Following the presentations, PK hosts a high stakes networking lunch with industry professionals and a surprise elevator pitch is sprung upon the losing team. And PK has a tough decision to make as another trainee is asked to leave the process.

I want some of Kim's famous Christmas fudge!

I wonder if it's better than Mamie Eisenhower's?

Kim throws some Xannies and some Percocet jimmies into her fudge.

Wasn’t the phony Dorit robbery because PK owed the Bellagio a lot of money? Maybe he didn’t tell her which is why their marriage collapse is no surprise. It was so bogus including the robbers leaving her cellphone at the gate as a courtesy. Ridiculous!

[quote]Kyle Richards previously told People that she is known for her “legendary” Christmas feast. “My family loves my turkey and my mashed potatoes. I’m very good at cooking, I must say,” she dished.

Remember that revolting salmon Kyle made? And then her untrained dog kept running in.

I remember when Bambi? jumped on the table and ate a whole baked potato right off of Faye Resnick's plate.

Remember when Brandi walked out of a restaurant with a tampon hanging out?

I still laugh at something that happened during the Game Night episode but is usually forgotten due to Kim and Kyle's behavior. Brandi thought that Winston Churchill was a black civil rights leader who liked to smoke cigars 😂😂😂😂. Taylor and "Dana Pam" were sitting there, dying laughing. I sent that clip to my friend and she couldn't stop laughing.

The dog did not attack their family. It was a fucking lap dog. Dorit claims it bit PK on the face while he was playing with it. Dorit gave the dog to the housekeeper, which is a violation of the adoption agreement. They had the means to return it to Vanderpump dogs, all she had to do was Call Lisa or Vandperpump Dogs to return it for behavioural issues. It is pretty standard for any pet adoption. The housekeeper then took the dog to a kill shelter. The dog was a chihuahua mix for gods sake not a great dane. LVP was pissed when she found out, not only because of how it happened but because PK and Dorit were her friends and they knew how much Lisa loved dogs, for it to end up in a kill shelter. What you don't know is Teddi was good friends with a few of the Vanderpump dogs staff, one in particular, who told her about it. Teddi called Lisa to cook up the outing of Dorit. It was Kyle who plotted to take LVP down. As we have seen, Kyle holds grudges and she was not happy with Lisa and the Maurcio cheating rumors.

R394, it is really ridiculous how Dorit was NEVER punished by her castmates as she should have been. And it's very interesting to see how Miss "Accountability" (Teddi) has now been exposed to be a dishonest cheater. Guess she'll have to reduce those meal calories to 300!

Teddi: "I've never lied one second of my life, ever."

LVP: "Maybe you should rename that whole little situation you got going on. Miss Fucking Avoidability, how about that one? That might be better."

I am convinced Dorit is low IQ.

The only Kim Richard’s fudge I can picture is what’s waiting for her in her pants after waking up from a three day bender.

Did Dorit fire the housekeeper who gave the dog to the kill shelter?

[quote] Did Dorit fire the housekeeper who gave the dog to the kill shelter?

The dog was doing coke in her bathroom.

Vanderpump Dogs is such a terrible name, especially given the superiority of the very obvious moniker “Vanderpups.”

Kim Richards giving Lisa Rinna that goddamn bunny back at the reunion.

Rinna sheds a soap tear, Eden Sassoon offers Kim a healing crystal, Kyle tries not to laugh, Erika has a “WTF?” look on her face and Andy is enthralled.

Kim is magic on TV.

R398 wants Kim's special Christmas Panty Fudge!

Nothing says Christmas like Kim's Fudge!

And to think, this whole time I thought it was shit on Kim’s pillow. Turns out it was just her famous fudge.

R404 well, she certainly isn’t Dutch!

Con-a-ling-is? What is that? It sounds Asian? Some kind of vegetable? What is it??!

I see Kathy is playing the codger granny character again, as if that bitch is isn’t one of the biggest sharks in the town.

You just know Sutton has said the N&F words.

LOL Garcelle’s son modeling. Just what we need another mid-looking Nepo baby model.

Mo is so over Kyle. She’s unraveling, it’s sad because I like her a lot. We’ll see where it goes.

Sutton treats that gay assistant like a dog, she’s a deplorable cunt. I hate that bitch!

R410 Well she's been dating someone else for a few years now. He should be over her.

Kyle's life has really gone down the drain. Just a few years ago, she was producing her own TV show, starring in a Halloween sequel, and had a happy and successful marriage. She's still rich, but things aren't the same anymore.

Kathy may be cutthroat, but I give her props for maintaining her marriage and family all of these years. I wonder why Kathy has been able to hold it together while Kyle and Kim haven't?

R413 K probably turned a blind eye when R was MIA with hired friends or “tucking in” the girls. That family has dark secrets.

It’s really amazing to me how many people buy the Kathy Hilton bullshit. You are really think her kids are well adjusted? Paris is such a slut she ruined an entire generation of girls.

R414 Yeah, I wouldn't exactly call Kathy Hilton mother of the year.

Rich & Miserable. If these cunts were happy they wouldn’t be desperately seeking approval on a trashy reality show. Congratulations you have all the Hermes and Louis bags but you’re on SSRIs and drinking on other numbing pharmas and you hate yourself. Quite the accomplishment.

Watch that awful Paris Hilton reality show on Peacock and you’ll see the real Kathy Hilton.

Paris is scared of her mother . She took over as the head of the family when their evil cunt mother Big Kathy died.

If Rick Hilton ever had a mistress, Kathy would have run her out of town or dealt with her in some other dark way.

R417 she would have hired someone, if you-a catch-a ma drift! Hey! Ho!

Kim’s problem has always been booze, pills and apparently smearing Christmas fudge on travel pillows.

R417, didn't Paris not even tell Kathy she was pregnant?

R420 correct Kathy is a cunt

Countdown to the daily mention of the House of Hilton book...........................................

R421, I don't think she revealed the baby until after she gave birth! That's wild.

House of Hilton - great book.

[quote]If Rick Hilton ever had a mistress, Kathy would have run her out of town or dealt with her in some other dark way.

I'm quite sure that he's had multiple mistresses over the years. He works in an industry that is teeming with young, beautiful women who are looking to meet a rich man. Those LA luxury realtors are gold-diggers. Kathy is a frumpy frau. There's no way that Rick isn't getting something hotter on the side. Mauricio certainly was.

Kathy is the kind of woman who will look the other way as long as her lifestyle is maintained and the credit card bills are paid. Who wouldn't be happy with that arrangement after 45 years of marriage?

Three of Kyle’s long time (30+ year) friendships are with Faye Resnick, Bethenny Frankel and Kris Jenner. Bethenny and Kyle met when Bethenny worked for Kathy Hilton as a nanny, although I believe they had a falling out around the time Bethenny started her fight with Bravo.

I think being friends with those three tells you a lot about who Kyle is as a person.

R426 you mean the morally corrupt Faye Resnick or the pernicious Bethenny Frankel?

Both r426

Kyle looks like she's put some weight back on. She was way too thin last season.

R426, I know Bethenny and Kyle are longtime friends (at least, they used to be friends) but I cannot imagine Kyle handling Bethenny's type A personality well. Faye, Kris Jenner, Vanderpump, etc. are bitches but they aren't constantly chewing the scenery and crying hysterically every other minute. Bethenny requires a team of certified professionals to handle her.

Omg Queen Camille just got into a fight with Dorit and forgot Erika’s name to her face in the middle of her fight and it was a glorious moment!

Camille is no angle. She did that hoping to get back on the show. She should just sit back and be quiet. Dorit is playing angry spice to save her spot on the show. I would not put it past them to create this "separation" for the show. I am always suspicious when they never tell the kids.

Does Camille not want to come back?they’d be dumb not to want her back.

I love it when Garcelle is shady. She pretty much said what we've all been thinking: PK planned the home invasion and Dorit was clueless. Camille forgetting Erika's name was a throwback to gloriously cunty season one Camille.

[quote] Camille is no angle.

Don't be so obtuse.

Camille? The Jersey Shore MTV Spring Break girl?

[quote] Don't be so obtuse.

That's acute.

Did Paris actually give birth? I thought she had a surrogate.

Kyle Richards really is down the tubes

She’s given 14 years of her life to this show and she has a broken marriage, Joker facial work and her estranged sister smeared Christmas fudge all over her travel pillow.

R439, she looked so much better before the most recent cosmetic work she had done on her face.

R439 R440 It's her lips more than anything. They're way too big for her mousey face.

Erika is going back to Broadway for 3 weeks in Chicago in January.

R441, agreed, the lips are baboon lips, same as Tre's from RHONJ. Also, her eyes just look kind of hard now. I remember during the Puppygate season, I kept thinking her work looked really harsh.

Also, you would think someone like Kyle would know to get her neck done too. But she clearly hasn't. It looks much older than her face or hands.

I’m sorry but what is the point do doing a role for 3 weeks??? Is that even enough time for your fans to come?

I don’t even know this person’s name anyway!

R442 Erika should play Mama Morton.

A DLer loved Rinna in Chicago, FWIW.

Who is Erika?

Camille was comedy gold.

Camille always brings it. I hope she reappears later this season.

I always remember her referring to Mauricio as a “local LA realtor.”

Boz is so tacky. The hair is giving me Amy Winehoise and the boob tattoo is hideous

I would love to see what internal polling shows at Bravo for these stars and if it matches how we feel.

DL favorites seems to be:

Lisa Vanderpump

Kim Richards

Eileen Davidson

Camille Grammer

And yet…TPTB at Bravo seem to push the other women more…so idk.

It might also be who the female audience and the bitter queen audience at DL….are not the same lol

The Frauen are loving Dorit amd Boz.

r438 No Paris did not give birth, it was how she surprised Kathy. Just waked in with a baby.

[quote]The Frauen are loving Dorit amd Boz.

I find it amazing that Dorit's phony ass has lasted this many seasons.

Someone's on reddit said that Jagger is young Niles (Crane) and I can not stop cackling because it's perfect.

Dorit has done just enough to get by each year, and she had the protection of being aligned with Rinna, Kyle and Erika. That’s gone so she now has to clock in.

I wonder what being Boy George’s manager pays

They need to promote Jennifer Tilly to full-time housewife next season.

She's hilarious and gives this franchise a much-needed shot in the arm. She's not featured nearly enough.

R450 And her outfit at Kyle's cowboy party was hideous.

What makes her think she can pull off wearing shorty-short-short-shorts with thighs that are as wide as 5th wheelers?

r459 because she don't give a shit.

R460 She should.

I like the way Boz dresses but I love drag queens so that’s probably why

R462 That's part of Boz's problem. She dresses like an over-the-top drag queen, but she thinks she looks good. She doesn't realize she looks like an over-the-top drag queen.

Gee, I wonder where Kyle got the idea to do a country-themed party.

R464 it was odd that this type of party seemed TAILORED made for Morgan and she was nowhere to be found.

And yet, she, Kyle and Lisa Rinna met for breakfast last week So make of that what you will.

R465 My guess is that Kyle purposely didn't invite Morgan so that there wouldn't be more lesbian speculation.

Morgan was painfully awkward in her scenes from last season. Maybe she's been smart enough to opt out on her own. It's not exactly her brand.

How is her name Boz and not Bozo from the way she dresses? It’s also very matronly. Who is her stylist? Wayland Flowers?

I think the classiest tattoo you can get is a star right between your saggy tits.

Is Kyle bi or later in life lesbian?

R468, I can't stop looking at it, it's so distracting.

R470 I’m pretty sure Kyle identifies as boring.

[quite]I think the classiest tattoo you can get is a star right between your saggy tits.

I'm going to have to pay better attention because I thought it was a triangle. The tattoo artist who did it should find another profession.

[quote]I think the classiest tattoo you can get is a star right between your saggy tits.

I'm going to have to pay better attention because I thought it was a triangle. The tattoo artist who did it should find another profession.

I like the after show interviews where you can tell Dorit really hates the pious Sutton.

I like the new spicier Dorit throwing “cunts” around. I love how that word shakes the women to their core and Dorit used it like eight times the last episode.

R476, that's why I really enjoyed when only Kyle and Lisa were friends with Dorit. Dorit's first season was great.

I have always liked Dorit. I'm glad she's standing up for herself, but she's now starting to sound unhinged. She's clearly playing for the cameras so she doesn't get fired and just shouting for the sake of it. She needs to be more strategic with her staged shout-fests for them to have more impact. At this point she's just a one-note shouter.

"Daaamn!"

Garcelle is the most overrated housewife ever. Nothing she has done is all that interesting. And for a beautiful woman, she dresses horribly.

I loved Dorit going after Garcelle: " “I’m not surprised that you agree with that. And, let’s be honest. I’m not your favorite person. You’re very clear about that.” Garcelle loves to talk shit about Dorit (in fact, she seems to be Garcelle's main target) so it was nice to see Garcelle put on the defensive for once.

Sutton is on the spectrum, right? She’s so odd.

Garcelle is worth keeping just for her confessionals. Her comments are often hilarious.

r480 Garcelle has terrible taste in clothes. She almost always gets it wrong. Every episode I look forward to her latest fashion mistake.

R484 No one has worse taste in clothing than we do.

Was it just me or did it seem like Garcelles beach house is next to a power plant?

I don’t think any amount of money could help Sutton’s body. She’s built like a tadpole. What can you do with that?

I wonder if Sutton and Crystal are still friends.

I remember Garcelle from the Models Inc days. I always thought she had the most beautiful smile. Still does! But yeah, she has bad taste in clothes on RHOBH. I also do not like her maroon wig, but if she likes it, who cares what I think.

r485 My apologies, I didn't mean to imply that Garcelle has the worst fashion taste on the show. Sutton and Kyle are worse. Boz has had some truly awful (and clunky) looks as well, but it's too soon for me to have a full opinion. And despite her wealth, Jennifer Tilly looks like she smells of mothballs.

r486 I think that's very likely. And the queen sized triple bunk beds just scream Airbnb to me. And if her plan is to list it on Airbnb, she should just admit it.

I loved when in one of the earlier seasons LVP told Ken she was lending Kyle a dress and he said, “A muumuu? She likes those.”

R492, he also said that Kyle wouldn't be able to fit in LVP's clothing. That was pretty uncalled for on his part. Even if its true.

Kyle has occasionally looked stunning like on the Season 1 and 4 reunions. But her fashion taste is usually bad. Very tacky LA. But I think Garcelle is worse.

Ken is a little bitch.

Sutton has always looked like a Keebler Elf and nothing she does helps matters

It must be a completely different experience divorcing from someone you know is rich and you’ll have the money to maintain a lifestyle (Sutton, Kyle) and the terror of divorcing someone who is likely a fraud and you have no idea how you’ll survive or what your life will look like (Erika, Dorit). I think that’s why those two are closer right now. Erika can probably smell the panic of implosion coming off of Dorit that she herself is all too familiar with.

It’s funny the two girls with the most knowledge of expensive fashion won’t be able to afford it anymore.

[quote]Sutton is on the spectrum, right? She’s so odd.

Yes, she is. As well as all her castmates. And everyone in LA County. And all residents of California. And everyone in the United States. We're all on the spectrum according to a few DLers who can't let a discussion proceed without an autism diagnosis.

r486 Her beach house is in Oxnard. Not a great area. It's a few hours' drive north of Malibu (about 50 miles).

Jennifer Tilly posted pics from Sutton's holiday party. Denise, Camille, Crystal, Meredith Marx and Heather Dubrow were there.

Sutton is a kook and clearly clueless. I’m surprised she lasted except her strategy with Garcelle and Crystal (who would ignore her in real life). Sutton has really milked the show, but I find her unlikable.

Anyone else want Boz to be a corporate psychopath?

She was reputedly fired from one job for refusing to return from Paris during lockdown.

R502 There's no doubt Boz was a shitty corporate executive who probably collected a bunch of golden parachutes in the short periods of time she was with each of the companies she worked for.

And now that she's like kryptonite in corporate America, she's forced to make a living selling self-help books.

I think these women. like Boz, are hired for their potential messinesses from the past coming up. It’s a huge expense, experiment for the network to invest in some of these women. I am sure they do their due diligence. I am sure there were rumble about Tom before they took on Erika. Diana had her sex worker/madam allegations. Yolanda being a yacht girl. Even if these things don’t come out, they are seeds for storylines.

Where's the hot Mexican jewish realtor? He's a fucking ride.

R505 is texting from 2022 or maybe even 2021.

He’s sleeping with his employee, Vanna White’s son, r505

R507 keep up! Vanna White’s son is STRAIGHT now and has a girlfriend! The sinful past with the BBC is OVER!!

R465 Morgan could have been at the party, but maybe she refused to be filmed.

R508 with a name like Saint Peter, I doubt he’s done with cock. Who names their kid Saint Peter?

Our parents R510 .